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Community => Religion and Philosophy => Topic started by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on January 04, 2012, 01:28:22 pm
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Alright, first topic I'm posting here :)
Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association (also in the running for Fundie of the Year here) has officially come out as an AIDS denialist, interviewing the most prominent denier Peter Duesberg, and concluding that HIV does not cause the symptoms attributed to AIDS but rather recreational drug use among gay men.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df15ud2wUe4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHphnJDmOqE
When you think he can't sink any lower, he does.
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He can't sink lower if there was not bottom for him to begin with.
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Oh, AIDs denialists...
I feel that posting this is necessary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dVYJp5dHf8
The woman featured in this documentary is Christine Maggiore, the director's wife. She proudly talks about how she is HIV positive and breast feeds her children without taking precautions to make sure they don't contract the virus.
Her daughter died a year later due to AIDs related pneumonia, and she died another three years later of the virus.
Of course, that didn't stop ANOTHER documentary from featuring her...a few months after she died of AIDs.
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The woman featured in this documentary is Christine Maggiore, the director's wife. She proudly talks about how she is HIV positive and breast feeds her children without taking precautions to make sure they don't contract the virus.
Her daughter died a year later due to AIDs related pneumonia, and she died another three years later of the virus.
Why was she not arrested for negligence for giving her kids AIDS?
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The woman featured in this documentary is Christine Maggiore, the director's wife. She proudly talks about how she is HIV positive and breast feeds her children without taking precautions to make sure they don't contract the virus.
WTF? WTF? WTF? [Error: logic curcuit overload. DOES NOT COMUTE! DOES NOT COMPUTE!]
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Wow really? You're gonna deny AIDS exist really? That's just sad.
Ironbite-and very very dangerous thinking.
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The woman featured in this documentary is Christine Maggiore, the director's wife. She proudly talks about how she is HIV positive and breast feeds her children without taking precautions to make sure they don't contract the virus.
Her daughter died a year later due to AIDs related pneumonia, and she died another three years later of the virus.
Why was she not arrested for negligence for giving her kids AIDS?
Being dead kind of confers immunity.
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this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Maggiore#Legal_ramifications) is what happened.
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this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Maggiore#Legal_ramifications) is what happened.
Astounding. The HIV/AIDS denialists insisted it was not their bullshit that killed Christine, but another group's bullshit--holistic medicines. Sadder than it is funny though.
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I don’t know why AIDS denialism boggles me so. It’s not any different from any other pseudoscientific woo.
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I'm not sure if I'm more stunned over the revelation that he believes this shit, or the fact that he has a radio program as a platform for his bullshit.
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I'm not sure if I'm more stunned over the revelation that he believes this shit, or the fact that he has a radio program as a platform for his bullshit.
In addition IIRC he got the endorsement of one of the major "family" groups. The (very thin) silver lining is that in doing so they earned a spot on the Southern Poverty Law Center's hate group list.
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And I suppose it's just a coincidence that every single AIDS patient tests positive for HIV?
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And I suppose it's just a coincidence that every single AIDS patient tests positive for HIV?
HIV is a sign of SIN which also causes AIDS! </fundie>
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And I suppose it's just a coincidence that every single AIDS patient tests positive for HIV?
No it is a conspiracy!
Some of them believe that AIDS is caused by HIV-medicin, so that covers most of the AIDS cases. It is true that ones who refuse to take medicin (the conspiracy nuts) also die of AIDS but their answer to that is simply claiming that "it wasn't AIDS, it was something else! (Propably all that gay sex he had.)"
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And I suppose it's just a coincidence that every single AIDS patient tests positive for HIV?
No it is a conspiracy!
Some of them believe that AIDS is caused by HIV-medicin, so that covers most of the AIDS cases. It is true that ones who refuse to take medicin (the conspiracy nuts) also die of AIDS but their answer to that is simply claiming that "it wasn't AIDS, it was something else! (Propably all that gay sex he had.)"
Because gay sex is fatal. A woman taking it up the butt from a man is innocuous (if icky and SINFUL!!!), but once you change it to a man's butt it becomes DEADLY.
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This really leaves me wondering what fringe belief he'll endorse next. He's already insulted and mocked Native Americans, black people, women, gays, AIDS patients, Mormons, Muslims, atheists, liberals and victims of house fires. Can he go lower and, if so, where will it lead? Maybe bets should be taken?
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This really leaves me wondering what fringe belief he'll endorse next. He's already insulted and mocked Native Americans, black people, women, gays, AIDS patients, Mormons, Muslims, atheists, liberals and victims of house fires. Can he go lower and, if so, where will it lead? Maybe bets should be taken?
Jews and Hindus and people with autism
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Oh, AIDs denialists...
I feel that posting this is necessary
The woman featured in this documentary is Christine Maggiore, the director's wife. She proudly talks about how she is HIV positive and breast feeds her children without taking precautions to make sure they don't contract the virus.
Her daughter died a year later due to AIDs related pneumonia, and she died another three years later of the virus.
Of course, that didn't stop ANOTHER documentary from featuring her...a few months after she died of AIDs.
WHY...?
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Oh, AIDs denialists...
I feel that posting this is necessary
The woman featured in this documentary is Christine Maggiore, the director's wife. She proudly talks about how she is HIV positive and breast feeds her children without taking precautions to make sure they don't contract the virus.
Her daughter died a year later due to AIDs related pneumonia, and she died another three years later of the virus.
Of course, that didn't stop ANOTHER documentary from featuring her...a few months after she died of AIDs.
WHY...?
Because stupid, that's why.
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Why not the WBC? Oh no. They're all lawyers.
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People who vote. He'll attack democracy.
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This really leaves me wondering what fringe belief he'll endorse next. He's already insulted and mocked Native Americans, black people, women, gays, AIDS patients, Mormons, Muslims, atheists, liberals and victims of house fires. Can he go lower and, if so, where will it lead? Maybe bets should be taken?
He's pretty much reached lower than the WBC - they're universally despised, he still has positions with family groups
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Alright, first topic I'm posting here :)
Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association (also in the running for Fundie of the Year here) has officially come out as an AIDS denialist, interviewing the most prominent denier Peter Duesberg, and concluding that HIV does not cause the symptoms attributed to AIDS but rather recreational drug use among gay men.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df15ud2wUe4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHphnJDmOqE
When you think he can't sink any lower, he does.
(http://cafewitteveen.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/63031_1485605577335_1149750185_32371760_7271009_n.jpg)
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And I suppose it's just a coincidence that every single AIDS patient tests positive for HIV?
No it is a conspiracy!
Some of them believe that AIDS is caused by HIV-medicin, so that covers most of the AIDS cases. It is true that ones who refuse to take medicin (the conspiracy nuts) also die of AIDS but their answer to that is simply claiming that "it wasn't AIDS, it was something else! (Propably all that gay sex he had.)"
Because gay sex is fatal. A woman taking it up the butt from a man is innocuous (if icky and SINFUL!!!), but once you change it to a man's butt it becomes DEADLY.
It makes you wonder how they explain women in committed relationships with other women. The group who has the lowest STD rate and nearly non-existent rates of HIV/AIDS.
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Don't these fucking morons understand that scientists can SEE the HIV/AIDS virus under a powerful microscope?! How can you SEE something that isn't there?!
Wait, NVM. I forgot, we have dinosaur fossils too, but they still think the earth is only 6000 years old...
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Don't these fucking morons understand that scientists can SEE the HIV/AIDS virus under a powerful microscope?! How can you SEE something that isn't there?!
Wait, NVM. I forgot, we have dinosaur fossils too, but they still think the earth is only 6000 years old...
They don't deny the existence of the virus, they just say HIV doesn't cause AIDS.
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Don't these fucking morons understand that scientists can SEE the HIV/AIDS virus under a powerful microscope?! How can you SEE something that isn't there?!
Wait, NVM. I forgot, we have dinosaur fossils too, but they still think the earth is only 6000 years old...
They don't deny the existence of the virus, they just say HIV doesn't cause AIDS.
I'm almost, but not quite, curious enough to wonder what they make of antiretrovirals actually having an effect on people diagnosed with AIDS.
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According to Wikipedia:
Early denialist arguments held that the HIV/AIDS paradigm was flawed because it had not led to effective treatments. However, the introduction of highly active antiretroviral therapy in the mid-1990s and dramatic improvements in survival of HIV/AIDS patients reversed this argument, as these treatments were based directly on the HIV/AIDS paradigm. The development of effective anti-HIV therapy has been a major factor in convincing some denialist scientists to accept the causative role of HIV in AIDS.
Those that cling to it seem to just be in denial.
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I understand that some people cling to this denialism because AIDS just has to be a punishment for gay sex. But for everyone else, I do not see what is so fucking important that they cling to it so much.
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So the poppers did it huh
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And I suppose it's just a coincidence that every single AIDS patient tests positive for HIV?
No it is a conspiracy!
Some of them believe that AIDS is caused by HIV-medicin, so that covers most of the AIDS cases. It is true that ones who refuse to take medicin (the conspiracy nuts) also die of AIDS but their answer to that is simply claiming that "it wasn't AIDS, it was something else! (Propably all that gay sex he had.)"
Because gay sex is fatal. A woman taking it up the butt from a man is innocuous (if icky and SINFUL!!!), but once you change it to a man's butt it becomes DEADLY.
The way you say this makes it sound like a gay man's ass is a weapon of mass destruction.
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Oh, but it is! Didn’t you know that?
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And a gay man's penis is a weapon of ass destruction.
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Oooh! Punny!
(http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/4/23/129165187334369262.jpg)
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I always wanted tibia comedian.
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I always wanted tibia comedian.
I will kill you after I stop laughing from that horrible pun XD