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Re: 150 arrested in child prostitution sting
« Reply #60 on: August 03, 2013, 10:07:09 pm »
His idea is more humiliation than anything. Which, to a lot of people, is worse than death. I cringe and cover my eyes when a character in a show or movie is being embarrassed, and my father does the same.

This is out of topic but I just want to point out that Finnish language has a word for that: Myötähäpeä. It means feeling the shame/embarrassment FOR a different person. We also have a word for shcadenfreude, vahingonilo, but this is a completely opposite reaction to another persons plight.
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Re: 150 arrested in child prostitution sting
« Reply #61 on: August 04, 2013, 12:18:27 am »
Let's not let murderers, rapists, and child molesters make the rest of us worse people.
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Re: 150 arrested in child prostitution sting
« Reply #62 on: August 04, 2013, 02:56:29 am »
His idea is more humiliation than anything. Which, to a lot of people, is worse than death. I cringe and cover my eyes when a character in a show or movie is being embarrassed, and my father does the same.

This is out of topic but I just want to point out that Finnish language has a word for that: Myötähäpeä. It means feeling the shame/embarrassment FOR a different person. We also have a word for shcadenfreude, vahingonilo, but this is a completely opposite reaction to another persons plight.
English needs that word.
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Re: 150 arrested in child prostitution sting
« Reply #63 on: August 04, 2013, 02:57:45 am »
His idea is more humiliation than anything. Which, to a lot of people, is worse than death. I cringe and cover my eyes when a character in a show or movie is being embarrassed, and my father does the same.

This is out of topic but I just want to point out that Finnish language has a word for that: Myötähäpeä. It means feeling the shame/embarrassment FOR a different person. We also have a word for shcadenfreude, vahingonilo, but this is a completely opposite reaction to another persons plight.
English needs that word.

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Re: 150 arrested in child prostitution sting
« Reply #64 on: August 04, 2013, 03:08:36 am »
His idea is more humiliation than anything. Which, to a lot of people, is worse than death. I cringe and cover my eyes when a character in a show or movie is being embarrassed, and my father does the same.

This is out of topic but I just want to point out that Finnish language has a word for that: Myötähäpeä. It means feeling the shame/embarrassment FOR a different person. We also have a word for shcadenfreude, vahingonilo, but this is a completely opposite reaction to another persons plight.
English needs that word.

Is "empathy" not good enough? I know it covers more than JUST that, but still...

Empathy is like: "Oh that person must be so embarrased right now." It means that you know how a person feels, while myötähäpeä means that YOU are experiencing the embarrassment yourself. For example while watching the latest reality-tv show and the contestants are making fools of themselves just for the chance to get on TV and you cannot bear to watch it because of myötähäpeä.
No matter what happens, no matter what my last words may end up being, I want everyone to claim that they were:
"If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine."
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Re: 150 arrested in child prostitution sting
« Reply #65 on: August 04, 2013, 06:16:45 am »
Empathy is like: "Oh that person must be so embarrased right now." It means that you know how a person feels, while myötähäpeä means that YOU are experiencing the embarrassment yourself. For example while watching the latest reality-tv show and the contestants are making fools of themselves just for the chance to get on TV and you cannot bear to watch it because of myötähäpeä.

I so know that feeling! Now if only I could pronounce the word...

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Re: 150 arrested in child prostitution sting
« Reply #66 on: August 04, 2013, 09:37:10 am »
Its so said that i only experience myötähäpeä when im watching sitcoms, and i have to turn it off because of it
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Re: 150 arrested in child prostitution sting
« Reply #67 on: August 04, 2013, 11:41:18 am »
We call it "Vergüenza ajena", which literally translates to "other's shame". It's the same concept as myötähäpeä, but with more words and fewer diaeresis.
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Re: 150 arrested in child prostitution sting
« Reply #68 on: August 04, 2013, 02:55:53 pm »
I think "empathy" works because of its sci fi connotations with empaths, people who can literally feel another's emotions.

On the other hand, "sympathy" works for the whole "Oh, that person must be feeling that way, I feel sorry for them" role instead.
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Re: 150 arrested in child prostitution sting
« Reply #69 on: August 04, 2013, 03:24:57 pm »
I think "empathy" works because of its sci fi connotations with empaths, people who can literally feel another's emotions.

On the other hand, "sympathy" works for the whole "Oh, that person must be feeling that way, I feel sorry for them" role instead.
It's less feeling sorry, and more just "AWKWARD AWKWARD AHHHH!" Like, we feel extremely embarrassed and awkward because the characters are in an embarrassing or awkward situation. Both of us tend to watch that shit with one eye open, through our fingers.
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Re: 150 arrested in child prostitution sting
« Reply #70 on: August 04, 2013, 03:31:15 pm »
That would be what I mean by empathy.
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Re: 150 arrested in child prostitution sting
« Reply #71 on: August 04, 2013, 03:34:39 pm »
That would be what I mean by empathy.
Ahh, yeah, good point.
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Re: 150 arrested in child prostitution sting
« Reply #72 on: August 06, 2013, 06:28:22 am »
Let's not let murderers, rapists, and child molesters make the rest of us worse people.
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