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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2910 on: March 15, 2019, 08:44:11 am »
If they can't get a veto-proof majority, what possible chance do you think they'll be able to pass a Constitutional amendment in Congress?  Then it has to go to the States where it has less chance of passing.  Yeah the whole point of the resolution on Trump's national emergency was to pin certain Senators to the wall for 2020.  Collins is pretty much done in Maine due to her Kavanaugh vote now blowing up in her face but the rest are realizing exactly what type of a sinking ship they've got.  Hence the votes against Trump.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2911 on: March 15, 2019, 05:20:05 pm »
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-border-emergency-congress-1.5058419

Trump vetoed it, of course.

As for the amendment, they should do that on general principle. To adapt Tony Benn, "The [incident] concerned was only the occasion for change." They won't, of course, but they should.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2912 on: March 16, 2019, 02:10:34 am »
The next president of USA can declare a national emergency over gun violence, healthcare and anything else they may desire to do so for. And then use their veto to keep it up.
No matter what happens, no matter what my last words may end up being, I want everyone to claim that they were:
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2913 on: March 16, 2019, 02:46:16 am »
The next president of USA can declare a national emergency over gun violence, healthcare and anything else they may desire to do so for. And then use their veto to keep it up.
Assuming Congress will let them, which they almost certainly won't, thanks to the vast majority of both parties being thoroughly corrupt.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2914 on: March 16, 2019, 02:51:23 am »
The next president of USA can declare a national emergency over gun violence, healthcare and anything else they may desire to do so for. And then use their veto to keep it up.

Well there is a question of how far they can divert funds.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/chapter-34
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/2808
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/2801
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/33/2293

Diverting funds for military construction projects is one thing. Diverting funds to do something like create a single-payer health insurance system or a gun buyback program would be another thing entirely.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2915 on: March 16, 2019, 05:57:48 am »
The next president of USA can declare a national emergency over gun violence, healthcare and anything else they may desire to do so for. And then use their veto to keep it up.

Do repubs still pretend to be the small gov party or is that basically out the window and only Libertarians like Rand Paul still even care about that issue? I mean, say what you will about pube-head but he's actually very principled compared to well, most of his political party.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2916 on: March 16, 2019, 10:11:30 am »
The next president of USA can declare a national emergency over gun violence, healthcare and anything else they may desire to do so for. And then use their veto to keep it up.

Do repubs still pretend to be the small gov party or is that basically out the window and only Libertarians like Rand Paul still even care about that issue? I mean, say what you will about pube-head but he's actually very principled compared to well, most of his political party.

Course they claim to be the party of small government. Just like they claim to be the party of tax cuts.
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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2917 on: March 16, 2019, 03:27:03 pm »
The next president of USA can declare a national emergency over gun violence, healthcare and anything else they may desire to do so for. And then use their veto to keep it up.
Assuming Congress will let them, which they almost certainly won't, thanks to the vast majority of both parties being thoroughly corrupt.

While that's cute, unless there's a law passed, hands are tied if Trump gets away with this.

Ironbite-and the GOP marches once more into obscurity but not fast enough.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2918 on: March 16, 2019, 07:30:38 pm »
The next president of USA can declare a national emergency over gun violence, healthcare and anything else they may desire to do so for. And then use their veto to keep it up.
Assuming Congress will let them, which they almost certainly won't, thanks to the vast majority of both parties being thoroughly corrupt.

While that's cute, unless there's a law passed, hands are tied if Trump gets away with this.

Ironbite-and the GOP marches once more into obscurity but not fast enough.

But think of the dead babies, and the confiscated guns, and the gays who want wedding cakes, and the atheists who will repossess your church, and the Muslims who will shoot up your mall, and the illegals who will rape your daughters...
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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2919 on: March 16, 2019, 07:51:55 pm »
The next president of USA can declare a national emergency over gun violence, healthcare and anything else they may desire to do so for. And then use their veto to keep it up.
Assuming Congress will let them, which they almost certainly won't, thanks to the vast majority of both parties being thoroughly corrupt.

While that's cute, unless there's a law passed, hands are tied if Trump gets away with this.

Ironbite-and the GOP marches once more into obscurity but not fast enough.

Not really. Just like the current situation, they’d need a non vetoable majority. Which, I suspect, will be no problem whatsoever if the gun or private health insurance lobby feels their profits are threatened.