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Re: Catholic Bishop: Children want to be molested
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2012, 08:37:43 pm »
Yes, doubtless being forced to live your life in denial of your sexual needs could lead to any number of psychological problems. BUT!! People do not just 'become' pedophiles or rapists because they're not allowed to get laid--not if there isn't some preexisting mental problem at work, which could manifest or not manifest regardless of the person's living circumstances.

I was under the impression that most members of the clergy just screwed each other anyway, vows be damned, and pretended to celibacy in their public life.

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Re: Catholic Bishop: Children want to be molested
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2012, 08:53:01 pm »
I'm not well-acquainted enough with any of the other social aspects of the Catholic church--I can argue their dogma and their compulsive protecting of child molesters all day, but I don't really read much else about what goes on on the hush-hush in the church. So I can't really say whether or not there's a lot of surreptitious clergy-boinking going on.

I will say that it wouldn't surprise me. I'm sure a lot of the priests and monks and nuns and whoever else in the church are perfectly capable of the requisite self-control to live a completely celibate life--or have at least been brainwashed sufficiently into thinking sex is too evil to attempt--but not everybody can do that. Religious people are no different. I've heard second- and third-hand stories of women having affairs with priests and such, but I can't substantiate those so I won;t put them forward as evidence. If this kind of thing DOES happen routinely, I still expect it's something the male clergy members do but not the nuns--simply because there's less risk. A priest isn't going to get pregnant himself, and if they impregnate someone else the shame of unwed pregnancy AND fucking a priest is probably powerful enough to keep the impregnated girls and women largely quiet on the resulting baby's paternity. Nuns, however, CAN get pregnant and they wouldn't be able to shift the blame or hide this fact, so I wouldn't think they would be willing to take a risk like that, especially considering how vehemently they argue against any kind of birth control.

But like I said, i don;t know for sure so I'm not the person to ask.
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Re: Catholic Bishop: Children want to be molested
« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2012, 09:04:05 pm »
So what you're arguing Cait is that most nuns turn to lesbianism to fulfill their sexual needs.

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Re: Catholic Bishop: Children want to be molested
« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2012, 09:15:08 pm »
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Re: Catholic Bishop: Children want to be molested
« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2012, 09:26:09 pm »
Fuck the Catholic Bishops. Instead of dealing with the problems, all they do is victim-blaming.
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Re: Catholic Bishop: Children want to be molested
« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2012, 09:37:21 pm »
No, sadly, most don't do anything as harmless as breaking their vows with consensual sex.  Instead, most sublimate their desires into a froth of fanaticism and martyrship, making them feel both more righteous for overcoming their feelings and absolutely wretched for having those feelings in the first place.  This is not conducive toward good mental health.
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Re: Catholic Bishop: Children want to be molested
« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2012, 10:47:37 pm »
...Seriously? What is this I don't even.
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Re: Catholic Bishop: Children want to be molested
« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2012, 11:03:27 pm »
I don't usually see this unless a defense attorney or rapist is REALLY grasping at straws. To see this from a bishop only tells me the RCC has gotten desperate.


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Re: Catholic Bishop: Children want to be molested
« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2012, 11:08:55 pm »
Wow. They're just not even trying to hide it any more.

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Re: Catholic Bishop: Children want to be molested
« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2012, 11:10:40 pm »
inb4 some disgusting example of Rule 34
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Re: Catholic Bishop: Children want to be molested
« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2012, 02:38:52 am »
This guy better be fired soon/immediately.
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Re: Catholic Bishop: Children want to be molested
« Reply #41 on: January 25, 2012, 03:32:37 am »
This guy better be fired soon/immediately.

If by "fired" you mean "burned at the stake in St. Peter's Square" then I agree.
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Re: Catholic Bishop: Children want to be molested
« Reply #42 on: January 25, 2012, 03:36:33 am »
This guy better be fired soon/immediately.

not a chance unfortunately, they'll just keep doing the same old bullshit they always do, protecting people like this.
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Re: Catholic Bishop: Children want to be molested
« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2012, 08:58:38 am »
I will say that it wouldn't surprise me. I'm sure a lot of the priests and monks and nuns and whoever else in the church are perfectly capable of the requisite self-control to live a completely celibate life--or have at least been brainwashed sufficiently into thinking sex is too evil to attempt--but not everybody can do that.

The thing is, which I learned the hard way, is that self control only gets you so far. The celibate nature of the church would be a beacon of hope towards someone who has feelings of pedophilia. In our society certain feelings are stigmatized to such a degree that people afflicted by them overcompensate to deal with them rather than face the truth. Examples include people who are violently apposed to homosexuality, but inevitably get caught with a male escort. Similarly most transsexuals attempt to live ultra masculine lives to compensate for their feelings, but that inevitably falls apart too.

For a pedophile, such compensations are not easy to come by, but the lure of religion praying the feeling away along with the celibate lifestyle to keep them from harming someone would be a ray of hope for a good intentioned pedophile. The church would help him to fight his sinful urges and that is attractive to many people faced with such things. Unfortunately we are all human and repressing and suppressing oneself cannot last forever through self control alone.

Regarding the original topic though, its so absurd that its scary. I feel that pedophiles need help more than they need prison time, but I get the feeling that a lot of child molestation that happens in the churches does not come from actual pedophiles.

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Re: Catholic Bishop: Children want to be molested
« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2012, 09:10:12 am »
This guy better be fired soon/immediately.

If by "fired" you mean "burned at the stake in St. Peter's Square" then I agree.

Fired would be a good step, or at the very least strip of title and made to recant. 

Burning at the stake maybe a slight be overboard.  You know that whole WWJD thing.
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