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Title: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: armandtanzarian on June 18, 2012, 08:30:35 am
Let's be clear. She will never know I'm posting here. Now that this is out of the way...

She was from a music forum I used to frequent very many years ago. In the time since, she's graduated to full on anti-vaccine campaigner, anti-pharma, anti-chemicals, you name the drill. I still keep her on because she's a fascinating look into this kind of craziness, but CBA to correct her anymore. The last time anyone did (on homeopathy), it resulted in a 100-post flame war between her and some people I met on #pharyngula IRC.

So anyway, her posts are amusing, sometimes infuriating. Now I'm sharing with you the crazy, give you a glimpse into the mind of the extremism we usually ignore. And there is a shitload of it; she's a very prolific poster. Enjoy.

Oh, and the following direct links are to anti-chemical advocacy groups that spread obvious lies. I will not shame the woman on my thread. Don't worry.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2865418453931&set=a.2856687955674.96987.1813884122&type=1
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/s720x720/181420_2865418453931_1484526026_n.jpg)

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=321399231278213&set=a.205217742896363.51219.205204719564332&type=1
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/208914_321399231278213_1086176795_n.jpg)

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=406404169403304&set=a.139128532797537.20543.133579170019140&type=1
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/542298_406404169403304_656111524_n.jpg)

A New Zealand antivax website: http://www.beyondconformity.co.nz/

She's also a dedicated naturopath, and makes money off this shit, not to mention goes to the NZ radio and advocates for chemical-free everything. So I'm not gonna try and convince her otherwise. But for the rest of you, bombs away.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Art Vandelay on June 18, 2012, 08:34:13 am
"99% of breast cancer tissue contained this everyday chemical".

Am I the only one who's suddenly reminded of the whole "dihydrogen monoxide" debarkle?
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Her3tiK on June 18, 2012, 05:19:43 pm
I've got a few of those people to deal with as well (worst of all being my mother). It's getting hard to respect them with the sheer stupidity they post (which could merit a thread of it's own), never mind keeping silent and not even bothering to correct them. Though that last part is mostly because it doesn't work.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: shykid on June 18, 2012, 06:17:11 pm
How, pray tell, do mammograms cause cancerʔ

Also, as for #2, correlation does not mean causation, etc. Not wearing deodorant does mean you will probably smell gross. If you smell nasty, then even more people will stay away from you than the ones who already do because you're crazy. Not vaccinating your children is already disgusting enough without your being literally physically disgusting.

Yeah, I kinda have mysophobia and big issues with people that have poor personal hygiene. >_> BO and poor hygiene are just...ugh to me to the max.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: armandtanzarian on June 19, 2012, 08:35:21 am
The "milk leads to osteoperosis" part is definitely new to me.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=369856503070304&set=a.156446951077928.41126.155836304472326&type=3
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/550911_369856503070304_2054293692_n.jpg)
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: starseeker on June 19, 2012, 10:45:23 am
The "milk leads to osteoperosis" part is definitely new to me.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=369856503070304&set=a.156446951077928.41126.155836304472326&type=3
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/550911_369856503070304_2054293692_n.jpg)

They do know there's a reason for lactose persistence in some populations right?
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: shykid on June 21, 2012, 12:55:06 pm
Mammograms cause breast cancer, milk causes osteoporosis... everything she posts is the opposite of reality!
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on June 22, 2012, 02:59:58 am
Her argument in sum: "sciency science and sciency stuff are bad-herp, derp".
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Random Gal on June 22, 2012, 11:02:12 pm
IF YOU CAN READ THIS, YOU NO LONGER NEED MILK FROM ANYONE'S MAMMARY GLANDS!

But what if I like sucking on mammary glands anyway?
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on June 24, 2012, 05:38:20 am
The "milk leads to osteoperosis" part is definitely new to me.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=369856503070304&set=a.156446951077928.41126.155836304472326&type=3
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/550911_369856503070304_2054293692_n.jpg)

Onoz, trace amounts of blood and pus. Good thing that almonds don't contain trace amounts of something harmful like, say, cyanide.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: armandtanzarian on June 24, 2012, 05:59:03 am
Posted an "open letter" today, from some lady claiming she's being hunted down by the (Irish) authorities for not vaccinating her child. No corroboration obviously.

http://www.invinciblerights.com/claires-story.html

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I have a 5 year old son. I am currently hiding away with my son to protect him from the authorities ( HSE, Gardaí, courts etc.) because of the, illegal, unlawful, uncaring and heavy handed  way I have been dealt with by the authorities, which has all stemmed from me not consenting to the school age vaccinations (MMR {measles, mumps & rubella}, & tetra vac 4in1 {polio, diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus}). I do have genuine concerns about these vaccinations, following my own research and listening to the views of many others including medical professionals

Its a long, crazy, unhinged screed on an unhinged website. Enjoy.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: sandman on June 24, 2012, 03:35:31 pm
Essential craziness I see on those links:

"The schedule they have now is sickening. And they re coming out with a vax for diarrhea and many other useless ones. Hopefully more people and wake up to see how ridiculous this is getting."  -Tara Hamilton

A vaccine for diarrhea? Really? This shows the basic level of stupidity we are dealing with here. Diarrhea is a symptom of literally thousands of different conditions. You can't vaccinate against a general symptom. Does this idiot think that there is a "diarrhea virus" out there?

"And not to mention most doctors do not vaccine their own children." -Jessiemarie Hutchinson (supposedly an RMA and a CNA)

That's one HELL of a claim. Wonder where her data to back it up is....? Later on in the thread someone posts proof that the vast majority of doctors do, in fact, vaccinate their children. Instead of admitting, hey, we were wrong, the True Believers instantly shift thinking in a manner that would make IngSoc proud and say "so that kind of tells you where the level of intelligence is currently in the medical system, doesnt it? Stupid is, as stupid does." Do they not see the epic doublethink going on here?

In their minds "they don't vaccinate because they are too smart to do it" instantly changes to "they vaccinate because they are too dumb to know better!" Either version (that doctors do or that doctors do not vaccinate their children) is "evidence" proving how evil vaccinations are. It would be impressive if it were not so depressing.

"If you are ok with injecting your child with aborted fetuses, monkey blood, chicken embroys and every other harmful chemical thats in a vaccine...then why not hand them a nice cold glass of bleach and hope for the best." -Jessiemarie Hutchinson again

We're back to the old "vaccines contain aborted fetuses" shit again? Really? REALLY?

"Antibiotics ???? No, No, No, you have to understand that antibiotics never cure anything they only kill our good white blood cells who ARE busy curing the infections [...] antibiotics are another HOAX used by the pharma cartel in fooling the public......best antibiotic is WATER, fresh air, sunshine and lots of sleep" -Ed Momeni

Big Pharma again, too, I see, but this is the first time I've heard the claim that antibiotics leave bacteria alone and kill of white blood cells. How then do they explain how someone dying of an infection gets an IV of antibiotics and almost immediately begins to improve...?

Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: kefkaownsall on June 24, 2012, 04:18:31 pm
How, pray tell, do mammograms cause cancerʔ

Also, as for #2, correlation does not mean causation, etc. Not wearing deodorant does mean you will probably smell gross. If you smell nasty, then even more people will stay away from you than the ones who already do because you're crazy. Not vaccinating your children is already disgusting enough without your being literally physically disgusting.

Yeah, I kinda have mysophobia and big issues with people that have poor personal hygiene. >_> BO and poor hygiene are just...ugh to me to the max.
Easy you wouldn't know you had cancer
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: SpaceProg on June 24, 2012, 04:21:06 pm
It's Schrodinger's Breast.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: QueenofHearts on June 24, 2012, 05:49:05 pm
Essential craziness I see on those links:

"The schedule they have now is sickening. And they re coming out with a vax for diarrhea and many other useless ones. Hopefully more people and wake up to see how ridiculous this is getting."  -Tara Hamilton

A vaccine for diarrhea? Really? This shows the basic level of stupidity we are dealing with here. Diarrhea is a symptom of literally thousands of different conditions. You can't vaccinate against a general symptom. Does this idiot think that there is a "diarrhea virus" out there?

I did a report on this subject for a class (Politics of developing countries & the report was methods to reduce diarrhea-caused deaths in India), but funny as it may sound to us in the 1st world, diarrhea is the leading cause of death in the world among children under 5. Diarrhea deaths are most prevalent in India and Niger. The most common cause of diarrhea is the rotavirus followed by cholera and vaccines for both exist. Though the vaccines are rarely used because those hit hardest by diarrhea deaths are often poorer towns who lack the money for such medicine and in many instances oral rehydration therapy is cheaper. Thought I would add this as a bit of an addendum to Sandman and in response to the anti-vax lady who thinks vaccines for diarrhea are useless when, again, diarrhea is the leading cause of death among small children.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: sandman on June 24, 2012, 06:29:55 pm
Yes, I am well aware of the horrific dangers of dysentery and other diseases which present with diarrhea as a primary or secondary symptom. I was commenting on the poster's ignorance of the fact that diarrhea is a symptom and not a disease in and of itself. It's basic medicine that you alleviate the symptoms when you can, but treat the disease. Now in cases like cholera and the rotovirus, when the symptom can kill all by itself, it is utterly essential to alleviate that symptom, but you still treat the disease as the primary cause.

You can't just give someone a "diarrhea vaccine." It's a potentially deadly symptom with thousands of possible causes. That's one of the reasons the preferred method of treatment in so many parts of the world is oral re-hydration. They are not trying to cure the cause because they probably don't know what it is, so their primary goal is to simply enable the victim to survive the symptom, cross their fingers, and hope for the best.

Rotovirus and cholera vaccines are damn near essential in some parts of the world, and it's assholes like this that are helping to make sure those who need them desperately do not get them by calling into question their very existence.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: QueenofHearts on June 24, 2012, 06:50:29 pm
I meant to add to what you were saying, I never meant to say anything along the lines of you were wrong because you weren't. I also should've added that the main benefit of the vaccines is if there is an outbreak of such diseases, in which case we know which virus is the cause, and not in prevention of regular, somewhat isolated, occurrences. Maybe I should have been a bit clearer though in saying that I was just trying to add to your point that this lady is clearly looking at this problem through 1st world specs and doesn't understand how such things as diarrhea can be deadly and such a vaccine could be life saving (not even getting into a biochemical stance that she is taking as I don't know that well enough to tell her why she's wrong).
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on June 24, 2012, 09:58:04 pm
Wrong anti-vaxxer is wrong. That's all that needs to be said about this thread.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: armandtanzarian on June 25, 2012, 09:41:43 am
Massive pic on vaccines. (http://klme.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/vaccine.jpg)
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on June 25, 2012, 04:26:10 pm
Oh FFS...

Being afraid of injecting bacteria into your body via vaccines is like being afraid of getting your pinky finger wet while dancing naked in the rain.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: armandtanzarian on June 26, 2012, 09:34:23 am
Also, so much wrong...
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=412511538792567&set=a.139128532797537.20543.133579170019140&type=1
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532647_412511538792567_1190701228_n.jpg)

Fuck I'm not a bio-major or doctor and even I know about the principle of herd immunization.

Also I realized since starting to track her I've posted something crazy almost everyday. She's like a bottomless well of idiocy. I wonder how long I can keep this up before I lose the will to live.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on June 26, 2012, 09:37:43 am
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532647_412511538792567_1190701228_n.jpg)

Apart from the failure to understand herd immunity, there's also the fact that I'm concerned about the well-being of your unvaccinated child.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: armandtanzarian on June 28, 2012, 07:43:41 am
Oh look, a "chemtrails" FB group.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/STOP-Spraying-Our-Skies-NOW/246897408657673

(Chemtrails is the belief that the fog trails that come from jet planes actually contain whatever chemical of the month the Government is spraying the populace with)
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: shykid on June 28, 2012, 08:03:08 am
Massive pic on vaccines. (http://klme.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/vaccine.jpg)

I like how the argument here amounts to "81 is a big number, vaccines are WRONG."

Being afraid of injecting bacteria into your body via vaccines is like being afraid of getting your pinky finger wet while dancing naked in the rain.

ETA: Someone tell this dumb bitch about Botox. It's live botulism and useful for almost everything under the sun: muscle spasms, Parkinson's, migraines, nasal drip, eye spasms/twitching, excessive sweating, body odor, ulcers, fibromyalgia, grinding and clenching teeth, numbing facial wrinkles into submission, and probably several other things.

(Fun Fact: Botox was used for most of the former things before it became famous for numbing people's facial muscles into the uncanny valley. Doctors and migraine patients only serendipitously discovered the "side effect" of it masking their forehead wrinkles by temporarily paralyzing the muscles. The moar you know~~*)

Ironically, I'm a mysophobe probably to the point of it being a clinical problem, and vaccines and Botox don't bother me. I guess being used medicinally under the supervision of a doctor somehow makes them safe or "sterilized" in my mind or something. Fuck if I know.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Sleepy on June 28, 2012, 11:02:29 am
Oh look, a "chemtrails" FB group.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/STOP-Spraying-Our-Skies-NOW/246897408657673

(Chemtrails is the belief that the fog trails that come from jet planes actually contain whatever chemical of the month the Government is spraying the populace with)

I didn't know about this until a couple months ago when a security guard at my school stopped me and forced me to watched a bunch of videos on it. It's good to know a man in such a position is that far off his rocker.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: armandtanzarian on June 28, 2012, 11:29:54 am
Being afraid of injecting bacteria into your body via vaccines is like being afraid of getting your pinky finger wet while dancing naked in the rain.

ETA: Someone tell this dumb bitch about Botox. It's live botulism and useful for almost everything under the sun: muscle spasms, Parkinson's, migraines, nasal drip, eye spasms/twitching, excessive sweating, body odor, ulcers, fibromyalgia, grinding and clenching teeth, numbing facial wrinkles into submission, and probably several other things.

(Fun Fact: Botox was used for most of the former things before it became famous for numbing people's facial muscles into the uncanny valley. Doctors and migraine patients only serendipitously discovered the "side effect" of it masking their forehead wrinkles by temporarily paralyzing the muscles. The moar you know~~*)

Ironically, I'm a mysophobe probably to the of it being a clinical problem, and vaccines and Botox don't bother me. I guess being used medicinally under the supervision of a doctor somehow makes them safe or "sterilized" in my mind or something. Fuck if I know.
Looking at her facebook I doubt she'll be able to step into a hospital or clinic again without spasming. Likely she'll just get some "miracle cures" that won't turn out to be miracles if something bad happens.

Sad but won't be the first time.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 28, 2012, 12:12:08 pm
The human body naturally contains a lot of bacteria, even in the mouth alone.

Remove this bacteria, and the human body actually starts to suffer a bit.

Bacteria != bad.

I wonder if this person even understands how vaccines work - yes, you're injecting a virus into someone's body.  An incredibly weakened virus that your immune system will quickly deal with once it recognizes it as a threat, allowing it to deal with the stronger version of that virus quickly before it has time to settle in and start making corrupted cells...

...Viruses are, on a side note, interesting things...
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: armandtanzarian on June 28, 2012, 07:05:37 pm
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/582542_407459185942929_82644422_n.jpg)
No link this time because the original poster is also an individual account.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: SpaceProg on June 28, 2012, 08:10:56 pm
My Prozac pills are yummy.  Prozac good.  Strong tooth enamel good.  Brain is nice.  You not have brain.  Feel sorry for you.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: shykid on June 28, 2012, 09:50:07 pm
To get enough fluoride to cause brain damage or death from tap water, you'd have to drink enough of it to die of water poisoning anyway, so you'd get the same effect drinking water that isn't fluoridated.

Anti-fluoride people make me RAEG just like anti-vaxers. Not having fluoridated water or fluoride treatments partially contributed to why I have a mouth full of porcelain and metal.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: armandtanzarian on July 02, 2012, 12:36:42 pm
Today we have a website claiming that a 6-year old girl is healed of autism using the usual quackery of supplements and organics. Warning, the website has music.
http://www.regardingcaroline.com/biomedheals
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 02, 2012, 03:36:59 pm
Warning, the website has music.

*moves mouse as far away from the link as he can*
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: starseeker on July 02, 2012, 03:47:07 pm
At least it's not a midi....
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on July 02, 2012, 04:36:42 pm
At least it's not a midi....

*cringes and curls into shuddering fetal position on the floor*
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 02, 2012, 11:49:21 pm
Hey now, some midis sound great for their age.

I still hate websites that autoplay music.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on July 03, 2012, 01:33:02 am
Yes, especially when they can't be turned off, or if the "off" button is on some obscure location on the page - for instance, half-covered by a picture because of shitty HTML formatting.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: SpaceProg on July 03, 2012, 05:09:03 am
Ahh... takes me back to ye olde GeoCities days.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Hades on July 03, 2012, 07:29:41 am
Off-topic, but this website has the best music http://www.justlikesugarinc.com/
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: armandtanzarian on July 06, 2012, 10:12:44 am
I have found a treasure trove!
http://www.jimcorr.com/
(http://www.jimcorr.com/images/stories/fluor_dess.jpg)

Quote
This becomes evident when one studies 9/11. Indeed that event is the nexus doorway into the bigger picture, being the push towards global governance, the formation of an elite run totalitarian One World Government with the subjugated masses underneath.
 
Fake terror and phoney environmentalism are being used, to trick you into giving up more and more of your civil liberties, as we are being incrementally herded into a One World Government Dictatorship.

The light at the end of the tunnel is that millions upon millions of people are waking up to this unfolding Orwellian nightmarish agenda which will be averted once we collectively waken up!

Basically there's every classic conspiracy you've got, 9/11, 7/7, NWO... From "Financial Crisis":
Quote
I believe that what we're now witnessing is an engineered global financial collapse, an implosion of the world economy by design.
 
To understand this we need to look at the Federal Reserve Bank in the US and the crash of 1929-1933.
 
People may not know this but the Federal reserve bank is a private bank, which is in private hands. It is no more Federal than 'Federal Express'.
 
With the passage of the Federal Reserve Act of December 23rd 1913, the federal reserve took control of the nations money supply, effectively usurping the government.
 
The federal reserve bank was blamed with the crash of 1929.
 
To quote Milton Friedman, the Nobel prize winning economist he said...
 
"The Federal Reserve definitely caused the Great Depression by contracting Americas' money supply by one third between 1929 and 1933."
 
Quoting Ben Bernanke at a conference to honor Milton Friedman on November 8, 2002: "Let me end my talk by abusing slightly my status as an official representative of the Federal Reserve. I would like to say to Milton and Anna: Regarding the Great Depression. You were right, we did it. We're very sorry. But thanks to you, we won't do it again." Clearly Bernanke lied.
Only a tiny excerpt. Go forth and wade if you dare.

EDIT: Holy fucking shit this guy is the male member of the Irish pop group "The Corrs".
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: kefkaownsall on July 06, 2012, 10:23:27 am
I should tell them that we need to stop breathing Dioxide as we take in too much oxygen that way.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: MadCatTLX on July 12, 2012, 06:25:24 pm
On "diarrhea vaccine", I think they might not know what diphtheria is, and be confusing the two.

Armand, have you tried telling her about the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide? Also try this video of James Randi explaining homeopathy quite well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWE1tH93G9U
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Rime on July 13, 2012, 05:26:34 pm
Today we have a website claiming that a 6-year old girl is healed of autism using the usual quackery of supplements and organics. Warning, the website has music.
http://www.regardingcaroline.com/biomedheals

There isn't a lot known about what causes autism, or rather what causes the symptoms to get so severe.  There was a story of a girl who is nonverbal, but she can manage on a keyboard and her symptoms seem to be massive overstimulation.  There are also cases of some people who have a condition called heavy metal affinity.  And while normal people usually shed stuff like lead and mercury, these individuals will not.  There are also some who are environmentally sensitive to a severe degree, and autism-like symptoms will worsen because of it.

I can see the point to removing the sulfites, nitrites, food coloring, artificial flavors, gluten and other possible sources of agitation which you'll find in cheap everyday foods, and I can see how some children become "cured."  But to ever claim that this is the cure for autism should be a criminal offense.  Regardless of the parent's desperation level.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: armandtanzarian on July 13, 2012, 11:29:18 pm
Today we have a website claiming that a 6-year old girl is healed of autism using the usual quackery of supplements and organics. Warning, the website has music.
http://www.regardingcaroline.com/biomedheals

There isn't a lot known about what causes autism, or rather what causes the symptoms to get so severe.  There was a story of a girl who is nonverbal, but she can manage on a keyboard and her symptoms seem to be massive overstimulation.  There are also cases of some people who have a condition called heavy metal affinity.  And while normal people usually shed stuff like lead and mercury, these individuals will not.  There are also some who are environmentally sensitive to a severe degree, and autism-like symptoms will worsen because of it.

I can see the point to removing the sulfites, nitrites, food coloring, artificial flavors, gluten and other possible sources of agitation which you'll find in cheap everyday foods, and I can see how some children become "cured."  But to ever claim that this is the cure for autism should be a criminal offense.  Regardless of the parent's desperation level.
I suppose maybe that's why I like to pay attention to this side of the conspiracy spectrum more than any other; chemtrails and lizardmen don't affect my health, but vaccines and natural foods do. No one in their right mind here doesn't think the amount of chemicals in food is harmful, but our moderation of such foods has to be sensible and fact-based. These idiots are not helping with their conspiracies, and in antivaxxers and denialism, they actually cause irrepairable harm.

Speaking of denialism, one of her friends posted this AIDS-denialism gem today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaA6zLUPfvk
Quote
"Biologist and researcher Christl Meyer has provided scientific evidence
proving without doubt that the so called "HIV-virus", which is claimed
to be the cause of AIDS, does not exist.
In this interview with Jane Burgermeister, Christl Meyer explains the
HIV conspiracy and why the HIV vaccine campaign must be considered a
genocide against Africans and the "Third World". In addition the
campaign for HIV disturbs the Human Rights of everyone.
Because there is no virus causing a syndrome called AIDS, there is no
standard for a HIV (AIDS) test. People can show positive even after a
flu vaccine."
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: armandtanzarian on July 26, 2012, 10:56:33 am
Alright time to bring this back before it gets autolocked.
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/528869_268066956635316_270777610_n.jpg)
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=268066956635316&set=a.223064071135605.45905.222272341214778&type=1&relevant_count=1

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/545532_260725274043515_1143053751_n.jpg)
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=260725274043515&set=a.252174508231925.54841.117418238374220&type=1&relevant_count=1

BTW she's heavily involved in this group called the IAS (http://www.ias.org.nz/), which is a Kiwi society of anti-vaxxers. Should be a gold mine for anyone who cares to look. They're also doing roadshows which is the dangerous part.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Her3tiK on July 26, 2012, 11:29:29 am
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/545532_260725274043515_1143053751_n.jpg)
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=260725274043515&set=a.252174508231925.54841.117418238374220&type=1&relevant_count=1
It's like having a massive hole gouged in it by an airplane might compromise it's structural integrity or something...

But that's absurd, we all know it wasn't a plane that hit the WTC  ::)
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: armandtanzarian on August 04, 2012, 10:41:24 am
Today I bring you Dr. Leonard Coldwell, who claims cancer can be cured in minutes, up to weeks. There's some shit about pH levels. I lost the thread about 30 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I67BqdFKL38
http://drleonardcoldwell.com/

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In my experience the mandatory treatment of slaughter called surgery, burning called radiation, or poisoning called chemotherapy, leads to unbelievable horror, loss of quality of life, the massive spreading of the disease and most of all inhumane suffering and early death.

Its my opinion that the “chemical doctors” do not have a cure and in my opinion most people would be better off without treatment than with all of the cutting, poisoning or burning.

The promotion of early detection, saying it will save your life or breast is, in my experience, a blatant lie. What Ive witnessed is that early detection simply means the instant start of suffering due to mandatory treatments and the loss of quality of life, pain and suffering and an inhumane death.

Why do I know this? I cured my mother of liver cancer that was in a terminal state over 30 years ago without surgery, chemotherapy or radiation. Her healing regimen was completely natural and cost less than $3,000.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 04, 2012, 04:33:39 pm
...
*snap*

YOU SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH YOU QUACK.

THOSE DOCTORS YOU DENIGRATE SAVED MY MOTHER'S LIFE, SO YOU CAN GO TO HELL!
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Nightangel8212 on August 04, 2012, 10:40:38 pm
If it wasn't for medications, my mother would've been dead a long time ago.

If it wasn't for surgery, BOTH of my parents, as well as pretty much everyone in my immediate family would have been dead a long time ago. Hell, I and my brother would have died the day we were born!

I hate assholes like this. For some reason it reminds me of those guys my brother brought home from a church he had started attending. They laid hands on my mom and tried to claim they had healed her of her epilepsy.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: SpaceProg on August 04, 2012, 10:52:27 pm
Oh he could have, you know.  You/she just didn't believe hard enough.  *Rolls eyes*
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: armandtanzarian on August 05, 2012, 12:02:58 am
And now, chemtrails.

http://www.dataasylum.com/bioapi-physical-fibers-evidence.html
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chemtrails spray the entire planet with nano-fibers which you breathe in. These fibers contain (nano) components which construct and install nano-implants which the aggregate of constitutes what is commonly known as a Biological Application Programming Interface allowing for complete monitoring & control of all body and mind functions in a given host (you, and everyone on the entire plant). Below are the basics, which is all that's required for a broader understanding of these nano-fibers. The first few examples show an actual payload within a fiber (which would be used in the installation of a nano-implant for example). The colored fibers are just examples of what else can be seen, and the last example is a petri dish of nano-fibers from an average person such as yourself. The fiber images are about 200x magnification, any standard microscope will let you see these fibers. You can view these fibers yourself right now if you want, they are all around you. Some fibers move on their own, they sort of wiggle, yet have no organelles proving they are not organic or biological in nature.

All of these fibers are in your body and brain. All fibers and constructs are viewable with the naked eye (just barely) under a proper wavelength of blacklight. For more information on the nano-fibers and how to extract them from your body refer to the bottom of this page for nano-fiber extraction details.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Cerim Treascair on August 05, 2012, 12:52:24 am
Armand, that was PAINFUL!
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Distind on August 05, 2012, 06:57:24 am
Those sound like the most awesome chemtrails ever btw.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on August 05, 2012, 11:51:56 am
Those sound like the most awesome chemtrails ever btw.

That's just the nano fibers speaking.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: SpaceProg on August 05, 2012, 12:13:36 pm
It's like Thread, but... less burny and more (pseudo)sciency!
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Cerim Treascair on August 05, 2012, 02:57:56 pm
It's like Thread, but... less burny and more (pseudo)sciency!

*fist-bump for a classic Pern reference*
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: SpaceProg on August 05, 2012, 06:53:29 pm
*Bumps back* You know it. :)
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Random Gal on August 05, 2012, 10:21:26 pm
That post is basically combining chemtrails with "Morgellon's Disease," another pile of conspiracy woo.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: SpaceProg on August 06, 2012, 03:26:09 am
Yeah I remember seeing a thing on TV about Morgellon's Disease.  Oddly enough it was on one of those Diagnosis shows that I watch.  Supposedly non fiction.   
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 06, 2012, 06:27:28 am
It's like Thread, but... less burny and more (pseudo)sciency!

Thread at least has a semblance of life, though.

This stuff is just... anti-life, basically XD
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Cerim Treascair on August 07, 2012, 05:12:57 pm
It's like Thread, but... less burny and more (pseudo)sciency!

Thread at least has a semblance of life, though.

This stuff is just... anti-life, basically XD

*snickers*
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Distind on August 08, 2012, 12:57:03 pm
Those sound like the most awesome chemtrails ever btw.

That's just the nano fibers speaking.

Which is why it's so cool.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: armandtanzarian on August 10, 2012, 09:46:14 am
She keeps posting this link that claims an HPV vaccine caused the death of a teenager, because "foreign rDNA was found in her blood".
http://vactruth.com/2012/08/09/gardasil-rdna-coroners-inquest/?utm_source=The+Vaccine+Truth+Newsletter&utm_campaign=30bac7b33b-08_09_2012_rdna&utm_medium=email

Anyone care to break this down?
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According to testimony presented via international video link before a coroner’s inquest in Wellington, New Zealand, (August 9 NZ) by Dr. Sin Hang Lee (August 8 USA), a pathologist on the medical staff of Milford Hospital in the State of Connecticut, “residual HPV DNA fragments from the viral gene or plasmid injected with Gardasil®” have been found six months after that vaccination (series) was given to Jasmine Renata.  Ms. Renata, a teenager, died in her sleep of unknown and unexplained causes.  An autopsy was performed to determine cause of death.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 10, 2012, 05:33:29 pm
Correlation != Causation.

And there isn't even enough evidence for correlation.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: SpaceProg on August 10, 2012, 10:23:21 pm
Sure there is.  It's called the Wackadoo Factor.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: armandtanzarian on August 14, 2012, 09:16:10 am
Another wonderful link:

http://vactruth.com/2012/08/12/vaccinations-killing-kids/?utm_source=The+Vaccine+Truth+Newsletter&utm_campaign=ad1fdd78ec-08_12_2012_kids&utm_medium=email
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The Financial Express stated that a NGO (Non Government Organization) vaccinated a total of 24 babies between the ages of 18 months and 2 years with the vaccine and 15 of them developed complications. Of these 15, three had died and several more were still undergoing treatment.

I would like to add that the report seemed to place a strong emphasis on the fact that these children were vaccinated by a Non Government Organization, which I feel Is yet another ploy to enable the authorities to pass the buck at a later stage.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Radiation on August 14, 2012, 02:06:47 pm
Another wonderful link:

http://vactruth.com/2012/08/12/vaccinations-killing-kids/?utm_source=The+Vaccine+Truth+Newsletter&utm_campaign=ad1fdd78ec-08_12_2012_kids&utm_medium=email
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The Financial Express stated that a NGO (Non Government Organization) vaccinated a total of 24 babies between the ages of 18 months and 2 years with the vaccine and 15 of them developed complications. Of these 15, three had died and several more were still undergoing treatment.

I would like to add that the report seemed to place a strong emphasis on the fact that these children were vaccinated by a Non Government Organization, which I feel Is yet another ploy to enable the authorities to pass the buck at a later stage.

I don't know much about the science behind vaccines I'll admit. However parents usually are warned about such complications before the vaccine is injected and as I have heard, and someone more knowledgeable can probably provide this, is that complications from vaccines, at least severe ones are extremely rare.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: armandtanzarian on August 23, 2012, 07:54:15 am
Another non-sequiteur:
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/484513_493546547324783_257449500_n.jpg)
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=493546547324783&set=a.361837760495663.95686.176963112316463&type=1

I really don't understand the deal with raw milk. Seriously.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Distind on August 23, 2012, 08:34:57 am
Because raw milk tends to carry various viruses and other pathogens which humans can't deal with particularly well? Pasteurization ensures they aren't there, or at least does a far better job of it.

Also, I'm wondering just what is so scary about twinkies. I just have the phrase death twinkie marching through my head now.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 23, 2012, 02:29:30 pm
Also, I'm wondering just what is so scary about twinkies. I just have the phrase death twinkie marching through my head now.

Probably the urban legend about it never spoiling.

Funny... it used to be the idea that food that never spoiled was considered miracle food.  Now it's considered evil.  Strange.

So, yes, a twinkie is healthier for you than raw milk.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Distind on August 23, 2012, 05:19:50 pm
Also, I'm wondering just what is so scary about twinkies. I just have the phrase death twinkie marching through my head now.

Probably the urban legend about it never spoiling.
These people have obviously never eaten a stale twinkie.

As a note, when at some random motel somewhere and you have an odd craving for twinkies, go to the gas station nearby and not the vending machine.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Cerim Treascair on August 23, 2012, 05:35:49 pm
Also, 'death twinkie' would be an awesome band name.  Just sayin'
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on August 23, 2012, 07:57:20 pm
Also, 'death twinkie' would be an awesome band name.  Just sayin'

You start "Death Twinkie," and I'll start "Death Camp Orgy Girls on Acid."

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Cerim Treascair on August 23, 2012, 11:21:55 pm
Also, 'death twinkie' would be an awesome band name.  Just sayin'

You start "Death Twinkie," and I'll start "Death Camp Orgy Girls on Acid."

(click to show/hide)

You have yourself a deal!
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: SpaceProg on August 24, 2012, 12:54:10 am
Don't forget "Atomic Flame-Throwing Vagina". 
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: armandtanzarian on September 04, 2012, 10:40:11 am
I've noticed this thing about conspiratards, generally they're inclined to believe they some sort of super-secret knowledge over the idiotic masses, which makes them better than everyone else. This pretty much strengthens the whole delusion for them.

http://www.activistpost.com/2012/09/10-signs-that-youre-fully-awake.html

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Here are ten signs you may be fully awake: (selected  -Ed)
2. You understand that the Federal Reserve, or international central banking more broadly, is the engine of our economic problems: Debt slavery is the totalitarian force that threatens all of humanity, not some temporary political puppet or some greedy Wall Street trader. When a small group of people have the ability to create wealth out of nothing and charge interest on it, they have the ability to enslave the planet to their ownership despite what type of government a country claims to have.
8. You know that the endgame is one-world control of planet Earth: Once you understand that the endgame for the ruling elite is to have complete control of all vital facets of society through a global government, one-world currency, international armed forces, and so on, it is simple to see through the lies and propaganda surrounding even the most confusing world events. You will never go back to sleep when you fully accept this reality.
10. The power to change the world rests with you and you alone: For too long people have believed themselves to be weak, or relied on others to change the world for them. You'll know that you're fully awake when you realize that you have infinite power to change the world by simply living the change you want to see. First, you have to identify the principles that you believe in and then go out and live by them. If just a small minority took steps to do this, it would shake the establishment to its core.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: RavynousHunter on September 04, 2012, 07:02:22 pm
I won't go back to sleep after learning the truth?  Uhh, scro, that doesn't make your argument palatable to, like, anyone.  At all.  I like being able to sleep.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: armandtanzarian on September 06, 2012, 05:46:45 am
Oh look, Donald Trump is an anti-vaxxer.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152053724030725&set=a.488852220724.393301.153080620724&type=1
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/378582_10152053724030725_368094580_n.jpg)

Edit: Crazy lady is on a roll today.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=499257556769144&set=a.362269433801291.103621.362231420471759&type=1
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/377356_499257556769144_2087959879_n.jpg)
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: armandtanzarian on September 16, 2012, 12:04:38 am
Need some checking on this.
(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/285481_10151136286733818_1603455108_n.jpg)
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: SpaceProg on September 16, 2012, 03:09:43 am
Shows how much I know, really.  My fillings are composite material.  I didn't think dentists used the metal ones anymore.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: Cerim Treascair on September 16, 2012, 10:44:36 am
Shows how much I know, really.  My fillings are composite material.  I didn't think dentists used the metal ones anymore.

Yeah, likewise... y'know, despite having a dozen of them in my lifetime.
Title: Re: FB Postings by the antivax crazy lady on my friends' list
Post by: starseeker on September 16, 2012, 01:43:09 pm
Shows how much I know, really.  My fillings are composite material.  I didn't think dentists used the metal ones anymore.

Yeah, likewise... y'know, despite having a dozen of them in my lifetime.

One of mine that just fell out is one of those, but it's a fairly big and awkward one.