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Border Patrol also claims these guys are stealing materials.

Ironbite-so really only ICE is ok with Trump's SS.
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https://www.theroot.com/class-action-lawsuit-claims-thousands-of-ice-detainees-1793008061

Well when you consider that ICE may well be engaging in literal slavery...
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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/salvadorhernandez/militia-border-crowdfunding-migrants-detain-paypal

So... These guys are wandering around near the southern border of USA, wear badges that have been made to look like police badges and detain people at gunpoint. And since they aren't authorities and merely pretend to be, that's called kidnapping in the civilized world. In USA though it appears that the only ones who have an issue with it are Paypal and GoFundMe who have now shut down their donations for violating site rules.

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Known as the United Constitutional Patriots (UCP), the militia has been patrolling a remote stretch of the New Mexico desert near the Mexico border for months with heavily armed members reportedly detaining dozens of migrants a day.

The group has used the thousands of dollars donated online to supply food, gasoline, propane, and a portable toilet at a camp in Sunland, New Mexico, but by Friday members of the militia learned they would no longer be able to use PayPal or GoFundMe to raise money.

"They killed us," Mark Cheney, who described himself as commander of United Constitutional Patriots, told BuzzFeed News in a phone interview. "I have to find some other way for people to donate."

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Peter Simonson, executive director for the ACLU of New Mexico, said citizen arrests can only be made in the case of a felony. Illegal entry into the US is a misdemeanor, and not reason enough for a person to carry out a citizen's arrest.

Simonson said he grew concerned about the militia impersonating law enforcement officers after watching videos posted by the group.

"That's one crime that is a federal felony," Simonson told BuzzFeed News. "I also suspect the militias could be guilty of false imprisonment and maybe even kidnapping, and that's just the tip of the iceberg."

...But apparently the border patrol and police are fine with working with these criminals?
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The Lounge / Re: The Funny/Stupid Pics Thread
« Last post by Chaos Undivided on April 20, 2019, 07:10:20 pm »
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by ironbite on April 20, 2019, 06:23:17 pm »
I don't know why they bend over backwards to protect this asshole so much.

He knows, or at least has been told, where the skeletons are.  And the GOP has a lot of bad shit that'll probably cause anyone who still supports them run screaming into the hills.

Ironbite-it's got to be so bad that Turtle et al do not want getting out.
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by dpareja on April 20, 2019, 06:14:32 pm »
Remember, when Sessions recused himself with regard to the Mueller probe, Trump said he no longer had an Attorney General.

He's convinced that the Department of Justice exists to protect him. Anyone who wants to keep their job in this administration knows they have to toady up to Trump, and anyone who doesn't--even if it means following flagrantly illegal orders for which they would be personally responsible, even if they'd already done any number of horrific things at his command, such as Kirstjen Nielsen--gets fired.

It's a matter of self-preservation.
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by Chaos Undivided on April 20, 2019, 05:22:35 pm »
I'm not entirely sure myself. There are a lot of people who are hardcore Trump devotees (or at least act like it) for one reason or another, but unless he massively restructured the Justice Department and I wasn't aware of it, I don't get why they seem to be going all in to defend him.
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by Id82 on April 20, 2019, 05:11:22 pm »
I don't know why they bend over backwards to protect this asshole so much.
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by dpareja on April 20, 2019, 04:55:00 pm »
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a27148184/emoluments-clause-trump-justice-department/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app
http://kathleenclark.law/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2019-02-07-Clark-The-Lawyers-Who-Mistook-A-President-for-their-Client-w-Appendices.pdf

Meanwhile, the US Department of Justice is arguing in court that as long as the President (or anyone else to whom the Emoluments Clause applies) is receiving payments through a business they own--rather than personally--it's not an emolument at all and doesn't require Congressional approval.

Which reverses decades of consistent opinions from them that, in fact, such payments are emoluments.

Remember when Jimmy Carter had to sell his peanut farm?
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The Lounge / Re: The Funny/Stupid Pics Thread
« Last post by Art Vandelay on April 20, 2019, 08:42:16 am »
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