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Because it happened in Wisconsin.  The writer from the Daily Kos seemed to think it was a precursor to worse to come, but the writer comes off as a bit hysterical.
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Oh wow. They stuffed it in a body bag before they killed it. Such big, brave men. (s*)

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You're missing an L and a bracket there, Grapes.

Edit: Reading these articles reminds me of a book I saw in the store about how America's police are becoming more and more akin to military in their tactics and thinking. The problem is, if you're trained to act like an occupying army, you're going to start seeing everyone who lives around you as a potential enemy insurgent. I need to find that book and actually read it, as opposed to just reading the dust jacket.
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I read about this. Walker's Wisconsin in a nutshell....Land Of Fiend & Home Of The Insane. How long until Walker's time is up? Maybe that will be the opportunity the Progressive Wisconsinites will be waiting for.

This is heart-breaking. I hope the shelter sues the tar out of those thugs....or something, anything!

I wonder what those two busybodies who "tipped off" the Teeny Peeny Meanie team?

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I don't think the writer is overly-paranoid at all. This is batshit fucking insane. I hope every single one of the officers gets attacked be deer and killed.
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I'm sorry, but... I fail to see the problem here. Sure, it's sad that they had to kill the fawn. But it's policy. The shelter was illegally housing a wild animal. If they had called ahead, chances are the shelter workers would have tried to hide the fawn, which likely would have gotten them in legal trouble for obstructing the duties of law enforcement officers.

No one was hurt. From the sounds of it, the fawn was killed in as humane a manner as possible. It's sad, sure, but not something to be angry over.

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Umm. I think that a few uniformed officers could have done the job without the SWAT gear. And I don't get it why they had to stuff the animal in the bag before shooting it.
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Umm. I think that a few uniformed officers could have done the job without the SWAT gear. And I don't get it why they had to stuff the animal in the bag before shooting it.
And they didn't have to herd up the staff and take one's phone and delete the pictures they were taking.
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Umm. I think that a few uniformed officers could have done the job without the SWAT gear. And I don't get it why they had to stuff the animal in the bag before shooting it.
And they didn't have to herd up the staff and take one's phone and delete the pictures they were taking.

These, I think, are the big issues. The police acted like the staff were running a meth lab and going to open up on them with machine guns. If they had called ahead, I'm pretty sure they could have helped the staff arrange to transport the deer to a facility that could legally care for it; failing that, they could have at least taken the deer elsewhere to be put down, rather than doing it where the staff could see. Additionally, taking the phone and deleting the pictures stinks of "secret police" tactics; if everything was really on the up and up, they should have had no problem with it being recorded.
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Oh the big, tough SWAT Agents must be so proud of themselves, killing a single baby deer./sarcasm

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I say fire them, AND their pussy of a boss. May a herd of deer run them through with their horns. You don't do that shit unless there's a damn good reason. And somehow, I don't think sheltering a baby deer is a very good reason.


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Okay, seriously... did any of you even fucking read the article? The fawn was tranquilized at the scene, and removed to be euthanized elsewhere.

Why the hell are none of you upset that the shelter took in a baby deer, which they had no training or legal ability to do, and kept it for two weeks instead of immediately turning it over to a facility with the training and resources to handle wild deer?

I mean, you're acting shocked that the police treated a facility full of criminals like a facility full of criminals. Because, you know, they were kind of committing a crime. Which makes them criminals. The fact they're not being charged or fined shows admirable restraint and respect for the fact that the people at the shelter believed they were doing a good thing. It doesn't change the fact they were breaking the law, and endangering both their own lives and the life of the fawn by trying to take care of an animal they were not trained or licensed to care for.

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Because it's easier to be "OH FUCK THE POLICE! LOLOLOL!" then to actually act like rational thinking adults here.

Ironbite-seriously guys...stop.

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The article also says that the setup with the fawn was temporary and the shelter had already arranged for her to go to a licensed facility. We don't know what difficulties they might have had finding and contacting such a facility; I know I wouldn't have a lot of idea where to start looking. I will admit that I overlooked the section that said the fawn was tranquilized there and taken elsewhere to be euthanized.

Legal or not, this raid was an entirely over-the-top reaction. You talk about the police "treating criminals like criminals", but there's a world of difference between people breaking the law while trying to do the right thing (this situation) and something like violent gang activity, which is more along the lines of what I would have expected this raid for. For all the article says, the people at the shelter might not have even known they were committing a crime.

This isn't a simple case of "fuck the police." This is a case of an overblown reaction to a minimal or nonexistent threat.
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This is horrible. There is no question, at least in my mind, that the police went above and beyond their duties here. An innocent animal died because the police couldn't wait for the deer to be sent to a wildlife preserve and decided to justify spending taxpayer money on swat gear.

Sickening.