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Title: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: VirtualStranger on October 22, 2012, 08:17:34 pm
The 3rd and final Presidential Debate between Obama and Romney will be held at 9pm EST / 6pm PST tonight at Lynn University in Boca Raton, Florida. This debate will be moderated by former Polk administration press secretary Bob Schieffer

Tonight's debate will focus entirely on foreign policy, and will be divided into 6 segments.

If you can't watch the debate on TV, it will be steamed online at the following links:

Politico (http://www.politico.com/livestream/?hp=pl)
LiveStream (http://new.livestream.com/USElection2012/events/1598521)
PBS (http://www.ustream.tv/pbsnewshour)
CBS (http://www.ustream.tv/cbsnews)
C-SPAN (http://www.c-span.org/Debates/)
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: VirtualStranger on October 22, 2012, 08:37:25 pm
Regardless of whoever the media decides has "won" this debate, this is going to be the most unapologetic display of American jingoism and imperialism in a long time. Can't wait to hear from the guy who thinks we should invade another middle eastern country and the other guy who doesn't want to invade them but will still murder them with drones for looking at us funny. Can't wait to see both candidates furiously compete to see who can suck Israel's dick the best.

No one wins in this debate. Not the American people and not some kids at a bakery in a Pakistani valley
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on October 22, 2012, 08:41:56 pm
Regardless of whoever "wins" I promise not to start fights concerning 3rd party candidates. Girl Scout's honor.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: m52nickerson on October 22, 2012, 08:42:51 pm
Regardless of whoever the media decides has "won" this debate, this is going to be the most unapologetic display of American jingoism and imperialism in a long time. Can't wait to hear from the guy who thinks we should invade another middle eastern country and the other guy who doesn't want to invade them but will still bomb them with drones for looking at us funny. Can't wait to see both candidates furiously compete to see who can suck Israel's dick the best.

No one wins in this debate. Not the American people and not some kids at a bakery in a Pakistani valley

"I have always been fond of the West African proverb: "Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far." " ~ Theodore Roosevelt
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: VirtualStranger on October 22, 2012, 09:13:52 pm
"Foreign policy of the 80's, social policy of the 50's and economic policies of the 20's"

"The 1980s called, they want their foreign policy back."

-Obama, on Romney's policies

SICK BURN
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: unknown on October 22, 2012, 09:31:05 pm
A response from tumblr (which is how I follow this):

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obama just called out romney on his foreign policy inconsistencies so romney responds with the equivalent of “attacking me isn’t gonna solve our problems”

oh my god
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Jebediah on October 22, 2012, 09:35:34 pm
Obama blinks ridiculously often. I can't stop watching it.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: VirtualStranger on October 22, 2012, 09:36:18 pm
Wait a minute, we're talking about small businesses and jobs now? I thought this was about foreign policy.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: agentCDE on October 22, 2012, 09:36:51 pm
Oh god damn it Jeb now I can't stop watching either.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: VirtualStranger on October 22, 2012, 09:42:01 pm
Jesus, now we're talking about education and the deficit?

Both candidates rightly realize that no one cares about dirty foreigners and switch to talking about what Americans really value: Ourselves.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on October 22, 2012, 09:45:08 pm
"We also have fewer horses and bayonets..."

Nice.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: VirtualStranger on October 22, 2012, 09:45:57 pm
"We also have fewer horses and bayonets..."

Nice.

"Our Navy is not a game of Battleship"

-President Barack Obama

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Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: RinellaWasHere on October 22, 2012, 09:54:40 pm
I'm in class. Anyone want to give me a quick summary so far?
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Damen on October 22, 2012, 09:56:58 pm
I'm in class. Anyone want to give me a quick summary so far?

Romney's lying and Obama's calling him an idiot and liar.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Veras on October 22, 2012, 09:59:39 pm
Wow, Obama's hair is getting grey.  The office of the presidency ages you but damn, he looks ten years older than he did two weeks ago.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on October 22, 2012, 10:00:14 pm
...did Romney say he'd indict Ahmadinejad for genocide? Dafuq?
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: VirtualStranger on October 22, 2012, 10:00:53 pm
I hate how it's impossible for any U.S. politician to do anything other than suck Israel's fat dick.

Fuck Israel.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Veras on October 22, 2012, 10:03:41 pm
Obama just jumped to Romney's right on the assassination of bin Laden.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on October 22, 2012, 10:04:08 pm
I hate how it's impossible for any U.S. politician to do anything other than suck Israel and defense contractors' fat dicks.
Fixed.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on October 22, 2012, 10:10:14 pm
Oh god the moderator said Obama bin Laden...
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: VirtualStranger on October 22, 2012, 10:12:39 pm
"America has never dictated to other nations?" Seriously? I can't even begin to estimate how many examples per year there are of America dictating by exercising its power. The same power Romney wants to expand and use. Fuck you, Romney.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: kefkaownsall on October 22, 2012, 10:41:24 pm
At least Romney was truth and agreed to continue the practice of blowing up brown kids
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: VirtualStranger on October 22, 2012, 10:52:32 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/EByBb.jpg)
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: cheese007 on October 22, 2012, 10:59:02 pm
Mitt Romney: "I like American cars." "I love teachers." How hollow can this man be?
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: ThunderWulf on October 22, 2012, 11:02:51 pm
I have a feeling there's going to be a SHITLOAD of Romney sayings and Obama burns memes after this debate.

Good god man...
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 22, 2012, 11:12:30 pm
After?

They're already making them and getting to the front page of Memebase.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: VirtualStranger on October 22, 2012, 11:15:28 pm
Oh god these callers on C-Span are so dumb as shit it's hilarious.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on October 22, 2012, 11:49:13 pm
Mitt Romney: "I like American cars." "I love teachers." How hollow can this man be?
I love lamp.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on October 23, 2012, 12:09:13 am
Also it seems that many people believe that Obama won (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/10/23/instant-polls-say-obama-won-final-debate/) the third and final debate.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: m52nickerson on October 23, 2012, 12:26:10 am
Obama just jumped to Romney's right on the assassination of bin Laden.

Don't think you are going to find many American voters, right or left, that care. 
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 23, 2012, 12:48:37 am
I'm honestly not sure what "To the right of Romney" means in that context.

I didn't watch the debates this time... I tuned in and then kinda just went... "Eh" and tuned out.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Veras on October 23, 2012, 12:53:21 am
Obama talked about how he went into Pakistan without asking permission, and the fact that Romney said in the 2008 Republican Primaries that he wouldn't go into Pakistan without permission.  The Democrat took the more aggressive, "fuck what foreign countries think, approach."
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: m52nickerson on October 23, 2012, 12:57:53 am
Tweets from Bill Maher....

Mitt's entire debate strategy: What he just said, but from a white guy

To Obama's point, I'm thinking our F-15s could defeat a statistically larger number of Red Barons

Yes yes yes! Hit em with "I wldn't move heaven and earth to get bin Laden" and "I'd ask Pakistan's permission" - Mitt, you were just WRONG!

To clarify, Mitt is for moving heaven and earth, but only in regards to mining

OK Mitt, one more try: we have fewer catapults and barrels of boiling oil than we had in the crusades.

OK, one last try: We have fewer Andrews Sisters and Ritz Brothers than we did in 1944. So glad we're done with THAT!
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 23, 2012, 01:01:59 am
Obama talked about how he went into Pakistan without asking permission, and the fact that Romney said in the 2008 Republican Primaries that he wouldn't go into Pakistan without permission.  The Democrat took the more aggressive, "fuck what foreign countries think, approach."

Ah, that.

I'm not sure how I feel about that, but I'm not sure that quantifies as any direction, left or right.  It just... is.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Veras on October 23, 2012, 01:13:57 am
Maybe not, but it's a basic hawk and dove thing.  Asking for permission to come into a country is ever so slightly more dovish than not going.  I find it interesting when candidates or parties end up reversing the expectation of where they should be.  On that issue, Obama took the more hawkish, militaristic stance.  Thus--interesting.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: VirtualStranger on October 23, 2012, 01:23:28 am
Right-wing pundits are already jumping on the "horses and bayonets" comment, claiming that the Marines still use bayonets.

Jesus Christ, I can't believe we let these idiots vote.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: kefkaownsall on October 23, 2012, 01:37:16 am
When was the last time a marine strapped a sword to his assault rifle and tell me who since that guy is badass
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 23, 2012, 02:04:36 am
I would actually like to see more guns with bayonets because gunblades are awesome.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: VirtualStranger on October 23, 2012, 02:19:04 am
So since Jill Stein and Rocky Anderson weren't allowed to attend the debates, they held their own instead. (They're not really debating each other as much as they're debating the mainstream candidates.)

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLneypbodq-jZ8Is-j1mrNPhiEZoVQ17Ni

OH MAN LOOK AT ALL THOSE REASONABLE OPINIONS
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Damen on October 23, 2012, 02:32:43 am
Right-wing pundits are already jumping on the "horses and bayonets" comment, claiming that the Marines still use bayonets.

Jesus Christ, I can't believe we let these idiots vote.

And the US Army dropped (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35887730/ns/us_news-military/t/army-training-bayonets-out-ab-blasters/) bayonet training back in 2010.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 23, 2012, 02:41:57 am
Aye...if you're goin close-quarters, it seems far more prudent to just pull a knife and stab a fucker, instead of taking the time to affix it to your rifle.  Much more responsive, that way.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: largeham on October 23, 2012, 02:55:49 am
Right-wing pundits are already jumping on the "horses and bayonets" comment, claiming that the Marines still use bayonets.

Jesus Christ, I can't believe we let these idiots vote.

And the US Army dropped (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35887730/ns/us_news-military/t/army-training-bayonets-out-ab-blasters/) bayonet training back in 2010.

IIRC the bayonet is still used in Australia for training. Jim Dunnigan has a lot of respect for the bayonet, supposedly it is damned good at opening cans and cutting food.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Yaezakura on October 23, 2012, 03:33:45 am
Right-wing pundits are already jumping on the "horses and bayonets" comment, claiming that the Marines still use bayonets.

Jesus Christ, I can't believe we let these idiots vote.

And the US Army dropped (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35887730/ns/us_news-military/t/army-training-bayonets-out-ab-blasters/) bayonet training back in 2010.

IIRC the bayonet is still used in Australia for training. Jim Dunnigan has a lot of respect for the bayonet, supposedly it is damned good at opening cans and cutting food.

But at that point, it's just a knife. It's not so useful for those things while strapped to the front of a gun. And our troops do get issued combat knives. Ones so sharp and durable, they're illegal for civilians to own.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: VirtualStranger on October 23, 2012, 04:10:13 am
Glenn Greenwald here to remind you that Obama and Romney's foreign policies are pretty much exactly the same.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/22/foreign-policy-presidential-debate
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: DrFishcake on October 23, 2012, 04:44:14 am
I see Ann Coulter is still his usual charming self, then.

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@AnnCoulter "I highly approve of Romney's decision to be kind and gentle to the retard."

https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/260581147493412865
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Vypernight on October 23, 2012, 06:34:21 am
I've been trying to watch these with an open mind, but I really believe Obama won this one.  He kept calling Romney on his B.S. over and over (I lost it at the Aircraft Carrier remark!).  Funny how Romney kept agreeing with Obama but twisting it to make it sound like his idea all along. 

Also, I like how romney boasted about how his state was so far ahead in education, only for Obama to chime in with, "That was before you came into office."

In addition, on CNN, a graph at the bottom of the screen measured the perception of undecided voters.  More often than not, it seemed to flatline whenever Romney spoke but jump whenever Obama spoke.  I hope that's promising.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on October 23, 2012, 10:42:50 am
I see Ann Coulter is still his usual charming self, then.

Quote
@AnnCoulter "I highly approve of Romney's decision to be kind and gentle to the retard."

https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/260581147493412865
Is that blonde airhead even relevant anymore?
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Damen on October 23, 2012, 12:50:34 pm
I see Ann Coulter is still his usual charming self, then.

Quote
@AnnCoulter "I highly approve of Romney's decision to be kind and gentle to the retard."

https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/260581147493412865
Is that blonde airhead even relevant anymore?

Your statement seems to be based off the assumption that she was ever relevant in the first place.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: KZN02 on October 23, 2012, 02:32:21 pm
The bayonet thing got me. I had a friend nearby who was watching the debate online. We still use bayonets in the US, but I think Obama was thinking something like this:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/Bayonette-p1000740.jpg/220px-Bayonette-p1000740.jpg)

Not like modern day knives that can be easily held and detach and attach when needed.

Also, I'm a little worried about Rock Beats Laser (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RockBeatsLaser) in some instances.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on October 23, 2012, 05:06:43 pm
Oh noes, the bayonet industry (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/23/obama-offend-bayonet-community-horses_n_2005868.html?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl1%7Csec3_lnk1%26pLid%3D224387) is all butthurt now!

No word from the horse and buggy industry yet.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: SimSim on October 23, 2012, 08:48:35 pm
Oh noes, the bayonet industry (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/23/obama-offend-bayonet-community-horses_n_2005868.html?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl1%7Csec3_lnk1%26pLid%3D224387) is all butthurt now!

No word from the horse and buggy industry yet.
They just give the English driving by in a car the evil eye.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Askold on October 24, 2012, 08:13:55 am
So that is where this came from:

(http://i.qkme.me/3rgo5p.jpg)


Hmm... Yeah, I guess that makes sense now.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Canadian Mojo on October 24, 2012, 01:24:18 pm
That's a lance.
Title: Re: 3rd Presidential Debate thread
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 24, 2012, 03:23:40 pm
DUUUUUUDE
HE'S SHOOTING RAINBOWS OUT OF HIS HANDS!

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE!

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