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Title: More proof that Christianity is true.
Post by: Jacob Harrison on November 08, 2018, 07:57:19 am
Last night I had a nightmare of there being a shooting. Today I found out that there was a shooting at a bar in California. God gave me the dream so that I could prove that Christianity is true. How do you explain the fact that I had a dream of a shooting before I found out about an actual one that happened?
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
Post by: rookie on November 08, 2018, 09:02:10 am
Yeah, but didn't you also dream about nailing your cousin behind the dunes? That would prove, what, he wants you happy?
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
Post by: KingOfRhye on November 08, 2018, 09:57:30 am
I see two perfectly reasonable possibilities that don't require a divine explanation:

1.  Sheer coincidence.  Also, it ain't exactly like shootings are an unheard-of event these days, sadly.  They've been in people's minds a lot lately, so for someone to dream of one and there then be an actual shooting the next day really doesn't strike me as a very remarkable coincidence.

2.  Or you never had such a dream, you're making it up. 
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
Post by: dpareja on November 08, 2018, 01:26:39 pm
perfectly reasonable

There's your problem right there, you're assuming people like Jakey-boy are reasonable.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on November 08, 2018, 03:00:21 pm
Last night I had a nightmare of there being a shooting. Today I found out that there was a shooting at a bar in California. God gave me the dream so that I could prove that Christianity is true. How do you explain the fact that I had a dream of a shooting before I found out about an actual one that happened?
Oh you tasteless little shit.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
Post by: a muslim Satanist on November 08, 2018, 03:27:11 pm
why did God give you the dream the night before the attack not 
say a week, so you could have give the prediction before the attack not after it.   
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on November 08, 2018, 03:31:20 pm
why did God give you the dream the night before the attack not 
say a week, so you could have give the prediction before the attack not after it.
C'mon man, omniscience, omnibenevolence  and omnipotence doesn't mean you can do anything useful.

Mysterious ways and shit!
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
Post by: Jacob Harrison on November 08, 2018, 04:11:25 pm
why did God give you the dream the night before the attack not 
say a week, so you could have give the prediction before the attack not after it.

That is a good point. If I gave an accurate prediction, it could have easily caused conversions.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
Post by: KingOfRhye on November 08, 2018, 08:44:08 pm
why did God give you the dream the night before the attack not 
say a week, so you could have give the prediction before the attack not after it.

That is a good point. If I gave an accurate prediction, it could have easily caused conversions.

If I felt I had foreknowledge of an event like that, I'd be more concerned about possibly saving some lives, not converting people or whatever....
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
Post by: Jacob Harrison on November 08, 2018, 08:51:13 pm
why did God give you the dream the night before the attack not 
say a week, so you could have give the prediction before the attack not after it.

That is a good point. If I gave an accurate prediction, it could have easily caused conversions.

If I felt I had foreknowledge of an event like that, I'd be more concerned about possibly saving some lives, not converting people or whatever....

Of course saving lives should be the first priority. But as a result of saving lives, people would be converted because they would know that a massacre was stopped by somebody who had foreknowledge.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
Post by: Skybison on November 08, 2018, 08:58:33 pm
Last night I had a nightmare of there being a shooting. Today I found out that there was a shooting at a bar in California. God gave me the dream so that I could prove that Christianity is true. How do you explain the fact that I had a dream of a shooting before I found out about an actual one that happened?
Oh you tasteless little shit.

Yeah seriously.  Jacob go fuck yourself, or admit this is tasteless and apologize.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
Post by: Jacob Harrison on November 08, 2018, 09:03:16 pm
Last night I had a nightmare of there being a shooting. Today I found out that there was a shooting at a bar in California. God gave me the dream so that I could prove that Christianity is true. How do you explain the fact that I had a dream of a shooting before I found out about an actual one that happened?
Oh you tasteless little shit.

Yeah seriously.  Jacob go fuck yourself, or admit this is tasteless and apologize.

I was not trying to take advantage of the massacre. I thought that the dream confirmed that God gave me knowledge of the massacre. Then KingofRhye pointed out that there have been many shootings so it could have been a coincidence. Then aMuslimSatanist pointed out that if it was from God, he would have given me the dream  sooner so that I would be able to predict it before it happened.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
Post by: KingOfRhye on November 08, 2018, 09:29:11 pm
Of course saving lives should be the first priority. But as a result of saving lives, people would be converted because they would know that a massacre was stopped by somebody who had foreknowledge.

If saving lives would be your first priority, then why was the first thing - the only thing - you mentioned converting people?  You didn't say anything about saving lives until I brought it up. 
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
Post by: Art Vandelay on November 08, 2018, 10:22:57 pm
Of course saving lives should be the first priority. But as a result of saving lives, people would be converted because they would know that a massacre was stopped by somebody who had foreknowledge.

If saving lives would be your first priority, then why was the first thing - the only thing - you mentioned converting people?  You didn't say anything about saving lives until I brought it up. 

This is the guy who wants to start a war between the US and pretty much all of Europe and the Middle East. Suffice it to say, saving lives isn't really priority #1 for him.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on November 08, 2018, 10:24:49 pm
Last night I had a nightmare of there being a shooting. Today I found out that there was a shooting at a bar in California. God gave me the dream so that I could prove that Christianity is true. How do you explain the fact that I had a dream of a shooting before I found out about an actual one that happened?
Oh you tasteless little shit.

Yeah seriously.  Jacob go fuck yourself, or admit this is tasteless and apologize.

I was not trying to take advantage of the massacre. I thought that the dream confirmed that God gave me knowledge of the massacre. Then KingofRhye pointed out that there have been many shootings so it could have been a coincidence. Then aMuslimSatanist pointed out that if it was from God, he would have given me the dream  sooner so that I would be able to predict it before it happened.
The backpedaling here indicates a tiny sliver of recognition that maybe this time you went too far. Blink and it'll disappear.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
Post by: Jacob Harrison on November 09, 2018, 07:25:54 am
Of course saving lives should be the first priority. But as a result of saving lives, people would be converted because they would know that a massacre was stopped by somebody who had foreknowledge.

If saving lives would be your first priority, then why was the first thing - the only thing - you mentioned converting people?  You didn't say anything about saving lives until I brought it up.

Because I knew that lives would obviously be saved if I predicted the massacre before it happened so I thought I didn’t need to state the obvious.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
Post by: Jacob Harrison on November 09, 2018, 07:27:04 am
Of course saving lives should be the first priority. But as a result of saving lives, people would be converted because they would know that a massacre was stopped by somebody who had foreknowledge.

If saving lives would be your first priority, then why was the first thing - the only thing - you mentioned converting people?  You didn't say anything about saving lives until I brought it up. 

This is the guy who wants to start a war between the US and pretty much all of Europe and the Middle East. Suffice it to say, saving lives isn't really priority #1 for him.

But the sacrifices made in the war will be for the greater good of restoring the true heir to the throne of England and liberating Constantinople and the Holy Land.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on November 09, 2018, 08:16:18 am
Of course saving lives should be the first priority. But as a result of saving lives, people would be converted because they would know that a massacre was stopped by somebody who had foreknowledge.

If saving lives would be your first priority, then why was the first thing - the only thing - you mentioned converting people?  You didn't say anything about saving lives until I brought it up.

Because I knew that lives would obviously be saved if I predicted the massacre before it happened so I thought I didn’t need to state the obvious.

"Hello, Federal Bureau of Investigation."
"Hello, it is I Jacob Harrison, channeler of wizards and discoverer of the True Throne of England. I have the gift of foresight, somewhere-sometime soon, someone will be shot. I see it in my dreams."
(hoarse whisper)"Trace the fucking call...(louder) yes sir, keep talking..."
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
Post by: Jacob Harrison on November 09, 2018, 08:26:36 am
Of course saving lives should be the first priority. But as a result of saving lives, people would be converted because they would know that a massacre was stopped by somebody who had foreknowledge.

If saving lives would be your first priority, then why was the first thing - the only thing - you mentioned converting people?  You didn't say anything about saving lives until I brought it up.

Because I knew that lives would obviously be saved if I predicted the massacre before it happened so I thought I didn’t need to state the obvious.

"Hello, Federal Bureau of Investigation."
"Hello, it is I Jacob Harrison, channeler of wizards and discoverer of the True Throne of England. I have the gift of foresight, somewhere-sometime soon, someone will be shot. I see it in my dreams."
(hoarse whisper)"Trace the fucking call...(louder) yes sir, keep talking..."

They would trace the call and it would also cause them to investigate the place where the shooting would happen, which would cause them to stop the shooting and realize that I was a prophet.