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I'm out, guys.
« on: August 02, 2012, 02:44:59 pm »
Until there is a new forum and IRC not under the control of Keiro or hosted by his servers and from which he is permanently banned, I'm out, guys. I encourage others to do the same. I love most of you, but I simply can't in good conscience stay here.

Keiro, instead of of paying back the money you owe, you apparently mooched off your debtees for a while and spent your money stuffing your face with obscene amounts of food that would feed several people, ordering new servers, pre-ordering some book, and other shit. Then you claimed you didn't have the money to pay them back. That's fucking hilarious. You also lied about losing your wallet and several other things. You're sleazy as fuck. I don't know why you're censoring criticism of yourself and the fact that you owe a large sum of money to Miles and others. Probably to shield yourself from legal action or to protect your "company" from bad press. Either way, I still know what you did. You still know what you did. Most of the forum members still know. Until you delete this too, those who read this and didn't know will know. We all know you are a lying, theiving coward.

Also, if you're another mod reading this and you're tempted to delete this or lock this thread to defend this jackass, then fuck your noise too. If you genuinely think he is innocent, then you're an incredibly poor judge of character and frankly should not have moderator privileges for it. That's not even intended as an insult or a personal attack. It's telling it like it is. If you think this issue is "inappropriate" to discuss in public or that "drama" like this should be kept secret, then you're willfully shielding and protecting a con-artist and preventing his antics from being exposed to the public for all to see. You're only making it easier for him do it again in the future. The evidence he did this vastly overwhelms the evidence he did not. What you choose to do with that evidence is reflective of your character, not simply as a moderator, but as a human being. If you know this is going on and there is nothing you can do to stop it, then step down from your position and leave. That's what I would do at least.

All of that said, sayonara, ɡuys. It's been fun, and I'll be back once this situation is actually dealt with appropriately.

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Re: I'm out, guys.
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2012, 03:16:57 pm »
Shyyyyy. I'll miss you. :(

I'd prefer to be hosted elsewhere as well, because Keiro does not deserve admin privileges.
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Re: I'm out, guys.
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2012, 03:29:09 pm »
Yeah, you know what? While I'm gonna stay on this board until a mass exodus happens, Keiro deserves no respect whatsoever.


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Re: I'm out, guys.
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2012, 03:46:08 pm »
In b4 lock or deletion, because we know it's coming :)


Yeah, you know what? While I'm gonna stay on this board until a mass exodus happens, Keiro deserves no respect whatsoever.

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Re: I'm out, guys.
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2012, 03:54:46 pm »
Yeah...seeing the IRC and Facebook shit he's put up, honestly, I don't blame you at all, bro.  Keiro's servers are a massive clusterfuck that seem to explode on a monthly basis.  To be perfectly honest, he was pretty much a lurker on the ProBoards forum, and the only reason I can see why he was made an admin was out of sheer convenience.

Hell, the only reason we even left the ProBoards forum was because the NSFW section had to go, which isn't that big a deal, if ya ask me.  If you want fucking smut, ya know what?  There are literally a million other places you can go to get your fix, and they're all a minute and a Google search away.  The "sexy [member] threads" can die, and the sexual opinions and shit can be kept in a Confession forum, like what we've got here.

All in all, the only thing these forums have given us is a light porn section, which isn't worth the cost of having a shitty admin running the show, or having it hosted on servers that can't be run for more than a month without catching fucking fire.
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Re: I'm out, guys.
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2012, 04:30:24 pm »
Well... if another forum is made, I'll go to both since I like quite a few people here.  My stance on the drama in general has been neutral since I have no money put in the Operation (nor any money in general, really :-/), nor any vested interest besides the people and discussions I like here.  Which includes you, Shy.  I'd miss you if you went. :-/

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Re: I'm out, guys.
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2012, 05:28:39 pm »
My bro <3.

I reflect all of Shy's frustrations and have kept publicly silent about it because I don't like rocking the boat, but it seems the boat is already rocking, so here we go.

To be frank, I never liked the idea of Keiro taking everything over. It felt like he came out of nowhere and just started planning the move without even asking what people thought. I think he won people over solely with the promise of the ability to post wee-wees and boobies, and that was basically all we've gotten out of the deal. This forum has had more downtime in the last 6 months than I ever remember the proboards having.

That's not the least of the problems, however.

When Keiro first announced that he was going to rescue Miles, I, like most people, thought that was the greatest thing ever. At the time, I was under the impression that Keiro had a solid living situation. Soon after, though, the doubts started rolling in.

The first doubt came when he ran out on Gomer and stiffed him on a sizeable chunk of rent money and actively ignored Gomer's pleas for attention. The second doubt came when he made plans with other forum members to put the operation into motion, and when the time came, nothing came of it because of him. Not only did this waste forum member's valuable time, but it dashed the hopes of a poor kid who didn't need that extra shit to deal with. The third, and most enraging example was when I found out that Keiro is essentially a homeless couch surfer.

This is speaking directly to Keiro:

How can you offer refuge and a stable envirionment to someone who needs it desperately, when you don't even have that for yourself? I don't give a tuppenny fuck about what plans you had for getting a house from your relative, or whatever the plan was. You had no firm ground to stand on when you set the whole operation up, and that alone means you had no right to make such a lofty promise. And to make it all even worse, you decided to tack on another rescuee while you were at it. You are foresightless at the very best, and a rotten piece of shit at the very worst. I lean more toward the latter, because of all the above in conjunction with all of the money fuckery.

As angry as this all makes me, I can't bring myself to wish anything bad upon you. If you keep living this way, you will get everything you deserve.
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Re: I'm out, guys.
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2012, 06:05:18 pm »
It's pretty much all lack of foresight.  He lets idealistic thoughts of Making Things Better For People get in the way of the reality that sometimes you can't really do shit because your current situation is fucked.

Keiro builds castles in the air, doesn't show anyone the plans beforehand, then is baffled when they collapse into a huge mess.

On the plus side, Eni and Keiro have separately informed me that they have worked out a written contract for Keiro to pay him and Miles what he owes.
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Re: I'm out, guys.
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2012, 06:52:20 pm »
Yeah, you know what? While I'm gonna stay on this board until a mass exodus happens, Keiro deserves no respect whatsoever.
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Re: I'm out, guys.
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2012, 06:55:57 pm »
Hades pretty much summed up most of my thoughts on the matter, except that I suspect this situation is more an issue of Keiro lacking foresight and being irresponsible than any intentional fuckery on his part. I'm not prepared to label him an asshole just yet, but I don't exactly have a ton of confidence in him either. In any case, I'm also a bit uncomfortable with the fact that his role as an admin hasn't been at least suspended while this is all sorted out.
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Re: I'm out, guys.
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2012, 07:14:54 pm »
I agree with L and Antechrist.

And I will miss ya, bro. Stay in contact on AIM and such, all right?

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Re: I'm out, guys.
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2012, 07:48:00 pm »
Keiro does seem to possess a suddenly quite rotten demeanor. Selecting anyone out of convenience is not a very good move. If anything, this shows that his true nature is a rather avaricious one. Who knows what else is going on?

This whole issue should be a warning flag for people.

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Re: I'm out, guys.
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2012, 08:45:47 pm »
In b4 lock or deletion, because we know it's coming :)


Yeah, you know what? While I'm gonna stay on this board until a mass exodus happens, Keiro deserves no respect whatsoever.

^^This

I second this, and all the sentiments expressed in this thread thusfar. Shy, I'll miss you. :(
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Re: I'm out, guys.
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2012, 09:24:04 pm »
Meant to say this earlier on: Shy, I'm gonna miss having you around. Your posts often make me want to reach through the screen and hive five you. Do you have a Steam account?
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Re: I'm out, guys.
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2012, 09:26:13 pm »
Hades summed it up well. In addition, I still want to know if Keiro deleted the entire Operation Miles subforum. I suspect he did, in which case he needs to be punished appropriately. Frankly, all his behavior I've seen on here is mounds and mounds of evidence supporting the assertion that he should not be a mod, and that he doesn't deserve to host this site on his shitty server. The problems we've experienced on here have been ridiculous, and while I can tolerate a certain amount of bullshit and be thankful that we're hosted for free, this is fucking insane.

Frankly, I don't want him to be a part of this community, not after all the bullshit he's done. I have no respect. I don't give a shit if he's got personal problems and suffers from trying to do too much for too many people. We've all got problems. Doesn't give him any right to be treated differently.
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