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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #480 on: March 17, 2012, 02:34:47 pm »
All I know is the only reason Bush hasn't been charged with shit is, well, you know, you can't hold an American President responsible for jack squat! Unless they're a black, Kenyan, Socialist Muslim, of course.
Another reason is that the US still isn't big on the idea of international law and justice and hasn't joined the ICC.
That said, I've stopped trying to anticipate what people around here want a while ago, I've found it makes things smoother.
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« Reply #481 on: March 17, 2012, 04:44:05 pm »
All I know is the only reason Bush hasn't been charged with shit is, well, you know, you can't hold an American President responsible for jack squat! Unless they're a black, Kenyan, Socialist Muslim, of course.
Another reason is that the US still isn't big on the idea of international law and justice and hasn't joined the ICC.
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« Reply #482 on: March 17, 2012, 07:52:32 pm »
I'd be more sympathetic if people here didn't act like they knew what they were saying when they were saying something very much wrong.

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« Reply #483 on: March 17, 2012, 08:02:56 pm »
451 is quite a dumb, derivative book. Not sure why popular.
Not sure what's derivative about it, but I found it straight and to the point, and a good read for an afternoon. Not sure why...

The writing is dumb. The idea isn't all that. The characters are shallow and the females ones aren't even that. The conclusion is nothing. The plot doesn't happen. It's only a book in that a book is two covers with word-covered paper in the middle.

It's 1984 if Orwell was shit. '84 is the best of these dystopians, actually- it's significantly better than Brave New World, which is definitely okayish.
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« Reply #484 on: March 17, 2012, 08:18:52 pm »
451 is quite a dumb, derivative book. Not sure why popular.
Not sure what's derivative about it, but I found it straight and to the point, and a good read for an afternoon. Not sure why...

The writing is dumb. The idea isn't all that. The characters are shallow and the females ones aren't even that. The conclusion is nothing. The plot doesn't happen. It's only a book in that a book is two covers with word-covered paper in the middle.

It's 1984 if Orwell was shit. '84 is the best of these dystopians, actually- it's significantly better than Brave New World, which is definitely okayish.
I'm not in the mood to get into a long debate about it, but I'll say this.

- I find the characters to be strong enough on their own. The female roles, sadly, are held by a majority of the supporting roles to show what a pleasure only seeking world would be like.

- The conclusion is idots using a fake war to keep people in check, and that causes a real war. So the survivors get to start over. Death of free-tought is self-destruction is the "moral".

- Protagonist is indoctrinated. Protagonist reads, rebels, is in conflict with society, hides, is passive-aggressive, gets lucky as society self-destructs. That's called a plot.

There is so much poorly written garbage in the world, and I am shocked at how many times Bradbury gets lumped in with it. He writes about simple ideas, sure, but his characters have motivation, conflict, resolution, and his text is legible. That hardly qualifies as shit.

I hate, hate, HATE Lord of the Flies, but I wouldn't call it shit. I'd call it a waste of my personal time, but its plot, intent, and writing is clear, so I can't call it shit. Will, won't I suppose.

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« Reply #485 on: March 17, 2012, 08:39:09 pm »
Totally not understanding all this Bradbury and Lord of the Flies hate.
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« Reply #486 on: March 17, 2012, 08:42:01 pm »
Haven't read the Flies so can't comment. The movie is okay, I guess.
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« Reply #487 on: March 17, 2012, 08:48:49 pm »
Haven't read the Flies so can't comment. The movie is okay, I guess.

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« Reply #488 on: March 17, 2012, 08:54:05 pm »
Totally not understanding all this Bradbury and Lord of the Flies hate.
It's called I'm shocked that Fred is using potty language when stating his birth-given right to have an opinion.

Lord of the Flies irritates me for surprisingly similar reasons to Fred hating 451, in regards to delivering its "message." Also, like Fred, I prefer another book that handles the evil of man - Heart of Darkness. Apocalypse Now works about as well.

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« Reply #489 on: March 17, 2012, 08:58:46 pm »
Haven't read the Flies so can't comment. The movie is okay, I guess.

Which one?

The older one. Must have been the '63 version.
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #490 on: March 17, 2012, 09:08:59 pm »
I didn't realise there'd been a new version made.

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« Reply #491 on: March 17, 2012, 09:36:00 pm »
I didn't realise there'd been a new version made.

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« Reply #493 on: March 17, 2012, 11:35:43 pm »

Festive AND accurate!

For the record, I thought the films resonated better with me. Mind you, I've only seen like half of the 60s version.

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