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Title: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 04, 2012, 02:43:02 am
For the better protest signs out there.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on January 04, 2012, 11:00:40 pm
(http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/12/16/d02cb401-defe-4cff-a822-ccb76e937677.jpg) (http://cheezburger.com/View/5573089024)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on January 05, 2012, 07:16:36 pm
A passerby at a Tea Party rally:
(http://motherjones.com/files/imagecache/node-gallery-display/photoessays/brownestthing.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on January 07, 2012, 01:28:46 am
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvu75l41xF1qa5dzmo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on January 07, 2012, 02:09:22 am
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvu75l41xF1qa5dzmo1_500.jpg)

My grandmother is like this woman. She is pro-life because she believes that fetuses are people that have value, but she also believes that forcing a woman to give birth would completely remove the point of valuing the child's life. If she didn't have a choice anyway, then the act of giving birth instead of having an abortion becomes meaningless.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Da Rat Bastid on January 07, 2012, 04:39:47 am
Bonus points for the woman holding the sign being visibly pregnant herself. :)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on January 08, 2012, 09:37:09 pm
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/409053_356737081019022_122256581133741_1431527_1392565366_n.jpg)

Also, he's hot. Just putting that out there.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DiscoBerry on January 09, 2012, 11:15:36 am
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/409053_356737081019022_122256581133741_1431527_1392565366_n.jpg)

Also, he's hot. Just putting that out there.

I am wondering how many thousands of people that would marry their daughter off to him to save his soul. 
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheL on January 09, 2012, 09:56:14 pm
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/409053_356737081019022_122256581133741_1431527_1392565366_n.jpg)

Also, he's hot. Just putting that out there.

He is indeed. :)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on January 10, 2012, 09:03:07 am
Gotta admit, that boy's cute.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Da Rat Bastid on January 10, 2012, 09:10:10 am
Gotta admit, that boy's cute.

Damn right, he is. :)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on January 15, 2012, 02:34:39 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxt5qfDtC01r4wgdzo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on January 15, 2012, 03:34:13 am
the one in the foreground's good, but the one in the back... is that a guy pointing out the debacle and bullshit of the Scopes monkey trial?  Props to that dude!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rosenewock21 on January 15, 2012, 06:06:36 am
the one in the foreground's good, but the one in the back... is that a guy pointing out the debacle and bullshit of the Scopes monkey trial?  Props to that dude!

It does indeed appear to be. Good show all around!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheL on January 15, 2012, 08:41:41 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxt5qfDtC01r4wgdzo1_500.jpg)

Is that the "How Is Babby Formed" cavemen in the poster to the right? :D WIN.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on January 15, 2012, 03:38:13 pm
the one in the foreground's good, but the one in the back... is that a guy pointing out the debacle and bullshit of the Scopes monkey trial?  Props to that dude!
No, it looks like it is these guys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll-lia-FEIY
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 16, 2012, 05:00:46 am
This one isn't so much 'awesome' as 'well thought out' and 'heart-wrenching':
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsgu401pdX1qc0hba.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rosenewock21 on January 16, 2012, 05:17:43 am
*sniffles* 'Scuse me, I think I may have gotten a piece of dust in my eye.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on January 16, 2012, 05:31:35 am
Shane...

That picture was sad enough already then I remembered that atleast one judge (Might have been in Spain but I'm not sure.) has declared that a rapist cannot remove a woman's jeans forcefully, therefore anyone wearing jeans must have willingly helped the rapist. There really are people who say that a woman wearing jeans cannot be raped and therefore there are people who would say that she "asked for it."

And now I'm gonna go throw up...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 16, 2012, 05:36:16 am
Now you've made me even more depressed and wanting to throw up.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on January 16, 2012, 05:50:13 am
Now you've made me even more depressed and wanting to throw up.

Sorry.

In related news: I found it

http://current.com/154fe4c (http://current.com/154fe4c)

Turns out it was an Italian judge.  :'(
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on January 16, 2012, 06:19:41 am
Shane...

That picture was sad enough already then I remembered that atleast one judge (Might have been in Spain but I'm not sure.) has declared that a rapist cannot remove a woman's jeans forcefully, therefore anyone wearing jeans must have willingly helped the rapist. There really are people who say that a woman wearing jeans cannot be raped and therefore there are people who would say that she "asked for it."

And now I'm gonna go throw up...

Cause, you know, coercion doesn't happen.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sylvana on January 16, 2012, 08:19:48 am
Why do people seem to think that rape only happens in dark alleyways and by yanking the clothing of some random woman? Most rape victims know their rapists and can be coerced into submission through violence or clear threats there of. For a judge not to know that, makes me cry for the Italian justice system.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 16, 2012, 08:24:10 am
Also, getting someone else's pants off isn't that hard. Not as hard as people would like to make it seem. If I can do it with a child fighting me to get them changed into bedtime clothes then I could get them off on someone even less willing or even less capable of fighting me off.

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: largeham on January 16, 2012, 10:00:45 am
I just got back from India where a whole lot of judges and politicians are jumping on the slut-shaming/rape-victim blaming bandwagon.
 It's disgusting, but it seems many people (and some of the major newspapers)* are are also horrified by such views.

* I can't be sure, I didn't really go out and ask a lot of people about the issue
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Smilodon on January 16, 2012, 11:02:03 am
There was one picture of an old lady at (I think) an OWS protest with a sign that heckled Fox News. I can't find the picture unfortunately.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Meshakhad on January 16, 2012, 01:44:15 pm
This one isn't so much 'awesome' as 'well thought out' and 'heart-wrenching':
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsgu401pdX1qc0hba.jpg)

*sniff*

We must find this girl, so we can send her internet hugz.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on January 16, 2012, 01:50:06 pm
Shane...

That picture was sad enough already then I remembered that atleast one judge (Might have been in Spain but I'm not sure.) has declared that a rapist cannot remove a woman's jeans forcefully, therefore anyone wearing jeans must have willingly helped the rapist. There really are people who say that a woman wearing jeans cannot be raped and therefore there are people who would say that she "asked for it."

And now I'm gonna go throw up...

Do weapons and date rape drugs not exist in Europe?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on January 16, 2012, 02:21:27 pm
Now you've made me even more depressed and wanting to throw up.

Sorry.

In related news: I found it

http://current.com/154fe4c (http://current.com/154fe4c)

Turns out it was an Italian judge.  :'(

Fuck Italy.  Fuck them so hard.

I mean, between the Mafia, the Pope, and this, they suck.  The only remotely redeeming thing about them is their cuisine.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Canadian Mojo on January 16, 2012, 03:16:58 pm
Now you've made me even more depressed and wanting to throw up.

Sorry.

In related news: I found it

http://current.com/154fe4c (http://current.com/154fe4c)

Turns out it was an Italian judge.  :'(

Fuck Italy.  Fuck them so hard.

I mean, between the Mafia, the Pope, and this, they suck.  The only remotely redeeming thing about them is their cuisine.
You forgot their sports cars and their motorcycles.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on January 16, 2012, 03:19:07 pm
Shane...

That picture was sad enough already then I remembered that atleast one judge (Might have been in Spain but I'm not sure.) has declared that a rapist cannot remove a woman's jeans forcefully, therefore anyone wearing jeans must have willingly helped the rapist. There really are people who say that a woman wearing jeans cannot be raped and therefore there are people who would say that she "asked for it."

And now I'm gonna go throw up...

Do weapons and date rape drugs not exist in Europe?

Of course not, thanks to the magic of gun control! :D

Also, if pulling pants down is so hard, then how did I manage to pantse so many kids and get away with it?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Da Rat Bastid on January 16, 2012, 07:52:57 pm
Now you've made me even more depressed and wanting to throw up.

Sorry.

In related news: I found it

http://current.com/154fe4c (http://current.com/154fe4c)

Turns out it was an Italian judge.  :'(

Fuck Italy.  Fuck them so hard.

I mean, between the Mafia, the Pope, and this, they suck.  The only remotely redeeming thing about them is their cuisine.
You forgot their sports cars and their motorcycles.

And the wine.  Mustn't forget the almighty grape. :)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Caitshidhe on January 16, 2012, 08:52:45 pm
It's worth pointing out that L and Ranger Joe are both Italian. So there's SOME good stuff hailing from the country. Just... not that, or the Pope, or their driving habits. (PROTIP, ITALIAN DRIVERS: automobiles do not technically legally have the right of way on the pavement.)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on January 16, 2012, 09:07:17 pm
It's worth pointing out that L and Ranger Joe are both Italian. So there's SOME good stuff hailing from the country. Just... not that, or the Pope, or their driving habits. (PROTIP, ITALIAN DRIVERS: automobiles do not technically legally have the right of way on the pavement.)

Fair enough.  Really though.  I kinda hate that judge.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Damen on January 16, 2012, 11:38:20 pm
It's worth pointing out that L and Ranger Joe are both Italian. So there's SOME good stuff hailing from the country. Just... not that, or the Pope, or their driving habits. (PROTIP, ITALIAN DRIVERS: automobiles do not technically legally have the right of way on the pavement.)

Don't forget, you're also Italian so that's another bonus for Italy.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on January 16, 2012, 11:50:21 pm
This one isn't so much 'awesome' as 'well thought out' and 'heart-wrenching':
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsgu401pdX1qc0hba.jpg)

Oh man look at that slut.  Her elbows are showing.  Of course the slut was-*throws up*

Ironbite-NOBODY ASKS TO BE RAPED YOU FUCKERS!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheL on January 17, 2012, 08:12:15 am
It's worth pointing out that L and Ranger Joe are both Italian. So there's SOME good stuff hailing from the country. Just... not that, or the Pope, or their driving habits. (PROTIP, ITALIAN DRIVERS: automobiles do not technically legally have the right of way on the pavement.)

Don't forget, you're also Italian so that's another bonus for Italy.

She's Sicilian.  Doesn't count.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: lighthorseman on January 17, 2012, 09:27:23 am
Minor nitpick; the pope isn't in Italy, nor is the incumbent or his predecesor Italian.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on January 17, 2012, 09:40:15 am
Shane...

That picture was sad enough already then I remembered that atleast one judge (Might have been in Spain but I'm not sure.) has declared that a rapist cannot remove a woman's jeans forcefully, therefore anyone wearing jeans must have willingly helped the rapist. There really are people who say that a woman wearing jeans cannot be raped and therefore there are people who would say that she "asked for it."

And now I'm gonna go throw up...

Do weapons and date rape drugs not exist in Europe?

Of course not, thanks to the magic of gun control! :D

Also, if pulling pants down is so hard, then how did I manage to pantse so many kids and get away with it?
Uuuummmmm… Something about how little kids don’t have the hips that grown women are supposed to have. :P
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on January 17, 2012, 09:40:33 am
Rome IS in Italy, yes? therefore, Italy sucks... most of it, anyway.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: largeham on January 17, 2012, 09:51:26 am
He means that the Pope resides in the Vatican City which is an independent country within Rome. Mussolini gave it to the Pope, before then it belonged to Italy.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Canadian Mojo on January 17, 2012, 02:23:40 pm
She's Sicilian.

And you never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line.




Why does my brain constantly do this to me?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Iczerfour on January 17, 2012, 02:33:41 pm

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x466/TailsKitsune/1356687305_960a0196eb_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on January 17, 2012, 02:37:07 pm
When was that taken?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Da Rat Bastid on January 17, 2012, 02:38:08 pm
She has an outie! :D
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Iczerfour on January 17, 2012, 02:38:21 pm
I have no idea
and yes she has a cute outie
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: lighthorseman on January 18, 2012, 01:01:44 am
Rome IS in Italy, yes? therefore, Italy sucks... most of it, anyway.
Rome may well be in Italy, but the Pope lives in Vatican City, not Rome.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on January 18, 2012, 02:14:59 pm
Which is also in Italy, although it is a different country. With like a population of 8.

Well, 800, but still puny.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on January 18, 2012, 02:38:46 pm
Which is also in Italy, although it is a different country. With like a population of 8.

Well, 800, but still puny.

Vatican is surrounded by Italy, that is not the same as being inside Italy.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 18, 2012, 05:45:26 pm
Don't mean it doesn't stick its dick into Italian politics every chance it gets...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: lighthorseman on January 19, 2012, 09:26:01 am
Don't mean it doesn't stick its dick into Italian politics every chance it gets...
It might well, but it still isn't Italy.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on January 19, 2012, 08:17:42 pm
It sticks its dick into the politics of virtually every nation in the world. The Italians listen to them roughly as often as any other Catholic-majority country.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Damen on January 22, 2012, 07:21:28 am
I was reading this (http://www.fogcityjournal.com/wordpress/3329/occupy-wall-street-west-ends-hibernation-in-quest-to-right-america/) and it's ripe with awesome protest stuff.

[link] (http://www.fogcityjournal.com/images/photos2012/occupy_wall_st_west_20120120/mw2w5008_std.jpg)

I think Smurfette has a sister.

[link] (http://www.fogcityjournal.com/images/photos2012/occupy_wall_st_west_20120120/mw2w5281_std.jpg)

These were from an Occupy San Francisco protest that ended up shutting down a Wells Fargo bank for a while.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 22, 2012, 03:55:36 pm
I was reading this (http://www.fogcityjournal.com/wordpress/3329/occupy-wall-street-west-ends-hibernation-in-quest-to-right-america/) and it's ripe with awesome protest stuff.

(http://www.fogcityjournal.com/images/photos2012/occupy_wall_st_west_20120120/mw2w5008_std.jpg)

I think Smurfette has a sister.

(http://www.fogcityjournal.com/images/photos2012/occupy_wall_st_west_20120120/mw2w5281_std.jpg)

These were from an Occupy San Francisco protest that ended up shutting down a Wells Fargo bank for a while.

I don't think those images allow direct linking...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Damen on January 23, 2012, 08:42:21 am
I was reading this (http://www.fogcityjournal.com/wordpress/3329/occupy-wall-street-west-ends-hibernation-in-quest-to-right-america/) and it's ripe with awesome protest stuff.

(http://www.fogcityjournal.com/images/photos2012/occupy_wall_st_west_20120120/mw2w5008_std.jpg)

I think Smurfette has a sister.

(http://www.fogcityjournal.com/images/photos2012/occupy_wall_st_west_20120120/mw2w5281_std.jpg)

These were from an Occupy San Francisco protest that ended up shutting down a Wells Fargo bank for a while.

I don't think those images allow direct linking...

Edited to allow clickable viewing.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Bezron on January 23, 2012, 10:29:38 am
I was reading this (http://www.fogcityjournal.com/wordpress/3329/occupy-wall-street-west-ends-hibernation-in-quest-to-right-america/) and it's ripe with awesome protest stuff.

(http://www.fogcityjournal.com/images/photos2012/occupy_wall_st_west_20120120/mw2w5008_std.jpg)

I think Smurfette has a sister.

(http://www.fogcityjournal.com/images/photos2012/occupy_wall_st_west_20120120/mw2w5281_std.jpg)

These were from an Occupy San Francisco protest that ended up shutting down a Wells Fargo bank for a while.

I don't think those images allow direct linking...

Edited to allow clickable viewing.


Forbidden!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on January 29, 2012, 09:48:41 pm
Protest Tag:

(http://hackedirl.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/epic-win-photos-hacked-irl-same-difference1.jpg) (http://wins.failblog.org/2012/01/25/epic-win-photos-hacked-irl-same-difference/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+HackedIrl+%28Wins%21%29)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Eniliad on January 30, 2012, 12:37:33 am
That one took me a moment, but I love it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on January 30, 2012, 08:42:15 am
That one took me a moment, but I love it.
Yeah, the letters are big enough that it takes a bit of conscious effort to think about what it says after crossing the “AL” out. Translation: took me a moment as well.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Da Rat Bastid on February 02, 2012, 02:48:10 am
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/242/507/209.jpeg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on February 02, 2012, 02:55:20 am
Hey Rat? you owe me a Pepsi, because I just did a spit-take laughing.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 03, 2012, 03:57:58 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyqst8vRve1ro0tkjo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on February 03, 2012, 05:37:19 pm
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/409335_185365988232280_141298119305734_248167_1465388198_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on February 03, 2012, 05:40:25 pm
They're #3 after the gays and atheists.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Meshakhad on February 03, 2012, 06:15:05 pm
They're #3 after the gays and atheists.

What about the bears?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on February 03, 2012, 06:15:41 pm
They fall into the category of gays methinks.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Da Rat Bastid on February 03, 2012, 06:37:09 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyqst8vRve1ro0tkjo1_500.png)

Is that woman meant to be seen as fat?  The poster seems to be implying so (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HollywoodPudgy), but I don't see her that way. ???
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on February 03, 2012, 06:42:24 pm
I think it was more "Even though my weight is healthy, I stand up for people who are bullied for not being 'attractive'"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 04, 2012, 08:53:32 am
(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvr17eTQQc1qa7x10o1_500.jpg)

:(
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Vypernight on February 04, 2012, 08:59:26 am
I hate that crap!  People come in all shapes and sizes, but when they try to dramatically alter those, they seem to only make things worse, especially when its a child.

It's one thing if the weight is extreme (bones showing or the person can't fit through a doorway); it's another when you have people like the girl in the picture.  Just let the kids grow up! 
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheL on February 04, 2012, 09:47:25 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyqst8vRve1ro0tkjo1_500.png)

Is that woman meant to be seen as fat?  The poster seems to be implying so (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HollywoodPudgy), but I don't see her that way. ???

What?  She's skinny as fuck!  I want a tummy like hers. :(
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SimSim on February 04, 2012, 10:16:05 am
I think the point of the poster is that people shouldn't be teased or made fun of about their body. So long as a person isn't at an unhealthy weight why should it matter?

As a person who was rail thin in my teens and early twenties, I can tell you that people get crap for being skinny too. "Jokes" about eating a cheeseburger are just as offensive as "jokes" about not eating a cheeseburger.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 04, 2012, 10:32:05 am
Or she could be the weight equivalent of a straight ally.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on February 04, 2012, 01:31:56 pm
Or she could be the weight equivalent of a straight ally.

I interpreted it this way, too.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 04, 2012, 04:46:48 pm
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpf3gjzfnT1qanje6o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on February 05, 2012, 12:50:57 pm
Or she could be the weight equivalent of a straight ally.
May be what is intended, but it is hard to read that for sure. Especially given the aforementioned existence of “Hollywood Chubby.” On TV, she probably would be considered fat.  >:(
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: VirtualStranger on February 05, 2012, 01:24:28 pm
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpf3gjzfnT1qanje6o1_500.jpg)

"Voilence?"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on February 05, 2012, 03:49:07 pm
(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/slutwalksigns/16352141254/1/tumblr_ly7qpmWK4E1r4l3su)

(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwg3w1DHLK1r0yjf0o1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 05, 2012, 04:42:33 pm
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpf3gjzfnT1qanje6o1_500.jpg)

"Voilence?"

Yes. It's the accented version of violence. /jokes
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 05, 2012, 04:55:16 pm
(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/slutwalksigns/16352141254/1/tumblr_ly7qpmWK4E1r4l3su)
I can't read what's on the sign. Can someone transcribe it, please?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on February 05, 2012, 05:03:02 pm
I was 11 years old when the guys shoved me into a school bathroom. They pinned me down so I couldn’t move, and they covered my mouth so I couldn’t scream. Everyone knew what happened, but no one did a thing. Why? I wore a skirt „It” was easily my fault – they said. According to this society I ASKED FOR IT.

NOONE ASKS FOR THESE THINGS TO HAPPEN.
 
This is the society that has been created. This society taught us that it was our fault. We asked for this. We provoke men. Our skirts are too short and our shirts too tight. Apparently, it doesn’t matter if we are 41, 21 or 11.

For 7 years I felt ashamed.
 
 For 7 years I felt dirty.
 
For 7 years I thought this was my fault.

I am no longer ashamed.

I have NEVER been dirty.

I am here to say this was never my fault.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Meshakhad on February 05, 2012, 11:51:05 pm
To anyone who claimed that that girl was asking for it:

*jabs fingers into both eyes*
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on February 06, 2012, 01:14:32 am
She had a vagina, she was asking for it.

Ironbite-COME AT ME BRO AND I'LL SEND YOU BACK TO EGYPT!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: armandtanzarian on February 17, 2012, 10:53:49 pm
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KrXwCKr2vqA/Tz2zgqW_MpI/AAAAAAAAClY/kmcg5ZXM7vA/s1600/IMAG1703.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on February 17, 2012, 11:17:50 pm
I sure as hell wouldn’t spend it on Ramen.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 17, 2012, 11:18:55 pm
I'd buy a 6 new external HDDs.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on February 20, 2012, 05:28:17 pm
The Daily Show is passing this around and telling people NOT  ;) to bring it to Santorum's rally.

(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzphr1woHR1r0ajmso1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 20, 2012, 07:59:43 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzo27wFHWd1rp2yypo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on February 27, 2012, 07:35:44 pm
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/431717_10150585284381275_177486166274_9484712_905548012_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Meshakhad on February 27, 2012, 07:57:42 pm
If and when I get into a sexual relationship with a woman, and we decide to use birth control, I will pay half the costs.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on February 27, 2012, 09:02:14 pm
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzvjspeN5r1qjhg1io1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on February 27, 2012, 10:46:51 pm
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/425797_10150822900054418_501504417_12636657_1617242560_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on February 28, 2012, 11:20:25 pm
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/427432_10150581690711275_177486166274_9467839_805927856_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on February 28, 2012, 11:21:41 pm
Fucking A. Marriage should be about love, not gender.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 28, 2012, 11:44:18 pm
I gay ate a salad.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Eniliad on February 28, 2012, 11:45:40 pm
I gay masturbated.

Oh wait, that works. >_>
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Her3tiK on February 28, 2012, 11:55:03 pm
I gay ate a salad.
But did you toss eat a gay salad?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 28, 2012, 11:56:08 pm
I gay ate a salad.
But did you toss eat a gay salad?

I did not.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on February 29, 2012, 03:10:46 am
I gay walked my dogs.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DiscoBerry on February 29, 2012, 08:51:54 am
I gay ate a salad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM6xVQwIOYQ
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on February 29, 2012, 06:45:44 pm
I went to straight work, but then I went to the gay gas station to fill up my bi car.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on February 29, 2012, 06:51:29 pm
It's a hybrid?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on February 29, 2012, 07:59:50 pm
No. But it is attracted to both gas and electric as well as hybrids.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on February 29, 2012, 10:06:15 pm
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17f0e6ner1vkejpg/xlarge.jpg)
the story behind this win of a protest sign (http://jezebel.com/5889334/oklahoma-senator-pickets-personhood-bill-with-hilarious-obscene-sign)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on February 29, 2012, 10:11:26 pm
THE UNBORN DON'T HAVE RIGHTS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT A FUCKING PERSON!  YOU FUCKING IDIOTS!  DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE!

Ironbite-there is not a universe that contain my rage at phrases like that.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DiscoBerry on March 01, 2012, 07:35:33 am
Oklahoma State Senator Judy Eason McIntyre of Tulsa
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/tumblr_m06hwdiu181qzs6yjo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ranger_Joe on March 01, 2012, 10:54:52 am
I gay walked my dogs.

OH NOES! It's Gay Lawn Mowing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zhXj--JJYw
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on March 04, 2012, 02:58:55 pm
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/423731_373015676055562_153964677960664_1313088_2064476658_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Eniliad on March 04, 2012, 03:20:53 pm
O________O
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 04, 2012, 03:42:07 pm
o.o  That's brutal.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on March 04, 2012, 03:45:09 pm
What did the shirt originally say?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 04, 2012, 05:52:46 pm
What did the shirt originally say?

I wonder this, too.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on March 04, 2012, 11:54:05 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/405442_343996335622020_204904669531188_1132759_855645604_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on March 05, 2012, 04:28:16 pm
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lztod1qKlv1qfgqlxo1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DarkfireTaimatsu on March 05, 2012, 04:55:49 pm
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lztod1qKlv1qfgqlxo1_400.jpg)

I'm not sure what she's protesting, but I really like her outfit.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on March 05, 2012, 05:24:56 pm
I believe it's was from a slutwalk protest.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Da Rat Bastid on March 05, 2012, 05:25:24 pm
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lztod1qKlv1qfgqlxo1_400.jpg)

I'm not sure what she's protesting, but I really like her outfit.

I concur, on both counts.  She's quite cute. :)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on March 05, 2012, 05:27:18 pm
Damn...wonder if she'll let me take her out for coffee to explain herself.

Ironbite-cause damn she's cute.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 05, 2012, 06:52:36 pm
I believe it's protesting being ogled.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Eniliad on March 05, 2012, 07:20:22 pm
I believe it's protesting being ogled.

I'm going to stick my neck out here, for a second... this might be horribly wrong of me, but while I certainly don't think that anyone's "asking for it" when they're wearing slutty clothes, or otherwise revealing outfits, and everyone should have the right to wear whatever they want... what's wrong with looking at people you find attractive?

/me ducks under the inevitable hail.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Juna Starrider on March 05, 2012, 07:29:22 pm
If she is part of the "Slutwalk" protest, it's not about stopping people from ogling, it's to stop society from believing that revealing outfits don't equal  "I want to be raped".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on March 05, 2012, 07:42:59 pm
The male gaze is a thing, though. So there's that.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Smurfette Principle on March 05, 2012, 08:01:58 pm
And it's not just looking. It's a certain type of looking that can't be easily articulated because of male privilege. It's like... looking with the very faint suggestion of rape, I suppose. (GAH, stupid lizard/dog world. (https://sindeloke.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/37/))
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 05, 2012, 08:02:53 pm
I believe it's protesting being ogled.

I'm going to stick my neck out here, for a second... this might be horribly wrong of me, but while I certainly don't think that anyone's "asking for it" when they're wearing slutty clothes, or otherwise revealing outfits, and everyone should have the right to wear whatever they want... what's wrong with looking at people you find attractive?

/me ducks under the inevitable hail.

I give up on being sarcastic to prove a point.

ETA- I'll give a little hint. It's called objectifying and looking entirely past what someone says. By all means, say someone is cute but the sign says to me that 'being through enough' includes being objectified and ogled and on the verge of not being taken seriously because one is cute.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Morgenleoht on March 06, 2012, 02:19:49 am
In Australia, we call it perving. Same thing as ogling, pretty much.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Eniliad on March 06, 2012, 05:13:20 am
Ok, that's a round of hail that could have been avoided had I googled the phrase. I thought ogling was just another word for staring - a synonym. However, the dictionaries define it as "staring with lecherous intent", and lecherous in turn is defined as "excessive or offensive sexual desire". So, there's nothing wrong with looking - so long as you don't give off rape vibes.

Sorry! :-[
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 06, 2012, 12:58:38 pm
S'alright. Glad we cleared it up quickly tho. :)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheL on March 06, 2012, 05:20:34 pm
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lztod1qKlv1qfgqlxo1_400.jpg)

I'm not sure what she's protesting, but I really like her outfit.

Really?  I think it looks like a horrible, exploitative 80's vision of The Hookers Of The Future.

Then again, I have no idea what actual hookers look like outside of the Highlander movie, so that may have something to do with it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 06, 2012, 09:24:11 pm
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0hp43kfOW1r3bzxoo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Damen on March 07, 2012, 01:55:53 am
(http://cdn.moxiebird.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pro-choice-protestors1-525x393.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on March 07, 2012, 06:35:17 pm
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/424619_349356558432324_187311054636876_1129376_2078454012_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on March 07, 2012, 07:28:17 pm
At a recent protest regarding birth control and forced ultrasounds

(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/423802_337382146307507_182564421789281_1017901_1408011560_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on March 07, 2012, 10:04:47 pm
Apparently, the person in that protest several pages back with the pink hair is a boy.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cts=1331175613256&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fslutwalknyc.com%2Fpost%2F10992083819&ei=qiBYT5b9K4iY0QHXlPXCDw&usg=AFQjCNFFG2rsM2HFUha97442BbFQGReFuw
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Eniliad on March 07, 2012, 10:18:16 pm
He's still sooooooooo cuuuuuuute :3

/me gives him ALL the hugs - with consent.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on March 07, 2012, 10:20:27 pm
Was he a victim or was he speaking for someone else?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on March 07, 2012, 10:30:11 pm
The consensus seems to be that he is gay (I also noticed the Asian person in the skirt next to him seems to be a man) so maybe fundies thought the little gay boy in the pink hair was asking for it being so effeminate. Just speculation.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on March 07, 2012, 10:57:26 pm
The consensus seems to be that he is gay (I also noticed the Asian person in the skirt next to him seems to be a man) so maybe fundies thought the little gay boy in the pink hair was asking for it being so effeminate. Just speculation.

Sadly, I've heard that excuse. I've also heard "you should have 'man' up, so you deserved it for being a sissy" as well as "grow some balls" when trying to deal with the trauma of rape. Victim blaming is nasty piece of work. 
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Da Rat Bastid on March 08, 2012, 07:34:33 pm
Apparently, the person in that protest several pages back with the pink hair is a boy.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cts=1331175613256&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fslutwalknyc.com%2Fpost%2F10992083819&ei=qiBYT5b9K4iY0QHXlPXCDw&usg=AFQjCNFFG2rsM2HFUha97442BbFQGReFuw

Wooooow. :o

Apparently, I've had a Bridget dropped on me there (not that I'm complaining *nods at his sig*).  I agree with Eniliad, though.  I thought "she" was cute as hell initially, but I was also saddened because of the sign, and now that I know he's not a she, I still want to hug him for what he'd been through. :(
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 08, 2012, 09:39:40 pm
Y0u people and your gender binaries.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Her3tiK on March 08, 2012, 09:44:41 pm
Apparently, the person in that protest several pages back with the pink hair is a boy.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cts=1331175613256&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fslutwalknyc.com%2Fpost%2F10992083819&ei=qiBYT5b9K4iY0QHXlPXCDw&usg=AFQjCNFFG2rsM2HFUha97442BbFQGReFuw

Wooooow. :o

<snip> I agree with Eniliad, though.  I thought "she" was cute as hell initially, but I was also saddened because of the sign, and now that I know he's not a she, I still want to hug him for what he'd been through. :(
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on March 08, 2012, 09:51:45 pm
Apparently, the person in that protest several pages back with the pink hair is a boy.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cts=1331175613256&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fslutwalknyc.com%2Fpost%2F10992083819&ei=qiBYT5b9K4iY0QHXlPXCDw&usg=AFQjCNFFG2rsM2HFUha97442BbFQGReFuw

He's still really cute, and I wanna give him a big hug because nobody deserves to go through something like rape...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Random Gal on March 08, 2012, 11:27:41 pm
Fine by me; I love androgynous boys. And girls, for that matter.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Smurfette Principle on March 08, 2012, 11:49:21 pm
He's a trans man, apparently. I saw a correction regarding his gender on Tumblr from someone who claimed to be a friend of his.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Eniliad on March 08, 2012, 11:50:08 pm
He's still adorable. :)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 09, 2012, 12:14:31 am
He's a trans man, apparently. I saw a correction regarding his gender on Tumblr from someone who claimed to be a friend of his.

That's what I figured. My transdar went into overdrive. ;)

Either way, I want to hug him and be like big brother Shane.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on March 09, 2012, 10:50:46 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426136_381791561849091_196601040368145_1433867_629075598_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on March 09, 2012, 11:05:51 pm
And that pretty much sums up the whole Occupy movement.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on March 09, 2012, 11:17:36 pm
And that pretty much sums up the whole Occupy movement.
ButI thought it was a bunch of lazy bums looking for a handout. /idiot
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on March 11, 2012, 04:23:23 am
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/7/I/y/3/fox-news-will-lie-sign.jpg)

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DiscoBerry on March 11, 2012, 04:03:23 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/jobs-not-penis.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 11, 2012, 04:40:03 pm
Congratulations, I now have strawberry lemonade crystal lite all over my monitor.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on March 11, 2012, 05:03:39 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/jobs-not-penis.jpg)

I would like to hear the story behind this... I am hoping that it is something better than "I used google-translate for this sign."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DiscoBerry on March 11, 2012, 05:37:57 pm
I was think bad translation of peanuts...maybe?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on March 11, 2012, 05:41:53 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz3hazOrC11qcrvmpo1_400.png)

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on March 11, 2012, 05:54:27 pm
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/417989_402491826444137_224319224261399_1562549_865162683_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on March 11, 2012, 06:25:44 pm
Oh good. So now the Democrats are electing anti-tax conservatives, too. That's definitely the change all those liberals voted for.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on March 11, 2012, 06:29:53 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/jobs-not-penis.jpg)

I would like to hear the story behind this... I am hoping that it is something better than "I used google-translate for this sign."

Was that from the protest in Côte d'Ivoire not too long ago? If it is i can actually see "penis" as effective for the sign.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: VirtualStranger on March 11, 2012, 07:16:13 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/jobs-not-penis.jpg)

I don't get it... Can't you have both?

A bad use of Google Translate, perhaps?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 11, 2012, 08:51:02 pm
Perhaps they mean "stop dicking us over"?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on March 11, 2012, 09:18:48 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/64147_10151367248350533_768460532_23376752_708478449_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on March 12, 2012, 02:44:14 am
he looks like a gay Sheldon Cooper...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on March 12, 2012, 04:10:25 am
he looks like a gay Sheldon Cooper...

You mean to tell me Sheldon's straight?  Well, I guess he does have a GF...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on March 12, 2012, 07:56:12 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/423042_128406320621172_104867519641719_110369_330401919_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Mechtaur on March 13, 2012, 12:48:43 am
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/jobs-not-penis.jpg)

I don't get it... Can't you have both?

A bad use of Google Translate, perhaps?

I'm wanting to say it was supposed to be "pennies".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DiscoBerry on March 13, 2012, 08:23:41 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/423042_128406320621172_104867519641719_110369_330401919_n.jpg)

I am not so sure about that
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Eniliad on March 13, 2012, 03:14:45 pm
...I am.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on March 13, 2012, 03:22:18 pm
I'm a proud voting slut!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on March 13, 2012, 04:55:36 pm
I'm a proud voting slut!

Yeah, guilty here too :3
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Da Rat Bastid on March 13, 2012, 05:07:48 pm
I'm a proud voting slut!

Yeah, guilty here too :3

*raises hand* :D
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on March 13, 2012, 09:45:23 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422134_317817161605934_168879986499653_761047_1117530766_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on March 13, 2012, 09:50:18 pm
Awesome!

Is that in Madison? For some reason, I want to be able to recognize the building in the background. You know, the one that is barely visible.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on March 13, 2012, 10:01:48 pm
I think it is, it's from a recent rally.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on March 13, 2012, 10:07:30 pm
I would guess it is near the capitol, then. Maybe I can figure out what building that is with Street View.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 13, 2012, 11:43:05 pm
Oh come on, that's an insult to prostitutes D:
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on March 15, 2012, 12:27:34 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/37351_408690107721_281168802721_4221143_5742622_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 15, 2012, 04:25:53 pm
Someone, get that image and put it on a T-shirt!  Stat!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 15, 2012, 04:43:32 pm
I'd buy that shirt.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on March 19, 2012, 02:50:31 am
(http://funkydowntown.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/funny-protest-sign-14.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 19, 2012, 02:55:16 am
Image broken
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on March 19, 2012, 01:25:44 pm
I can see it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 19, 2012, 01:53:09 pm
This is what it looks like to me

(http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/8431/brokenimage.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on March 19, 2012, 01:58:16 pm
Here it is:

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1570pO6qb1r33veco1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on March 19, 2012, 04:08:47 pm
He'd lead the Autobots into battle, die, then come back after the kiddies start crying they don't like Rodimus Prime.

Ironbite-the brats.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on March 20, 2012, 09:12:49 pm
(http://cdn.front.moveon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Edison-full-480x302.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 21, 2012, 05:26:54 am
Did these people actually say these quotes?

It seems awfully convenient that these quotes are coming out now.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on March 21, 2012, 07:16:05 am
It’s on Wikiquote (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thomas_Edison), so it must be true! ;)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Podkayne on March 21, 2012, 09:47:47 am
(http://i.imgur.com/J6Cv9.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on March 22, 2012, 04:56:53 pm
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m19jxtQVZa1rsozo7o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 22, 2012, 07:19:44 pm
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m19jxtQVZa1rsozo7o1_500.jpg)

And point to the woman with a deliberate sense of style :D
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Smurfette Principle on March 22, 2012, 07:24:04 pm
I like, though I'd either make both "promiscuous," both "sexually active," or switch, because the current sign doesn't illustrate the hypocrisy very well.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on March 22, 2012, 07:37:34 pm
Then they're both whores.

And on the other side:

Celibate male = Chaste

Celibate female = Prude.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 22, 2012, 07:47:45 pm
No no no, they're both sluts.  If you ain't chargin, you ain't a whore.  [/attempted-comedic-pedantry]
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on March 22, 2012, 07:59:05 pm
Pfft, I'm jealous of sluts. Sluts get to have sex every day, I have to wait for the weekend.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 22, 2012, 08:21:57 pm
Pfft, I have to wait until an undefined date in the future.  Lucky.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SkyTrekTower on March 22, 2012, 09:37:38 pm
Yeah, I'd either use sexually active for both or switch sexually active and promiscuous.  Sexually active, at least to me, is someone who is responsible with their sex life.  Promiscuous, on the other hand, is someone who engages in irresponsible activities, such as having unprotected sex with a new partner every night.  That being said, even in those cases, using language like "slut" and "whore" is unacceptable.  Some people just have different views of sex compared to the traditional sexist/misogynistic views of past.

However, society idolizes  males who have frequent sex while shaming women who do, so switching the two would be a good way of showing the double standard.

Also, I'm not so sure of the chaste/prude example, at least depending on the case.  I think it can go either way for both sexes depending on who's involved.  Some people see chastity as a good thing, while others see it as a bad thing. For instance, back in high school, some girls made fun of me for not having sex, while more recently, some women have been more supportive when I say I'm trying to get my life in order when they try to hook me up with a friend.

 
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Jack Mann on March 23, 2012, 05:18:14 am
I think that's part of the point of the sign, though.  Men are almost never described as "promiscuous."  They're just sexually active.  It's a part of the hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Quasirodent on March 23, 2012, 06:27:00 pm
I think that's part of the point of the sign, though.  Men are almost never described as "promiscuous."  They're just sexually active.  It's a part of the hypocrisy.

Unless they're gay. 
But I guess the logic is that gay men are half-women so they can be judged by woman standards. :p

(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/jobs-not-penis.jpg)

Going back a-ways I know, but I just wanted to point out: It looks like all the people in this protest are women.  Considering the religious situation in South Africa and how women are treated (shut up and make babies,)  it's quite possible this was deliberate.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on March 23, 2012, 09:02:00 pm
I think that's part of the point of the sign, though.  Men are almost never described as "promiscuous."  They're just sexually active.  It's a part of the hypocrisy.

Unless they're gay. 
But I guess the logic is that gay men are half-women so they can be judged by woman standards. :p

(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/jobs-not-penis.jpg)

Going back a-ways I know, but I just wanted to point out: It looks like all the people in this protest are women.  Considering the religious situation in South Africa and how women are treated (shut up and make babies,)  it's quite possible this was deliberate.

There's also that "you can cure aids by raping a virgin little girl" thing.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on March 24, 2012, 12:10:12 am
(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/syd-the-avenger/19779161039/2/tumblr_m1c5pnoPSD1ro3hjc)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: armandtanzarian on March 26, 2012, 11:12:36 am
I wanna hug this kid.
(http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/RRArk.JPG)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 26, 2012, 02:37:30 pm
I wonder if that kid genuinely wanted to attend that place with that sign.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on March 26, 2012, 06:05:05 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/563764_298683490202700_143053525765698_699276_212975209_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on March 26, 2012, 08:36:33 pm
Photographer shoulda closed down the aperture and used a wider angle lens for better depth of field. The sign loses some of its meaning with the building out of focus.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on March 27, 2012, 12:31:27 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/529277_403928622968718_196601040368145_1472017_2129093858_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Smurfette Principle on March 27, 2012, 07:36:32 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1jhhie0zU1rqa97uo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Nightangel8212 on March 28, 2012, 04:47:32 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1jhhie0zU1rqa97uo1_500.jpg)

Was that taken after George Zimmerman pulled his stunt? (I feel horrible, I can't remember the black kid's name... Trey-something... SORRY!!)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 28, 2012, 04:49:54 pm
Treyvon
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on March 30, 2012, 11:57:03 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/292149_422290531121674_259184544098941_1818712_1963109872_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on April 01, 2012, 04:12:31 pm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sinister-pictures/6887250604/sizes/l/in/photostream/

Direct linking was disabled.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 01, 2012, 07:42:52 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/292149_422290531121674_259184544098941_1818712_1963109872_n.jpg)

Yeah, if you defund education spending your illiteracy increases and the resulting lack of research points disadvantages can lead to you falling behind in the technology race. Your army can actually be weaker in the long run if you spend too much right now.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on April 01, 2012, 11:02:59 pm
(http://tdaait.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/tumblr_lv8q50pikg1qgvf7do1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on April 03, 2012, 12:16:10 am
found another one...
(http://i.imgur.com/hmtuq.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on April 03, 2012, 01:22:20 am
(http://intelwars.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/nascar-style-uniforms-for-congress.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 03, 2012, 03:36:56 am
Gosh, those company names are blurry. The fuck are they?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Smurfette Principle on April 03, 2012, 01:26:16 pm
Left side:

American Electric Power
General Electric
Citigroup Inc.
American Financial Group
Limited BrandsCME Group

Right side:

FirstEnergy Corp
AT&T Inc
Walt Disney Co.
Blue Cross/Blue Shield
FMR Group
Altria Group
Scott's Miracle-Gro
Murray Energy
AK Steel
Energy Future Holdings Group
Bank of America
Corinthian Colleges
NiSource Inc.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 03, 2012, 09:17:30 pm
Left side:

American Electric Power
General Electric
Citigroup Inc.
American Financial Group
Limited BrandsCME Group

Right side:

FirstEnergy Corp
AT&T Inc
Walt Disney Co.
Blue Cross/Blue Shield
FMR Group
Altria Group
Scott's Miracle-Gro
Murray Energy
AK Steel
Energy Future Holdings Group
Bank of America
Corinthian Colleges
NiSource Inc.

Thank youuuu. <3 My brain shut down trying to read the ones on the right.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on April 04, 2012, 05:38:12 am
seen outside a cafe in Israel.
(http://i.imgur.com/aoAzK.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on April 04, 2012, 07:11:15 am
So, what exactly happens if a customer choses to not respect that sign, I wonder.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Meshakhad on April 04, 2012, 01:52:44 pm
Ironically, the Hebrew underneath does forbid one group of people - those with weapons. The rough translation is "Forbidden to gather here with weapons".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 04, 2012, 02:26:08 pm
I hardly think that's discriminatory, though, considering you can leave weapons at home.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on April 04, 2012, 03:06:53 pm
I think it can be justified after that attack on an LGBT center in Israel a few years back.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on April 04, 2012, 03:36:31 pm
I suddenly want a copy of that sign.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on April 04, 2012, 03:58:06 pm
Ironically, the Hebrew underneath does forbid one group of people - those with weapons. The rough translation is "Forbidden to gather here with weapons".
Thanks - I was wondering about that
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on April 08, 2012, 09:58:13 am
I WANT this bumper sticker!!!
(http://geekisawesome.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Our-Only-Hope.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on April 10, 2012, 09:40:48 pm
I WANT this bumper sticker!!!
(http://geekisawesome.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Our-Only-Hope.jpg)

I raise you this:
 (http://mlkshk.com/r/DCZ)

That being said, here's a great spin on some church's sign
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/575436_428544997171017_108038612554992_1632674_456005831_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on April 11, 2012, 09:09:15 pm
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/533343_385299698171048_162657530435267_1250071_2005040638_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Mechtaur on April 11, 2012, 09:11:38 pm
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/533343_385299698171048_162657530435267_1250071_2005040638_n.jpg)

It is all about responsibility and making sure you suffer the consequences of what you start, Ol' Ricky Boy.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on April 12, 2012, 08:19:34 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/526689_386186924747142_137375766294927_1251342_1993371368_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Auri-El on April 13, 2012, 01:07:01 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/544583_431106870248709_122256581133741_1640409_1152902633_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on April 13, 2012, 05:36:25 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2afozkadg1qgc3xlo1_500.jpg)

(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2bn0oIQZD1rtcur5o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on April 14, 2012, 01:56:49 am
Rape jokes may not be funny, but they sure are sexy.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/374260_305890576112511_100000747133792_942950_809280435_n.jpg)

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1puzbVQkG1r4k4dho1_500.png)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s320x320/581206_394495517242278_312714258753738_1338984_533734147_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on April 15, 2012, 10:35:26 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p480x480/398290_433291016696961_122256581133741_1646696_410125099_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/542179_428607120499274_224319224261399_1657476_1738952810_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on April 16, 2012, 11:52:35 am
Could you go bisexual though?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 16, 2012, 01:54:36 pm
Could you go bisexual though?

I wish I could go bisexual :P
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on April 17, 2012, 03:15:01 pm
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eAK5Wntrh2o/T4v_8vTfVxI/AAAAAAABVhA/hWraUUlWo80/s1600/LivelyPhoto.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on April 17, 2012, 08:07:53 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/575606_431425333550786_224319224261399_1662499_692793359_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on April 18, 2012, 02:29:46 am
(http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/images/user_photos/1233885/055952f0685100ebcbcfbfc3079470d8_width_640x.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Quasirodent on April 18, 2012, 12:54:46 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/575606_431425333550786_224319224261399_1662499_692793359_n.jpg)

I disagree with this one.  I support pro-choice, that choice needs to be there because a woman might NEED to make that choice, to protect her own life, to avoid birthing a child she can't raise or which would have no quality of life, plenty of other good, serious reasons.  But I feel that 'pregnant' gives the anti-choice people more fuel.  'Pregnant' isn't an exceptional condition that threatens the mother or would preclude a child having a good life.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 18, 2012, 02:49:46 pm
^ I think it's riffing the fact that many staunch pro-life women will go out and get an abortion when they get pregnant.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on April 18, 2012, 02:51:00 pm
Pregnancy costs well over $9,000. And it would impact the woman's social life and job.

And it's sucky </understatement>

^ I think it's riffing the fact that many staunch pro-life women will go out and get an abortion when they get pregnant.

But they is gud gurls now! They repented to Jeebus and saw the errors of their ways.

Ironically, it seems like they are saying women become pro-life because they got an abortion.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s320x320/575003_420410694654809_206934106002470_1433227_1831744418_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Quasirodent on April 18, 2012, 11:58:16 pm
Oh I'm aware that pregnancy is expensive and changes one's life, it's simply that those are the least crucial reasons to have one, out of so many that could affect a woman.  So it's like downplaying the real reasons why it's important to keep them legal.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on April 19, 2012, 12:35:05 am
But that's not our argument anyways. We aren't arguing that abortion should be legal for women who are poor or women who have health problems, we are arguing that it should be legal for everyone.

~80-90% of abortions are done for convenience anyways.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on April 19, 2012, 01:10:45 am
Oh I'm aware that pregnancy is expensive and changes one's life, it's simply that those are the least crucial reasons to have one, out of so many that could affect a woman.  So it's like downplaying the real reasons why it's important to keep them legal.

I think you're the one downplaying things by suggesting that the expenses and life-altering consequences of pregnancy aren't "real" reasons...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on April 19, 2012, 01:11:35 am
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/482653_114327328697905_109288639201774_69395_1639080456_n.jpg)

Expenses are indeed valid reasons to have an abortion. Imagine raising a child with no financial means to support one. It's going to fuck the up the child, as well as the parent.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on April 19, 2012, 02:50:41 am
Not only that, but pregnancy itself is expensive, particularly if one lacks any sort of health coverage. Carrying a child to term without prenatal checkups, a midterm ultrasound, prenatal vitamins, proper assistance during the delivery, and so on is risky as hell, and none of those things are cheap. Granted, sometimes adoptive couples will cover the expenses, but that isn't a guarantee.

Then there's the matter of all the emotional tolls of an unexpected/unwanted pregnancy -- dealing with the changes to your body, the judgment you receive from others, the influence of hormones on your mental health, fear of childbirth, plus a million other psychological effects that one might not be capable of handling.

I really don't see how any of these things belittle the other reasons for keeping abortion illegal. They're all valid points that need to be laid out during abortion debates. To paraphrase the sign, this stuff may seem inconsequential until you're the one dealing with it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Quasirodent on April 19, 2012, 01:05:40 pm
To paraphrase the sign, this stuff may seem inconsequential until you're the one dealing with it.

No doubt.

I suppose I was thinking that the matters of a normal healthy pregnancy - financial and emotional and in terms of quality of life - are also dealt with by all the women that intend to have a baby.  Including the poor and unfit.  So to someone who's anti-choice, it would come down to, 'well, if this other person can handle it, why can't you?'  Making it look like a weaker argument than others available.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on April 20, 2012, 05:39:05 pm
(http://cdn.front.moveon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/OWS1.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on April 21, 2012, 08:17:06 pm
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2qd15KsxS1r0gpxao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on April 21, 2012, 08:41:42 pm
Get back in the hospital, lunatic.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Damen on April 21, 2012, 08:44:12 pm
Get back in the hospital, lunatic.

Can't afford it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 21, 2012, 08:55:36 pm
Bootstraps, motherfucker!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on April 21, 2012, 09:02:48 pm
There ain't any!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Damen on April 21, 2012, 09:09:48 pm
Bootstraps, motherfucker!

Sold them for a warm sandwich.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on April 21, 2012, 09:20:24 pm
Bootstraps, motherfucker!

They were outsourced.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 21, 2012, 09:26:31 pm
Bootstraps, motherfucker!

We can't pull ourselves up by our bootstraps, WHEN WE CAN'T EVEN AFFORD THE FUCKING BOOTSTRAPS!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 22, 2012, 01:31:10 am
My boots came without them... from birth.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on April 22, 2012, 03:57:02 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/421633_408936652465185_108038612554992_1570807_12879727_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/577853_423251227703124_196601040368145_1532976_1785315827_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Her3tiK on April 22, 2012, 05:45:49 pm
And drugs. Don't forget drugs.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Zygarde on April 22, 2012, 06:07:26 pm
Can we add race to that for good measure?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on April 22, 2012, 06:08:34 pm
They had "minorities", which includes racial minorities.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Zygarde on April 22, 2012, 06:12:16 pm
Did not see that i guess.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on April 22, 2012, 06:16:01 pm
Did not see that i guess.

Yeah, there’s a lot to keep track of.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on April 22, 2012, 06:18:49 pm
Yeah I kind of wish that protest signs had fewer words or bigger words, because it's really hard to squint from across the street to read an essay in a size-16 font taped to a piece of cardboard.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on April 23, 2012, 01:23:32 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/p480x480/306573_392988917399043_174612345903369_1179527_388086133_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 23, 2012, 08:36:50 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/p480x480/306573_392988917399043_174612345903369_1179527_388086133_n.jpg)

Hear, hear! *toasts*
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on April 23, 2012, 09:17:39 pm
(http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/media/images/1126-americandream/11078216-1-eng-US/1126-americandream_full_600.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mlXoAPNTjbo/Tp2jQWVLpOI/AAAAAAAAAC4/NuXsqoNOCuc/s1600/occupy-wall-street-protest-signs-14.jpg)

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on April 25, 2012, 02:01:30 am
(https://images.nonexiste.net/popular/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/It-s-funnier-when-you-read-it-without-the-commas.jpeg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on April 28, 2012, 10:31:21 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/575919_381873011844410_100000651442523_1156767_818549933_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: myusername on April 29, 2012, 05:55:56 pm
Not the most nuanced one in the world, but...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on April 30, 2012, 05:08:25 pm
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3827foHob1qf0ymwo7_500.jpg)

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 30, 2012, 05:49:26 pm
Add "a corporation" to that for good measure.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Saturn500 on April 30, 2012, 05:57:46 pm
And "white" and "a male"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 30, 2012, 07:04:37 pm
And "white" and "a male"

I'm a white male and I'm pretty sure republicans hate me. Though it's for other reasons.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on April 30, 2012, 08:12:50 pm
White male wealthy heterosexual christian and middle-aged.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on April 30, 2012, 10:59:18 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/542044_3820564352850_1239917852_33609818_657509300_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on April 30, 2012, 11:16:39 pm
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3827foHob1qf0ymwo7_500.jpg)



Not really, they don't care much about the fetus either. Otherwise, they'd provide free prenatal and postnatal care for all their forced births. The fetus is just a convenient thing to slut shame women with.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 01, 2012, 09:57:12 am
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3827foHob1qf0ymwo7_500.jpg)



Not really, they don't care much about the fetus either. Otherwise, they'd provide free prenatal and postnatal care for all their forced births. The fetus is just a convenient thing to slut shame women with.
Agreed if they did care then stories like that guy who's wife miscarried since his insurance wouldn't cover prenatal would not happen
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on May 01, 2012, 07:25:02 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/542044_3820564352850_1239917852_33609818_657509300_n.jpg)
ROFLMAO - That' s fantastic.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on May 01, 2012, 08:46:57 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/gr3DX.jpg) - an unsubtle sarcastic protest - but a protest nontheless...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on May 01, 2012, 08:53:57 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/398784_10151558679545417_788480416_25162100_1774941822_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 03, 2012, 09:02:53 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m273ecTMWt1qgb18uo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sylvana on May 04, 2012, 03:50:42 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m273ecTMWt1qgb18uo1_500.jpg)
That is one of the best signs I have ever seen. It is painfully direct and too the point.
I support abortion, and I still felt like that poster took a bite out of me.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Damen on May 05, 2012, 07:25:28 pm
Spoiler because it's mildly NSFW.

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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: e13 on May 06, 2012, 01:57:25 am
Spoiler because it's mildly NSFW.

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Oddly enough, yes!  :o
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Eniliad on May 06, 2012, 03:59:14 am
This would be the scene:

Me: *finds that woman, stares for a solid minute*

Her: What? You got a problem with my sign?

Me: Ab ab ... no... I just really like looking at penises. O.o
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: OscarApollo on May 06, 2012, 06:02:26 pm
Spoiler because it's mildly NSFW.

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Actually, she has a dick but she's obviously female, which would make her pre-op transwoman... meaning she'd have even less rights than a ciswoman? o:

[/overthinkingthings]
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Eniliad on May 06, 2012, 07:31:44 pm
Have to be honest, I'm not sure exactly what she's protesting.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: e13 on May 06, 2012, 08:08:02 pm
Have to be honest, I'm not sure exactly what she's protesting.
She's pointing out the fact that men put up with less bullshit in regards to the protection of their rights.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Eniliad on May 06, 2012, 08:20:14 pm
Oh, ok. I figured it was either that, or something having to do with transphobia. It'd be an effective sign for either.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 06, 2012, 08:45:03 pm
Not seeing the trans thing myself.

But it's a pretty effective sign. Equalityyyy.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on May 06, 2012, 08:49:36 pm
I can’t tell for sure, but it looks like that could be in Madison. If so, that is probably a response to the recent repeal of the law protecting equal pay for women.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on May 06, 2012, 10:33:55 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/561354_449493498410636_224319224261399_1711100_97261454_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Eniliad on May 06, 2012, 11:37:34 pm
That's not a protest sign though. O.o
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on May 06, 2012, 11:38:56 pm
It works. (We have bumberstickers in the dumbest protest thread too.)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: e13 on May 07, 2012, 01:43:34 am
That's not a protest sign though. O.o
Jesus Loves You is a common slogan for various Christian religions. This is a "take that" against those religions, and since most churches insist on being involved in politics, it becomes political.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on May 07, 2012, 07:10:17 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/528845_454122364613826_122256581133741_1701505_1925673956_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 08, 2012, 10:33:15 pm
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m39f1k8ori1r5fdwyo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on May 09, 2012, 12:45:17 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/577522_437276129633967_196601040368145_1572090_704658074_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Vypernight on May 09, 2012, 03:47:35 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/528845_454122364613826_122256581133741_1701505_1925673956_n.jpg)

We need more Christians like these.  They're the True Christians.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 09, 2012, 03:56:29 am
the True Christians.

I dislike that phrase.

They're as much Christians as the idiot fundies are.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on May 09, 2012, 04:06:20 am
"Truly decent person & not just a self-righteous twat" is probably a better descriptor.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Vypernight on May 09, 2012, 04:16:07 am
pretty much.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rookie on May 09, 2012, 11:24:03 am
the True Christians.

I dislike that phrase.

They're as much Christians as the idiot fundies are.

Perhaps Viper's use of that phrase was a play on some groups use of "True Christians", the ones who are all about Republican Jesus and hate speech? At least that's how I read it, mocking jack asses.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on May 09, 2012, 11:26:51 am
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m39f1k8ori1r5fdwyo1_500.jpg)

I think it is the guy on the right.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: e13 on May 09, 2012, 02:49:53 pm
the True Christians.

I dislike that phrase.

They're as much Christians as the idiot fundies are.
No true Scotsman?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 09, 2012, 09:10:35 pm
the True Christians.

I dislike that phrase.

They're as much Christians as the idiot fundies are.
No true Scotsman?

Exactly
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on May 10, 2012, 12:08:19 am
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3ptrjoyBU1qmaoalo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on May 10, 2012, 11:47:54 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/525974_437991139562466_196601040368145_1574546_2055274482_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 10, 2012, 12:48:41 pm
(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3p2y2FGaO1qhaj9go1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on May 10, 2012, 08:49:35 pm
(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3p2y2FGaO1qhaj9go1_500.jpg)

Sports nuts? Lol wut?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on May 10, 2012, 09:00:57 pm
Sports nuts? Lol wut?

Well, you know going nuts over your favorite team is idolatry. Especially if you stay home to watch the big game on Sunday. ::)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: e13 on May 10, 2012, 11:42:35 pm
The fact I use affirmations from sources like My Little Pony, comic books, and worst of all, Buddhism would probably make them shit their pants.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on May 11, 2012, 12:24:26 am
Sports nuts? Lol wut?

Well, you know going nuts over your favorite team is idolatry. Especially if you stay home to watch the big game on Sunday. ::)

Although a lot of fans can get really rough over which teams they support. Sadly, given the other people he listed, he probably isn't referring to those kind of people.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on May 11, 2012, 02:18:23 am
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3ptrjoyBU1qmaoalo1_500.jpg)

Did he actually say that?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Her3tiK on May 11, 2012, 02:23:06 am
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3ptrjoyBU1qmaoalo1_500.jpg)

Did he actually say that?
Yes. (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19romney.html)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Quasirodent on May 11, 2012, 04:17:13 pm
I'm not totally sure if this should go here - it's an image macro, not technically a sign... but it's also too political for 'funny pictures' and it's not a cartoon... so.

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/536723_10150811141951840_21785951839_9862366_826398878_n.jpg)

The truly funny thing was the reaction to this over on Facebook, a gaggle of morons who couldn't grasp the idea of 'sarcasm' complaining that various items on the list aren't true.
Duh, really?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Jodie on May 11, 2012, 04:44:27 pm
The truly funny thing was the reaction to this over on Facebook, a gaggle of morons who couldn't grasp the idea of 'sarcasm' complaining that various items on the list aren't true.
Duh, really?

LOLZ
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on May 11, 2012, 09:38:41 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/536752_10150863814537346_60447222345_9701545_1720738762_n.jpg)

Awesomest comment:

Quote
So the GOP point people on marriage are: A three-time divorced fat radio host (Limbaugh), an unwed teen mother (Bristol Palin), a dude with five grandmothers (Romney), and a never married spinster (Ann Coulter). OK, got it.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/546440_10150854611027346_60447222345_9688524_2066444295_n.jpg)

See the dumb comment on TPSOFR
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 12, 2012, 01:08:46 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3wvkiBddh1qbi5czo1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on May 12, 2012, 02:09:49 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3k9lepTat1qbntr4o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on May 12, 2012, 02:33:12 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3wvkiBddh1qbi5czo1_1280.png)

So they have... sports teams? I don't get it. Are they saying people who watch sports are ignorant, because every state has several sport teams.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on May 12, 2012, 02:41:03 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3wvkiBddh1qbi5czo1_1280.png)

So they have... sports teams? I don't get it. Are they saying people who watch sports are ignorant, because every state has several sport teams.

I think those are the sports teams of colleges. All the counties that voted against Amendment One had a college in the county, with one exception that was neighbors to three counties with colleges anyway. They're saying the intelligent people were against the amendment.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on May 12, 2012, 03:31:10 pm
The use of the sports teams logos threw me off as well. Don’t those colleges also have general purpose logos? If they used those, the association with academics over sports would have been more apparent, I think.

Though it does look like UNCW is a general purpose logo.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on May 12, 2012, 03:35:37 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3wvkiBddh1qbi5czo1_1280.png)

So they have... sports teams? I don't get it. Are they saying people who watch sports are ignorant, because every state has several sport teams.

Jesus how dumb can you be?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 12, 2012, 06:30:21 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3wvkiBddh1qbi5czo1_1280.png)

So they have... sports teams? I don't get it. Are they saying people who watch sports are ignorant, because every state has several sport teams.

I think those are the sports teams of colleges. All the counties that voted against Amendment One had a college in the county, with one exception that was neighbors to three counties with colleges anyway. They're saying the intelligent people were against the amendment.

Yes, that's it exactly. I didn't make the image. I would've used the regular college logo.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Quasirodent on May 12, 2012, 07:02:21 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3wvkiBddh1qbi5czo1_1280.png)

So they have... sports teams? I don't get it. Are they saying people who watch sports are ignorant, because every state has several sport teams.

Jesus how dumb can you be?

That's uncalled for - I'm not American, I don't watch sports, I didn't get it either.  Not everyone knows what sports logos mean. :p
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 12, 2012, 07:28:39 pm
It has nothing to do with sports teams.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Quasirodent on May 12, 2012, 07:32:51 pm
It's indicating that the counties/districts that voted against the propositions have colleges in them, right?  But they're using the logos of the varsity teams to indicate the colleges.  People who don't follow sports and/or aren't American have little way of knowing that these sports logos refer to colleges.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on May 12, 2012, 08:22:02 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3wvkiBddh1qbi5czo1_1280.png)

So they have... sports teams? I don't get it. Are they saying people who watch sports are ignorant, because every state has several sport teams.

Jesus how dumb can you be?

You didn't understand it either? You should read MadCatTLX's comment.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 12, 2012, 08:34:24 pm
It's indicating that the counties/districts that voted against the propositions have colleges in them, right?  But they're using the logos of the varsity teams to indicate the colleges.  People who don't follow sports and/or aren't American have little way of knowing that these sports logos refer to colleges.

That's a contradiction. How would you know they're sports logos? The houses at Hogwarts used animals for their logos. >.> And the logo for Hogwarts itself was an animal.

Either way, focusing on the wrong part. If they're college sports, they're attached to colleges. The colleges is the main thing.

Lexi's comment is also really weird because the "NO's" are attached to the colleges. Therefore, it has nothing to do with ignorance at all.

Here, is this one better?

(http://www.truthwinsout.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/nc1.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on May 12, 2012, 08:35:22 pm
The logos of university or college sports teams often have more exposure than the logos of those schools themselves, and are thus more recognizable. That's why they probably went with the sports logos.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on May 12, 2012, 08:49:17 pm
It's indicating that the counties/districts that voted against the propositions have colleges in them, right?  But they're using the logos of the varsity teams to indicate the colleges.  People who don't follow sports and/or aren't American have little way of knowing that these sports logos refer to colleges.

That's a contradiction. How would you know they're sports logos? The houses at Hogwarts used animals for their logos. >.> And the logo for Hogwarts itself was an animal.


Maybe because 49ers and Spartans sound like sports teams. And Hogwarts is a fictional school, although the logo would have said "Hogwarts" not whatever competitive Quidditch team they had.

Quote
Lexi's comment is also really weird because the "NO's" are attached to the colleges. Therefore, it has nothing to do with ignorance at all.

I thought that it was highlighted to make it stand out

Quote
Here, is this one better?

Snip


Absolutely considering where colleges are located doesn't show how much people where went there. And I'm pretty sure that there are colleges in the other districts.

(http://climatecrock.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/bachmannsmall.jpg?w=480&h=171)


(http://climatecrock.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/cheneysmall.jpg?w=480&h=171)

(http://climatecrock.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/palinsmall.jpg?w=480&h=171)

(http://climatecrock.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/camelsmall.jpg?w=480&h=171)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on May 12, 2012, 09:06:18 pm
It's indicating that the counties/districts that voted against the propositions have colleges in them, right?  But they're using the logos of the varsity teams to indicate the colleges.  People who don't follow sports and/or aren't American have little way of knowing that these sports logos refer to colleges.

That's a contradiction. How would you know they're sports logos? The houses at Hogwarts used animals for their logos. >.> And the logo for Hogwarts itself was an animal.


Maybe because 49ers and Spartans sound like sports teams. And Hogwarts is a fictional school, although the logo would have said "Hogwarts" not whatever competitive Quidditch team they had.

Plus the very style of the logo is a sporty style. A college’s main logo is generally far more “professional” looking. Less blocky, and a less cartoony version of the mascot, if that mascot is featured at all.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 12, 2012, 09:16:46 pm
(https://static.berecruited.com/images/logos/5224.jpg)

Generally yes, not always.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3wz60ovez1qi30rco1_500.png)
The bottom part got cut off and says "Tell me how it affects you".

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3k9znTMSK1r93euuo1_500.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m30dzueSWm1qclawbo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on May 12, 2012, 09:21:03 pm
Generally yes, not always.

That is why I almost always use some sort of non-absolute qualifier in my statements. (Note that this very post is another such example. :D)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 12, 2012, 09:23:26 pm
I just wanted a chance to poke fun at my old school. :P
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on May 12, 2012, 09:29:36 pm

No I figured it out from a partial glance.


Doubt it.


(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3wz60ovez1qi30rco1_500.png)
The bottom part got cut off and says "Tell me how it affects you".


Judges will be forced to marry gay couples, workers in fertility clinical will have to provide services, doctors will have to allow people to visit their same sex partner in the hospital, and adoption programs will have to give gays children. Doing these acts of civil service will cause their skin to burn and turn green from bigotry.

Quote
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3k9znTMSK1r93euuo1_500.jpg)

People who claim to do good in his name when they're evil. So basically, he'd be like us.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on May 12, 2012, 10:02:32 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3wvkiBddh1qbi5czo1_1280.png)

So they have... sports teams? I don't get it. Are they saying people who watch sports are ignorant, because every state has several sport teams.

Jesus how dumb can you be?

You didn't understand it either? You should read MadCatTLX's comment.

No I figured it out from a partial glance.

Ironbite-you're starting to backslide dude.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on May 13, 2012, 02:11:27 am
To be honest, I didn't get it either. Maybe non-Americans just don't get parochial, jokes based on situations unique to the States.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Atheissimo on May 13, 2012, 09:17:55 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3wvkiBddh1qbi5czo1_1280.png)

So they have... sports teams? I don't get it. Are they saying people who watch sports are ignorant, because every state has several sport teams.


Jesus how dumb can you be?

You didn't understand it either? You should read MadCatTLX's comment.

No I figured it out from a partial glance.

Ironbite-you're starting to backslide dude.

I think I get it. Those logos represent colleges, and since the places that voted no on amendment one all have major colleges in them you're suggesting that the no vote was linked to the level of education.

I initially assumed those were sports teams. Outside America inter-college sport is nothing like as popular, and the teams don't tend to have logos that anybody outside of the University itself would recognise.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 13, 2012, 04:35:52 pm
To complain about how it should be easily figured out by people outside of the US (or even not in the South) or those who aren't sports-oriented, is a little silly.

It's like an American demanding a protest sign done in Russia to be written in English and not make references to pop culture that can really only be found in Russia and other Slavic countries. We'd all love that, wouldn't we?

Sometimes signs are made for the main audience that will read it.

As an example:
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m108rbCWRb1r5ihdqo1_500.jpg)

Icelandic protest sign. It's not in English, there's barely any context as to what it's for. But I'm sure the average person in Iceland would know it's 1) saying "Goddamn Fucking Fuck" (loosely) 2) It was used to protest the changes to the Icelandic government.

Get what I'm saying?

>.>

Either way...

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzyo7hDFI21qayd63o1_500.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyjl8nWLlQ1rnw8q4o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Quasirodent on May 13, 2012, 06:11:07 pm
To complain about how it should be easily figured out by people outside of the US (or even not in the South) or those who aren't sports-oriented, is a little silly.

Except that's not what's happening here.  Ironbite was calling other people stupid for not getting the cartoon, and I was arguing that people outside the US (or who just don't follow college sports) have perfectly good reasons for not connecting colleges to their sports team logos and that doesn't make us stupid or deserving of insults.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 13, 2012, 07:33:59 pm
It doesn't really matter, does it? The point got across.

Protest signs aren't like public buildings: they don't need to be accessible to everyone.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on May 13, 2012, 10:19:08 pm
These aren't quite protest signs, but I think they're close enough to fit here.

(http://blogs.knoxnews.com/knx/silence/gaygraph.jpg)

(http://oi50.tinypic.com/2rwt6di.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Quasirodent on May 13, 2012, 11:45:43 pm
It doesn't really matter, does it? The point got across.

Protest signs aren't like public buildings: they don't need to be accessible to everyone.

The point didn't get across to everyone, and you're missing the point of that it's not right to call people stupid for not getting something that's outside of their culture or experience and asking for clarification.  I never said the cartoon should be clearer, just that it doesn't make us stupid if we don't get something that's not, by design, accessible to us.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 14, 2012, 04:24:58 am
It doesn't really matter, does it? The point got across.

Protest signs aren't like public buildings: they don't need to be accessible to everyone.

The point didn't get across to everyone, and you're missing the point of that it's not right to call people stupid for not getting something that's outside of their culture or experience and asking for clarification.  I never said the cartoon should be clearer, just that it doesn't make us stupid if we don't get something that's not, by design, accessible to us.
You'd have said point if I had made it clear I was defending the remark made by dear Ironbite (and if it did seem like it, my apologies). Needless to say, the point is not there because I wasn't defending that. I was defending the 'sign' itself. But let's move on shall we?

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3zl9lm54I1qbi5czo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Yla on May 14, 2012, 04:42:37 am
My quarrel with the college/no-vote correlation is that it's the equivalent of calling the other side stupid.
"You just have these opinions because you're uneducated. If you were smart, you'd think otherwise."
Someone who agrees with the position feels vindicated (elitism yay). Someone who disagrees feels insulted and is provoked to a response of antiintellectualism. As if we hadn't enough of that already.

It's okay to state the truth. The map is the equivalent of smugly rubbing it in.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on May 14, 2012, 08:12:46 am
My quarrel with the college/no-vote correlation is that it's the equivalent of calling the other side stupid.
"You just have these opinions because you're uneducated. If you were smart, you'd think otherwise."
Someone who agrees with the position feels vindicated (elitism yay). Someone who disagrees feels insulted and is provoked to a response of antiintellectualism. As if we hadn't enough of that already.

It's okay to state the truth. The map is the equivalent of smugly rubbing it in.

I think there was a study that showed people who vote conservative tend to have a lower IQ.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on May 14, 2012, 08:32:21 am
My quarrel with the college/no-vote correlation is that it's the equivalent of calling the other side stupid.
"You just have these opinions because you're uneducated. If you were smart, you'd think otherwise."
Someone who agrees with the position feels vindicated (elitism yay). Someone who disagrees feels insulted and is provoked to a response of antiintellectualism. As if we hadn't enough of that already.

It's okay to state the truth. The map is the equivalent of smugly rubbing it in.

I think there was a study that showed people who vote conservative tend to have a lower IQ.

I think that was a fake study and an experiment to see if people bother to check sources.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on May 14, 2012, 11:48:38 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxz9umYv4a1qbomn4o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on May 14, 2012, 11:57:07 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxz9umYv4a1qbomn4o1_500.jpg)

I'm not sure if it even has enough for everyone's needs. If it does we're getting close to the limit.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on May 16, 2012, 02:37:52 am
(http://i.imgur.com/zZaKM.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 16, 2012, 03:29:52 pm
Duuuuuuuuuuuuude...yes.  What the fuck happened to his hair?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Meshakhad on May 16, 2012, 04:19:30 pm
He's an alien.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 16, 2012, 05:55:13 pm
I also like how his skin tone changes wildly.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on May 16, 2012, 06:28:33 pm
I also like how his skin tone changes wildly.

Well, that is just a matter how the lights were set up during each filming incident and, it looks like, how much bottled tan the guy has been using as well.

But there is just no rational explanation for the hair other than, ALIENS.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 16, 2012, 06:52:33 pm
I know. I just found it amusing.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on May 16, 2012, 07:53:06 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/zZaKM.jpg)

Shouldn't this be in the "Funny/Stupid Picture" thread?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on May 16, 2012, 09:19:40 pm
Duuuuuuuuuuuuude...yes.  What the fuck happened to his hair?
I know, how is that look considered a good look?? That look just makes you look like an ass, unless he's trolling us, and decided one day, "I'll go with the crazy idiot look to match the bs that I like to spout on TV"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on May 16, 2012, 09:22:54 pm
Duuuuuuuuuuuuude...yes.  What the fuck happened to his hair?
I know, how is that look considered a good look?? That look just makes you look like an ass, unless he's trolling us, and decided one day, "I'll go with the crazy idiot look to match the bs that I like to spout on TV"

Maybe he's half troll-doll
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on May 16, 2012, 10:15:15 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/577465_453784621301963_236565153023912_1799585_732005330_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on May 17, 2012, 12:05:58 am
What has been seen...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DarkfireTaimatsu on May 17, 2012, 07:20:36 am
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/398864_422175784474157_100000452174571_1410325_164376825_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on May 17, 2012, 09:25:00 am
I love the look on the face of the guy to the far right.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on May 17, 2012, 12:04:24 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/577689_10150820706821275_177486166274_10016902_1670702425_n.jpg)

In case, you have trouble what the sign the kid is holding up, it reads:
"God Hates No One"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Saturn500 on May 17, 2012, 01:40:40 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/577689_10150820706821275_177486166274_10016902_1670702425_n.jpg)

In case, you have trouble what the sign the kid is holding up, it reads:
"God Hates No One"

I think the kid's in a perfect position to moon those other protestors.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Quasirodent on May 17, 2012, 02:13:08 pm
If God hates everyone and it's 'too late to pray' or otherwise make amends, what exactly does the WBC hope to achieve by protesting?  Are they just telling us for the sake of gloating?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: e13 on May 17, 2012, 02:25:24 pm
Pretty much. Mainly, it helps keep the cult active.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Her3tiK on May 17, 2012, 03:12:23 pm
How else will they stroke their egos?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 17, 2012, 06:44:56 pm
If God hates everyone and it's 'too late to pray' or otherwise make amends, what exactly does the WBC hope to achieve by protesting?  Are they just telling us for the sake of gloating?

It's probably to create a them vs. us atmosphere.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on May 17, 2012, 07:02:10 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/577689_10150820706821275_177486166274_10016902_1670702425_n.jpg)

In case, you have trouble what the sign the kid is holding up, it reads:
"God Hates No One"

Amen, kid.  :)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on May 17, 2012, 09:31:53 pm
If God hates everyone and it's 'too late to pray' or otherwise make amends, what exactly does the WBC hope to achieve by protesting?  Are they just telling us for the sake of gloating?

They attempt to justify it by spouting bible passages that tell believers to shout god's message from the rooftops and whatnot.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 17, 2012, 09:56:55 pm
Not a protest sign, but it's a pretty good statement.

(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5229/52290910150624006477257.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 17, 2012, 10:19:53 pm
Let's see if this sign will be a little less controversial than the Amendment 1 I posted:

(http://i49.tinypic.com/2yoof2r.jpg)

Spoiler: I doubt it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on May 17, 2012, 10:24:33 pm
If God hates everyone and it's 'too late to pray' or otherwise make amends, what exactly does the WBC hope to achieve by protesting?  Are they just telling us for the sake of gloating?

It's probably to create a them vs. us atmosphere.

I have a hard time believing that there could be absolutely no one in that clan that is not self-aware enough to realize that half of their “God Hates X” slogans apply to themselves. And I believe I have heard a few things about them that would point to that. There just so happens to be a metric fuck-ton of self-loathing involved. So, yeah, I think this may be one of those few times the ol’ cliché “hate everyone else because they really don’t like themselves” thing may be true.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ThunderWulf on May 17, 2012, 10:27:45 pm
Let's see if this sign will be a little less controversial than the Amendment 1 I posted:

(http://i49.tinypic.com/2yoof2r.jpg)

Spoiler: I doubt it.

The "I'm not here anymore" one gave me a sad.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on May 17, 2012, 11:13:16 pm
Well... the suicides needed representing too.  Gave me a sad as well.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: e13 on May 17, 2012, 11:25:56 pm
Not a protest sign, but it's a pretty good statement.

(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5229/52290910150624006477257.jpg)
...I'm pretty spiritual, and I like to see the positives in faith, but... this is a disturbingly accurate picture of how the Judeo-Christian God is spoken of. And it kind of chills me.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on May 17, 2012, 11:26:55 pm
Let's see if this sign will be a little less controversial than the Amendment 1 I posted:

(http://i49.tinypic.com/2yoof2r.jpg)

Spoiler: I doubt it.

I think that will get some people to oppose LGBT rights even more. Hopefully more people have empathy.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: JohnE on May 18, 2012, 12:06:13 am
One of my friends from school who was very homophobic back then just shared that image on Facebook.

(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/240/470/646.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on May 18, 2012, 12:55:05 am
One of my friends from school who was very homophobic back then just shared that image on Facebook.

(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/240/470/646.jpg)

Are you sure there not trying to say they support the bad things that were done to these people? Is it really possible that someone was dragged, probably kicking and screaming all the way, out of stupidity, ignorance, and hatefulness?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on May 18, 2012, 01:39:24 am
The "I'm not here anymore" one gave me a sad.

Same. :(
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 18, 2012, 03:49:48 am
One of my friends from school who was very homophobic back then just shared that image on Facebook.

(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/240/470/646.jpg)

Are you sure there not trying to say they support the bad things that were done to these people? Is it really possible that someone was dragged, probably kicking and screaming all the way, out of stupidity, ignorance, and hatefulness?

 People can change. Many of us on here changed our world view.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Vypernight on May 18, 2012, 04:34:54 am

If God hates everyone and it's 'too late to pray' or otherwise make amends, what exactly does the WBC hope to achieve by protesting?  Are they just telling us for the sake of gloating?

Assuming a higher power of some kind exists, I have a hard time believing that a being capable of creating millions of planets and starts really gives a **** what two 'insects' on one of them is doing.

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Quasirodent on May 18, 2012, 11:03:26 am

If God hates everyone and it's 'too late to pray' or otherwise make amends, what exactly does the WBC hope to achieve by protesting?  Are they just telling us for the sake of gloating?

Assuming a higher power of some kind exists, I have a hard time believing that a being capable of creating millions of planets and starts really gives a **** what two 'insects' on one of them is doing.

Well so do I, but this is what the WBC seem to believe, and I want to know what they're trying to make happen if it's too late to change their God's decision?  Protestors tend to have a cause - they want someone to do something.  What does the WBC want us to do?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 18, 2012, 12:41:22 pm

If God hates everyone and it's 'too late to pray' or otherwise make amends, what exactly does the WBC hope to achieve by protesting?  Are they just telling us for the sake of gloating?

Assuming a higher power of some kind exists, I have a hard time believing that a being capable of creating millions of planets and starts really gives a **** what two 'insects' on one of them is doing.

Well so do I, but this is what the WBC seem to believe, and I want to know what they're trying to make happen if it's too late to change their God's decision?  Protestors tend to have a cause - they want someone to do something.  What does the WBC want us to do?
Pay attention seriously it is best to ignore them cause reall ythe church is tiny and insigificant
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on May 18, 2012, 10:49:06 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/1sWKd.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 19, 2012, 01:43:25 am
Not a protest sign, but it's a pretty good statement.

(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5229/52290910150624006477257.jpg)
...I'm pretty spiritual, and I like to see the positives in faith, but... this is a disturbingly accurate picture of how the Judeo-Christian God is spoken of. And it kind of chills me.

Yeah...the Bible's pretty fucking chilling.  The Bronze Age was a brutal fucking time, at least now we're dignified.  We use artillery!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Her3tiK on May 19, 2012, 02:38:06 am
(http://i.imgur.com/1sWKd.jpg)
I kind of want to put that up on my wall.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on May 19, 2012, 09:16:32 am
Damn. I just got off a youtube video of a squirrel eating a lemon. And that put me in a certain frame of mind. Because of that frame of mind I am now associating Natuarlly that put the Nom Nom Nom song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMWi7CLoZ2Q) with cunnilingus. Way to go, Internet.

I bet a video of that already exists, too.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on May 20, 2012, 03:59:09 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m321e0R7851qm6gfno1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: e13 on May 20, 2012, 03:20:47 pm
He would if he wasn't certain his worries were correct. He'd have to be certain...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Damen on May 21, 2012, 06:21:20 am
Another mildly NSFW pic.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 22, 2012, 11:06:47 am
Not really a protest sign but:
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4d6c8bkOF1r0lkqno1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on May 22, 2012, 12:41:09 pm
That's pretty cool.  Now I wonder if they practice what their sign preaches?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheL on May 23, 2012, 08:18:06 pm
That's pretty cool.  Now I wonder if they practice what their sign preaches?

Generally, the churches that put up signage like that are from the more gay-friendly denominations, so probably yes.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on May 24, 2012, 02:44:35 am
That's encouraging, then. :)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on May 24, 2012, 06:29:37 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/389230_10151736061880117_302201620116_24121270_576705729_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on May 24, 2012, 06:53:44 pm
Pictures and signs like that make me proud to be a teacher's kid.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on May 24, 2012, 11:58:35 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3xr2bcD6U1rsj9m9o1_500.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on May 25, 2012, 12:48:17 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/578293_448901941805854_146102179_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/541181_414334891932891_1795750050_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on May 25, 2012, 06:20:49 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/541181_414334891932891_1795750050_n.jpg)

Love it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on May 26, 2012, 02:21:41 pm
don't know if this one was posted already or not...
(http://i.imgur.com/CZiwO.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on May 26, 2012, 03:15:43 pm
Thank you, you owe me a new keyboard.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on May 26, 2012, 03:57:49 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3krpaly5O1qgy1iqo1_500.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4mra0RFWy1qhro9go1_500.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 27, 2012, 05:06:56 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2z27wOqbR1qb5gkjo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 27, 2012, 05:23:22 am
I think that's the best use of Sarcastic Wonka yet.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on May 27, 2012, 12:53:48 pm
I approve of that condescending Wonka meme. Some one should post it all over down town.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 27, 2012, 01:31:26 pm
...is it Sarcastic Wonka or Condescending Wonka?  I've heard it both ways.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on May 27, 2012, 02:29:20 pm
Know Your Meme calls it Condescending Wonka (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/condescending-wonka-creepy-wonka).
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on May 27, 2012, 07:34:08 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/547421_4068336553780_1110413023_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: erictheblue on May 27, 2012, 09:57:19 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/547421_4068336553780_1110413023_n.jpg)

I would HAPPILY donate to that cause
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Saturn500 on May 27, 2012, 10:05:57 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/547421_4068336553780_1110413023_n.jpg)

I would HAPPILY donate to that cause

So would I, but my mom called donating to the Double Fine Adventure Kickstarter a waste of money, and then went right back to playing "games" made by Zynga, so I doubt she would let me donate to the noble cause of punching Glenn Beck in the face*. To be fair, she only wants me to donate to causes which directly benefit other humans (Smile Train, etc.), but the hypocrisy is just astounding.

*Doesn't help that she actually believes the paranoid bullcrap he spews.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: QueenofHearts on May 27, 2012, 11:19:56 pm
I would HAPPILY donate to that cause

I would pick this guy up and drive him to NYC myself. After buying him a case of beer for the cause.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Meshakhad on May 28, 2012, 03:10:56 am
And I'd hold the pads for him to better practice his punches.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on May 28, 2012, 03:22:58 am
Hmmm... that sounds like a ROAD TRIP!  Where is this valiant vagabond anyway?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on May 28, 2012, 09:37:50 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/149316_469859126373483_122256581133741_1747637_1565639936_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on May 30, 2012, 01:53:45 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/545790_472991392718254_471762704_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on May 30, 2012, 09:58:47 am
(http://cdn.front.moveon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/capitalism500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on May 31, 2012, 12:57:38 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4kgypNy5s1rt8sgdo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on May 31, 2012, 01:42:01 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4ukokCiZw1qcl9rvo1_400.jpg)

"I didn't come from your rib, you came from my uterus."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 02, 2012, 03:09:14 pm
I'm sure these are repeats but:
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2batbaPIv1qe4sr6o1_500.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2batbaPIv1qe4sr6o2_250.png)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2batbaPIv1qe4sr6o3_250.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2batbaPIv1qe4sr6o4_250.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2batbaPIv1qe4sr6o5_250.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2batbaPIv1qe4sr6o6_250.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2batbaPIv1qe4sr6o7_250.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on June 02, 2012, 04:54:52 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/kNQzO.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 02, 2012, 07:32:57 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m40yjeqvMV1qdt23mo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on June 02, 2012, 07:54:11 pm
I think I've seen that one before...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 02, 2012, 08:00:09 pm
If it's a repeat, apologies.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 03, 2012, 01:15:38 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2batbaPIv1qe4sr6o2_250.png)

Even better; force them not to rape.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Vypernight on June 03, 2012, 05:42:25 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2batbaPIv1qe4sr6o7_250.jpg)

I like this one.  All the people screaming that the gov't is taking their guns away (Are there any laws anywhere that actually say that?), but they also want the same go't to do away with the 'evil gays.'
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on June 03, 2012, 06:18:14 am
I'm sure these are repeats but:
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2batbaPIv1qe4sr6o2_250.png)

Hear, hear.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on June 03, 2012, 01:33:46 pm
(http://cdn.front.moveon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/i-dont-stand-MAIN.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 03, 2012, 01:54:59 pm
(http://cdn.front.moveon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/i-dont-stand-MAIN.jpg)

Fuck yeah!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Smurfette Principle on June 05, 2012, 11:05:27 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4wfje59QT1ql6jblo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on June 05, 2012, 11:51:39 am
^Christ-Followers!   
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on June 05, 2012, 02:47:51 pm
They'll be firebombed inside of a month, considering the mindset of folks down there...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on June 05, 2012, 06:16:53 pm
:( ... I hope not.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on June 05, 2012, 06:33:20 pm
I hate to say it Prog (and Shane, considering you're in the south too, along with anyone else down in that area), but... it does tend to happen in the bible-belt-ish states.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on June 05, 2012, 06:48:47 pm
I know, Priest.  Just sometimes I forget I'm more of an oddity down here than a normality.  At least there's enough folks to have formed a church.  I hope it lasts and doesn't get damaged in any way.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Vypernight on June 06, 2012, 05:56:07 am
I live in N Florida, which is the southern tip of the BB.  A nearby abortion clinic recently had to move after a lot of problems.  It was bad enough that the protestors would scream at nearly every person who entered the plaza, even when they weren't going to the clinic (We often went to the post office there).  But they also caused several accidents by distracting drivers and blocking their views with the signs.  At one point, I tried to pull out of the plaza when some old guy held his sign directly in front of my window so I couldn't see the road.  Two weeks later, they caused my wreck when they blocked the entrance.

Yeah, holier-than-thou assholes.   
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on June 06, 2012, 04:35:49 pm
Did you sue them?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 06, 2012, 07:38:50 pm
I hate to say it Prog (and Shane, considering you're in the south too, along with anyone else down in that area), but... it does tend to happen in the bible-belt-ish states.

I dunno there's a church around here that says similar stuff and they're fine...

Vocal minority, man.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on June 07, 2012, 02:35:12 am
Fair enough.  no offense meant.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on June 07, 2012, 02:46:06 am
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/z/L/4/occupy-wrong-street.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on June 07, 2012, 09:03:22 pm
(https://fbcdn_sphotos_g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/319733_10150838370460493_7292655492_9981712_1674253281_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on June 10, 2012, 12:35:59 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/180235_466782820013936_1859750249_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on June 10, 2012, 12:39:02 am
I live in N Florida, which is the southern tip of the BB.  A nearby abortion clinic recently had to move after a lot of problems.  It was bad enough that the protestors would scream at nearly every person who entered the plaza, even when they weren't going to the clinic (We often went to the post office there).  But they also caused several accidents by distracting drivers and blocking their views with the signs.  At one point, I tried to pull out of the plaza when some old guy held his sign directly in front of my window so I couldn't see the road.  Two weeks later, they caused my wreck when they blocked the entrance.

Yeah, holier-than-thou assholes.   

I'm pretty sure that there are federal laws that make this illegal. If you're obstructing the entrances, parking lots, or other facilities of an abortion clinic, then you're breaking the law.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on June 10, 2012, 07:29:19 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5c1qxGjgc1qfk1qeo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 10, 2012, 09:06:18 pm
I live in N Florida, which is the southern tip of the BB.  A nearby abortion clinic recently had to move after a lot of problems.  It was bad enough that the protestors would scream at nearly every person who entered the plaza, even when they weren't going to the clinic (We often went to the post office there).  But they also caused several accidents by distracting drivers and blocking their views with the signs.  At one point, I tried to pull out of the plaza when some old guy held his sign directly in front of my window so I couldn't see the road.  Two weeks later, they caused my wreck when they blocked the entrance.

Yeah, holier-than-thou assholes.   

I'm pretty sure that there are federal laws that make this illegal. If you're obstructing the entrances, parking lots, or other facilities of an abortion clinic, then you're breaking the law.

At the very least it's a traffic violation of some sort.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: erictheblue on June 10, 2012, 09:34:29 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5c1qxGjgc1qfk1qeo1_500.jpg)

I love it. This reminds me of a character concept I have for a Vampire:the Requiem LARP.

The character belongs to a bloodline that is androgynous. I wear a goatee, and think I look about 12 when clean shaven. My fiancee said if I end up playing this character, I should keep my facial hair and wear a dress.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 10, 2012, 09:46:25 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5c1qxGjgc1qfk1qeo1_500.jpg)

That seems photoshopped to me.  Is it?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Diamandahagan on June 10, 2012, 09:52:36 pm
Looks a bit like  a guy I know in England
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 11, 2012, 08:06:11 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1lkzvl82z1qg1nf3o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Her3tiK on June 11, 2012, 08:20:39 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1lkzvl82z1qg1nf3o1_500.jpg)
I'm going to need to steal this.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 11, 2012, 08:39:11 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1lkzvl82z1qg1nf3o1_500.jpg)

They'll only lose that war, however, if people actually vote
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on June 12, 2012, 02:00:32 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5h4uhNEF31qdszo9o1_500.jpg)

“Before you ask any stupid questions: I am from India and a Sikh, so please just pay for your purchase and have a good day.  NO B.S.”
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on June 12, 2012, 02:01:30 am
I love that guy.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Meshakhad on June 12, 2012, 12:30:00 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1lkzvl82z1qg1nf3o1_500.jpg)

Quote from: Rudyard Kipling
When the Himalayan peasant meets the he-bear in his pride,
He shouts to scare the monster, who will often turn aside.
But the she-bear thus accosted rends the peasant tooth and nail.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: booley on June 12, 2012, 02:56:30 pm
...
I love it. This reminds me of a character concept I have for a Vampire:the Requiem LARP.

The character belongs to a bloodline that is androgynous. I wear a goatee, and think I look about 12 when clean shaven. My fiancee said if I end up playing this character, I should keep my facial hair and wear a dress.

It's a galloi, isn't it?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on June 12, 2012, 03:15:16 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5h4uhNEF31qdszo9o1_500.jpg)

“Before you ask any stupid questions: I am from India and a Sikh, so please just pay for your purchase and have a good day.  NO B.S.”
I think there were some extremists who killed Sikhs cause they wear turbans therefore uneducated people thought they were Muslim
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on June 12, 2012, 03:17:37 pm
Sad irony is that not all Muslims wear turbans.  I like his sign.  No BS.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on June 12, 2012, 03:22:50 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5h4uhNEF31qdszo9o1_500.jpg)

“Before you ask any stupid questions: I am from India and a Sikh, so please just pay for your purchase and have a good day.  NO B.S.”
I think there were some extremists who killed Sikhs cause they wear turbans therefore uneducated people thought they were Muslim
They attacked Arabic Christians because they thought they were Muslim.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 12, 2012, 05:09:25 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5h4uhNEF31qdszo9o1_500.jpg)

“Before you ask any stupid questions: I am from India and a Sikh, so please just pay for your purchase and have a good day.  NO B.S.”
I think there were some extremists who killed Sikhs cause they wear turbans therefore uneducated people thought they were Muslim
They attacked Arabic Christians because they thought they were Muslim.

Specifically, Arabic Christians who came to protest the establishing of a "mosque" "near" Ground Zero.

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on June 12, 2012, 06:12:57 pm
I think there were some extremists who killed Sikhs cause they wear turbans therefore uneducated people thought they were Muslim
They attacked Arabic Christians because they thought they were Muslim.

Specifically, Arabic Christians who came to protest the establishing of a "mosque" "near" Ground Zero.

There’s something poetic about that, I think…
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: erictheblue on June 12, 2012, 06:26:26 pm
...
I love it. This reminds me of a character concept I have for a Vampire:the Requiem LARP.

The character belongs to a bloodline that is androgynous. I wear a goatee, and think I look about 12 when clean shaven. My fiancee said if I end up playing this character, I should keep my facial hair and wear a dress.

It's a galloi, isn't it?

Yes, though the character won't come into play until hard reset next summer.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on June 12, 2012, 09:41:01 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5h4uhNEF31qdszo9o1_500.jpg)

“Before you ask any stupid questions: I am from India and a Sikh, so please just pay for your purchase and have a good day.  NO B.S.”
I think there were some extremists who killed Sikhs cause they wear turbans therefore uneducated people thought they were Muslim
They attacked Arabic Christians because they thought they were Muslim.

Specifically, Arabic Christians who came to protest the establishing of a "mosque" "near" Ground Zero.

My understanding is that not only are there strip clubs closer to ground zero than the "mosque" but there was a mosque in the WTC!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 12, 2012, 10:50:02 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5h4uhNEF31qdszo9o1_500.jpg)

“Before you ask any stupid questions: I am from India and a Sikh, so please just pay for your purchase and have a good day.  NO B.S.”
I think there were some extremists who killed Sikhs cause they wear turbans therefore uneducated people thought they were Muslim
They attacked Arabic Christians because they thought they were Muslim.

Specifically, Arabic Christians who came to protest the establishing of a "mosque" "near" Ground Zero.

My understanding is that not only are there strip clubs closer to ground zero than the "mosque" but there was a mosque in the WTC!

It's true about the strip clubs, but I'm unsure about the mosque.  Not like it makes a lick of difference to the islamaphobes.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: e13 on June 12, 2012, 11:37:08 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5h4uhNEF31qdszo9o1_500.jpg)

“Before you ask any stupid questions: I am from India and a Sikh, so please just pay for your purchase and have a good day.  NO B.S.”
Honestly, he looks like a fun dude.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on June 13, 2012, 12:23:43 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5h4uhNEF31qdszo9o1_500.jpg)

“Before you ask any stupid questions: I am from India and a Sikh, so please just pay for your purchase and have a good day.  NO B.S.”
Honestly, he looks like a fun dude.
Sikh males actually have to carry a tiny dagger in the same way Muslim women need to wear the hijab so that does make them cool
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on June 13, 2012, 06:53:46 am
Sikh males actually have to carry a tiny dagger in the same way Muslim women need to wear the hijab so that does make them cool

Now I am trying to remember about that one case I heard about where they actually found some successful compromise for a Sikh boy to bring such a dagger to school with him without violating any of the school’s safety policies. But I can’t remember the details.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on June 13, 2012, 09:24:49 am
Sikh males actually have to carry a tiny dagger in the same way Muslim women need to wear the hijab so that does make them cool

Now I am trying to remember about that one case I heard about where they actually found some successful compromise for a Sikh boy to bring such a dagger to school with him without violating any of the school’s safety policies. But I can’t remember the details.

There are several such cases, I think it was either dagger shaped jewelry or a really, really small dagger which while technically a real dagger is so small that the school does not consider it to be a "weapon."

Now if only they would find a similar compromise with the headdress because Sikh police officers and soldiers put themselves in danger by not wearing a helmet.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kit Walker on June 13, 2012, 01:32:04 pm
Now if only they would find a similar compromise with the headdress because Sikh police officers and soldiers put themselves in danger by not wearing a helmet.

I have no idea what the actual Sikh rules about turbans are (do they have to be self wrapped? do they have to show outwardly?) but I'm a little surprised no one's marketing a "turban inside a helmet" (or vice versa) with a built in turban.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on June 13, 2012, 02:14:20 pm
Sikh males actually have to carry a tiny dagger in the same way Muslim women need to wear the hijab so that does make them cool

Now I am trying to remember about that one case I heard about where they actually found some successful compromise for a Sikh boy to bring such a dagger to school with him without violating any of the school’s safety policies. But I can’t remember the details.

Any religion that requires its members to carry a bladed weapon at all times is fucking badass by default.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on June 13, 2012, 03:34:26 pm
Here's a picture of the daggers.

(http://images.suite101.com/2759317_com_kirpan_wit.jpg)

(http://www.sikhnet.com/files/news/2010/March/khalsakirpan6.jpg)

Here are the necklace ones.

(http://www.wahid.fr/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/dague-dagger-sikh-miniature.JPG)

(http://dollsofindia.com/dollsofindiaimages/pendants/stone-studded-sikh-kripan-pendant-with-chain-CK52_l.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on June 13, 2012, 03:35:52 pm
Curious now how much issues those cause now in schools and planes with zero tolerance and all.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on June 13, 2012, 04:04:21 pm
Curious now how much issues those cause now in schools and planes with zero tolerance and all.

I think that bringing a physical knife to school is considered an issue due to safety concerns, but wearing a depiction of a knife in jewelry, like the one above, is allowed.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on June 13, 2012, 05:31:48 pm
And some schools do allow for religious exemption.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on June 13, 2012, 06:36:07 pm
There are several such cases, I think it was either dagger shaped jewelry or a really, really small dagger which while technically a real dagger is so small that the school does not consider it to be a "weapon."

Too small to be a weapon? I didn’t think there were any schools that reasonable.

Damn, I wish those folks were in charge when I was barred from the Obama rally in 2008 because I forgot that I had a tiny pocket knife on my keychain. How deluded would I have to be to try and start trouble with a half-inch blade while surrounded by a bunch of far more heavily armed security personnel?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 13, 2012, 07:06:49 pm
Didn't a student once get in trouble for having nail clippers?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kit Walker on June 13, 2012, 07:36:37 pm
Didn't a student once get in trouble for having nail clippers?

Almost definitely. With 98,817 (according to a quick and dirty google search) public schools in the USA, there are bound to be examples of almost every permutation of reasonable and unreasonable policy enforcement.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on June 13, 2012, 07:45:23 pm
Didn't a student once get in trouble for having nail clippers?

Almost definitely. With 98,817 (according to a quick and dirty google search) public schools in the USA, there are bound to be examples of almost every permutation of reasonable and unreasonable policy enforcement.
A kid got in trouble for a lego gun
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: KZN02 on June 14, 2012, 01:21:33 am
Didn't a student once get in trouble for having nail clippers?

Almost definitely. With 98,817 (according to a quick and dirty google search) public schools in the USA, there are bound to be examples of almost every permutation of reasonable and unreasonable policy enforcement.
A kid got in trouble for a lego gun
Well, BIONICLE sure packs the heat.

(http://biosector01.com/wiki/images/7/75/Zamor_Launcher_Function.jpg)
(http://biosector01.com/wiki/images/0/09/CordakBlaster.png)
(http://biosector01.com/wiki/images/7/76/Midak_Skyblaster.PNG)
(http://biosector01.com/wiki/images/8/8b/Thornax_Launcher.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on June 14, 2012, 01:44:44 am
(http://i.imgur.com/Oa7E0.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on June 14, 2012, 01:48:25 am
Didn't a student once get in trouble for having nail clippers?

Almost definitely. With 98,817 (according to a quick and dirty google search) public schools in the USA, there are bound to be examples of almost every permutation of reasonable and unreasonable policy enforcement.
A kid got in trouble for a lego gun
Well, BIONICLE sure packs the heat.

(http://biosector01.com/wiki/images/7/75/Zamor_Launcher_Function.jpg)
(http://biosector01.com/wiki/images/0/09/CordakBlaster.png)
(http://biosector01.com/wiki/images/7/76/Midak_Skyblaster.PNG)
(http://biosector01.com/wiki/images/8/8b/Thornax_Launcher.png)
Nostalgia coming back.  Part of the issue is well they might find a Shek suspicious and suspend him for the toy dagger since with zero tolerance policies they are so broad that anything unusual can be a violation.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on June 14, 2012, 04:23:23 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzuvrxkNfo1qilfa1o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Damen on June 15, 2012, 08:06:08 pm
Not really a protest sign, but still a protest demotivator and awesome.

(http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/1206/denial-lies-truth-belief-demotivational-posters-1339441176.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Her3tiK on June 15, 2012, 08:25:12 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzuvrxkNfo1qilfa1o1_500.jpg)
The one for what opponents think would be more accurate if it was coercion or murder. They don't seem to understand fetal development enough to know what's really going on.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on June 16, 2012, 03:39:39 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhtkmxvfTL1qfbvjdo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on June 16, 2012, 04:41:01 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhtkmxvfTL1qfbvjdo1_500.jpg)

Faith in humanity restored!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on June 16, 2012, 04:54:41 pm

Awesome.  Just plain awesome.  Some of my faith is also restored.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on June 18, 2012, 02:25:53 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5qftvc6n21rrravuo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 18, 2012, 02:36:07 am
Why is Comic Sans hated more than that font?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on June 18, 2012, 03:53:30 am
Why is Comic Sans hated more than that font?

Because Comic Sans is more widely used, and it looks like something your kindergarten teacher uses to send out newsletters to parents about the upcoming PTSA school canned food drive fundraiser. It's insipid and looks condescending.

That font is pretty shitty too, though. I'm happy I don't have it on my computer. It looks like the kind of font used for Tex-Mex restaurants trying to look "authentic," and seems to remind me of playgroups for toddlers and infants for some reason.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 18, 2012, 01:30:21 pm
Why is Comic Sans hated more than that font?

Because Comic Sans is more widely used, and it looks like something your kindergarten teacher uses to send out newsletters to parents about the upcoming PTSA school canned food drive fundraiser. It's insipid and looks condescending.

That font is pretty shitty too, though. I'm happy I don't have it on my computer. It looks like the kind of font used for Tex-Mex restaurants trying to look "authentic," and seems to remind me of playgroups for toddlers and infants for some reason.

I see that font far more often than I see Comic Sans.  I have never gotten the impression that it's a condescending font, more "casual" than anything.

Do I agree that it's been used inappropriately?  Sure.  So have many other fonts, but you don't hear NEARLY the outrage towards them as Comic Sans.

Papyrus for one...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on June 18, 2012, 06:17:34 pm
The Font of the Gods (http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2005/06/comic-sans-the-font-of-the-gods.html)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on June 18, 2012, 09:36:17 pm
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/380329_145946875529601_942301438_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on June 19, 2012, 12:47:50 pm
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/543296_452292308122830_68309980_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/205362_248934981883575_1569384172_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on June 19, 2012, 07:53:49 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5vvl7fG8r1rw85loo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Smurfette Principle on June 19, 2012, 11:01:16 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5ujm4vGEo1qzfz70o1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Saturn500 on June 21, 2012, 06:54:23 pm
(http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2010/10/30/16/enhanced-buzz-3178-1288470754-1.jpg)
(http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2010/10/30/17/enhanced-buzz-3275-1288473141-6.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on June 21, 2012, 07:47:58 pm
Quote
(http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2010/10/30/16/enhanced-buzz-3178-1288470754-1.jpg)

Oooh, and the guy's Welsh to boot.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 21, 2012, 09:25:08 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5zvqkRLkp1qe3zuzo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Auri-El on June 21, 2012, 09:33:31 pm
That is pretty sad, but does the Cold War really count? It wasn't really a war, I don't think. More of a 40-something year long impasse.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kit Walker on June 22, 2012, 02:54:12 am
That is pretty sad, but does the Cold War really count? It wasn't really a war, I don't think. More of a 40-something year long impasse.

Yeah, I don't think it is fair to count both the Cold War and all the individual conflicts that arose from it. And The Civil War & World War II, while certainly wars, weren't exactly comparable to 'Nam or Iraq. No war is "good", but some wars are necessary.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: chad sexington on June 22, 2012, 04:11:53 am
Erm... I might be behind the times, but what's Operation Freedom Falcon?  Libya?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 22, 2012, 04:23:05 am
That is pretty sad, but does the Cold War really count? It wasn't really a war, I don't think. More of a 40-something year long impasse.

Yeah, I don't think it is fair to count both the Cold War and all the individual conflicts that arose from it. And The Civil War & World War II, while certainly wars, weren't exactly comparable to 'Nam or Iraq. No war is "good", but some wars are necessary.

The sign isn't saying anything about necessary evil wars, tho.

Also the Cold War had skirmishes. But neither do you need to be sending troops off into battle for it to be a war.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rookie on June 22, 2012, 12:30:18 pm
Erm... I might be behind the times, but what's Operation Freedom Falcon?  Libya?

The Kosovo conflict.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DiscoBerry on June 22, 2012, 02:02:37 pm
Quote
(http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2010/10/30/16/enhanced-buzz-3178-1288470754-1.jpg)

Oooh, and the guy's Welsh to boot.

I was just think of what a Bagger would say, "Oh well, he is not a real American, he likes a hippy sport- Rugby."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 22, 2012, 04:36:32 pm
Also the Cold War had skirmishes. But neither do you need to be sending troops off into battle for it to be a war.

By that standard, Britain and the Netherlands were at war for 350 years.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on June 22, 2012, 06:27:15 pm

Oooh, and the guy's Welsh to boot.

I was just think of what a Bagger would say, "Oh well, he is not a real American, he likes a hippy sport- Rugby."

And the other baggers would be all, “Rug-what?”
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 22, 2012, 06:36:51 pm

Oooh, and the guy's Welsh to boot.

I was just think of what a Bagger would say, "Oh well, he is not a real American, he likes a hippy sport- Rugby."

And the other baggers would be all, “Rug-what?”

Calling Rugby a hippie sport is like calling lumberjacking a hippie job.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheL on June 22, 2012, 06:46:36 pm

Oooh, and the guy's Welsh to boot.

I was just think of what a Bagger would say, "Oh well, he is not a real American, he likes a hippy sport- Rugby."

And the other baggers would be all, “Rug-what?”

Calling Rugby a hippie sport is like calling lumberjacking a hippie job.

But no matter what you think of them, lumberjacks are OK.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on June 22, 2012, 06:53:01 pm
They sleep all night and they work all day.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 22, 2012, 07:02:44 pm
They sleep all night and they work all day.
They wear women's clothing and hang around in... bars?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on June 22, 2012, 07:07:22 pm
All of your deaths.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on June 23, 2012, 01:40:38 am
All of your deaths.

Hey you didn't sign that. Anyway back to song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiVOG199X2c
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on June 23, 2012, 02:24:27 am
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5y3idQ95O1qcz175.jpg)

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5y3ir7uTf1qcz175.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 23, 2012, 09:11:47 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyzkygk4mP1r6nnf9o1_400.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on June 23, 2012, 09:52:37 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s480x480/401798_426770100687891_1835119661_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: sandman on June 24, 2012, 02:26:39 pm
Cute dog, but I can't stand it when people don't know the difference between "effect" and "affect." It just makes them look stupid.

(http://www.qdnow.com/aardvark.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on June 24, 2012, 02:36:22 pm
Well, it is just a dog  ::).
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: sandman on June 24, 2012, 03:38:35 pm
Did you hear about the narcoleptic dyslexic agnostic insomniac who sat up all night wondering if there was or was not a dog? Then he fell asleep driving to work.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on June 24, 2012, 03:40:40 pm
LOL!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Diamandahagan on June 24, 2012, 04:00:50 pm
Are those the Christians who's leader couldn't bring himself to say that being gay isn't a sin?

If so, I wonder how low their opinion of LGBT people is. That they think they'd accept people who dress their hate with happy language as friends.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 24, 2012, 04:04:16 pm
Or, maybe they think different from their leader.  Its happened plenty of times before in history, no reason that can't be the case now.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Smurfette Principle on June 25, 2012, 08:18:32 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m66a1ghZuN1qgu9k8o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on June 25, 2012, 10:53:20 am
 ^A-frikkin-men.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 25, 2012, 05:42:57 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m66zyu0dvV1qzs6yjo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on June 25, 2012, 07:12:23 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m66a1ghZuN1qgu9k8o1_500.jpg)

Oh, but don’t you know? They’re too big to fail. We cut them off, and the whole world will end.    ::)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on June 26, 2012, 03:56:43 pm
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/548635_10150905183251275_1838576976_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kit Walker on June 26, 2012, 06:42:35 pm
Personally, I think its a little sad when South Africa beats us on an equal rights issue.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on June 26, 2012, 10:57:25 pm
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb338/P-3a/wagegapbyraceandgender.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 27, 2012, 02:35:01 am
I don't get it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 27, 2012, 03:28:19 am
It's percentages disguised as dollar bills.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on June 27, 2012, 06:53:19 am
So, if I am reading that right, there is one place where white males are not on top. Interesting, if true.

(Yeah, the rest of it is pretty terrible, but not surprising at all.)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 27, 2012, 06:54:57 am
So, if I am reading that right, there is one place where white males are not on top. Interesting, if true.

(Yeah, the rest of it is pretty terrible, but not surprising at all.)

...Most likely in places like Hawaii and California, if we're thinking about only the US.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Distind on June 27, 2012, 08:54:16 am
So, if I am reading that right, there is one place where white males are not on top. Interesting, if true.

(Yeah, the rest of it is pretty terrible, but not surprising at all.)
I'm amused that white male has apparently become a unit of measurement in this. Also annoyed with it due to some of the implications, but hey.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on June 27, 2012, 11:47:23 am
Numbers plox.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on June 27, 2012, 01:12:09 pm
So, if I am reading that right, there is one place where white males are not on top. Interesting, if true.

(Yeah, the rest of it is pretty terrible, but not surprising at all.)

Well if you broke down Asian into three group, Southeast Asian men wouldn't be making more than white men. The highness of the Asian pay bracket is due partly by the fact that South and East Asians generally immigrate with more wealth and assets and also due to stereotypes of Asians.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: davedan on June 27, 2012, 07:10:15 pm
Gyeonghawa,

So you would break Asian into 3 categories? Like Subcontinental (Indian, Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Sri Lankan etc) - East Asian (Chinese, Korean Japanese), South east asian (Vietnamese, Khmer, Hmong, Indonesian, Malay etc)?

If you were going to do that you could probably break up white and black more then too?

I was going to make a penis joke, but I wont.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on June 27, 2012, 08:33:29 pm
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4z1pm-em8u0/T8bT65bi7vI/AAAAAAAAldI/OqR31EARizA/s1600/exgay_changeorg_x400.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on June 29, 2012, 01:05:47 am
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/553670_356345771103138_1324044227_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on July 04, 2012, 08:33:24 pm
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/552332_440794575943248_1843972964_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DiscoBerry on July 04, 2012, 08:36:40 pm
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/552332_440794575943248_1843972964_n.jpg)

Its funny that the people that would hate this bumper-sticker the most probably have a tax rate of say 23% then weasel their way down to 10 or 12 percent and still whine about it. 
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on July 04, 2012, 10:11:52 pm
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6172/6202449160_a2da0020e5_z.jpg)
All the more reason to love girls who wear lolita.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on July 04, 2012, 11:20:44 pm
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/487967_496959276988132_533118436_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on July 05, 2012, 12:13:20 am
^Yeah... that would be nice.  Too bad it'll never happen as long as the two religions are so at each-other's throats.  Not to mention the land disputes. 
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on July 05, 2012, 12:45:30 pm
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/255584_426739604023036_1285482506_n.jpg)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m26kbx7gNJ1rpdp04o3_500.jpg)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2g6i08K3b1rtcur5o1_1280.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6lnh1SNSM1rzu54oo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on July 05, 2012, 06:02:13 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s480x480/544650_427966477248279_1494110265_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: davedan on July 05, 2012, 08:32:44 pm
What is intersectionality? and why is it not optional?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on July 05, 2012, 09:00:51 pm
What is intersectionality? and why is it not optional?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality

tl;dr

When you acknowledge how sexism, racism, heterosexism, transmisogyny, ablism, and classism intersect each other. It's not optional because all these forms of oppression overlap each other and to only focus on sexism without taking to account how sexism plays into racism erases people's experiences. One of the real criticism of mainstream feminism is that it caters to cis straight able-bodied middle class white women while ignoring disabled women, very poor women, queer women, women of color, and transwomen. For these reason, intersectional feminism came into being to address all these issue.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Morgenleoht on July 05, 2012, 10:06:52 pm
What is intersectionality? and why is it not optional?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality

tl;dr

When you acknowledge how sexism, racism, heterosexism, transmisogyny, ablism, and classism intersect each other. It's not optional because all these forms of oppression overlap each other and to only focus on sexism without taking to account how sexism plays into racism erases people's experiences. One of the real criticism of mainstream feminism is that it caters to cis straight able-bodied middle class white women while ignoring disabled women, very poor women, queer women, women of color, and transwomen. For these reason, intersectional feminism came into being to address all these issue.

THIS!

I come under poor, queer and disabled woman. Can make for fun times. :P
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: JohnE on July 06, 2012, 12:28:55 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s480x480/544650_427966477248279_1494110265_n.jpg)
I don't like this, because a church shouldn't be getting involved in politics, even if it's for our side.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: e13 on July 06, 2012, 09:45:07 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s480x480/544650_427966477248279_1494110265_n.jpg)
I don't like this, because a church shouldn't be getting involved in politics, even if it's for our side.
I don't even know why the churches are non-profit. They're involved regularly in politics now, and it doesn't help when politicians won't shut the fuck up about God, gawd, Angry Sky-Daddy, whatever.

You want a voice in politics? Pay some fucking taxes.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on July 06, 2012, 09:49:10 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s480x480/544650_427966477248279_1494110265_n.jpg)
I don't like this, because a church shouldn't be getting involved in politics, even if it's for our side.
I don't even know why the churches are non-profit. They're involved regularly in politics now, and it doesn't help when politicians won't shut the fuck up about God, gawd, Angry Sky-Daddy, whatever.

You want a voice in politics? Pay some fucking taxes.
True.  Honestly that church and some of these mega churches seem to forget that your tax exempt status cant involve directly telling people how to vote
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 06, 2012, 05:54:32 pm
Perhaps they want to lose their tax exempt status?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Bezron on July 06, 2012, 09:46:03 pm
Perhaps they want to lose their tax exempt status?

That would involve the government actually auditing them...never happen
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on July 07, 2012, 12:52:02 am
More of a response to a sign and this is Madoka spoilers  but 
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on July 07, 2012, 10:52:02 am
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/255293_10150935711703520_658223799_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/295424_389652994427912_1013696833_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/539657_498100143540712_596493508_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kit Walker on July 07, 2012, 12:43:31 pm
...I don't like the last one. Wall Street's denizens have caused a lot of problems in the last decade or so, but Wall Street is still the heart of our economy. A slogan like "Tear down this Wall" isn't particularly helpful, in my opinion, because it doesn't express what action is really needed - regulation. I, personally, don't give a flying fuck if someone is making millions of dollars a year trading stocks and commodities and doing other financial paper transactions I don't understand. All I care is that they're doing it in a way that can't crash the world economy again.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on July 07, 2012, 10:17:29 pm
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/s480x480/602602_419441058108428_1822845404_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on July 07, 2012, 11:03:56 pm
It's mothers like that that make me have hope.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: erictheblue on July 08, 2012, 11:29:56 am
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/s480x480/602602_419441058108428_1822845404_n.jpg)

I just felt a tear in my eye. That is so sweet
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on July 08, 2012, 07:11:06 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3irrwYlIk1qjmltxo1_500.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6lkmnEOPx1qzbjjjo1_500.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6t51hb8qH1r48ls3o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: KZN02 on July 09, 2012, 02:20:50 am
More of a response to a sign and this is Madoka spoilers  but 
(click to show/hide)
I don't know much of the series, so should I ask or look for myself?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 09, 2012, 02:42:28 am
You would probably be better off looking yourself, namely because the show is just...

...I cannot say for that would be inherently spoiling.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Id82 on July 09, 2012, 03:00:39 am
Is that chic filet sign for real?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: chad sexington on July 09, 2012, 03:03:07 am
They do fund anti-gay campaigns, but I think that's a protest sign.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Smurfette Principle on July 09, 2012, 11:27:52 am
From a queer friend who works at Chik-Fil-A: don't boycott individual establishments just because the conglomerate is anti-gay. Individual places can be really nice and driving them out of business accomplishes nothing. If you have stock in Chik-Fil-A, sure, that actually makes a difference, but most people don't.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on July 09, 2012, 11:47:23 am
More of a response to a sign and this is Madoka spoilers  but 
(click to show/hide)
I don't know much of the series, so should I ask or look for myself?

I highly suggest the series.  It's a magical girl anime that isn't shy about offing main characters in VERY nasty ways...

Think Sailor Moon crossed with Serial Experiments Lain.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on July 09, 2012, 12:31:19 pm
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/581962_415797208473185_75124388_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kit Walker on July 09, 2012, 02:09:33 pm
Not for nothing,  but I doubt that the baby actually has an opinion on the issues at hand.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on July 09, 2012, 02:59:49 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6lkmnEOPx1qzbjjjo1_500.jpg)


Was this done by Chic-fil-a workers?

Not for nothing,  but I doubt that the baby actually has an opinion on the issues at hand.

It would be useful if they actually said the issue. Otherwise their signs seem pretty useless.

https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/295353_10150928803381275_297708051_n.jpg
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on July 09, 2012, 10:36:40 pm
It would be useful if they actually said the issue. Otherwise their signs seem pretty useless.

I would imagine that the point of whatever protest they are attending is clear enough.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on July 09, 2012, 10:51:10 pm
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/561384_484149188277299_363685696_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on July 09, 2012, 11:31:01 pm
Butterflies just set that one right off.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 11, 2012, 08:51:09 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6lkmnEOPx1qzbjjjo1_500.jpg)


Was this done by Chic-fil-a workers?


Only if they're self-hating. People against marriage equality don't necessarily use that phrase.

and I think I posted this before but it bears repeating:

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1qen0h6661qb89fvo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on July 12, 2012, 12:15:16 am
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRHegvzFDc1y2qyv_XEWw7AuiLMn_4YmSRomqEX8UxvOC2Xlqe9Rfkkwy8EhA)

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on July 12, 2012, 08:42:49 am
When people mention the Kardashians, I immediately think of the race on Star Trek.   I am a geek. :0
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Random Gal on July 12, 2012, 01:23:05 pm
When people mention the Kardashians, I immediately think of the race on Star Trek.   I am a geek. :0

Yeah, I always think "Cardassians" too.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on July 12, 2012, 02:14:40 pm
Why are they even famous anyway? Isn't it because one of them was in a sex tape or something? I hate these people that are famous for being famous.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on July 12, 2012, 02:19:08 pm
Today on "Keeping up with the Cardassians..."

"How many lights are there?"
"(pained) ... F... Four!"
ZAAAAAAAAAAP!
"Now how many lights are there?"

Will Captain Picard ever figure out there's NOT four lights (but there is)?

Stay tuned!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Meshakhad on July 12, 2012, 02:46:30 pm
I've stopped believing in the Kardashians.

(http://i.imgur.com/6L7Cj.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 12, 2012, 05:59:21 pm
Those fucking Cardassians...always knew it was them.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 12, 2012, 07:55:37 pm
Those fucking Cardassians...always knew it was them.

leik omg star trak is jus a plaguerism.  i meen, tey riped of te Kardashians, an al.  so unorijinall
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on July 12, 2012, 08:05:44 pm
When people mention the Kardashians, I immediately think of the race on Star Trek.   I am a geek. :0

Yeah, I always think "Cardassians" too.

This is why I had no idea what anyone was talking about the first time I heard about the Kardashians. When it comes to that kind of stuff, I’m always late to the party (and I really prefer it that way), so I initially hear about it in a context where the folks talking about it assume I’m already in the know.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on July 12, 2012, 11:19:54 pm
Why are they even famous anyway? Isn't it because one of them was in a sex tape or something? I hate these people that are famous for being famous.

Essentially what you just said, it proves how some people will give a shit about the most stupid shit. It's the main reason why I can't stand those so called "entertainment shows".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Bezron on July 13, 2012, 06:41:23 am
Why are they even famous anyway? Isn't it because one of them was in a sex tape or something? I hate these people that are famous for being famous.

Essentially what you just said, it proves how some people will give a shit about the most stupid shit. It's the main reason why I can't stand those so called "entertainment shows".

And apparently, it wasn't even a good sex tape.  From what I have heard (I want to stress that I have not watched it) it has something like 5 minutes of very vanilla sex in a 45 minute video and the whole thing looks extremely staged.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on July 13, 2012, 12:11:30 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/524008_400802796633655_1192286902_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on July 14, 2012, 02:02:47 pm
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/553920_10150918320046430_1718560350_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on July 14, 2012, 02:21:36 pm
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/553920_10150918320046430_1718560350_n.jpg)

That makes me smile so damn hard <3
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on July 15, 2012, 12:21:15 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/487761_10151034700424551_2111133910_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Auri-El on July 15, 2012, 01:54:34 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/599846_474628432548702_1253597660_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Igor on July 15, 2012, 02:03:45 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/599846_474628432548702_1253597660_n.jpg)
allofmyd'aww.jpg
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on July 15, 2012, 05:51:15 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/541636_10150943944211275_1529457285_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on July 15, 2012, 06:40:38 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/599509_10151112203792502_245713541_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on July 15, 2012, 07:02:27 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/599846_474628432548702_1253597660_n.jpg)

Always have been around and always WILL be around.

Rock on, grannies. 
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on July 16, 2012, 02:48:41 am
Hmmm sound like anyone we know????
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/391220_495792957114023_223883578_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sylvana on July 17, 2012, 02:37:50 am
Hmmm sound like anyone we know????
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/391220_495792957114023_223883578_n.jpg)

A fair number of democracies around the world?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: A Pedant on July 17, 2012, 06:22:02 am
(http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/images/localpeople/ugc-images/275775/Gallery/images/16536026/3966158-promo.png)

Context for those who may not have heard of them; the English Defence League is a purportedly anti-muslim organisation who are definately not neo-fascist pricks, no sir, not them, oh those photos, no they were just waving at seagulls, definately not a nazi salute, the swastika tattoos? is that a swastika? they hadn't noticed.  Their signs say things I agree with (anti-FGM, Islam oppresses women, anti-sharia law) but their words, violent actions (they formed from Casuals United, a soccer hooligan group) and facebook profiles full of nazi salutes and swastika flags show thoughts I disagree with.  Their definition of Muslim is Asian, with the result that they often attack sikhs, hindus, buddists and atheists and their membership is entirely white (they claim to have black and asian members, but I was up close taking pictures of their demo and didn't see a single non-white face).
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on July 22, 2012, 11:38:58 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/557275_365686266835755_1146387770_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on July 23, 2012, 12:21:05 am
Yeah.  Ironic, isn't it? 
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 23, 2012, 01:10:24 am
Hmmm sound like anyone we know????
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/391220_495792957114023_223883578_n.jpg)

Early warning signs of fascism- anything bad.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Mechtaur on July 23, 2012, 02:08:54 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/557275_365686266835755_1146387770_n.jpg)

Considering it took a war to make slavery illegal in the land of the free...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Smurfette Principle on July 23, 2012, 03:03:30 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m74yb4fEY11qjo9duo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on July 23, 2012, 06:47:31 pm
Technically, he is still 6 million shy of a proper doubling. :P
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rookie on July 23, 2012, 07:20:27 pm
Technically, he is still 6 million shy of a proper doubling. :P

Give the markets a good solid week.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on July 23, 2012, 07:43:55 pm
Technically, he is still 6 million shy of a proper doubling. :P

Give the markets a good solid week.

Okay. I’ll check back in August, then.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on July 25, 2012, 01:43:29 am
(http://i.imgur.com/2aOuj.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Auri-El on July 25, 2012, 09:33:50 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/483898_510073185685410_1586904461_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on July 28, 2012, 07:25:51 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/s480x480/179180_501063696585729_160894224_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Auri-El on July 28, 2012, 10:05:37 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/558327_510679365624792_1206071276_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on July 28, 2012, 11:22:36 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/382335_10150378873231275_480698337_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Delirium on July 28, 2012, 11:24:25 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly08d995BY1qaobbko1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Juna Starrider on July 29, 2012, 07:20:19 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly08d995BY1qaobbko1_500.jpg)

Dumb question from one who has only read the first four books:  Who pays for kids to go to Hogwarts?  Ministry of Magic?  Parents?  Blend of both?  Never explained?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Bezron on July 29, 2012, 09:18:22 am
I don't think it was ever actually addressed.  Harry, however was fairly independently wealthy (had his own vault at Gringott's)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on July 29, 2012, 10:07:26 am
The Wizarding World has it's own economy that isn't at all connected to our own.  IIRC, most wizards are kinda amused at our money system.

Ironbite-among other things.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: starseeker on July 29, 2012, 11:21:05 am
Though the books do mention exchanging muggle money for wizard money at Gringotts.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: N. De Plume on July 29, 2012, 12:27:05 pm
They are not a money-less society.

I remember hearing that Rowling addressed the tuition issue in a Q&A. I don’t particularly recall what the setup was supposed to be, so I can’t say much more than that.

And then, of course, there is the issue of how canonical you can take things that didn’t actually appear in the work. Though the Potter fandom does seem to take most of what Rowling says as canon.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on July 29, 2012, 10:55:56 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/534866_364285850310920_534920012_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Smurfette Principle on July 30, 2012, 10:31:11 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5mgebFsgN1r42s8uo1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 30, 2012, 11:55:21 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6qx45DsCQ1r8aceao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kit Walker on July 30, 2012, 12:28:48 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6qx45DsCQ1r8aceao1_500.jpg)

Because, while the minimum wage theoretically prevents employers from paying their employees less than they could live off of, a maximum wage would be completely arbitrary?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on July 30, 2012, 01:20:09 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ENi_gmcHjA
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/486906_463349280350058_1859499737_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on July 31, 2012, 03:16:05 am
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/417462_427415427310991_58391641_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 31, 2012, 03:29:33 am
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/417462_427415427310991_58391641_n.jpg)

I damn near broke out into applause after reading that.

Unfortunately, tea baggers are too dense to ever learn anything from a reasoned post like that.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 31, 2012, 04:23:22 am
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/417462_427415427310991_58391641_n.jpg)

Someone, give this person a fucking cake, stat!  Or a beer.  Or a stripper.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 31, 2012, 06:43:09 am
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/417462_427415427310991_58391641_n.jpg)

Someone, give this person a fucking cake, stat!  Or a beer.  Or a stripper.

Or a cake with a stripper inside who lactates beer.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Bezron on July 31, 2012, 06:59:13 am
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/417462_427415427310991_58391641_n.jpg)

Sadly, although the facts are spot on, the Tea Party will scream about the fact that they used profanity and point to how hostile the libruls are.  Meaning that all of the truefax will be lost in the bawww'ing
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Distind on July 31, 2012, 08:37:10 am
Sadly, although the facts are spot on, the Tea Party will scream about the fact that they used profanity and point to how hostile the libruls are.  Meaning that all of the truefax will be lost in the bawww'ing
That said, companies may be entitled to a tax refund if they over pay their proper tax rates. It's the deductions and subsidies we should be more concerned with. The less legitimate ways they have of securing larger refunds.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Bezron on July 31, 2012, 10:22:05 am
Sadly, although the facts are spot on, the Tea Party will scream about the fact that they used profanity and point to how hostile the libruls are.  Meaning that all of the truefax will be lost in the bawww'ing
That said, companies may be entitled to a tax refund if they over pay their proper tax rates. It's the deductions and subsidies we should be more concerned with. The less legitimate ways they have of securing larger refunds.

Agreed.  People tend to forget that, much in the same way you pay your taxes with each paycheck, corporations pay out taxes on a monthly or quarterly basis.  The overall taxes paid vs taxes owed are then "trued up" at the end of the fiscal (the same way as the average citizen filing for a return/paying additional taxes).  Most companies end up overpaying due to slow/hig periods and thus get money back.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TigerHunter on July 31, 2012, 07:52:12 pm
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/417462_427415427310991_58391641_n.jpg)
I may have to steal that rant the next time I get into an argument about welfare.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on July 31, 2012, 10:55:08 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/391400_10150956156481275_1157728116_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on August 01, 2012, 12:09:37 am
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/524139_397869700281010_1993466193_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on August 02, 2012, 10:09:46 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/KLXpG.jpg)
heartbreaking - but - good for you Kyle.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Smurfette Principle on August 04, 2012, 05:00:58 pm
That guy is a hero.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DiscoBerry on August 04, 2012, 06:02:33 pm
Lol, he used to date my friend Virginia, ad I know its the same guy because I saw his Facebook post right after he did it.  Small world er...Internet.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 05, 2012, 05:04:12 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp24m2CdjG1qjz6tso1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on August 05, 2012, 03:14:10 pm
(http://cdn.front.moveon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/GH1.jpg)

(http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww9/Phoebe_Guillen_photos/agnostic1.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Smurfette Principle on August 05, 2012, 03:27:52 pm
(http://cdn.front.moveon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/GH1.jpg)

Ohmygawd Karen you can't just ask people why they're against universal health care!!1!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on August 05, 2012, 07:27:13 pm
(http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww9/Phoebe_Guillen_photos/agnostic1.jpg)

An agnostic is an atheist who doesn't understand the burden of proof.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Distind on August 05, 2012, 07:40:36 pm
(http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww9/Phoebe_Guillen_photos/agnostic1.jpg)
I may start circulating a version of this with:
But I am enough of a self righteous prick to write something like this.

Tacked onto the end of it. In fact I may start doing that to a lot of images.

I could go on about how wrong it is on both ends, but that'd defeat the purpose.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: VirtualStranger on August 05, 2012, 08:00:10 pm
http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww9/Phoebe_Guillen_photos/agnostic1.jpg (http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww9/Phoebe_Guillen_photos/agnostic1.jpg)

An agnostic is an atheist who doesn't understand the burden of proof.

(http://i.imgur.com/Opxqw.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on August 05, 2012, 10:38:30 pm
What do you call someone middle left?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on August 05, 2012, 10:41:01 pm
http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww9/Phoebe_Guillen_photos/agnostic1.jpg (http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww9/Phoebe_Guillen_photos/agnostic1.jpg)

An agnostic is an atheist who doesn't understand the burden of proof.

(http://i.imgur.com/Opxqw.png)
What is the difference between a Gnostic and a Theist?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 06, 2012, 07:39:38 am
(http://cdn.front.moveon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/GH1.jpg)

Ohmygawd Karen you can't just ask people why they're against universal health care!!1!

*dies laughing*
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Yla on August 06, 2012, 07:49:12 am
(http://i.imgur.com/Opxqw.png)
What is the difference between a Gnostic and a Theist?
A Theist believes in (a) god/s, while an atheist believes that there isn't. An Agnostic professes that they have not/cannot have definite knowledge, while a Gnostic claims to know (as opposed of just believe) whether there is/isn't (a) god/s.

Gnostic also often refers to a specific flavor of Christianity, so don't mix these two definitions up.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 06, 2012, 02:38:09 pm
I hate it when the same word can have multiple meanings even in the same context =_=
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Saturn500 on August 06, 2012, 03:54:13 pm
(http://mormongags.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/node-gallery-display/Condemning_Homosexuality.JPG)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Quasirodent on August 06, 2012, 10:54:22 pm
(http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww9/Phoebe_Guillen_photos/agnostic1.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Opxqw.png)
What is the difference between a Gnostic and a Theist?
A Theist believes in (a) god/s, while an atheist believes that there isn't. An Agnostic professes that they have not/cannot have definite knowledge, while a Gnostic claims to know (as opposed of just believe) whether there is/isn't (a) god/s.

Gnostic also often refers to a specific flavor of Christianity, so don't mix these two definitions up.

I'd just like to point out that in its basic form, Atheism is agnostic and Atheists do not believe anything about God(s).  So statements about believing that there isn't' a god, or believing that there is nothing out there beyond our ability to scrutinize scientifically, those are faith-based statements and not true of basic Atheism. 

Once you say 'I know there is no God', you become Anti-Theist, which is a gnostic position, and as scientifically unsound as saying 'I know there is a God'. (Anti-Theism may count as a form of Atheism, since Anti-Theists also do not have any Gods.)

Addendum: That is not to say that Atheists cannot also have faith-based beliefs, be gnostic, anti-theist, spiritual, or any other thing on the scale.  Just that the very simplest, strictly literal form of it is a lack of belief in God, rather than a denial of existence of God.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: syaoranvee on August 07, 2012, 12:20:24 am
Some people tend to use the Spectrum of theistic probability (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrum_of_theistic_probability)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on August 07, 2012, 01:01:41 am
Going by that, I'm probably De Facto Theist.  I think I've been all over that scale though... barring the 100% "I know" types.   You (General you) know HOW?  Never be THAT sure about anything in life, cuz it's a weird Universe.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on August 07, 2012, 02:27:16 am
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/557000_403201329740061_1610353173_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/418250_328856087208032_924660389_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on August 07, 2012, 11:40:33 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/306413_508884632470331_917498574_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: erictheblue on August 08, 2012, 09:02:28 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/306413_508884632470331_917498574_n.jpg)

The guy in that picture looks almost exactly like a good friend of mine. The beard is wrong, but otherwise it could be him
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on August 08, 2012, 07:02:16 pm
From a Ugandan Pride parade
(http://www.advocate.com/sites/advocate.com/files/imce/uploadedimages/pride-425-drobinson2012.jpg)
more photos and an article
 http://www.advocate.com/arts-entertainment/commentary/2012/08/08/see-photos-ugandans-both-proud-and-brave?page=0,0 (http://www.advocate.com/arts-entertainment/commentary/2012/08/08/see-photos-ugandans-both-proud-and-brave?page=0,0)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on August 08, 2012, 07:40:25 pm
Those people are brave as hell, considering where they are. 
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kain on August 09, 2012, 01:12:40 am
From a Ugandan Pride parade
(http://www.advocate.com/sites/advocate.com/files/imce/uploadedimages/pride-425-drobinson2012.jpg)
more photos and an article
 http://www.advocate.com/arts-entertainment/commentary/2012/08/08/see-photos-ugandans-both-proud-and-brave?page=0,0 (http://www.advocate.com/arts-entertainment/commentary/2012/08/08/see-photos-ugandans-both-proud-and-brave?page=0,0)

...Damn, those people are hardcore.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on August 11, 2012, 12:47:37 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/557285_355142094579683_129762016_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on August 11, 2012, 01:52:09 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8cbfxvhW01rr5qu7o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 11, 2012, 11:23:58 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8hw5hiun51rt8sgdo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on August 11, 2012, 12:42:41 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/557285_355142094579683_129762016_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/312906_508451162515486_1302467894_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on August 11, 2012, 09:41:18 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/625484_10150997057241275_286583591_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 11, 2012, 09:50:44 pm
Hmm...that begs the question, would a person who's been fed nothing but the most top-class of foods taste good?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 11, 2012, 10:39:26 pm
Hmm...that begs the question, would a person who's been fed nothing but the most top-class of foods taste good?

...

God dammit, now you got me wondering.  And I hate cannibalism.

God.  Damn.  You.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: agentCDE on August 12, 2012, 01:06:48 am
Hmm...that begs the question, would a person who's been fed nothing but the most top-class of foods taste good?

Well, hey, you know what they say - you are what you eat.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Veras on August 12, 2012, 01:28:43 am
Hmm...that begs the question, would a person who's been fed nothing but the most top-class of foods taste good?

Well, hey, you know what they say - you are what you eat.

Or in this case, you eat what you are.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 12, 2012, 02:54:54 am
Hmm...that begs the question, would a person who's been fed nothing but the most top-class of foods taste good?

Well, hey, you know what they say - you are what you eat.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51964BJ1M2L.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on August 12, 2012, 03:13:58 am
This is making me more hungry than it really should, I must admit.

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 12, 2012, 07:42:26 am
I don't know any of you.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on August 12, 2012, 01:33:57 pm
*Makes Hannibal Lecter slurping sound*
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RinellaWasHere on August 12, 2012, 02:21:44 pm
"A NASCAR driver tried to test me once. I ate his liver with pork rinds and some sweet tea."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on August 12, 2012, 02:43:54 pm
"MMM! That's good eatin'!"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 12, 2012, 05:37:36 pm
This is making me more hungry than it really should, I must admit.



If just the DVD cover art makes you hungry, then the movie would probably leave you starving.  Ravenous always makes me hungry.

Ya know, I think I might have some problems.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rookie on August 12, 2012, 06:40:48 pm
Hmm...that begs the question, would a person who's been fed nothing but the most top-class of foods taste good?

According to Steven Tyler, the attitude may taste like shit, but goes real good with wine.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on August 12, 2012, 11:36:21 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/558311_416169271782484_837487998_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: JohnE on August 12, 2012, 11:40:56 pm
"Homoasshole" is a little misleading though.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Veras on August 13, 2012, 11:14:50 am
It's not so bad if you use the Greek.

Homopapara.

Of course, that just means similar/same asshole, so maybe it still doesn't work.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on August 14, 2012, 01:00:59 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/319432_509788195714499_1479950118_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on August 14, 2012, 02:00:46 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/427445_510711562289446_769317258_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Quasirodent on August 14, 2012, 07:38:10 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/558311_416169271782484_837487998_n.jpg)
I disagree with this.  I am of the strong conviction that homophobia is always rooted in fear.  Mostly, fear that the occasional twinge of bi-curiosity felt by the average man means he's being 'tempted' by homos/Satan/Liberals/Elton John/whatever.  The logical response to getting that tingle in his dingle is turning into an asshat, of course.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Igor on August 14, 2012, 08:09:45 pm
The logical response to getting that tingle in his dingle is turning into an asshat, of course.
sig'd
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on August 14, 2012, 08:59:38 pm
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/484431_490235574338022_1132796326_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on August 14, 2012, 10:29:45 pm
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/484431_490235574338022_1132796326_n.jpg)

When you see it you'll shit bricks...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Veras on August 15, 2012, 01:45:55 am
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/484431_490235574338022_1132796326_n.jpg)

When you see it you'll shit bricks...

The V mask?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on August 15, 2012, 02:41:39 am
I think it fits purrrrfectly.   Meow.

Yes, I'm a little high.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Quasirodent on August 15, 2012, 12:52:11 pm
The logical response to getting that tingle in his dingle is turning into an asshat, of course.
sig'd

<3 :D
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: KZN02 on August 15, 2012, 05:17:30 pm
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/484431_490235574338022_1132796326_n.jpg)

When you see it you'll shit bricks...
What's funny is that I just noticed it before I was about to read your comment.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on August 17, 2012, 11:12:03 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s480x480/418761_410714545643406_44998044_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: JohnE on August 18, 2012, 11:32:05 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/427445_510711562289446_769317258_n.jpg)
Funny thing about that one is, liberals and conservatives would both like it, and think it applied to the other guys.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TigerHunter on August 18, 2012, 11:43:02 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/427445_510711562289446_769317258_n.jpg)
Funny thing about that one is, liberals and conservatives would both like it, and think it applied to the other guys.
Nope. The Republicans have publicly announced that they are against critical thinking.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/texas-gop-rejects-critical-thinking-skills-really/2012/07/08/gJQAHNpFXW_blog.html
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: JohnE on August 18, 2012, 12:09:16 pm
And yet, my Tea Partier supervisor says basically the same thing about liberals. I'm not saying it's true, just that it's what both sides think, so without any partisan context, that bumper sticker can be taken either way.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on August 18, 2012, 02:05:52 pm
And yet, my Tea Partier supervisor says basically the same thing about liberals. I'm not saying it's true, just that it's what both sides think, so without any partisan context, that bumper sticker can be taken either way.
But does you supervisor have any proof of liberals saying it?  or implying it? or ????
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Distind on August 18, 2012, 02:54:59 pm
And yet, my Tea Partier supervisor says basically the same thing about liberals. I'm not saying it's true, just that it's what both sides think, so without any partisan context, that bumper sticker can be taken either way.
But does you supervisor have any proof of liberals saying it?  or implying it? or ????
It's "They don't agree with me, they must not be thinking" you can see it alot in places. Like go ask about why people are atheists over on CARM odds are it'll be one of the first responses.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on August 18, 2012, 03:47:50 pm
http://jewishatheist.tumblr.com/post/29206046852/giraffe-weddings (http://jewishatheist.tumblr.com/post/29206046852/giraffe-weddings)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: booley on August 18, 2012, 04:23:47 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/ipiev.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Random Gal on August 18, 2012, 04:54:20 pm
http://jewishatheist.tumblr.com/post/29206046852/giraffe-weddings (http://jewishatheist.tumblr.com/post/29206046852/giraffe-weddings)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdVW1Lm2MH0
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on August 19, 2012, 03:52:18 am
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/603558_10151011947366275_1742471757_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 19, 2012, 11:07:12 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7jdqzonIh1r6hym4o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Vypernight on August 19, 2012, 03:26:52 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7jdqzonIh1r6hym4o1_500.jpg)

Anyone want to predict which state's next?  I'm hoping FL is soon, especially considering how close the vote was last time.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: FirsthandTuna on August 19, 2012, 03:34:31 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7jdqzonIh1r6hym4o1_500.jpg)

Anyone want to predict which state's next?  I'm hoping FL is soon, especially considering how close the vote was last time.

Washington, since it's up for vote in November.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Veras on August 19, 2012, 11:12:38 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7jdqzonIh1r6hym4o1_500.jpg)

Anyone want to predict which state's next?  I'm hoping FL is soon, especially considering how close the vote was last time.

Washington, since it's up for vote in November.
That would be an enormous moral victory for the gay rights movement.  Gay marriage has failed every single time that it has come up for a direct vote in the United States, even in progressive states like Hawaii and California.  It has only ever been legalized through court rulings and legislative action.

The polls seem to indicate that Washington is going to do it, too.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: FirsthandTuna on August 20, 2012, 12:12:53 pm
That would be an enormous moral victory for the gay rights movement.  Gay marriage has failed every single time that it has come up for a direct vote in the United States, even in progressive states like Hawaii and California.  It has only ever been legalized through court rulings and legislative action.

The polls seem to indicate that Washington is going to do it, too.

It seems somewhere there should be a law that prohibits voting on minority rights.

But then people opposed to same-sex marriage will just say it's not a rights issue, like they tend to do.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Distind on August 20, 2012, 12:15:30 pm
It seems somewhere there should be a law that prohibits voting on minority rights.

But then people opposed to same-sex marriage will just say it's not a rights issue, like they tend to do.
Which is pretty much why it's been decided by the courts, they have the authority to point out that voting on the rights of a minority isn't constitutional. So every time some state passes a law to ban it, they open the issue up to the courts.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: VirtualStranger on August 20, 2012, 03:12:19 pm
The Prop 8 trial will most likely reach the Supreme Court around summer of next year, which means that if we're lucky, the SCOTUS will rule it unconstitutional and their decision will be affective across the entire country.

http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2011/11/23/where-things-stand-with-the-prop-8-trial/
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on August 20, 2012, 03:27:09 pm
The Prop 8 trial will most likely reach the Supreme Court around summer of next year, which means that if we're lucky, the SCOTUS will rule it unconstitutional and their decision will be affective across the entire country.

http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2011/11/23/where-things-stand-with-the-prop-8-trial/

And what if they rule that it is constitutional?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on August 20, 2012, 03:30:00 pm
Then LBGTQs are FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: VirtualStranger on August 20, 2012, 03:35:05 pm
The Prop 8 trial will most likely reach the Supreme Court around summer of next year, which means that if we're lucky, the SCOTUS will rule it unconstitutional and their decision will be affective across the entire country.

http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2011/11/23/where-things-stand-with-the-prop-8-trial/

And what if they rule that it is constitutional?

Then they're out of luck until a similar case comes by the Supreme Court again.

It'll probably be a 5-4 decision either way.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: erictheblue on August 20, 2012, 09:40:44 pm
The Prop 8 trial will most likely reach the Supreme Court around summer of next year, which means that if we're lucky, the SCOTUS will rule it unconstitutional and their decision will be affective across the entire country.

http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2011/11/23/where-things-stand-with-the-prop-8-trial/

And what if they rule that it is constitutional?

Maybe I am too much of an optimist, but I cannot see that happening. Appeals courts (such as the USSC) do not, under normal circumstances, hear new evidence. (The exception is when there is a request for a new trial based on new evidence that was not available in the original trial. In that case, they are not retrying the case, only deciding if the new evidence is significant enough to warrant a new trial.) The only evidence appeals courts hear is what was brought up at trial, and evidence is only heard  through the record. (Witnesses do not testify again.)

I followed the Prop 8 trial at the time, and I've read Judge Walker's opinion. The pro-Prop 8 side presented no real evidence in favor of banning SSM. Without such evidence, the appeals court does not have much of a basis to rule in favor of Prop 8.

As an aside, I am not sure that even if the USSC ruled against Prop 8, it would make SSM legal across the country. The 9th Circuit based their ruling on the fact that same-sex couples had marriage rights in CA before Prop 8 passed. It was more an issue of "taking away existing rights" rather than an equal protection issue.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Meshakhad on August 22, 2012, 10:04:44 am
The Prop 8 trial will most likely reach the Supreme Court around summer of next year, which means that if we're lucky, the SCOTUS will rule it unconstitutional and their decision will be affective across the entire country.

http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2011/11/23/where-things-stand-with-the-prop-8-trial/

And what if they rule that it is constitutional?

Maybe I am too much of an optimist, but I cannot see that happening. Appeals courts (such as the USSC) do not, under normal circumstances, hear new evidence. (The exception is when there is a request for a new trial based on new evidence that was not available in the original trial. In that case, they are not retrying the case, only deciding if the new evidence is significant enough to warrant a new trial.) The only evidence appeals courts hear is what was brought up at trial, and evidence is only heard  through the record. (Witnesses do not testify again.)

I followed the Prop 8 trial at the time, and I've read Judge Walker's opinion. The pro-Prop 8 side presented no real evidence in favor of banning SSM. Without such evidence, the appeals court does not have much of a basis to rule in favor of Prop 8.

As an aside, I am not sure that even if the USSC ruled against Prop 8, it would make SSM legal across the country. The 9th Circuit based their ruling on the fact that same-sex couples had marriage rights in CA before Prop 8 passed. It was more an issue of "taking away existing rights" rather than an equal protection issue.

True, although the California Supreme Court ruled on a different basis. It depends on the nature of the ruling.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Smurfette Principle on August 23, 2012, 01:59:16 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m96wf8nZ6I1rynl78o1_500.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8kglksTWq1rnsvk1o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on August 24, 2012, 05:21:29 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/298733_514946175198701_568498100_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on August 24, 2012, 08:22:38 pm
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/527257_421744724558272_1697015923_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on August 25, 2012, 02:22:12 pm
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/531119_3561393477057_1710771239_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/533007_3561395157099_2104332076_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on August 29, 2012, 09:11:42 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9hi9b85EZ1qe0zcjo1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on August 29, 2012, 10:32:13 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/300478_463437670344770_1474476588_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 29, 2012, 11:11:50 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/300478_463437670344770_1474476588_n.jpg)

Only 500 yards?  You're being far too generous.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Her3tiK on August 30, 2012, 12:40:43 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/300478_463437670344770_1474476588_n.jpg)

Only 500 yards?  You're being far too generous.
To be fair, the decent thing to do would be to put said beliefs down like a senile animal.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on August 31, 2012, 11:33:55 am
Some signs from my local Occupy movement

(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv5/Nickiecole/001.jpg)

(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv5/Nickiecole/002.jpg)

(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv5/Nickiecole/003.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on September 03, 2012, 03:05:27 pm
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/398993_482952721715711_1939273385_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on September 04, 2012, 02:43:40 am
Not intentional, but I think it belongs here.

(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/e/g/4/republicans-built-debt.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on September 04, 2012, 04:44:21 pm
Not intentional, but I think it belongs here.

(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/e/g/4/republicans-built-debt.jpg)

Holy fuck!  They're being even unintentionally honest?  Whelp, that's it...its been nice while it lasted, but I think the world is finally coming to an end.

Who wants to catch a End of Days pizza?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DarkfireTaimatsu on September 06, 2012, 08:35:22 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1wy0uq9qx1qhsujro1_400.png)

Well played, my friend.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1wy0uq9qx1qhsujro10_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Veras on September 06, 2012, 10:54:20 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1wy0uq9qx1qhsujro10_1280.jpg)

Wait, wait, wait...

They actually drew a picture of two men having sex on their sign?

Are those homophobes even pretending that they're not in the closet anymore?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on September 06, 2012, 11:28:04 am
I think their obsession with gay sex proves they weren't in the closet to begin with.

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/387145_353259611421097_1401426813_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Smurfette Principle on September 06, 2012, 10:56:45 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m99ssvk4CJ1qbnzbro1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Distind on September 07, 2012, 09:55:19 am
What exactly is she protesting?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kain on September 07, 2012, 12:11:38 pm
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/391994_518512638164925_2024302215_n.jpg)

Got a bit of a chuckle out of this.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on September 07, 2012, 08:03:59 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/304648_10151155388787722_63055143_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/217821_521789907847661_472717021_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on September 09, 2012, 05:17:10 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/539000_456127331085261_2145014409_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on September 10, 2012, 03:38:06 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9sa23uJOb1rfyfe4o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Saturn500 on September 10, 2012, 05:29:51 pm
Shouldn't that go in the political cartoons thread?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on September 10, 2012, 08:03:20 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/644662_500867466608166_243618962_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Veras on September 11, 2012, 01:03:47 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9sa23uJOb1rfyfe4o1_500.jpg)

That looks like Harry Potter...

He did go into the girls' bathroom in Chamber of Secrets, and he did get in a fight in the boys' bathroom in Half-Blood Prince.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kain on September 11, 2012, 06:14:04 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9sa23uJOb1rfyfe4o1_500.jpg)

That looks like Harry Potter...

He did go into the girls' bathroom in Chamber of Secrets, and he did get in a fight in the boys' bathroom in Half-Blood Prince.
I see what you did there.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on September 11, 2012, 01:51:01 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/399749_383173021753746_1305343682_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kit Walker on September 11, 2012, 05:37:45 pm
Hey, it's Brother Jed! He's fun. My school's Secular Alliance protested his ass a little over a week ago. I held up a sign that had generic multi-colored ponies dawn on it and said "Friendship is Magic".

EDIT: Went to Brother Jed's personal page and stole some of the photos from our protest

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/252589_3723906383945_1756866483_n.jpg)

I'm the dude in the blue shirt. For clarity sake, we weren't hiding our faces from any person but instead from the sun. Jed got to sit in the shade, we didn't.

This girl wasn't with our group, but she was kind of awesome all the same.
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/392074_3723906543949_1664970837_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on September 11, 2012, 11:30:21 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/561131_510855398940011_347159165_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on September 13, 2012, 02:13:53 am
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/557498_460134454017822_935168400_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on September 13, 2012, 07:26:40 pm
Look I don't care what the man did, this is just crossing the line:
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17yscj422n8xmjpg/original.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on September 13, 2012, 07:40:57 pm
That's low, man. That's low.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kain on September 14, 2012, 06:00:14 am
I laughed at that, I must admit.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kit Walker on September 14, 2012, 12:32:19 pm
Found another one from our protest of Brother Jed!
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/253039_10151140690783917_2089454207_n.jpg)

The black girl in front's sign says "This Homo Loves You". She's actually Bi, but she figured she was gay enough for the sign to work.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on September 14, 2012, 03:54:35 pm
who's this 'Brother Jed' chap, Kit?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on September 14, 2012, 03:57:01 pm
who's this 'Brother Jed' chap, Kit?

This guy:

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/399749_383173021753746_1305343682_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on September 14, 2012, 03:57:57 pm
*just sorta stares in dumbfounded shock*

... wooooooooooow.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kit Walker on September 14, 2012, 05:54:58 pm
*just sorta stares in dumbfounded shock*

... wooooooooooow.

Highlights from his "ministry", which I listened to for about five hours:
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on September 17, 2012, 08:53:47 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/183226_504589369569296_986536605_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on September 18, 2012, 10:27:08 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s480x480/314093_418612271507501_943717365_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on September 19, 2012, 04:38:12 pm
Making radscums angry:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_macyhrvBJl1rn17l0o1_500.jpg)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_macyhrvBJl1rn17l0o2_500.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_macyhrvBJl1rn17l0o3_500.jpg)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_macyhrvBJl1rn17l0o4_500.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_macyhrvBJl1rn17l0o5_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on September 22, 2012, 03:39:17 pm
(http://cdn.front.moveon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/47sign500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on September 22, 2012, 07:23:33 pm
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/603543_267917829978760_903906918_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on September 22, 2012, 10:05:58 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s480x480/390400_474422355921633_615152904_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: KZN02 on September 23, 2012, 02:03:36 am
So is 47% the new 99%?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on September 23, 2012, 02:19:03 am
So is 47% the new 99%?

Seems like it
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on September 23, 2012, 02:58:44 pm
They make better posters than the "We are the 53%" crowd.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on September 23, 2012, 04:56:06 pm
They make better posters than the "We are the 53%" crowd.

BARF.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on September 23, 2012, 10:32:31 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/578360_229588847169585_382713532_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on September 24, 2012, 04:25:46 am
I love her expression.  "Really? REALLY?!"

... hey Ironbite, does this make her the female Miz?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on September 24, 2012, 08:21:35 am
I don't see a 'hawk so no.  It does not.

Ironbite-GOOD DAY SIR!  *puts on top hat and monocle and walks away*
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on September 26, 2012, 09:58:24 am
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/548706_274303322681291_1666710682_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on September 28, 2012, 10:02:08 am
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/427795_352463834807933_1225508760_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on September 29, 2012, 10:53:19 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/523283_486712381347081_1626152482_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on September 30, 2012, 01:16:52 am
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/9/29/13/enhanced-buzz-30384-1348939159-1.jpg)

HA HA
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on October 01, 2012, 08:16:14 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s480x480/302242_538429402839053_285064416_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on October 02, 2012, 11:55:30 pm
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/579681_495568030454180_1752649942_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Her3tiK on October 02, 2012, 11:58:09 pm
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/579681_495568030454180_1752649942_n.jpg)
Part of me hopes this insinuates less voting and more women with weapons.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Distind on October 03, 2012, 06:27:37 am
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/579681_495568030454180_1752649942_n.jpg
Part of me hopes this insinuates less voting and more women with weapons.
Population demographics being what they are either could be effective.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Smurfette Principle on October 05, 2012, 09:09:36 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3y8yjlRnB1rt8sgdo1_250.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on October 07, 2012, 12:51:27 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m84wtglRCf1r4w9ppo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: myusername on October 07, 2012, 04:40:59 pm
(http://www.stonewall.org.uk/images/cm_images/media/SPAGGOIBus.jpg)

Saw a few of these buses yesterday :)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Atheissimo on October 07, 2012, 05:09:15 pm
I saw one in Reading this morning
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 16, 2012, 12:34:20 am
Not necessarily a protest sign, but... a good point:

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/391680_389355124471403_526429672_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Alehksunos on October 16, 2012, 12:56:24 am
but 0bama failed to bring down all the deficit so lies all lies (/consie-wonsie)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 16, 2012, 04:34:05 am
Oh, dear Zachy, that's too...fact-based.  And, we all know how Jesus feels about facts that contradict a person's deeply-held, inherently ignorant opinions.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on October 21, 2012, 12:28:11 pm
binders full of women...
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/545325_543326605693991_2094804646_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Meshakhad on October 21, 2012, 12:54:30 pm
Does anyone have an official source on Obama managing to actually lower the deficit?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Veras on October 21, 2012, 01:02:31 pm
http://www.cbo.gov/publication/43656 (http://www.cbo.gov/publication/43656)

Quote
The federal government’s fiscal year 2012 has come to a close, and CBO estimates, in the Monthly Budget Review, that the federal budget deficit for the year was about $1.1 trillion, approximately $200 billion lower than the shortfall recorded in 2011. The 2012 deficit was equal to 7.0 percent of gross domestic product, CBO estimates, down from 8.7 percent in 2011, 9.0 percent in 2010, and 10.1 percent in 2009, but greater than in any other year since 1947. CBO’s deficit estimate is based on data from the Daily Treasury Statements; the Treasury Department will report the actual deficit for fiscal year 2012 later this month.

Keep in mind that the 2009 fiscal year was under Bush's budget.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on October 21, 2012, 06:11:51 pm
Yay! Austerity!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Damen on October 23, 2012, 01:51:13 am
(http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/Mitt%20Romney%20Meme%2012%20Ready.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 23, 2012, 02:04:00 am
Wow, talk about tl;dr
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Smurfette Principle on October 23, 2012, 09:56:19 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mburucBsZQ1r7fp9bo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on October 23, 2012, 10:00:48 pm
binders full of women...
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/545325_543326605693991_2094804646_n.jpg)

I guess I missed it, but what exactly was it Romney said about binders full of women?

(http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/Mitt%20Romney%20Meme%2012%20Ready.jpg)

When and what did Romney say about it being okay to abuse dogs? Saying that that is one of my berserk buttons is probably an understatement.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Saturn500 on October 23, 2012, 10:03:22 pm
I think the part about dogs is a reference to that whole "dog cage strapped to the top of his car" issue.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 23, 2012, 10:30:01 pm
Romney, during the debate, said that he wanted to address the issue of female employment by hiring a woman, so he had people bring him "binders full of women".

In truth, if anyone else had said it, it might not have become so memetic, but when his stance of dealing with inequality in the workplace is "I hired a woman once"... this happens.

Also, I think the issue with the dog wasn't just that he terrified the poor animal, but that he attempted to shrug it off.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Veras on October 23, 2012, 10:31:07 pm
Can anybody explain the "psychopathic tendencies" line?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on October 23, 2012, 10:43:22 pm
Probably the lying.
Anyways bit of context France is looking set to legalize gay marriage and adoption and ancient homophobes were protesting so two lesbians did this.  (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mccx8rSKRX1qkw6dmo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 23, 2012, 10:47:15 pm
...

The reactions in the background make that picture.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on October 23, 2012, 11:09:14 pm
My god all those people are old
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on October 24, 2012, 05:21:14 pm
Oh French lesbians...are there any better kind?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigma on October 24, 2012, 06:52:07 pm
Oh French lesbians...are there any better kind?

Swedish
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 24, 2012, 06:56:11 pm
Oh French lesbians...are there any better kind?

Swedish

I almost posted Swedish Lesbians myself o_o

WE HAVE THE SAME BRAIN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RinellaWasHere on October 24, 2012, 06:56:51 pm
Oh French lesbians...are there any better kind?

Redheads.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigma on October 24, 2012, 07:03:01 pm
Oh French lesbians...are there any better kind?

Redheads.

Well, the good thing about lesbians is that there are at least 2... so one swedish, one redheaded french?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RinellaWasHere on October 24, 2012, 07:06:52 pm
Oh French lesbians...are there any better kind?

Redheads.

Well, the good thing about lesbians is that there are at least 2... so one swedish, one redheaded french?

I'm in. Well, not literally. Literally speaking I'm on the sidelines leering creepily.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigma on October 24, 2012, 07:10:03 pm
Oh French lesbians...are there any better kind?

Redheads.

Well, the good thing about lesbians is that there are at least 2... so one swedish, one redheaded french?

I'm in. Well, not literally. Literally speaking I'm on the sidelines leering creepily.

We all are.... we all are.....
Except for those two lucky women.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on October 25, 2012, 11:37:05 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/530852_417652061635897_1368458119_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: armandtanzarian on October 25, 2012, 11:42:15 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/530852_417652061635897_1368458119_n.jpg)
You wanna bring down GS and Wall Street? Cut power to the Bloomberg data center. Seriously without their terminals they're like headless chickens.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on October 26, 2012, 09:23:12 pm
not exactly the kind of protest signs we are used to but still....

(http://i.imgur.com/lyCA4l.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on October 27, 2012, 01:53:14 am
I don't like Donald Trump or most of what he says

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/564958_10152188447800084_2106636138_n.jpg)

But I'll hi-five him for this.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DiscoBerry on October 27, 2012, 02:38:25 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/314271_550615934963922_844045228_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kit Walker on October 27, 2012, 04:56:01 pm
I don't like Donald Trump or most of what he says

*Trump trashes Malkin*

But I'll hi-five him for this.

I'm not so sure that's warranted, unless that Tweet is older than this week. Malkin recently blasted Ann Coulter for calling the president a "retard" and for willfully misinterpreting his "Romneysia" crack.  (http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2012/10/26/wingnut-on-wingnut-crime-malkin-vs-coulter-2/)It is possible that Trump could be calling her out for "defending" the president.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on October 27, 2012, 05:18:12 pm
I don't like Donald Trump or most of what he says

*Trump trashes Malkin*

But I'll hi-five him for this.

I'm not so sure that's warranted, unless that Tweet is older than this week. Malkin recently blasted Ann Coulter for calling the president a "retard" and for willfully misinterpreting his "Romneysia" crack.  (http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2012/10/26/wingnut-on-wingnut-crime-malkin-vs-coulter-2/)It is possible that Trump could be calling her out for "defending" the president.

Probably not, since he mentioned her "past". To be fair, he could be accusing her of being a RINO for not being that big on social issues.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on October 29, 2012, 09:30:46 pm
HEY FIREFLY FANS - JOSS WEDON HAS SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TiXUF9xbTo
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Damen on October 29, 2012, 10:51:14 pm
HEY FIREFLY FANS - JOSS WEDON HAS SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TiXUF9xbTo

I want to have a uterus transplanted into my belly just so I can have that man's baby.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SkyTrekTower on October 29, 2012, 11:58:02 pm
This isn't really a protest sign, but it still could probably be placed here.

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/557853_4478248590855_889203519_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on October 30, 2012, 12:21:57 am
This isn't really a protest sign, but it still could probably be placed here.

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/557853_4478248590855_889203519_n.jpg)
Not showing
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SkyTrekTower on October 30, 2012, 12:29:08 am
This isn't really a protest sign, but it still could probably be placed here.

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/557853_4478248590855_889203519_n.jpg)
Not showing

Don't know what to do.  I checked in Chrome and Firefox, and it shows up in both(I'm not logged in to Facebook(where I found the photo on a friend's wall) on Firefox in case that was it). The photo shows a Romney/Ryan hat with a "Made in China" tag, while an Obama hat has a tag that says "Made in the U.S.A."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on October 30, 2012, 03:49:51 am
Shows for me as well.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sylvana on October 30, 2012, 05:54:18 am
HEY FIREFLY FANS - JOSS WEDON HAS SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TiXUF9xbTo

After watching that endorsement, my boyfriend made this when he noticed how the hero looks like a young version of Romney.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on October 30, 2012, 07:19:37 am
Now I see it
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheL on October 31, 2012, 09:05:37 am
HEY FIREFLY FANS - JOSS WEDON HAS SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TiXUF9xbTo

I want to have a uterus transplanted into my belly just so I can have that man's baby.

Believe me, Damen, I know the feeling. :)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on October 31, 2012, 10:47:00 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s480x480/480971_508058545871795_1214101513_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Damen on October 31, 2012, 11:30:00 pm
Not a protest sign, but it is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTCRwi71_ns
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on November 02, 2012, 11:41:28 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s480x480/480971_508058545871795_1214101513_n.jpg)

I'd do that if Dad wouldn't get majorly pissed. He agrees with some of Romney/Ryan but I don't believe he's voting for them, however. So I'm in the clear either way.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on November 02, 2012, 01:47:45 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/604137_367908499965285_1999664279_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DiscoBerry on November 04, 2012, 12:33:28 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/CeGgbNO0t0yv5JAV0wgLbg2.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on November 04, 2012, 02:51:29 pm
ooh, that's a GOOD one, Disco!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on November 07, 2012, 01:08:02 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcpj0zQ9rR1qcsn9wo1_500.jpg)

I was going to put this in political cartoons but this seems more like a protest to me.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on November 07, 2012, 04:21:08 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/c100.0.403.403/p403x403/545428_240394279421589_762190363_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s720x720/421778_297304350332697_144251838_n.jpg)
If anyone is wondering, Hayworth is the local teabagger that got kicked to the curb in my congressional district last night.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheL on November 07, 2012, 10:24:44 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcpj0zQ9rR1qcsn9wo1_500.jpg)

I was going to put this in political cartoons but this seems more like a protest to me.

I cheat on the church and embezzle with Greed
I cheat on the church and I take what I need...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on November 08, 2012, 11:36:07 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/32362_409793662427142_2008743721_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on November 08, 2012, 11:56:42 am
I hope when he leaves for Costa Rica he learns that socialized medicine is good
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on November 08, 2012, 12:03:10 pm
I'll be more than happy to help pack his bags, the same goes for any other teabagger.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on November 09, 2012, 03:53:36 am
Same goes for the people threatening to move to Canada, Brazil, and other countries they believe to be 'better than living under a commie president'.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on November 10, 2012, 02:12:54 pm
Costa Rica might actually reject Rush. He would possibly fall under their political extremist/agitators clause. They're a really great, smart little nation....too small and calm to want a big pirhana fish like Rush in their little pond.

By the way, my own Dad lived and worked in CR for 10 years until he died, and is buried there.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on November 10, 2012, 02:53:00 pm
They might taake him in Brazil it's a Republican wet dream low income taxes, poor have all the tax burden, massive poverty, and no abortions
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on November 10, 2012, 06:02:18 pm
Same goes for the people threatening to move to Canada, Brazil, and other countries they believe to be 'better than living under a commie president'.

Not Canada, they don't need to ruin the other good countries.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on November 11, 2012, 09:55:23 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/230124_510443718980120_1790169643_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: QueenofHearts on November 12, 2012, 07:17:55 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/230124_510443718980120_1790169643_n.jpg)

I think we should all do that. Yeah, it costs 55 cents to send him 15 cents, and he'll probably just keep that change, but he is a dick.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on November 12, 2012, 07:26:20 am
13 cents I think actually. To be fair that is how much I would pay for Papa Johns
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on November 12, 2012, 12:26:13 pm
Is there a specific thing about 15 cents that I'm not aware of?  Because I'm not getting the joke :(
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Jack Mann on November 12, 2012, 12:28:31 pm
CEO and founder of Papa John's has said that Obamacare will likely force him to raise prices by fifteen to twenty cents.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on November 12, 2012, 01:08:45 pm
Yeah such a huge burden  ::)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Bezron on November 12, 2012, 02:40:21 pm
CEO and founder of Papa John's has said that Obamacare will likely force him to raise prices by fifteen to twenty cents.

There is more to it than even that:

He has also publicly stated that he will be actively looking to cut employee hours at all locations so that all employees come in under the thresholds that will require the company (NOT him personally) to provide healthcare under the law.

On another note:  who the fuck even eats this nasty fucking pizza?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: the_ignored on November 12, 2012, 03:23:13 pm
CEO and founder of Papa John's has said that Obamacare will likely force him to raise prices by fifteen to twenty cents.

There is more to it than even that:

He has also publicly stated that he will be actively looking to cut employee hours at all locations so that all employees come in under the thresholds that will require the company (NOT him personally) to provide healthcare under the law.

On another note:  who the fuck even eats this nasty fucking pizza?

That's what pisses me off about people like that:  So they get a little less profit than they otherwise would.  Big deal.  Instead of sucking it up like the rest of us have to, they place profits above people and pass the increased costs onto us.

And they openly threaten us with that kind of shit while pretending to care, saying that they only think of us when they "warn" us of what they will do. 

Fuckers.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: the_ignored on November 12, 2012, 04:48:33 pm

We all are.... we all are.....
Except for those two lucky women.
Speaking of which (http://www.wearesmrt.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=10481)...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on November 15, 2012, 10:38:10 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/374784_10151312693861081_160370230_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on November 15, 2012, 10:54:44 pm
OOOOO Rush got burned...lol
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Material Defender on November 16, 2012, 01:24:15 am
By his own side!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on November 16, 2012, 02:30:06 am
Is that the real Christie?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Diamandahagan on November 16, 2012, 12:00:20 pm
No. Funny though.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on November 16, 2012, 06:39:13 pm
Damn it Diamanda.  How dare you kill our hopes and dreams.

Ironbite-....WAIT DIAMANDA POSTED!?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on November 21, 2012, 03:38:32 pm
Damn it Diamanda.  How dare you kill our hopes and dreams.

Ironbite-....WAIT DIAMANDA POSTED!?

I don't know if that's THE Diamanda Hagan though.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on November 23, 2012, 08:36:07 am
It is.

Ironbite-trust me newbie...it is.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Diamandahagan on November 23, 2012, 10:33:47 am
Damn it Diamanda.  How dare you kill our hopes and dreams.

Ironbite-....WAIT DIAMANDA POSTED!?

I don't know if that's THE Diamanda Hagan though.

Boo.

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/576981_398065876934088_1017258461_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on November 23, 2012, 11:52:40 am
Damn it Diamanda.  How dare you kill our hopes and dreams.

Ironbite-....WAIT DIAMANDA POSTED!?

I don't know if that's THE Diamanda Hagan though.

Boo.

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/576981_398065876934088_1017258461_n.jpg)

I'm sorry.  Big fan of your work, by the way.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Diamandahagan on November 23, 2012, 12:14:09 pm
I was just being silly. Im glad you like the vids! More coming!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on November 23, 2012, 05:43:11 pm
If you follow her twitter....a lot of magfest videos.

Ironbite-dear god the magfest videos.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on November 23, 2012, 08:23:21 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/401262_376095485815408_468033016_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on November 25, 2012, 01:37:56 pm
I want this sticker....
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/14325_518584058152577_1998570798_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DiscoBerry on November 25, 2012, 01:40:23 pm
Translation= "Bibi Loser"

(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/1353599977691jpgCROPrectangle3-large.jpg)

(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/xchaF.jpeg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on November 25, 2012, 05:52:08 pm
I want this sticker....

http://www.cafepress.com/mf/8024098/religion-out-of-politic_bumper-sticker?cmp=knc-pla-23882886&utm_term=23882886&utm_medium=cpc&utm_cp_signal=93&pid=3607873&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=sem_product_feed (http://www.cafepress.com/mf/8024098/religion-out-of-politic_bumper-sticker?cmp=knc-pla-23882886&utm_term=23882886&utm_medium=cpc&utm_cp_signal=93&pid=3607873&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=sem_product_feed)

yup, it's perfect! :)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Damen on December 01, 2012, 02:31:08 pm
(http://everysaturdaymorning.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/16117_499611023394101_586111_n1.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Yla on December 01, 2012, 04:12:27 pm
(http://everysaturdaymorning.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/16117_499611023394101_586111_n1.jpg)
Sorry, but...
Ceci n'est pas une pipe.
 :P
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on December 09, 2012, 04:20:54 pm
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/532049_583463581683315_1213645723_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on December 11, 2012, 08:20:53 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/s480x480/222218_498540690166109_537915672_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Feral Dog on December 12, 2012, 04:27:51 pm
From Chicago's health protests.

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/cdnassets/assets/7570/protest_col14.jpg)

(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/568971/thumbs/s-WOODLAWN-CHICAGO-MENTAL-HEALTH-CENTER-large.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on December 13, 2012, 09:59:28 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/s480x480/196480_570108413015810_721041206_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on December 21, 2012, 08:44:14 am
(http://s.buzzfeed.com/raw/prop-8-protest-signs/prop-8-protest-signs-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on December 23, 2012, 08:26:08 am
(http://i.imgur.com/EaC9B.gif)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on December 23, 2012, 10:48:06 am
(http://i.imgur.com/EaC9B.gif)

I think I'm gonna like you, newbie.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Saturn500 on December 23, 2012, 12:35:23 pm
I remember seeing that in one of the classrooms at the High School I went to a few years ago.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on December 23, 2012, 08:44:20 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/EaC9B.gif)

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w192/kenny90_bucket/gif-picard-clapping.gif)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on December 25, 2012, 08:06:42 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/HJTr2.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/hmC2q.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/qzW6v.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/bzITE.jpg)

No general theme here, just stuff I thought was great
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Auggziliary on December 25, 2012, 08:38:11 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/HJTr2.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/hmC2q.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/qzW6v.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/bzITE.jpg)

No general theme here, just stuff I thought was great

That first one looks like it was at a tea party protest.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on December 25, 2012, 09:59:21 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/HJTr2.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/hmC2q.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/qzW6v.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/bzITE.jpg)

No general theme here, just stuff I thought was great

That first one looks like it was at a tea party protest.

I agree. That lady on the left has a sign that looks like half of "Keep your government hands off my health care!"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: zupper on December 26, 2012, 11:02:54 am
(http://i.imgur.com/HJTr2.jpg)

That first one looks like it was at a tea party protest.

I agree. That lady on the left has a sign that looks like half of "Keep your government hands off my health care!"

It is. Doing a google reverse image search leads to: http://www.esquire.com/the-side/richardson-report/tea-party-protest-2010-031610 (http://www.esquire.com/the-side/richardson-report/tea-party-protest-2010-031610) "Tea Party protests on health care bill"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kit Walker on December 26, 2012, 02:43:17 pm
While the intent behind the sign is stupid, the actual text of it is awesome. And would have been relevant at any point in the last 12 years. And most likely will be relevant indefinitely, since if the constitutional law professor isn't walking it back then no one's gonna.

I made myself sad.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Auggziliary on December 26, 2012, 03:17:50 pm
While the intent behind the sign is stupid, the actual text of it is awesome. And would have been relevant at any point in the last 12 years. And most likely will be relevant indefinitely, since if the constitutional law professor isn't walking it back then no one's gonna.

I made myself sad.

Meh, I think it's too broad, it's like having a sign that says "Don't do illegal things".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on December 26, 2012, 09:42:53 pm
"More betterness!" "Less worseness!" (http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2710#comic)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on December 26, 2012, 10:53:45 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/534436_533315956679387_382605513_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on December 26, 2012, 11:39:39 pm
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3165/2585590669_9a212c3ef7.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ThunderWulf on December 27, 2012, 08:41:19 am
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/301885_553265208035567_1884778150_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kristine on December 27, 2012, 03:32:16 pm
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/312548_473660932676308_1445475696_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Zygarde on December 29, 2012, 06:39:35 pm
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2012/12/29/11/enhanced-buzz-wide-14664-1356799493-3.jpg) This is from protest in India of a recent gang rape theirs an article full of em here http://www.buzzfeed.com/summeranne/powerful-photographs-of-india-demanding-justice-fo
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: largeham on December 29, 2012, 07:02:06 pm
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2012/12/29/11/enhanced-buzz-wide-14664-1356799493-3.jpg)

Absolutely not, being fast tracked in courts anywhere is hardly ever a good thing, and considering the state of the Indian police and court system, we are more likely to see poor people roughed up by the police and convicted for rape on shoddy evidence.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on December 29, 2012, 08:26:38 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/548133_401684209916381_262170182_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Feral Dog on December 29, 2012, 10:26:41 pm
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2012/12/29/11/enhanced-buzz-wide-14664-1356799493-3.jpg)

Absolutely not, being fast tracked in courts anywhere is hardly ever a good thing, and considering the state of the Indian police and court system, we are more likely to see poor people roughed up by the police and convicted for rape on shoddy evidence.

Unfortunately they are contending with a system that pretty much doesn't investigate or prosecute rape cases at all, blames the victims for their rapes because of their clothing, job, or even the fact that they have a boyfriend, harasses women who report assaults, and so on. A woman just died of internal injuries after an iron rod was shoved inside her after a gang-rape, and THEN the police began investigating, after loud public outcry (this is probably what the photo is from). Not that fast-tracking is a good idea, but feelings are strong right now.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: LeTipex on December 30, 2012, 08:29:10 am
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2012/12/29/11/enhanced-buzz-wide-14664-1356799493-3.jpg)

Absolutely not, being fast tracked in courts anywhere is hardly ever a good thing, and considering the state of the Indian police and court system, we are more likely to see poor people roughed up by the police and convicted for rape on shoddy evidence.

Unfortunately they are contending with a system that pretty much doesn't investigate or prosecute rape cases at all, blames the victims for their rapes because of their clothing, job, or even the fact that they have a boyfriend, harasses women who report assaults, and so on. A woman just died of internal injuries after an iron rod was shoved inside her after a gang-rape, and THEN the police began investigating, after loud public outcry (this is probably what the photo is from). Not that fast-tracking is a good idea, but feelings are strong right now.
And taking important decisions about the justice system should really NOT be done when feelings are strong. Rational discourse right now would be... somewhat lacking.

That said, actually prosecuting rapist would be good.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on January 04, 2013, 05:51:59 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/540858_10151192571083683_1486068214_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on January 04, 2013, 05:53:05 pm
(https://www.facebook.com/photo.phpfbid=10151192571083683&set=a.10151153925348683.446928.501143682&type=1&ref=nf)

So, that's not showing up for me...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on January 04, 2013, 05:53:50 pm
I fixed it
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on January 04, 2013, 05:54:44 pm
I fixed it

Thank you.

That's awesome.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on January 05, 2013, 11:39:05 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/183234_511970435503564_1552829113_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on January 06, 2013, 03:43:44 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/537912_510409305659124_629695876_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on January 16, 2013, 08:37:34 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/184532_330582933717301_1637994077_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Canadian Mojo on January 16, 2013, 09:02:15 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/184532_330582933717301_1637994077_n.jpg)
And this is why that's not really awesome.
(http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv17/canadian_mojo/Planned_Parenthood_49.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on January 16, 2013, 09:45:16 pm
That quote is out of context

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger#Unsourced

"we do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members"

She didn't want people to think that because it wasn't true.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on January 16, 2013, 09:58:13 pm
Canadian Mojo's quote may be misquote, but gun control does have a bit of a racist history (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/09/adam-winkler-gun-fight-author-on-gun-control-s-racism.html) behind it, and the NRA supported such measures that were motivated by racism of one form or another.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on January 16, 2013, 10:09:07 pm
Canadian Mojo's quote may be misquote, but gun control does have a bit of a racist history (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/09/adam-winkler-gun-fight-author-on-gun-control-s-racism.html) behind it, and the NRA supported such measures that were motivated by racism of one form or another.
Such as?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on January 16, 2013, 10:10:25 pm
That quote is out of context

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger#Unsourced

"we do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members"

She didn't want people to think that because it wasn't true.

She may not have been a racist, but she was a eugenicist.  Needless to say, Planned Parenthood has distanced itself from those views.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on January 16, 2013, 10:13:57 pm
There's a link in my post. That quote is related to the National Firearms Act of 1934, which was put in place in response to the rise of the Prohibition era gangsters. Here's another link about  gun control history (http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/09/the-secret-history-of-guns/308608/?single_page=true) , and how the NRA and other groups like the Klan support measures over racial fears.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Canadian Mojo on January 16, 2013, 10:44:09 pm
I know it's a misquote, but does it really matter? Even if they were her views what she said then is immaterial to what the organization is now. It's no different then making claims about how it was the Republicans who freed the slaves.

It's an even more poignant point to be made when you consider that most of the arguments for gun control are specifically pointed at undermining the validity of the second amendment by saying when it was crafted it was impossible to understand and take into account the needs of modern society and the weapons we have access to. We can't have it both ways, we are either all tied to the lode stone of the past or we are all free of it. Anything else is hypocrisy, regardless of the cause, for better or worse.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on January 16, 2013, 11:07:40 pm
I know it's a misquote, but does it really matter? Even if they were her views what she said then is immaterial to what the organization is now. It's no different then making claims about how it was the Republicans who freed the slaves.


We're not saying that the current NRA is for gun control. It's more like this image

(http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p372/hounddog1111/DwightEisenhower.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on January 16, 2013, 11:23:16 pm
I know it's a misquote, but does it really matter? Even if they were her views what she said then is immaterial to what the organization is now. It's no different then making claims about how it was the Republicans who freed the slaves.


We're not saying that the current NRA is for gun control. It's more like this image

(http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p372/hounddog1111/DwightEisenhower.jpg)

Not quite the quote...

Quote from: Dwight D. Eisenhower
Now it is true that I believe this country is following a dangerous trend when it permits too great a degree of centralization of governmental functions. I oppose this -- in some instances the fight is a rather desperate one. But to attain any success it is quite clear that the Federal government cannot avoid or escape responsibilities which the mass of the people firmly believe should be undertaken by it. The political processes of our country are such that if a rule of reason is not applied in this effort, we will lose everything -- even to a possible and drastic change in the Constitution. This is what I mean by my constant insistence upon "moderation" in government. Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on January 17, 2013, 12:50:38 am
That quote is out of context

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger#Unsourced

"we do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members"

She didn't want people to think that because it wasn't true.

She may not have been a racist, but she was a eugenicist.  Needless to say, Planned Parenthood has distanced itself from those views.

Not quite. She was happy to use other people's belief in eugenics as a tool in favour of abortion rights.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on January 17, 2013, 01:05:48 am
(http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/541709_10100983017536942_871022621_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 17, 2013, 01:28:09 am
(http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/541709_10100983017536942_871022621_n.jpg)


Is it odd that I can actually hear this in Wonka's own voice?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Vypernight on January 17, 2013, 04:59:15 am
And don't forget flag burning.  Funny how flag burning and SSM should be covered under the First Amendment (I'm not sure where/if abortions are covered by an amendment), but those get ignored.  So the First Amendment is open to interpretation but the Second must be followed to the letter. 

Of course, considering those who say that usually say the same thing about their precious little bibles.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheL on January 17, 2013, 07:29:34 am
That quote is out of context

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger#Unsourced

"we do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members"

She didn't want people to think that because it wasn't true.

I've seen people quote that entire sentence and the one before it in anti-abortion propaganda, and cite it as "evidence" that Sanger was buying off ministers and having them lie their asses off about her secret plans for genocide.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rookie on January 17, 2013, 10:25:42 am

She may not have been a racist, but she was a eugenicist.

Perhaps she was. But it was at a time in history when eugenics was a strong pop-psyc  thing. Like sort of the equivalent of a Dr. Phil. It wasn't like she was some sort of lone wackjob with out there beliefs at the time. Much like if you were to read the works of Sam Clements today. Pretty damn racist, right? But probably not for the time.

Sorry, I just hate to see the past being abused this way.

ETA: Sorry, that wasn't at you, Dragon.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 17, 2013, 11:02:19 am
Also the whole issue is this is the one time anti choiceers claim to care for black people.  When they are forced to give birth and want to raise the kid ....
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on January 17, 2013, 04:03:13 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/DEIqb.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on January 17, 2013, 06:40:07 pm

She may not have been a racist, but she was a eugenicist.

Perhaps she was. But it was at a time in history when eugenics was a strong pop-psyc  thing. Like sort of the equivalent of a Dr. Phil. It wasn't like she was some sort of lone wackjob with out there beliefs at the time. Much like if you were to read the works of Sam Clements today. Pretty damn racist, right? But probably not for the time.

Sorry, I just hate to see the past being abused this way.

ETA: Sorry, that wasn't at you, Dragon.

Of course, this is exactly what most conservatives would say if you criticise (say) Bedford Forrest. One standard for me, another for thee.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on January 17, 2013, 08:12:47 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/408446_556894104323360_1997085585_n.jpg)

And don't forget flag burning.  Funny how flag burning and SSM should be covered under the First Amendment (I'm not sure where/if abortions are covered by an amendment), but those get ignored.  So the First Amendment is open to interpretation but the Second must be followed to the letter. 

Of course, considering those who say that usually say the same thing about their precious little bibles.

Not to mention that burning a flag is how you properly dispose of a worn flag to begin with. The real kicker is that the flag shouldn't even be used for advertising purposes.
U.S Flag Etiquette (http://www.usa-flag-site.org/etiquette.shtml)

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t132/theinfamoustimmy/TheMoreYouKnow.gif)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on January 17, 2013, 09:19:38 pm
Not to mention that burning a flag is how you properly dispose of a worn flag to begin with. The real kicker is that the flag shouldn't even be used for advertising purposes.
U.S Flag Etiquette (http://www.usa-flag-site.org/etiquette.shtml)

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t132/theinfamoustimmy/TheMoreYouKnow.gif)

Yes, but that specifies that it be burned in a dignified manner. Burning a flag in a protest is not something some would call dignified.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 17, 2013, 09:21:56 pm
Not to mention that burning a flag is how you properly dispose of a worn flag to begin with. The real kicker is that the flag shouldn't even be used for advertising purposes.
U.S Flag Etiquette (http://www.usa-flag-site.org/etiquette.shtml)

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t132/theinfamoustimmy/TheMoreYouKnow.gif)

Yes, but that specifies that it be burned in a dignified manner. Burning a flag in a protest is not something some would call dignified.


Exactly.

And I remember we had to burn one of our old ones for JROTC. And you have an entire ceremony. It's not just burning it cause you're mad at the people the flag represents.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on January 17, 2013, 10:48:31 pm
Yeah, it does say in a dignified manner, but most of the time when it comes to writing the bills that try to ban it, they do a crappy job at it that it bans all flag burning. That being said the Supreme Court has upheld  flag burning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._Johnson) as free speech.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Meshakhad on January 18, 2013, 01:26:16 am
My solution is to make all US flags out of non-flammable materials.

Protestor: We're going to burn the American flag! Down with America!
American: You can't burn the American flag!
Protestor: Freedom of speech!
American: No, I meant, it's not physically possible.
Protestor: Fuck you! *tries to light flag* Why won't it ignite?
American: TROLLFACE
Protestor:  Goddamn Americans!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SimSim on January 18, 2013, 03:47:25 pm
You do realize that burning the flag is the proper way to dispose if it, right?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Vypernight on January 18, 2013, 05:22:53 pm
Yeah, it does say in a dignified manner, but most of the time when it comes to writing the bills that try to ban it, they do a crappy job at it that it bans all flag burning. That being said the Supreme Court has upheld  flag burning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._Johnson) as free speech.

And yet people still argue about it, just like they argue that marriage should be between a man and woman because it is a religious institution.  If that's the case, then shouldn't it be covered by Freedom of Religion?

Once again, why is the First Amendment open to interpretation, but the Second Amendment must be followed to the letter?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TenfoldMaquette on January 18, 2013, 05:28:08 pm
Once again, why is the First Amendment open to interpretation, but the Second Amendment must be followed to the letter?

Paranoia?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on January 19, 2013, 01:59:46 am
Once again, why is the First Amendment open to interpretation, but the Second Amendment must be followed to the letter?

Because Thomas Jefferson and God himself intended for me to have a DL-44 heavy blaster pistol, damn it!!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ScrappyB on January 19, 2013, 02:07:38 am
Once again, why is the First Amendment open to interpretation, but the Second Amendment must be followed to the letter?

Because Thomas Jefferson and God himself intended for me to have a DL-44 heavy blaster pistol, damn it!!

No, no... See, the founding fathers worded it as "arms" so it's not just limited to guns. They obviously meant every American would have the right to their very own nuclear weapons.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on January 19, 2013, 02:11:02 am
(http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=29785&type=card)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on January 19, 2013, 08:27:07 am
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9t1Of45QHd0/R_xAL-yPFJI/AAAAAAAAC2U/MxJuo7KwfLw/s320/1_the_right_to_bear_arms.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on January 20, 2013, 01:19:41 am
It's funny that flag disposal is being discussed tangentially in this thread.  Our local news was just talking about flag disposal tonight.  Something about a group collecting and destroying tattered old flags.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on January 20, 2013, 02:20:34 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/ca7d791e1b6ebef21a1105dc554b28db/tumblr_mgs07vZIMn1r99egpo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on January 20, 2013, 06:31:03 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/149558_522904184398953_441743096_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: KZN02 on January 20, 2013, 09:33:24 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/149558_522904184398953_441743096_n.jpg)
Well, it probably has traces of cocaine on it, may as well.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Damen on January 21, 2013, 03:18:01 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/149558_522904184398953_441743096_n.jpg)
Well, it probably has traces of cocaine on it, may as well.

And feces.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on January 21, 2013, 03:27:11 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/149558_522904184398953_441743096_n.jpg)
Well, it probably has traces of cocaine on it, may as well.

And feces.

Feces from those gay shit-eating orgies that we always here preachers and such talking about?

You know, the people who put that money into the collection plate aren't expecting it to be put towards that kind of stuff.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on January 22, 2013, 01:54:48 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/149558_522904184398953_441743096_n.jpg)
Well, it probably has traces of cocaine on it, may as well.

And feces.

Feces from those gay shit-eating orgies that we always here preachers and such talking about?

You know, the people who put that money into the collection plate aren't expecting it to be put towards that kind of stuff.

(http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Eat_114dde_648438.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on January 23, 2013, 07:22:46 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/296401_495182570509274_591820682_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ThunderWulf on January 23, 2013, 07:30:00 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/296401_495182570509274_591820682_n.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcYppAs6ZdI
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on January 23, 2013, 11:45:15 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c67.0.403.403/p403x403/486960_547602355250747_700752090_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Meshakhad on January 24, 2013, 01:57:19 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c67.0.403.403/p403x403/486960_547602355250747_700752090_n.jpg)

HELL YES (pun intended)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on January 24, 2013, 01:22:58 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c67.0.403.403/p403x403/486960_547602355250747_700752090_n.jpg)

HELL YES (pun intended)

Makes me so proud to have been raised Congregationalist! And it's nice to see main stream churches grow and show a pair, now and then.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on January 26, 2013, 11:25:02 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/251959_526085047414200_464360674_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on January 26, 2013, 12:14:57 pm
THIS THIS THIS THIS^
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DiscoBerry on January 30, 2013, 07:21:50 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/ONTrqd1_zpse6a948c5.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on January 31, 2013, 12:48:07 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/539047_531508366871868_775687008_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 31, 2013, 02:17:17 pm
That looks a wee bit photoshopped
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigma on February 01, 2013, 01:12:49 pm
Dunno if it has been posted before, but I don't think so, so here goes nothing :

(https://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/6470960_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on February 03, 2013, 08:02:57 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/32174_532599006774585_844900161_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 03, 2013, 08:40:46 pm
the original receipt thing what a douche.  nice counter
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Auggziliary on February 04, 2013, 05:48:21 pm
That looks a wee bit photoshopped

Lol... wee
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on February 08, 2013, 10:24:24 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/71424_606094472750537_647236600_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DiscoBerry on February 09, 2013, 01:18:25 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/71424_606094472750537_647236600_n.jpg)

The Alabama plate is the best part.  On a side note, is that a magnet? 
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on February 09, 2013, 01:53:23 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/71424_606094472750537_647236600_n.jpg)

The Alabama plate is the best part.  On a side note, is that a magnet?

It's good to see this website depict a southerner in a positive light for once.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 09, 2013, 03:03:35 pm
To be honest probably
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DiscoBerry on February 09, 2013, 08:57:33 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/555805_606598346033483_588288225_n_zpsb9e209c2.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: KZN02 on February 09, 2013, 09:22:04 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/555805_606598346033483_588288225_n_zpsb9e209c2.jpg)
Makes me wonder about the military budget cuts, that could work both ways.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kit Walker on February 10, 2013, 11:13:11 am
Makes me wonder about the military budget cuts, that could work both ways.

The U.S. accounts for 41% of all world military spending. Even if we cut that in half, we still be close to spending three times as much as the next biggest spender. If the U.S. Government decided to turn its military on its own people, the only prayer we would have are the people in the military refusing the orders.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 11, 2013, 02:05:04 am
Makes me wonder about the military budget cuts, that could work both ways.

The U.S. accounts for 41% of all world military spending. Even if we cut that in half, we still be close to spending three times as much as the next biggest spender. If the U.S. Government decided to turn its military on its own people, the only prayer we would have are the people in the military refusing the orders.

BINGO.  That, or having a significant chunk of the military go turncoat.  Depending on the reason behind using our forces on our own people...that may be a strong possibility.  Of course, we'd still have to contend with the most technologically advanced military the world's ever seen that's capable of fighting a 24/7 war on land, sea, and air.  We'd need backup.  A LOT of god damned backup.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on February 11, 2013, 03:47:48 am
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/555805_606598346033483_588288225_n_zpsb9e209c2.jpg)

That is an enormous rocket launcher. Or a tiny aircraft carrier.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Scotsgit on February 11, 2013, 10:49:19 am
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/555805_606598346033483_588288225_n_zpsb9e209c2.jpg)

That is an enormous rocket launcher. Or a tiny aircraft carrier.

It's the grenade bigger than a helicopter I'm worried about!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Her3tiK on February 11, 2013, 01:10:19 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/555805_606598346033483_588288225_n_zpsb9e209c2.jpg)

That is an enormous rocket launcher. Or a tiny aircraft carrier.

It's the grenade bigger than a helicopter I'm worried about!
That is genius.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on February 11, 2013, 11:13:02 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/529698_612118848813630_326210713_n.jpg)
This is why I love Tim Gunn...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on February 14, 2013, 08:10:20 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/c6m1GeW.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 14, 2013, 08:12:12 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/555805_606598346033483_588288225_n_zpsb9e209c2.jpg)

That is an enormous rocket launcher. Or a tiny aircraft carrier.

It's the grenade bigger than a helicopter I'm worried about!
That is genius.
Shit, I was looking for that. I had seen it in a Google search and I told myself I'd go back and find it again...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 14, 2013, 10:14:15 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/c6m1GeW.jpg)
I dunno that actually seems worst due to the demonization of iran general
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Meshakhad on February 14, 2013, 11:30:59 pm
There's a difference between demonizing Ahmadinejad and demonizing Iran. Ask my Middle Eastern History instructor. He's Iranian himself, but hates the current regime.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on February 15, 2013, 12:48:30 am
There's a difference between demonizing Ahmadinejad and demonizing Iran. Ask my Middle Eastern History instructor. He's Iranian himself, but hates the current regime.

This.

The person specified Amadinnerjacket.  I think it's fine :P
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on February 19, 2013, 09:13:06 am
(http://i.imgur.com/4wVUfow.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on February 19, 2013, 01:57:16 pm
THANK YOU.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on February 20, 2013, 12:29:49 pm
He's not the only Jew protesting Israel's bad behavior.

(http://i.imgur.com/62zVSmf.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on February 20, 2013, 01:44:56 pm
I like their hats o_o </useless post>
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Bezron on February 20, 2013, 02:42:59 pm
I like their hats o_o </useless post>

I like how it looks like their side curls (I forget the name of them) are growing right out of the hat.  Like some strange Russian/Nepalese hat hybrid
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on February 20, 2013, 02:50:17 pm
If I ever change to a different religion based only on the type of clothing the believers wear, it would definitely be whatever branch of Judaism those guys belong to.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RinellaWasHere on February 20, 2013, 04:41:46 pm
I really want that to be their hair. Like, a trimmed and shaped Jewfro.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on February 21, 2013, 01:48:19 am
I like their hats o_o </useless post>

I was gonna post that until I scrolled down and saw your post.

I also like their jackets.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on February 21, 2013, 02:45:32 pm
Zionism =/= Judaism. Nice to see the Orthodox guys showing it's about the humanity, not pseudo religious political racism.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 21, 2013, 02:54:23 pm
Those guys are Neturei Karta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neturei_Karta). One of their lead Rabbis was a guest at Ahmadinejad's Tehran Holocaust Denial Conference.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on February 21, 2013, 03:20:57 pm
Wow....that must have been trying for him, to say the least. That he did not strangle Armanidinnerjacket proves he really is the better man.

Okay, now I finally read all of the wiki about it, I retract that. What did he actually say to dinnerjacket about the holocaust denial thing though? Or did he just have a stroke and not hear it? WTF?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 21, 2013, 03:25:04 pm
Wow....that must have been trying for him, to say the least. That he did not strangle Armanidinnerjacket proves he really is the better man.
You know at this point maybe we should either come up with a new nickname for him or call him by his real name. Because the stuff we call him is longer than his given name :P
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on February 21, 2013, 03:35:40 pm
Wow....that must have been trying for him, to say the least. That he did not strangle Armanidinnerjacket proves he really is the better man.
You know at this point maybe we should either come up with a new nickname for him or call him by his real name. Because the stuff we call him is longer than his given name :P

It IS longer, but he always seems to wear shiny little jackets, so it's easy to remember the parody Vs actual spelling :P
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on February 22, 2013, 02:08:08 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/jwsKn35.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on February 22, 2013, 02:08:57 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/jwsKn35.jpg)

Just for the record, this sign was made by Egyptians as a call for peace between Christians and Muslims in their country.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on February 22, 2013, 02:19:55 pm
Please don't quote yourself like that, especially when you have a huge picture.  You can edit your post instead.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Jack Mann on February 22, 2013, 02:26:59 pm
To the best of my shoddy Arabic, the flag says:

"Egypt is One Heart and One Blood."

"Announcement of Egyptian Union."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on February 22, 2013, 03:13:24 pm
Please don't quote yourself like that, especially when you have a huge picture.  You can edit your post instead.

Yeah, that was a mistake.  I meant to edit it, but I quoted myself by accident.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Material Defender on February 22, 2013, 04:18:44 pm
I call the Iranian President: "Immaneedajob."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 22, 2013, 05:19:45 pm
I call the Iranian President: "Immaneedajob."

I prefer "armored dinner jacket."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 27, 2013, 08:33:30 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/06c2afb476ccb4a8f644831b94e4d552/tumblr_mgbko0veun1qzr04eo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on March 02, 2013, 08:29:41 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/06c2afb476ccb4a8f644831b94e4d552/tumblr_mgbko0veun1qzr04eo1_500.jpg)
More people need to recognize this. 

By the way, that sign reminds me of a quote:

“I think vital religion has always suffered when orthodoxy is more regarded than virtue. The scriptures assure me that at the last day we shall not be examined on what we thought but what we did.” - Benjamin Franklin.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 03, 2013, 08:53:37 pm
Speaking of scripture:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/3e5e729c348f7835784bd40969951335/tumblr_mgyc44gbby1r6lzjlo2_500.jpg)

And then there's this:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/39860212013899621d0c60db2b1dc98a/tumblr_mj3zyrgFqE1qc308no1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Caitshidhe on March 03, 2013, 11:39:11 pm
Yes, the Koran says that. And it says, "Make not Allah, in your oath, a hindrance to your being righteous and observing your duty unto Him and making peace among mankind." (Al-Baqara: 224) And, "(...)speak that which is kindlier." (Al-Isra: 53)

The Bible says, "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres." (1 Corinthians 13:4-8). As well as, "Love thy neighbour as thyself." (Mark 12:31)

The Koran also says, "But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads, whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted; and for them are hooked rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they would go forth from thence they are driven back therein and it is said unto them: Taste the doom of burning." (Al-Hajj: 19-22) And, "O ye who believe! Retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the murdered; the freeman for the freeman, and the slave for the slave, and the female for the female (...) He who transgresseth after this shall have a painful doom." (Al-Baqara: 178) As well as, "And whomsoever it is Allah's will to guide, He expandeth his bosom unto the Surrender, and whomsoever it is His Will to send astray, He maketh his bosom close and narrow as if he were engaged in sheer ascent. Thus Allah layeth ignominy upon those who believe not," (Al-Anaam: 125) and, "And slay them (disbelievers) wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. (...) And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah." (Al Baqara: 191 & 193) And let's not forget, "Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush." (At-Tawba: 5)

The Bible similarly contains such things as, "And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.  And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them." (2 Kings, 2:23-24) And, "For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth." (Genesis 7:4) And, "And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day. And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation. And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him. And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp. And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses." (Numbers 15:32-36)

The fucking point here is that both books contain cute, sweet things as well as horrible acts of hatred and pointless cruelty. Stop saying either one or the other is a religion or peace or whatever because neither of them is. Both Christianity and Islam are guilty of inspiring people to do horrible, terrible, massive injustices and used as justification for countless small ones. This is not okay. I don't care if you only pick the nice little parts of your particular flavour of religion--at the end of the day you choose to ignore the flagrant evil in your holy book and trying to insist it's 'peaceful' is the same blind, willful ignorance that the fundamentalists who blow up buildings have.

And I don't honestly care how many people I offend in saying this.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on March 03, 2013, 11:40:52 pm
The Koran says walls of text that are tl;dr?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Caitshidhe on March 03, 2013, 11:43:22 pm
Those, I think you'll find, are called paragraphs.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on March 04, 2013, 12:18:48 am
OH BURN!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dakota Bob on March 04, 2013, 02:46:54 am
@Caitshidhe
(http://i.imgur.com/lDUyVQw.gif)
All the +1's for you!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on March 04, 2013, 02:48:12 am
Those, I think you'll find, are called paragraphs.

Hey, give me a break.  I've done enough fucking reading this week of various things.  Well, read AND write.  I've been typing pretty prolifically, too.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on March 04, 2013, 03:52:12 am
Doesn't matter that was still rude dude.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on March 04, 2013, 08:32:17 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/31457_546741228681915_2013898637_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 04, 2013, 11:09:33 am
Doesn't matter that was still rude dude.

This. It was highly uncalled for, B.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 04, 2013, 03:57:49 pm
Those, I think you'll find, are called paragraphs.

Hey, give me a break.  I've done enough fucking reading this week of various things.  Well, read AND write.  I've been typing pretty prolifically, too.

Doesn't really matter, it was needlessly antagonistic.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheL on March 06, 2013, 08:52:17 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/39860212013899621d0c60db2b1dc98a/tumblr_mj3zyrgFqE1qc308no1_500.jpg)

Those Daleks are FABULOUS!

No, wait, didn't do that right.

They're (http://img41.glitterfy.com/13065/glitterfy3075157T596B81.gif)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Scotsgit on March 06, 2013, 09:47:33 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/39860212013899621d0c60db2b1dc98a/tumblr_mj3zyrgFqE1qc308no1_500.jpg)

Those Daleks are FABULOUS!

No, wait, didn't do that right.

They're (http://img41.glitterfy.com/13065/glitterfy3075157T596B81.gif)

NSFW:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfxyvrW-lUs
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on March 07, 2013, 12:59:54 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/72318_224865290992156_1041793807_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 08, 2013, 06:01:46 pm
Yes. I agree with that one. We've lost 20% of our income thanks to that shit.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DiscoBerry on March 09, 2013, 11:45:49 am
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/BSg7HsL_zpsb21b4bd2.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on March 09, 2013, 11:53:15 am
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/BSg7HsL_zpsb21b4bd2.jpg)

Hm.  That's awfully provocative.  I dunno if I should give it a Fuck Yeah! or a Fuck No! :/
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on March 09, 2013, 11:54:53 am
Doesn't matter that was still rude dude.

This. It was highly uncalled for, B.

Hey, I could've been a LOT more rude.  You people need to remove the sticks from your butts.  Seriously, chill out.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Auggziliary on March 09, 2013, 11:58:25 am
Doesn't matter that was still rude dude.

This. It was highly uncalled for, B.

Hey, I could've been a LOT more rude.  You people need to remove the sticks from your butts.  Seriously, chill out.

I think you need to apply that to yourself, in this case.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on March 09, 2013, 12:09:35 pm
Doesn't matter that was still rude dude.

This. It was highly uncalled for, B.

Hey, I could've been a LOT more rude.  You people need to remove the sticks from your butts.  Seriously, chill out.

I think you need to apply that to yourself, in this case.

Maybe.  I just think that the fact that I didn't want to immediately read something and otherwise withheld judgment on it (rather than attacking it's contents BLINDLY) needs to be recognized.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on March 09, 2013, 12:13:03 pm

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/72318_224865290992156_1041793807_n.jpg)
Go Orlando! I drove under that overpass a week ago. But I missed the LED protest awesomeness :(
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 09, 2013, 03:48:48 pm
Doesn't matter that was still rude dude.

This. It was highly uncalled for, B.

Hey, I could've been a LOT more rude.  You people need to remove the sticks from your butts.  Seriously, chill out.

I think you need to apply that to yourself, in this case.

Maybe.  I just think that the fact that I didn't want to immediately read something and otherwise withheld judgment on it (rather than attacking it's contents BLINDLY) needs to be recognized.

Withholding judgment on it would have been not replying to it at all until you were ready to reply to it.

Saying "tl;dr" to a post that contains well formulated paragraphs is attacking its contents blindly.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on March 11, 2013, 08:43:59 am
(http://i.imgur.com/BtKkzqO.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DiscoBerry on March 12, 2013, 10:05:08 am
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/166699_10151340089956275_898449705_n_zps8e2317af.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ThunderWulf on March 12, 2013, 10:09:55 am
(http://i.imgur.com/BtKkzqO.jpg)

Ba dum tish!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on March 18, 2013, 08:50:37 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/301669_10151481514739780_918152613_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 19, 2013, 12:52:49 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/301669_10151481514739780_918152613_n.jpg)

This is the reason I think Joseph was either just going along to get along, or was a complete, utter boob of the highest calibre.  (Fuck you, Firefox, I'm spelling it "calibre," and you're going to have to just accept that!)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 19, 2013, 01:09:38 am
I'm going with poor translation.  I think the original was young not virgin.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on March 19, 2013, 01:39:51 am
I'm going with poor translation.  I think the original was young not virgin.

Try telling that to some christians. In fact some branches claim that even Mary was born from a virgin birth.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on March 19, 2013, 02:20:19 am
Not impossible. A friend of mine told me that a friend of his worked at a pregnancy clinic, and that once a month or so they'd have a virgin birth--girls saving their physical virginity for marriage but still wanting penetrative sex would have anal sex, and sometimes the semen would leak out of the anus, into the vagina and cause impregnation, and, if carried to term, a virgin birth.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: FirsthandTuna on March 19, 2013, 07:53:11 am
Not impossible. A friend of mine told me that a friend of his worked at a pregnancy clinic, and that once a month or so they'd have a virgin birth--girls saving their physical virginity for marriage but still wanting penetrative sex would have anal sex, and sometimes the semen would leak out of the anus, into the vagina and cause impregnation, and, if carried to term, a virgin birth.

That's not really the same as "I'm pregnant because miracles". Not even close.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Distind on March 19, 2013, 08:12:24 am
Not impossible. A friend of mine told me that a friend of his worked at a pregnancy clinic, and that once a month or so they'd have a virgin birth--girls saving their physical virginity for marriage but still wanting penetrative sex would have anal sex, and sometimes the semen would leak out of the anus, into the vagina and cause impregnation, and, if carried to term, a virgin birth.

I'm going to save this for the next stupid teenager who thinks anal keeps them from getting pregnant. Thank you.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on March 19, 2013, 10:19:01 am
(Hey, it has to be said...)

So Jeebuz was a butt-sex baby?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on March 19, 2013, 10:57:21 am
(Hey, it has to be said...)

So Jeebuz was a butt-sex baby?

Is it wrong that this made me almost die of laughter??
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on March 19, 2013, 11:14:48 am
(Hey, it has to be said...)

So Jeebuz was a butt-sex baby?

Is it wrong that this made me almost die of laughter??

Yes. You are an evil, naughty girl and need to be punished. Now go to my room!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on March 19, 2013, 12:25:21 pm
(Hey, it has to be said...)

So Jeebuz was a butt-sex baby?

This was apparently said clinic worker's opinion. (Specifically, that Mary was an anal whore.)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on March 19, 2013, 01:12:38 pm
Yanno, if we could firewall against them trolling us back, I would totally paste this page over at raptard ready XD.....just to watch them 'splode!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on March 19, 2013, 02:53:15 pm
Yanno, if we could firewall against them trolling us back, I would totally paste this page over at raptard ready XD.....just to watch them 'splode!

Probability says their heads are already exploding as we speak, given that I'm sure a good amount are trolling as a "Guest".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Auggziliary on March 19, 2013, 02:56:52 pm
What would they use for lube in those times? Animal fat? ewww....
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on March 19, 2013, 03:01:24 pm
What would they use for lube in those times? Animal fat? ewww....

Probably, I mean both honey and dung were used as birth control methods way way back in the day so why not use animal fat as lube.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Auggziliary on March 19, 2013, 03:03:02 pm
What would they use for lube in those times? Animal fat? ewww....

Probably, I mean both honey and dung were used as birth control methods way way back in the day so...

Wait how does that work? Do you like... lube with poo and honey and it prevents u from getting pregnant?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Caitshidhe on March 19, 2013, 03:07:37 pm
Probably olive oil, as well, if they could afford it. A lot of people use that still.


Wait how does that work? Do you like... lube with poo and honey and it prevents u from getting pregnant?

I think dung works kind of like one of those BC sponges, you just stick it up in there and it catches most of the sperm. Although I've heard some kinds of dung have a high acid content that kills sperm, as well. Not sure how honey is supposed to work. I'd say maybe they hoped something thick like honey would slow the swimmers down enough that they wouldn't be able to do their thing, but I don't think they knew what sperm looked like way back then.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Auggziliary on March 19, 2013, 03:08:58 pm
ah..... poop vaginas.... goddamit
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on March 19, 2013, 03:15:39 pm
What would they use for lube in those times? Animal fat? ewww....

Probably, I mean both honey and dung were used as birth control methods way way back in the day so...

Wait how does that work? Do you like... lube with poo and honey and it prevents u from getting pregnant?

And I bet you thought that the sex education in your childhood was awkward.

All you had to endure was "We have this condom here and you roll it on the penis like this."

Kids back then had their lecture about how to cover your cock with shit, or for girls, that their boyfriend was about to cover his cock with shit and still expect to have sex with her. I wonder how they were able to maintain erection after that? Or was that how the birth control worked? "So... Do I just smear this on me or what?" "Uhhhh... Or we could just cuddle." "Yeah let's go with that."

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Jack Mann on March 19, 2013, 07:13:15 pm
I always figured it was something his followers made up after the fact to make him look holier.

Within the story itself, I prefer the interpretation that Joseph loved Mary enough that he didn't care.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on March 20, 2013, 01:24:14 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/562680_10151417630243702_1305463520_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on March 26, 2013, 03:36:25 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/305928_528606353858936_1228823908_n.png)

(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr03/2013/3/26/15/enhanced-buzz-30993-1364326029-8.jpg)

Someone is a Princess Bride fan... ;D
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on March 27, 2013, 02:30:47 am
And possibly a princess.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Meshakhad on March 27, 2013, 03:22:58 pm
I always figured it was something his followers made up after the fact to make him look holier.

Within the story itself, I prefer the interpretation that Joseph loved Mary enough that he didn't care.

I do like that approach. The question is, who is the father after all? I see four possibilities:
1. Mary was raped. In terms of what makes the best story, I like this one the best. Mary remains innocent, and Joseph gets points for not rejecting her.
2. Mary cheated. Works better for Mary, but then she's a sinner as well. Although Joseph then gets mongo points for forgiving Mary.
3. Joseph himself - they did it before the wedding, and used the virgin birth story to cover it up.
4. The virgin birth story was made up after Jesus died. Jesus was conceived within wedlock after all.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 28, 2013, 02:45:02 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/dae86ecf033dcfddd52e9f1da2f6c103/tumblr_mkai04b2s21rqyfj4o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on March 28, 2013, 02:48:28 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/dae86ecf033dcfddd52e9f1da2f6c103/tumblr_mkai04b2s21rqyfj4o1_500.jpg)

This makes me wonder how many interracial couples have one or both partners opposing same-sex marriage.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Vypernight on March 28, 2013, 04:43:10 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/dae86ecf033dcfddd52e9f1da2f6c103/tumblr_mkai04b2s21rqyfj4o1_500.jpg)

This makes me wonder how many interracial couples have one or both partners opposing same-sex marriage.

Reminds me of the black lady (I think on a video shown on The Daily Show) who said, "Thank God for my right to vote away gay marriage!"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on March 28, 2013, 11:35:44 am

Reminds me of the black lady (I think on a video shown on The Daily Show) who said, "Thank God for my right to vote away gay marriage!"

I got mine, fuck everyone else!!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on March 28, 2013, 11:57:29 am

Reminds me of the black lady (I think on a video shown on The Daily Show) who said, "Thank God for my right to vote away gay marriage!"

I got mine, fuck everyone else!!

A former colleague of mine had this exact attitude when it came to implementing a single-payer health insurance system in the US--his private insurance was a sweet deal, so why should he give a damn about anyone else?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Caitshidhe on March 28, 2013, 12:03:38 pm

Reminds me of the black lady (I think on a video shown on The Daily Show) who said, "Thank God for my right to vote away gay marriage!"

Yanno, it never fails to boggle my mind how any minority group can be this stupid and bigoted. And it doesn't really matter how many times or how many ways it's explained to them--they refuse to see the issues are more or less the same and refuse to see how hypocritical it is. Just about every single solitary argument being used against gay marriage rights was used to deny racial minorities equal rights, to grant women equal rights, to allow mixed-race couples the right to marry. You could (and people HAVE) just replace the words for 'black' in any pre-integration speech or article or essay against equal rights and substitute 'gay' and have identical arguments to what's being used now. Arguments that the anti-equality crowd--including the minorities!!--will wholeheartedly agree with.

The mind, she boggles.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Damen on March 28, 2013, 12:43:40 pm
Yanno, it never fails to boggle my mind how any minority group can be this stupid and bigoted. And it doesn't really matter how many times or how many ways it's explained to them--they refuse to see the issues are more or less the same and refuse to see how hypocritical it is. Just about every single solitary argument being used against gay marriage rights was used to deny racial minorities equal rights, to grant women equal rights, to allow mixed-race couples the right to marry. You could (and people HAVE) just replace the words for 'black' in any pre-integration speech or article or essay against equal rights and substitute 'gay' and have identical arguments to what's being used now. Arguments that the anti-equality crowd--including the minorities!!--will wholeheartedly agree with.

The mind, she boggles.

Because if you give any oppressed group the chance and they will happily become oppressors themselves.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 28, 2013, 01:46:43 pm

Reminds me of the black lady (I think on a video shown on The Daily Show) who said, "Thank God for my right to vote away gay marriage!"

Yanno, it never fails to boggle my mind how any minority group can be this stupid and bigoted. And it doesn't really matter how many times or how many ways it's explained to them--they refuse to see the issues are more or less the same and refuse to see how hypocritical it is. Just about every single solitary argument being used against gay marriage rights was used to deny racial minorities equal rights, to grant women equal rights, to allow mixed-race couples the right to marry. You could (and people HAVE) just replace the words for 'black' in any pre-integration speech or article or essay against equal rights and substitute 'gay' and have identical arguments to what's being used now. Arguments that the anti-equality crowd--including the minorities!!--will wholeheartedly agree with.

The mind, she boggles.

I think it's the same reason some abused people will become abusers.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on March 28, 2013, 08:27:12 pm
Not a protest sign, but saw this on tumblr:

Quote
But are we really that surprised that these two young men [at Steubenville] didn’t think their actions were wrong?

Videos of men running up to women they don’t know just to grab their ass or stomach and run away are played for laughs on shows like Tosh.0. (The show is run by a comedian who garnered tremendous support after he “joked” about a woman in his audience being gang raped.) A “funny” montage of women’s breasts shown at the Oscars included rape scenes. We have handfuls of qualifiers—date, legitimate, forcible, gray—that we throw in front of “rape” because we want to know if an assault was a “real” rape or one of those non-rapes Republican politicians keep talking about.

And it’s not just rape that’s the joke—it’s women. Our very existence is presented to young men as fodder for sex and laughs, our humiliation and pain as goalposts for their masculinity. While mainstream culture fools itself into thinking that Americans take rape seriously, most women know better. We get the joke. We’re just tired of being the punchline.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Her3tiK on March 28, 2013, 09:45:05 pm
Not a protest sign, but saw this on tumblr:

Quote
But are we really that surprised that these two young men [at Steubenville] didn’t think their actions were wrong?

Videos of men running up to women they don’t know just to grab their ass or stomach and run away are played for laughs on shows like Tosh.0. (The show is run by a comedian who garnered tremendous support after he “joked” about a woman in his audience being gang raped.) A “funny” montage of women’s breasts shown at the Oscars included rape scenes. We have handfuls of qualifiers—date, legitimate, forcible, gray—that we throw in front of “rape” because we want to know if an assault was a “real” rape or one of those non-rapes Republican politicians keep talking about.

And it’s not just rape that’s the joke—it’s women. Our very existence is presented to young men as fodder for sex and laughs, our humiliation and pain as goalposts for their masculinity. While mainstream culture fools itself into thinking that Americans take rape seriously, most women know better. We get the joke. We’re just tired of being the punchline.
Oh yay, another opportunity to derail a thread into a rape joke discussion.... >_>
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DiscoBerry on March 30, 2013, 04:37:51 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/28181_632182333475084_2009446726_n_zpsedeccfdf.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on April 06, 2013, 03:20:34 am
(http://static.happyplace.com/assets/images/2013/03/51521ba45b8ba.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Scotsgit on April 07, 2013, 11:41:12 am
(http://static.happyplace.com/assets/images/2013/03/51521ba45b8ba.jpg)

Well, apart from when some right-wing politician tries to cottage you in a public toilet.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Veras on April 07, 2013, 11:42:56 am
(http://static.happyplace.com/assets/images/2013/03/51521ba45b8ba.jpg)

Sex every night?

Whoever wrote that clearly isn't married.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 21, 2013, 09:21:06 pm
From our friends across the pond:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/d2bb0384977a809428fad3b5186f2023/tumblr_mlmj6yLpiw1r1thtao1_500.jpg)

There's also a banner two runners at London Marathon held as they crossed the finish line but I can't find that one.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RinellaWasHere on April 21, 2013, 09:22:57 pm
From our friends across the pond:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/d2bb0384977a809428fad3b5186f2023/tumblr_mlmj6yLpiw1r1thtao1_500.jpg)

There's also a banner two runners at London Marathon held as they crossed the finish line but I can't find that one.

This one got my right in the gut. Magnificent.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ThunderWulf on April 21, 2013, 11:20:10 pm
From our friends across the pond:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/d2bb0384977a809428fad3b5186f2023/tumblr_mlmj6yLpiw1r1thtao1_500.jpg)

There's also a banner two runners at London Marathon held as they crossed the finish line but I can't find that one.

If one good thing comes of tragedies, it shows how the human race can come together as a whole in its aftermath.

(If only we could do that with out atrocities being carried out first :( )
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Her3tiK on April 22, 2013, 01:40:35 am
From our friends across the pond:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/d2bb0384977a809428fad3b5186f2023/tumblr_mlmj6yLpiw1r1thtao1_500.jpg)

There's also a banner two runners at London Marathon held as they crossed the finish line but I can't find that one.

If one good thing comes of tragedies, it shows how the human race can come together as a whole in its aftermath.

(If only we could do that with out atrocities being carried out first :( )
Ha, human race! I see what you did there.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on April 22, 2013, 02:07:56 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/bea10213f9451d881f545a1bdfcb8918/tumblr_mkcj7fwbyD1rzlhg6o1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 22, 2013, 02:14:37 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/8a338c7ee2334605429e611b777bd36a/tumblr_mlgairbIWm1qak0qdo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: erictheblue on April 22, 2013, 07:03:15 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/8a338c7ee2334605429e611b777bd36a/tumblr_mlgairbIWm1qak0qdo1_500.jpg)

I just cried a little (in happiness).
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on April 23, 2013, 09:05:57 am
(http://feministphilosophers.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/tumblr_lrecnkv6kg1qd5p7ho1_500.jpg)
Found this in a thread about rape on this very site.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on April 23, 2013, 09:08:11 am
(http://feministphilosophers.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/tumblr_lrecnkv6kg1qd5p7ho1_500.jpg)
Found this in a thread about rape on this very site.

Pure Awesome!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on April 23, 2013, 11:02:56 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5jfds5Qpo1qg1mhyo1_500.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5jfds5Qpo1qg1mhyo2_250.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on April 23, 2013, 11:24:46 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5jfds5Qpo1qg1mhyo1_500.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5jfds5Qpo1qg1mhyo2_250.jpg)

WIN!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on April 23, 2013, 11:25:08 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2p80jj9qj1qb0hado1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ThunderWulf on April 24, 2013, 12:35:42 am
(http://feministphilosophers.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/tumblr_lrecnkv6kg1qd5p7ho1_500.jpg)
Found this in a thread about rape on this very site.

(http://webanswers.com/post-images/C/C5/2B133EB7-89CE-4FF5-B29CA1FC0CF784CA.gif)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on April 24, 2013, 03:30:00 am
(http://feministphilosophers.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/tumblr_lrecnkv6kg1qd5p7ho1_500.jpg)
Found this in a thread about rape on this very site.

Pure Awesome!

Meh.  I like everything but the "Fuck the patriarchy!" bit at the end.  I see that and I think "The author has a thing against men."

I'm not saying the ending invalidates the message, but I'm sensing bitterness against males from that ending.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SCarpelan on April 24, 2013, 04:56:52 am
I'm not saying the ending invalidates the message, but I'm sensing bitterness against males from that ending.
Patriarchy is a system, not a gender. Many females are doing their own part in upholding and supporting patriarchy and many males are criticizing and resisting it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 24, 2013, 09:16:36 am
Patriarchy hurts men, too...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ThunderWulf on April 24, 2013, 12:44:02 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/72523_600102253342228_978445073_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on April 24, 2013, 01:23:24 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/Q3D80JG.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Random Gal on April 24, 2013, 01:34:36 pm
"OMG THEY DREW MOHAMMED!!!!"

*cue people responding to sign by behaving like psychopaths*
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 24, 2013, 01:45:31 pm
"OMG THEY DREW MOHAMMED!!!!"

*cue people responding to sign by behaving like psychopaths*

...Is it bad that this was my first thought too?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on April 24, 2013, 02:32:54 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/72523_600102253342228_978445073_n.jpg)

That sign is brilliant.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 24, 2013, 02:45:59 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/2a1dfbbb376eba32035d04490787ca50/tumblr_mlrps5kTm81sngbilo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Southern Comforter on April 24, 2013, 02:52:16 pm
Not sure if anyone's posted this yet, but

(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404732_10151403331971275_1857622977_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on April 24, 2013, 02:57:02 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/72523_600102253342228_978445073_n.jpg)

Is it wrong that my first thought was, "Can I watch?"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on April 24, 2013, 03:08:49 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/72523_600102253342228_978445073_n.jpg)

Is it wrong that my first thought was, "Can I watch?"

Meh. Blame the porn industry and your natural love of the female ascetic and enjoy the fantasy...I know you're too smart to try peeping IRL...right? :P

Love the sign, and it's so true - she's a cutie!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 25, 2013, 02:54:29 pm
Spuki, edit your posts together, don't make three posts in a row like that, please.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on April 25, 2013, 03:29:11 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/934848_649950091697172_474058329_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on April 25, 2013, 03:43:56 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/934848_649950091697172_474058329_n.jpg)

Yeah (http://www.exxonmobil.com/Corporate/investor_governance_incorporation.aspx), those (http://www.monsanto.com/whoweare/Pages/certificate-of-incorporation.aspx) are (http://www.nestle.com/asset-library/Documents/Library/Documents/Corporate_Governance/Articles-of-Association-of-Nestle-SA.pdf) a (http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/320187/000032018705000124/exhibit-3_1.txt) thing (http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/45012/000004501206000247/restatedcertofincorp.htm).
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on April 25, 2013, 04:30:58 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/934848_649950091697172_474058329_n.jpg)

Yeah (http://www.exxonmobil.com/Corporate/investor_governance_incorporation.aspx), those (http://www.monsanto.com/whoweare/Pages/certificate-of-incorporation.aspx) are (http://www.nestle.com/asset-library/Documents/Library/Documents/Corporate_Governance/Articles-of-Association-of-Nestle-SA.pdf) a (http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/320187/000032018705000124/exhibit-3_1.txt) thing (http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/45012/000004501206000247/restatedcertofincorp.htm).

But they're not BIRTH CERTIFICATES!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Distind on April 25, 2013, 04:48:41 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/934848_649950091697172_474058329_n.jpg)

Yeah (http://www.exxonmobil.com/Corporate/investor_governance_incorporation.aspx), those (http://www.monsanto.com/whoweare/Pages/certificate-of-incorporation.aspx) are (http://www.nestle.com/asset-library/Documents/Library/Documents/Corporate_Governance/Articles-of-Association-of-Nestle-SA.pdf) a (http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/320187/000032018705000124/exhibit-3_1.txt) thing (http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/45012/000004501206000247/restatedcertofincorp.htm).

But they're not BIRTH CERTIFICATES!
We want the long form, with a raised seal and foot prints.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on April 25, 2013, 11:13:10 pm
Not sure if anyone's posted this yet, but

(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404732_10151403331971275_1857622977_n.jpg)

YES!
"OMG THEY DREW MOHAMMED!!!!"

*cue people responding to sign by behaving like psychopaths*

...Is it bad that this was my first thought too?

Me, too. But this Mohammed is AWESOME!
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/72523_600102253342228_978445073_n.jpg)

MOAR WIN!
Spuki, edit your posts together, don't make three posts in a row like that, please.

Oops! DAMMIT! I DID IT AGAIN!

I feel dumb!


FIXED IT!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on April 26, 2013, 11:01:30 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/7gwob03.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 26, 2013, 11:12:06 pm
Some people sure as hell try, though.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DiscoBerry on April 27, 2013, 03:33:45 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/RVts6fY_zps694b5795.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kit Walker on April 27, 2013, 06:17:33 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/RVts6fY_zps694b5795.jpg)

Y'know, as a broadcasting major, I resent this. Yes, corporate interests play a role in what gets on the air (we need sponsor money to live), but the biggest interest in deciding what gets on the air is what gets ratings. It's part of why "missing white woman syndrome" exists. And "rich" only really applies to the cable folks, but that's most likely who the person painting that was thinking of anyways.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on April 28, 2013, 07:21:03 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/orMUWwX.jpg)
Biblical definition of marriage, huh?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on April 28, 2013, 07:38:57 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/RVts6fY_zps694b5795.jpg)

Y'know, as a broadcasting major, I resent this. Yes, corporate interests play a role in what gets on the air (we need sponsor money to live), but the biggest interest in deciding what gets on the air is what gets ratings. It's part of why "missing white woman syndrome" exists. And "rich" only really applies to the cable folks, but that's most likely who the person painting that was thinking of anyways.

Yeah, if the sign started out with Fox News, it would be spot on.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: wrightway on April 28, 2013, 07:59:29 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/7gwob03.jpg)

Where can you get this shirt?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on April 28, 2013, 08:14:16 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/7gwob03.jpg)

Well, actually, you can cherry-pick logic. It's called hypocrisy or special pleading.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on April 29, 2013, 01:23:04 am
So after seeing yet another conservatard wank off to anti-Obama stuff, I was inspired to make a meme that could count as a protest sign.

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3u5ew7/
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on April 29, 2013, 06:21:26 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/2E6SdfV.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 01, 2013, 10:19:24 am
Excellent!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 01, 2013, 10:20:06 am
Excellent!
Thanks, Newbie.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: wrightway on May 01, 2013, 11:05:47 am
Do you have a link for sharing it on LJ?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 01, 2013, 11:18:23 am
Do you have a link for sharing it on LJ?
What do you mean?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 01, 2013, 01:43:48 pm
Here's one for all the people annoyed by weaboos.

(http://i.imgur.com/y8Hgvm8.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 01, 2013, 05:54:32 pm
I honestly can't tell if that's a joke or serious, but it's certainly a lot cooler than weeaboos generally are, regardless.

In a way I kinda hope it is serious.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 01, 2013, 06:23:54 pm
Pretty sure it's a joke, but it definitely shows how ridiculous the average weeaboo is.  Of course, sometimes ridiculousness can be a good thing.  I've heard about weaboos so absurd that they loop right back into being awesome.

Much like the guy I just showed, come to think of it...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: wrightway on May 01, 2013, 07:00:25 pm
Do you have a link for sharing it on LJ?
What do you mean?

I'm running off a tablet. I wanted to share that on LJ but I'd need a link, if you don't mind.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 01, 2013, 07:21:23 pm
Do you have a link for sharing it on LJ?
What do you mean?

I'm running off a tablet. I wanted to share that on LJ but I'd need a link, if you don't mind.
Sure.  Here: http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/dz4f5cdc06.jpg
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on May 01, 2013, 08:08:46 pm
Here's one for all the people annoyed by weaboos.

(http://i.imgur.com/y8Hgvm8.png)

A REVERSE-WEABOO! Brilliant satire! I give it 5 Horseshoes!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on May 01, 2013, 08:14:38 pm
Could someone explain what a weaboo is please?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: wrightway on May 01, 2013, 08:20:36 pm
Do you have a link for sharing it on LJ?
What do you mean?

I'm running off a tablet. I wanted to share that on LJ but I'd need a link, if you don't mind.
Sure.  Here: http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/dz4f5cdc06.jpg

Thank you!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on May 01, 2013, 08:22:43 pm
Could someone explain what a weaboo is please?

I had the same question & decided to "google" it. It's a n Occidental, likely an American, who's love for animanga & all things Japan is taken to extremes...to the point where they wish they were Japanese but totally get Japanese culture wrong! A messed up hyper-Japanophile.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 01, 2013, 08:23:26 pm
Could someone explain what a weaboo is please?

Someone who is so obsessed with Japanese culture (or their idea of it anyways) that they strive to adopt it in almost every fashion possible.

I got ninja'd but I'm posting it anyways because fuck you I'm bored.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on May 01, 2013, 08:25:39 pm
Could someone explain what a weaboo is please?

Someone who is so obsessed with Japanese culture (or their idea of it anyways) that they strive to adopt it in almost every fashion possible.

I got ninja'd but I'm posting it anyways because fuck you I'm bored.

Sorry about my mad ninja skills. :P
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on May 01, 2013, 08:29:02 pm
Could someone explain what a weaboo is please?

Someone who is so obsessed with Japanese culture (or their idea of it anyways) that they strive to adopt it in almost every fashion possible.

I got ninja'd but I'm posting it anyways because fuck you I'm bored.

Yep.  A weaboo is pretty much someone who tries to emulate Japanese culture, but learned all they know about the culture through Anime and Manga.  At least, I think that's a good description.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kit Walker on May 01, 2013, 10:32:35 pm
I believe a rather on point SNL Sketch (http://www.hulu.com/watch/289406) referred to it as shallow and cartoon based understanding of Japanese culture.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 02, 2013, 01:50:53 pm
For those who think the term "weaboo" is overused.

(http://i.imgur.com/olvOXI7.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 02, 2013, 03:47:28 pm
For those who think the term "weaboo" is overused.

(http://i.imgur.com/olvOXI7.jpg)
Does this mean weaboos are self-loathing?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Caitshidhe on May 02, 2013, 03:50:03 pm
Sometimes! It's a weird form of self-hate some weebs have, hating their actual nationality/race and wishing they were Japanese.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 02, 2013, 04:37:25 pm
Depends as I hate my nationality
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 02, 2013, 04:39:19 pm
Depends as I hate my nationality
That reminds me of a question.  What's the opposite of a xenophobe?  Is there a word for it?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on May 02, 2013, 05:23:18 pm
Xenophile would be the obvious choice, but that implies less "I hate my country" and more "I love foreign stuff".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 02, 2013, 06:21:51 pm
I would say anti-national but that doesn't seem right either.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 03, 2013, 08:12:26 am
(http://i.imgur.com/niF02dg.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on May 03, 2013, 11:20:02 am
(http://i.imgur.com/niF02dg.jpg)

AMEN!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on May 03, 2013, 11:59:28 am
(http://i.imgur.com/niF02dg.jpg)

Couldn't have said it better myself, especially since CEOs have a thing about hoarding money, instead of spending it, like giving a decent wage and work hours to their employees.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 03, 2013, 01:46:36 pm
Just goes to show, rich people aren't the only job creators.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 03, 2013, 10:22:42 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/7fa8f32bae24afe0c5fea35d5aa0e169/tumblr_mm5p9g6ZgD1qboyb8o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: JohnE on May 03, 2013, 10:29:15 pm
Legalize both!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on May 03, 2013, 11:19:13 pm
Fuck both!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on May 03, 2013, 11:22:04 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/934848_649950091697172_474058329_n.jpg)

Yeah (http://www.exxonmobil.com/Corporate/investor_governance_incorporation.aspx), those (http://www.monsanto.com/whoweare/Pages/certificate-of-incorporation.aspx) are (http://www.nestle.com/asset-library/Documents/Library/Documents/Corporate_Governance/Articles-of-Association-of-Nestle-SA.pdf) a (http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/320187/000032018705000124/exhibit-3_1.txt) thing (http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/45012/000004501206000247/restatedcertofincorp.htm).

But they're not BIRTH CERTIFICATES!
We want the long form, with a raised seal and foot prints.
I have one but it's from a multinational in Kenya.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 05, 2013, 11:05:52 am
(http://i.imgur.com/qP2OJrR.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 05, 2013, 12:34:57 pm
yeah....the we're all human defense doesn't always work
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on May 05, 2013, 09:02:19 pm
yeah....the we're all human defense doesn't always work

"That's so politically correct." <- douchebag bells are going off in my head
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 05, 2013, 09:11:56 pm
Being color blind doesn't work
I think the PC argument is similar to godwin you use it to shut down the argument
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ottery on May 05, 2013, 09:50:46 pm
Being color blind doesn't work
I think the PC argument is similar to godwin you use it to shut down the argument

Yeah, being "color blind" pretty much is ignoring the (actual) differences between races and their histories.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 05, 2013, 10:11:19 pm
There's a difference between outright ignoring someone's race and not using it as a basis upon which to judge them.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 05, 2013, 10:15:47 pm
"Positive discrimination is still discrimination.  Equality is all about being equal."

Why do I get the feeling that this person wants all government aid to be cut off to education because of this line alone?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 05, 2013, 10:18:12 pm
"Positive discrimination is still discrimination.  Equality is all about being equal."

Why do I get the feeling that this person wants all government aid to be cut off to education because of this line alone?
...Why do you get that feeling?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 05, 2013, 10:35:21 pm
Because it's the kinda of stuff I hear from people who think that any government aid to blacks is "positive discrimination"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 05, 2013, 10:36:44 pm
Pretty much stop positive discrimination is what you hear from the anti AA crowd,
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Auri-El on May 05, 2013, 10:43:21 pm
I don't think it's about stopping government aid, but affirmative action. Which are two totally different arguments.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 05, 2013, 10:51:57 pm
I just said that.  Either way still a bad argument
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ottery on May 05, 2013, 11:26:37 pm
There's a difference between outright ignoring someone's race and not using it as a basis upon which to judge them.

Not using someone's race to judge them is actually what is called "decent". :) For most people, colorblindness is the idea that ignoring or overlooking racial and ethnic differences promotes racial harmony. Which it obviously doesn't. It obviously benefits white people, who never have to question whether or not their race is being held in question when they apply for a job. It benefits them not to question that because it makes it look like they got here on their own.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 06, 2013, 06:08:52 am
The point of the sign is that minorities can be racist too.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Yla on May 06, 2013, 06:54:36 am
The poster is great, until the 'That's so politically correct'. Everything from then on made me raise my eyebrows.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 06, 2013, 07:09:06 am
Okay, so maybe it can come off as a little insensitive, but that doesn't invalidate its point.  Besides, it's probably more against the notion that minorities are somehow morally superior than anything else.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on May 06, 2013, 07:39:26 am
Racism is a system of economic discrimination against people of a particular ethnicity and the ideas enforcing that system. It's almost impossible for an ethnic minority to be racist unless they're mercenary.

Basically conservatives are saying "Would that the world treated everyone equally, but if you do anything to achieve that, you're a racist". Well, fuck you. Bet you didn't think of that, did you?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 06, 2013, 07:56:10 am
Saying stop positive discrimination is code for stop AA
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 06, 2013, 08:02:49 am
Racism is a system of economic discrimination against people of a particular ethnicity and the ideas enforcing that system. It's almost impossible for an ethnic minority to be racist unless they're mercenary.

Basically conservatives are saying "Would that the world treated everyone equally, but if you do anything to achieve that, you're a racist". Well, fuck you. Bet you didn't think of that, did you?
Shouldn't you be writing a social justice tumblr?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 06, 2013, 08:19:44 am
Rolls eyes if he could (seriously I do not have that skill)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 06, 2013, 08:53:08 am
Regardless of your opinion on Affirmative Action, it does make a good point.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Distind on May 06, 2013, 09:42:09 am
The point of the sign is that minorities can be racist too.
They can, but that sign is a right shitty way of 'saying' it. Use actual examples rather than trying to tap into a kneejerk reaction and failing. When I look at that sign I don't see a racist, I see someone had the time to make a really lousy sign that fails to make it's point in any way other than assuming people will call white people racist on reflex, which isn't terribly true outside of tumblr SJWs.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on May 06, 2013, 10:26:10 am
Racism is a system of economic discrimination against people of a particular ethnicity and the ideas enforcing that system. It's almost impossible for an ethnic minority to be racist unless they're mercenary.

Basically conservatives are saying "Would that the world treated everyone equally, but if you do anything to achieve that, you're a racist". Well, fuck you. Bet you didn't think of that, did you?

Actually, racism is the idea that certain races are somehow inherently superior or inferior to others. You see this in the stereotypes that all blacks are either athletic or lazy, that all Asians are good at math but terrible drivers, and yes, in the idea that it's impossible for minorities to be racist.

Now, racism in attitude has often led to economic racism, even today, but that doesn't mean "racism=inflicted economic disadvantage". Having spent time in prison, I can tell you categorically that stereotyping and assumptions of superiority or inferiority are FAR from limited to whites.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 06, 2013, 10:28:18 am
Racism is a system of economic discrimination against people of a particular ethnicity and the ideas enforcing that system. It's almost impossible for an ethnic minority to be racist unless they're mercenary.

Basically conservatives are saying "Would that the world treated everyone equally, but if you do anything to achieve that, you're a racist". Well, fuck you. Bet you didn't think of that, did you?

Actually, racism is the idea that certain races are somehow inherently superior or inferior to others. You see this in the stereotypes that all blacks are either athletic or lazy, that all Asians are good at math but terrible drivers, and yes, in the idea that it's impossible for minorities to be racist.

Now, racism in attitude has often led to economic racism, even today, but that doesn't mean "racism=inflicted economic disadvantage". Having spent time in prison, I can tell you categorically that stereotyping and assumptions of superiority or inferiority are FAR from limited to whites.
THANK YOU!  I've been saying that for years.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 06, 2013, 11:35:05 am
Great sign!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 06, 2013, 11:36:12 am
For everyone sick of Social Justice idiots complaining about privilege:

(http://i.imgur.com/cDGTkNq.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Distind on May 06, 2013, 11:44:44 am
I've never understood the menality that goes 'Yeah, well someone else totally has it worse so fuck you'. Here's an idea, drop the front that you're out to save everyone in the world and admit that you really only give a shit about your pet causes. It'd help, people might believe you then.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: wrightway on May 06, 2013, 12:58:52 pm
Didn't Chris Rock have a bit about the most racist guy at work being an elderly black man?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 06, 2013, 02:18:30 pm
Sigh I give up
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Damen on May 06, 2013, 04:11:01 pm
Didn't Chris Rock have a bit about the most racist guy at work being an elderly black man?

Yup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3U4-mv5_08
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ThunderWulf on May 06, 2013, 04:46:28 pm
For everyone sick of Social Justice idiots complaining about privilege:

(http://i.imgur.com/cDGTkNq.jpg)

*twitch*

Uuuuugggghhh...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: QueenofHearts on May 06, 2013, 05:05:02 pm
For everyone sick of Social Justice idiots complaining about privilege:

-image-

I had dinner a little over a month ago with Diane Moore, a professor in ethics & devinity from Harvard, and she defined privilege really well. She said "Priviliege is the privilege to ignore injustice." We can all sit here and look at a photo of a white straight man who has it rough, and of course many do, but it doesn't do any good to ignore that various other groups in the aggregate have it worse off because they are black, or gay, or female. Of course there are homeless white men. However, let's not ignore that minorities, both racial and sexual, are for more likely to be homeless than the general population. Let's not ignore that we have people making rape apologies yet not apologies for male victims or other crimes. If we really are aiming for some sort of equality, then addressing underlying bigotries which cause these discrepancies is the first place to start.

Likewise, just because a few SJW's have poisoned the term does not mean that it isn't a very real thing.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Yla on May 06, 2013, 05:34:30 pm
Likewise, just because a few SJW's have poisoned the term does not mean that it isn't a very real thing.
This
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ottery on May 06, 2013, 06:06:11 pm
Likewise, just because a few SJW's have poisoned the term does not mean that it isn't a very real thing.
This

Exactly. Many trans homeless are turned away from homeless shelters, and god forbid some drunk asshole finds out that you don't fit their definition of "male" or "female". You will almost always get killed. If you manage to defend yourself? The police will arrest you but not the fuckface that started the fight in the first place.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ThunderWulf on May 06, 2013, 06:07:58 pm
For everyone sick of Social Justice idiots complaining about privilege:

-image-

I had dinner a little over a month ago with Diane Moore, a professor in ethics & devinity from Harvard, and she defined privilege really well. She said "Priviliege is the privilege to ignore injustice." We can all sit here and look at a photo of a white straight man who has it rough, and of course many do, but it doesn't do any good to ignore that various other groups in the aggregate have it worse off because they are black, or gay, or female. Of course there are homeless white men. However, let's not ignore that minorities, both racial and sexual, are for more likely to be homeless than the general population. Let's not ignore that we have people making rape apologies yet not apologies for male victims or other crimes. If we really are aiming for some sort of equality, then addressing underlying bigotries which cause these discrepancies is the first place to start.

Likewise, just because a few SJW's have poisoned the term does not mean that it isn't a very real thing.

I don't think anyone's debating that, at least not here anyways, and I totally agree with that.  I just think it's annoying when people automatically assume that just because I'm a cis white straight guy that my life is automatically all sunshine and rainbows.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 06, 2013, 08:42:09 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/eEmTPsI.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 06, 2013, 08:47:07 pm
Sigh I really do give up
and Atlas Shrugged sure made him shrug.  Seriously the book weighs a ton
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on May 06, 2013, 08:47:31 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/eEmTPsI.jpg)

 ;D HOORAY FOR HOBBITS! ;D
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on May 06, 2013, 09:07:37 pm
Racism is a system of economic discrimination against people of a particular ethnicity and the ideas enforcing that system. It's almost impossible for an ethnic minority to be racist unless they're mercenary.

Basically conservatives are saying "Would that the world treated everyone equally, but if you do anything to achieve that, you're a racist". Well, fuck you. Bet you didn't think of that, did you?

Actually, racism is the idea that certain races are somehow inherently superior or inferior to others. You see this in the stereotypes that all blacks are either athletic or lazy, that all Asians are good at math but terrible drivers, and yes, in the idea that it's impossible for minorities to be racist.

Now, racism in attitude has often led to economic racism, even today, but that doesn't mean "racism=inflicted economic disadvantage". Having spent time in prison, I can tell you categorically that stereotyping and assumptions of superiority or inferiority are FAR from limited to whites.

No, racism is basically structural. The ideas are very much secondary to the economics. How do I know? Racism is actually modern. It is not the case that racism is human nature. When, in around the 15th century, racism became economically vital for Europe (colonialism, ect) of course ideas arose to justify that.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on May 06, 2013, 09:35:12 pm
Racism is a system of economic discrimination against people of a particular ethnicity and the ideas enforcing that system. It's almost impossible for an ethnic minority to be racist unless they're mercenary.

Basically conservatives are saying "Would that the world treated everyone equally, but if you do anything to achieve that, you're a racist". Well, fuck you. Bet you didn't think of that, did you?

Actually, racism is the idea that certain races are somehow inherently superior or inferior to others. You see this in the stereotypes that all blacks are either athletic or lazy, that all Asians are good at math but terrible drivers, and yes, in the idea that it's impossible for minorities to be racist.

Now, racism in attitude has often led to economic racism, even today, but that doesn't mean "racism=inflicted economic disadvantage". Having spent time in prison, I can tell you categorically that stereotyping and assumptions of superiority or inferiority are FAR from limited to whites.

No, racism is basically structural. The ideas are very much secondary to the economics. How do I know? Racism is actually modern. It is not the case that racism is human nature. When, in around the 15th century, racism became economically vital for Europe (colonialism, ect) of course ideas arose to justify that.

When did I ever make the claim that racism was human nature? It's human nature to (generally) be most comfortable with those who are most obviously like ourselves, but "comfort" doesn't equal "superiority."

As for your economic argument, that's very much a chicken-and-egg proposition. After all, what defines a race? There have been times in the past when the English would describe the Irish in ways that wouldn't be at all out of place in a modern KKK rant about black people. Chattel slavery as we saw practiced by Europeans enslaving Africans is a relatively recent phenomenon in world history (at least, to my knowledge), but the idea that we should be wary and distrustful of people who are visibly unlike ourselves is FAR from new. Chinese and Japanese culture still have strong undercurrents of racism against anyone who isn't "one of us", and the caste system of India was originally set up partly along ethnic lines, with darker-skinned ethnic groups being relegated to lower castes. The Old Testament even gives instructions that the ancient Jews not intermarry with other tribes; at that time, ideas that we would label "racism" and "tribalism" were almost completely interchangeable, because, as you pointed out, the concept of "race" being defined by skin color wasn't around yet.

Even allowing, for the sake of the thought experiment, that your proposition may be true...how, exactly, does that make it "not-racism" for a black person to say "all white people are racist" or "white people in general are greedier than other races"...both things I've had said to my face? How does it make their attitudes any less wrong? And if their attitudes AREN'T a form of racism, what would you call it?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: booley on May 07, 2013, 01:29:09 am
For everyone sick of Social Justice idiots complaining about privilege:

(http://i.imgur.com/cDGTkNq.jpg)

Oh for Gad's sake, it's not a contest, people!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 07, 2013, 10:56:48 am
Whether racism - or tribalism, originally - is innate or indoctrinated with humans, certainly "Kick 'em while their down"....is...too common a reflex :-[
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 07, 2013, 07:53:06 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/Ss0L5lc.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on May 07, 2013, 08:54:06 pm
I am really 9000% done with this idea that all social justice blogs are run by fucking whackjobs. Most of them are actually pretty good and I think most members of this forum would like the statistics they bring up.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 07, 2013, 08:59:01 pm
I am really 9000% done with this idea that all social justice blogs are run by fucking whackjobs. Most of them are actually pretty good and I think most members of this forum would like the statistics they bring up.
This
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 07, 2013, 08:59:19 pm
I am really 9000% done with this idea that all social justice blogs are run by fucking whackjobs. Most of them are actually pretty good and I think most members of this forum would like the statistics they bring up.
That would have more weight if you were willing to offer MRAs the same benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on May 07, 2013, 09:03:53 pm
I am really 9000% done with this idea that all social justice blogs are run by fucking whackjobs. Most of them are actually pretty good and I think most members of this forum would like the statistics they bring up.
That would have more weight if you were willing to offer MRAs the same benefit of the doubt.

Unlike the majority of feminist blogs, 99% of MRA blogs are full of sexism, privileged whininess, and persecution complexes. This isn't to say that men are hurt by sexism too (http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2007/10/18/phmt-argument/), but it's more of the side effects of misogyny that hurt them than it is any sexism intentionally aimed toward men in particular.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 07, 2013, 09:55:26 pm
I am really 9000% done with this idea that all social justice blogs are run by fucking whackjobs. Most of them are actually pretty good and I think most members of this forum would like the statistics they bring up.
This


There's no point when it's obvious people are firm in their convictions and beliefs. It just causes frustration. A lot of people have difficulties with the ideas of 'vocal minority' and 'every group has its fringe loonies'. Weird considering this is FSTDT.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on May 08, 2013, 01:29:48 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/923291_618002524894659_1117247225_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Distind on May 08, 2013, 08:46:05 am
Whether racism - or tribalism, originally - is innate or indoctrinated with humans, certainly "Kick 'em while their down"....is...too common a reflex :-[
I had a running theory on what amounts to neo-tribal behaviors associated with highschool foot ball teams back in highschool. I'm starting to think that we never really left it and just started calling tribes different things.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 08, 2013, 08:53:53 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/923291_618002524894659_1117247225_n.jpg)
Reminds me of how many of the Confederate soldiers called the American Civil War "a rich man's war but a poor man's fight".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 08, 2013, 10:55:55 am
(http://i.imgur.com/owsgLhK.png)
Black people can be heroic.  I put it here because I had a black neighbor who actually did something like this.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 08, 2013, 11:34:03 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/923291_618002524894659_1117247225_n.jpg)
Reminds me of how many of the Confederate soldiers called the American Civil War "a rich man's war but a poor man's fight".
Been true since the first tribal war in prehistory. But riches back then were flints, furs and feathers, not gold.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on May 08, 2013, 11:34:49 am
(http://i.imgur.com/owsgLhK.png)
Black people can be heroic.  I put it here because I had a black neighbor who actually did this.

A reference to those three women held captive as sex slaves for 10 years.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 08, 2013, 11:37:48 am
(http://i.imgur.com/owsgLhK.png)
Black people can be heroic.  I put it here partially because I had a black neighbor who actually did this.

A reference to those three women held captive as sex slaves for 10 years.
That's the other reason I put it up here.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 08, 2013, 12:41:31 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/umysyev.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on May 08, 2013, 01:48:39 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/owsgLhK.png)
Black people can be heroic.  I put it here partially because I had a black neighbor who actually did this.

A reference to those three women held captive as sex slaves for 10 years.
That's the other reason I put it up here.

I know. I was just saying that for those who weren't paying attention the past few days. No offense.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 08, 2013, 09:12:55 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/C5rpyY0.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 09, 2013, 02:21:42 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/y2rForY.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ottery on May 09, 2013, 03:05:36 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/owsgLhK.png)
Black people can be heroic.  I put it here because I had a black neighbor who actually did something like this.

Yeah, then the online idiots autotuned his interview because they thought he was funny.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ottery on May 09, 2013, 03:16:30 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/y2rForY.jpg)

I'm not sure why you posted that as an "awesome" protest sign, but I assure you it's not. Just because it snowed somewhere doesn't mean that global warming doesn't exist.

Ugh, I'm just sick of idiots saying, "Global warming isn't real!" in a smug tone when it snows a lot, then staying absolutely silent when the recent droughts we've had exceed, in most measures, the 1988-1989 North American drought, the most recent comparable drought, and is on track to exceed that drought as the costliest natural disaster in US history.

If your not against all that, my apologies.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 09, 2013, 03:20:58 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/y2rForY.jpg)

I'm not sure why you posted that as an "awesome" protest sign, but I assure you it's not. Just because it snowed somewhere doesn't mean that global warming doesn't exist.

Ugh, I'm just sick of idiots saying, "Global warming isn't real!" in a smug tone when it snows a lot, then staying absolutely silent when the recent droughts we've had exceed, in most measures, the 1988-1989 North American drought, the most recent comparable drought, and is on track to exceed that drought as the costliest natural disaster in US history.

If your not against all that, my apologies.
This is the Awesome Protest Signs section.  I didn't think about the context, I just put the picture there.  My bad if I caused any confusion.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Feral Dog on May 09, 2013, 03:27:14 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/y2rForY.jpg)

I'm not sure why you posted that as an "awesome" protest sign, but I assure you it's not. Just because it snowed somewhere doesn't mean that global warming doesn't exist.

Ugh, I'm just sick of idiots saying, "Global warming isn't real!" in a smug tone when it snows a lot, then staying absolutely silent when the recent droughts we've had exceed, in most measures, the 1988-1989 North American drought, the most recent comparable drought, and is on track to exceed that drought as the costliest natural disaster in US history.

If your not against all that, my apologies.
This is the Awesome Protest Signs section.  I didn't think about the context, I just put the picture there.  My bad if I caused any confusion.

I can't get theheatison.org to pop up, but the carbon coalition site is a stop-global-warming site. So the snowman isn't supposed to be ironic or anything.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on May 09, 2013, 03:30:05 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/y2rForY.jpg)

I'm not sure why you posted that as an "awesome" protest sign, but I assure you it's not. Just because it snowed somewhere doesn't mean that global warming doesn't exist.

Ugh, I'm just sick of idiots saying, "Global warming isn't real!" in a smug tone when it snows a lot, then staying absolutely silent when the recent droughts we've had exceed, in most measures, the 1988-1989 North American drought, the most recent comparable drought, and is on track to exceed that drought as the costliest natural disaster in US history.

If your not against all that, my apologies.
This is the Awesome Protest Signs section.  I didn't think about the context, I just put the picture there.  My bad if I caused any confusion.

I can't get theheatison.org to pop up, but the carbon coalition site is a stop-global-warming site. So the snowman isn't supposed to be ironic or anything.

I saw it as noting that there's so little snow that all they can make is the one small snowman.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 09, 2013, 03:37:58 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/SzlIv91.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Saturn500 on May 09, 2013, 03:41:36 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/y2rForY.jpg)

I'm not sure why you posted that as an "awesome" protest sign, but I assure you it's not. Just because it snowed somewhere doesn't mean that global warming doesn't exist.

Ugh, I'm just sick of idiots saying, "Global warming isn't real!" in a smug tone when it snows a lot, then staying absolutely silent when the recent droughts we've had exceed, in most measures, the 1988-1989 North American drought, the most recent comparable drought, and is on track to exceed that drought as the costliest natural disaster in US history.

If your not against all that, my apologies.

It clearly says "Make Global Warming a priority" and  "Save our seasons", thus indicating that we need to stop global warming in order to save Winter. How did you manage to misinterpret that so badly?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 09, 2013, 03:42:48 pm
http://www.heatisonline.org/ (http://www.heatisonline.org/)

The protest sign misspells the web address, or at least the new web address ain't on it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 09, 2013, 03:43:06 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/LueFf.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 09, 2013, 03:54:49 pm
Feels photoshopped.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 09, 2013, 03:58:24 pm
I feel like this was posted already... regardless:
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/b84536367bc6b76f4d564396288b5f4b/tumblr_mmhsup2im51qgt7z9o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ottery on May 09, 2013, 04:11:51 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/y2rForY.jpg)

I'm not sure why you posted that as an "awesome" protest sign, but I assure you it's not. Just because it snowed somewhere doesn't mean that global warming doesn't exist.

Ugh, I'm just sick of idiots saying, "Global warming isn't real!" in a smug tone when it snows a lot, then staying absolutely silent when the recent droughts we've had exceed, in most measures, the 1988-1989 North American drought, the most recent comparable drought, and is on track to exceed that drought as the costliest natural disaster in US history.

If your not against all that, my apologies.

It clearly says "Make Global Warming a priority" and  "Save our seasons", thus indicating that we need to stop global warming in order to save Winter. How did you manage to misinterpret that so badly?

I honestly thought that the placement was mocking those signs, due to the snowman. Like I said before, a lot of people have tried to call global warming false due to snow.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ottery on May 09, 2013, 04:16:16 pm
I feel like this was posted already... regardless:
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/b84536367bc6b76f4d564396288b5f4b/tumblr_mmhsup2im51qgt7z9o1_500.jpg)

That reminds me of something I overheard (or read somewhere) that says, "I don't know why we don't have a woman president. People keep saying that they would ruin the country or something when on their periods, but they forget that men think about sex every six minutes. I'd rather have someone who gets a little cranky once a month, not someone who is distracted every six minutes by his thoughts."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 09, 2013, 04:39:01 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/AHb8A8R.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on May 09, 2013, 10:06:47 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/AHb8A8R.jpg)

LOVE THIS!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 10, 2013, 12:33:30 am
HAWT! And yes gonna give some ol' fundies a heart attack (or damp panties).
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Feral Dog on May 10, 2013, 12:41:12 am
Of course, knowing the history behind the photo the picture is based on gives it almost completely the opposite meaning.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 10, 2013, 09:29:57 am
To me that connotation is actually spot on, in a good way. The Victory in Europe Day celebratory kiss photo happened 68 years ago, but it is so iconic a symbol of success after great struggle that I like it's use in this cartoon. Sure, the posture and act were sexist by today's standard, but in the day, that was the Hollywood Movie Romance kiss, and the actual man and woman were strangers to each other just goofing it up out of excitement and happiness. Here's a re-enactment, with the two original kissers reunited, sharing a more subdued display of affection.

(http://i.imgur.com/xE3dczZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 10, 2013, 12:12:16 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/LrOmL9c.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 10, 2013, 12:24:14 pm
To me that connotation is actually spot on, in a good way. The Victory in Europe Day celebratory kiss photo happened 68 years ago, but it is so iconic a symbol of success after great struggle that I like it's use in this cartoon. Sure, the posture and act were sexist by today's standard, but in the day, that was the Hollywood Movie Romance kiss, and the actual man and woman were strangers to each other just goofing it up out of excitement and happiness. Here's a re-enactment, with the two original kissers reunited, sharing a more subdued display of affection.

(http://i.imgur.com/xE3dczZ.jpg)

Funny, for some reason I had heard a story that she was being sexually harassed and didn't want to be kissed.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 10, 2013, 12:55:52 pm
To me that connotation is actually spot on, in a good way. The Victory in Europe Day celebratory kiss photo happened 68 years ago, but it is so iconic a symbol of success after great struggle that I like it's use in this cartoon. Sure, the posture and act were sexist by today's standard, but in the day, that was the Hollywood Movie Romance kiss, and the actual man and woman were strangers to each other just goofing it up out of excitement and happiness. Here's a re-enactment, with the two original kissers reunited, sharing a more subdued display of affection.

(http://i.imgur.com/xE3dczZ.jpg)

Funny, for some reason I had heard a story that she was being sexually harassed and didn't want to be kissed.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2187071/Times-Square-Sailor-nurse-kissing-iconic-WWII-photograph-reunited.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2187071/Times-Square-Sailor-nurse-kissing-iconic-WWII-photograph-reunited.html)

George Mendonsa and Greta Zimmer Friedman claim to be the kisser and kissee in question, although the photographer never asked the names of the man and woman in his photograph. George says he was very drunk and has no memory of it. Greta says she was caught totally by surprise, and was held by "a very strong man" so you definitely have your talking point about harassment. I saw her in an interview broadcast some years ago about the incident, and in that TV program, IIRC, she said she was shocked but not especially outraged or frightened by the grab and kiss, describing it as a part of the crowd uproar and excitement that day (Victory in Japan Day, to correct my last post).
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 10, 2013, 01:24:40 pm
Ahh, yeah. Not gonna say what it is or isn't but it's definitely iconic.

And yeah, V-J Day. V-E day was earlier.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 10, 2013, 02:01:03 pm
Since this is a really famous bit of history, and there are important, serious questions raised by the background story (such as it inadequately is), I kept researching, and came across the transcript of a Library of Congress history project interview with Greta Friedman;

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/diglib/vhp/story/loc.natlib.afc2001001.42863/transcript?ID=sr0001 (http://lcweb2.loc.gov/diglib/vhp/story/loc.natlib.afc2001001.42863/transcript?ID=sr0001)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 10, 2013, 08:40:17 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/k2f5g8j.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 11, 2013, 01:10:07 pm
Exactly the point I want to make.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on May 11, 2013, 03:43:23 pm
I'm not sure what this was for, but it made me laugh:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mydcTnC70ag/UPrTuwclEMI/AAAAAAAACM8/kAn2CWw6ekY/s1600/funny-protest-signs-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 11, 2013, 04:36:58 pm
I'm not sure what this was for, but it made me laugh:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mydcTnC70ag/UPrTuwclEMI/AAAAAAAACM8/kAn2CWw6ekY/s1600/funny-protest-signs-3.jpg)
;D Made me chuckle.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 11, 2013, 09:25:32 pm
"God Hates Kittens?!"  HERESY!  BURN THE WITCH!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: chad sexington on May 11, 2013, 09:43:46 pm
Was that the counter-protest from the time Westboro decided to protest ComiCon?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on May 11, 2013, 11:28:24 pm
Was that the counter-protest from the time Westboro decided to protest ComiCon?

No, that was MUCH larger.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: chad sexington on May 12, 2013, 12:23:25 am
I meant part of it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 12, 2013, 09:39:51 am
(http://i.imgur.com/qP2OJrR.jpg)
Kinda reminds me of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODC7SOrRihE
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 13, 2013, 08:27:41 am
(http://i.imgur.com/1gTMXIe.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 13, 2013, 08:00:07 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/269b6e3781cefae0b7c69e04d90d5bf0/tumblr_mmrcgv7mV71r1vqpco1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 13, 2013, 08:24:47 pm
Mandatory free contraceptives issued to both sexes when they get their driver learner's permit. 100% Tax write-off to the companies that provide them. It's great publicity. It'll never happen. But I can dream.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 13, 2013, 09:00:13 pm
Yeah, I'm personally pro-life (with exceptions), but I also feel that abortion is a necessary evil, at least until we invent a foolproof method of birth control.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on May 13, 2013, 10:33:06 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/487596_464985326922509_784564964_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 13, 2013, 10:46:01 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/1gTMXIe.jpg)

Nonono, that's not the proper reaction!  This is the proper fuckin reaction!

(http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu273/RH-00/hanako-gtfo-my-planet.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 15, 2013, 08:44:05 am
(http://i.imgur.com/Y7Mj6cV.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 15, 2013, 12:57:19 pm
That is awesome!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 15, 2013, 12:57:40 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/PFu2k4o.jpg)
My wife showed this to me.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ThunderWulf on May 15, 2013, 11:11:30 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/PFu2k4o.jpg)
My wife showed this to me.

All of my yes.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 16, 2013, 02:08:20 am
(http://i.imgur.com/PFu2k4o.jpg)
My wife showed this to me.

YES.  If she can walk, you've done it wrong, brotha.  Also, real men cuddle after sex, because fuck yeah.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 16, 2013, 04:57:59 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/487596_464985326922509_784564964_n.jpg)
How ironic.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 16, 2013, 05:33:45 pm
I like how he says that like suddenly we won't use the terms mom and dad.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DiscoBerry on May 16, 2013, 11:54:11 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/ybiSu4X.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on May 17, 2013, 12:59:20 am
(http://i.imgur.com/ybiSu4X.jpg)

YES!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on May 17, 2013, 01:10:10 am
Thank you random black guy...now what size neck do you wear?

Ironbite-*dons a white hood*  I'm a Ghost.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 17, 2013, 08:59:48 am
Never judge a book by its cover.

(http://i.imgur.com/PScN8hU.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 17, 2013, 09:30:08 am
(http://ct.politicomments.com/ol/pc/sw/i60/2/12/1/pc_b604df54fa5b532eb9e0d2c4c8ca9feb.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on May 17, 2013, 11:14:14 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/374356_579356818753689_1412553982_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 17, 2013, 11:25:44 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/374356_579356818753689_1412553982_n.jpg)
These people need to understand one thing: homosexual marriage is still marriage.  And fundies are supposed to be pro-marriage.  If they really wanted to protect marriage, they'd go after divorce.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 17, 2013, 12:09:36 pm
(http://cdn5.mixrmedia.com/wp-uploads/funsauce/blog/2012/08/one-of-the-best-protesting-signs-in-the-world.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 17, 2013, 01:52:17 pm
(http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2010/12/13/13/enhanced-buzz-29181-1292266225-17.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 17, 2013, 02:28:01 pm
(http://alwaysquestionauthority.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/dear-republicans.jpg?w=584)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on May 17, 2013, 03:16:25 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/374356_579356818753689_1412553982_n.jpg)

Thus proving how evil the gays truly are.  I mean this guy is admitting to pedophilia and bestiality with that sign.

Ironbite-Vote Turner.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on May 17, 2013, 07:59:11 pm
(http://alwaysquestionauthority.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/dear-republicans.jpg?w=584)

SHA-ZING!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kit Walker on May 17, 2013, 11:17:17 pm
(http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2010/12/13/13/enhanced-buzz-29181-1292266225-17.jpg)

That kid clearly didn't make that sign, most likely doesn't understand the sign, and has no idea what they're protesting. Seriously, if people are going to a protest, get a babysitter.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 18, 2013, 09:38:25 am
(http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2010/12/13/13/enhanced-buzz-29181-1292266225-17.jpg)

That kid clearly didn't make that sign, most likely doesn't understand the sign, and has no idea what they're protesting. Seriously, if people are going to a protest, get a babysitter.

I think this is the type of tea party being referenced in the sign she's holding:
(http://i.imgur.com/pu9xZX1.jpg)
And I agree on leaving the little ones at home. Angry protesters can get violent, random criminals can start shooting (New Orleans last week) and really dense crowds of people anywhere are dangerous because of the chance of crowd panic and stampeding. I've been to two rallies where panic surges occurred, and have witnessed bystanders being trampled.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kit Walker on May 18, 2013, 11:09:21 am
I think this is the type of tea party being referenced in the sign she's holding:
*Child's Tea Party*
Yes, that's what is meant by "[her] Tea Party" but the "Crazy People" being mention in proximity to "tea party" leads me to believe that the sign is a dig at right wing Tea Party Protesters. Since I doubt this young lady has much of an opinion on healthcare reform, tax policy, or President Obama, I think it's a little gross that her parents are using her as a mouthpiece for their viewpoint.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 18, 2013, 12:28:30 pm
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9diadLn0FYI/TBPjZA4LDcI/AAAAAAAAAcY/14MHmjHNt6o/s1600/texas_SB1070_protest09.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 18, 2013, 02:31:40 pm
...That last one.

Is.

Fucking.

BRILLIANT!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DPKf7y1F-Q
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 18, 2013, 03:34:21 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/ItKCaL8.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 18, 2013, 09:47:06 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/ItKCaL8.jpg)
Just goes to show how ludicrous Obama's harsher critics can be.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 18, 2013, 09:57:30 pm
Yeah, these morons are just whining for the sake of whining
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 18, 2013, 09:57:53 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/ea2ebe84d8559ded5dca63a5c876bec1/tumblr_mmy0uro58n1qj171uo1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 18, 2013, 10:01:26 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/ea2ebe84d8559ded5dca63a5c876bec1/tumblr_mmy0uro58n1qj171uo1_1280.png)
That was already posted in Best Political Cartoons, but I think it fits equally well here.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 18, 2013, 10:13:55 pm
*snip*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DPKf7y1F-Q

They ought to make more of those commercials.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 18, 2013, 11:08:30 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/11919_10151426568628736_536477597_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on May 19, 2013, 10:17:11 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/943501_134879346706756_1046999326_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 19, 2013, 12:56:51 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/943501_134879346706756_1046999326_n.jpg)

Thank you, sign holding man. Stay Human, indeed, and keep opening peoples' minds to truth.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 19, 2013, 01:00:56 pm
Reminds me of these people:
(http://i.imgur.com/NIRHoZA.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 19, 2013, 01:05:22 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/dlNstb0.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 19, 2013, 01:08:09 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/dlNstb0.jpg)
Great sign, newbie.  Ever given http://www.racebending.com/v4/ (http://www.racebending.com/v4/) a visit?  It's a real eye-opener.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 19, 2013, 01:20:57 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/dlNstb0.jpg)
Great sign, newbie.  Ever given http://www.racebending.com/v4/ (http://www.racebending.com/v4/) a visit?  It's a real eye-opener.
No I haven't.  But I think I'll check it out soon.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 19, 2013, 01:22:51 pm
To think people call Hollywood "progressive"...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 19, 2013, 01:34:07 pm
(http://i806.photobucket.com/albums/yy345/kingoftheheavies/d17508fb.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 19, 2013, 01:40:33 pm
Tebow's just an attention whore.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on May 19, 2013, 01:48:46 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/dlNstb0.jpg)
Great sign, newbie.  Ever given http://www.racebending.com/v4/ (http://www.racebending.com/v4/) a visit?  It's a real eye-opener.

I'd be fine with Morgan Freeman as Gandalf  ;D.

To be fair, they might have trouble finding Asians to play the character, since they are a minority. It wouldn't matter what race the characters were, the movie would have sucked anyways.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on May 19, 2013, 02:57:34 pm
Asians are actually a pretty quickly-growing minority group in the US, and of course there are plenty who are aspiring actors. Oh, and there are also Asian actors in other countries too. You don't have to look exclusively at American actors for an American movie. There's really just no justification for putting a white actor in yellowface instead of opening up opportunities for Asian actors to enter the industry.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 19, 2013, 04:05:24 pm
Really seeing how they made Aang white it was obvious that it was gonna be a trainwreck
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 19, 2013, 04:08:20 pm
Really seeing how they made Aang white it was obvious that it was gonna be a trainwreck
Not only that, but they also mispronounced his name as "ung".  Makes him sound like a caveman.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 19, 2013, 04:18:38 pm
Really seeing how they made Aang white it was obvious that it was gonna be a trainwreck
Not only that, but they also mispronounced his name as "ung".  Makes him sound like a caveman.
They also mispronounced Sokka's name as "Soak-a", which sounds like a foreigner trying to pronounce "soccer".  They even misprnounced Iroh as "ee-row", which sounds like some kind of medical problem.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 19, 2013, 04:26:56 pm
I wonder how Shyamalan felt about the casting.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 19, 2013, 04:36:38 pm
Seeing how awful the movie was probably pretty happy.   He always struck me as a delusional guy who thinks himself as higher then he was.  Seeing how the movie tanked. 
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 19, 2013, 04:39:54 pm
I read somewhere that he had the characters' names mispronounced because his own name was mispronounced when he was a kid.  Is that true?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 19, 2013, 04:41:56 pm
I read somewhere that he had the characters' names mispronounced because his own name was mispronounced when he was a kid.  Is that true?
I don't know... he said he was a fan of the TV show.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 19, 2013, 04:49:25 pm
I read somewhere that he had the characters' names mispronounced because his own name was mispronounced when he was a kid.  Is that true?
I don't know... he said he was a fan of the TV show.
You wouldn't know it from the movie.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 19, 2013, 04:51:35 pm
Let's stop derailing this, shall we?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 19, 2013, 04:54:04 pm
Let's stop derailing this, shall we?
Yeah, let's.

By the way, here's another great sign.

(http://americanhistory.si.edu/brown/history/6-legacy/images/equality-law-life-lg.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 19, 2013, 04:55:35 pm
(http://jjprzy.envy.nu/images/globalwarming/200903/20090302-DCclimate-protest.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 19, 2013, 05:06:03 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3qd68RyDP1r81imfo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: chad sexington on May 19, 2013, 10:15:58 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3qd68RyDP1r81imfo1_500.jpg)

(http://www.ronanlyons.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/helen-lovejoy.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on May 20, 2013, 01:01:33 am
Let's stop derailing this, shall we?

I'm sorry but...who the fuck are you?

Back to the Avatar talk; Shammallamadingdong wasn't the fan, his kids were.  After they saw that, I wonder if they're talking to him now.

Ironbite-or do they just look at him with hurt and hate in their eyes?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Veras on May 20, 2013, 10:57:20 am
(http://jjprzy.envy.nu/images/globalwarming/200903/20090302-DCclimate-protest.jpg)

Those protesters are wearing coats!  If global warming was real, why would they do that?  It's a hoax!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 20, 2013, 12:50:07 pm
George Takei's responses to some homophobic protest signs:

(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/5/16/10/enhanced-buzz-1503-1368714595-16.jpg)

(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr06/2013/5/16/10/enhanced-buzz-17412-1368715109-1.jpg)

(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/5/16/10/enhanced-buzz-26853-1368714609-10.jpg)

(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr06/2013/5/16/10/enhanced-buzz-18634-1368714098-0.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 20, 2013, 02:19:03 pm
George is the coolest "grandpa" ever, to an entire generation (I'll even adopt him as a step dad!).
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 20, 2013, 02:54:18 pm
His husband's a sweetheart, too.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 20, 2013, 07:25:06 pm
Takei's a great guy.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 20, 2013, 07:27:42 pm
Takei's a great guy.
Yes, he is.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 20, 2013, 08:07:30 pm
(http://www.advocacymonitor.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Justice-Delayed-Is-Justice-Denied-2012-Protest-Sign.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 20, 2013, 08:10:35 pm
(http://www.advocacymonitor.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Justice-Delayed-Is-Justice-Denied-2012-Protest-Sign.jpg)
Hear, hear!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 20, 2013, 08:17:29 pm
(http://www.advocacymonitor.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Justice-Delayed-Is-Justice-Denied-2012-Protest-Sign.jpg)
Hear, hear!
Thank you, thank you.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 20, 2013, 08:49:56 pm
(http://sundial.csun.edu/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/abortion3-400x276.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 21, 2013, 12:45:33 am
George Takei, can I take you as my replacement grandpa?  I've needed a new one sorely for many, many years now.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on May 21, 2013, 08:17:44 am
Let's stop derailing this, shall we?

I'm sorry but...who the fuck are you?

Back to the Avatar talk; Shammallamadingdong wasn't the fan, his kids were.  After they saw that, I wonder if they're talking to him now.

Ironbite-or do they just look at him with hurt and hate in their eyes?


I chuckled at the "Shammallamadingdong". I think I'll call him that from now on.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 21, 2013, 10:19:49 am
Let's stop derailing this, shall we?

I'm sorry but...who the fuck are you?

Back to the Avatar talk; Shammallamadingdong wasn't the fan, his kids were.  After they saw that, I wonder if they're talking to him now.

Ironbite-or do they just look at him with hurt and hate in their eyes?


I chuckled at the "Shammallamadingdong". I think I'll call him that from now on.
It'd be great revenge for mispronouncing the characters' names.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 22, 2013, 08:26:18 am
(http://i806.photobucket.com/albums/yy345/kingoftheheavies/embasstattacks1_zpsa638493c.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 22, 2013, 08:30:04 am
(Can't display for some reason)
http://static.quickmeme.com/media/social/qm.gif
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on May 22, 2013, 09:42:52 am
(Can't display for some reason)
http://static.quickmeme.com/media/social/qm.gif

Still not showing. All I see is one tiny pixel in the middle of a black screen. Try again.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 22, 2013, 11:04:37 am
(Can't display for some reason)
http://static.quickmeme.com/media/social/qm.gif

Still not showing. All I see is one tiny pixel in the middle of a black screen. Try again.
Fixed.

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3uh3ud/
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on May 22, 2013, 12:35:26 pm
(Can't display for some reason)
http://static.quickmeme.com/media/social/qm.gif

Still not showing. All I see is one tiny pixel in the middle of a black screen. Try again.
Fixed.

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3uh3ud/

Thanks!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 22, 2013, 01:28:53 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/U1rd7LY.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 22, 2013, 01:40:19 pm
For everybody sick of those who rail against the "vanity" of people who get plastic surgery:

(http://i.imgur.com/zYWce2U.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 22, 2013, 01:42:01 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/IcUbKHx.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 22, 2013, 01:47:21 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/IcUbKHx.jpg)
Yeah!  I hate being put on a pedestal!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 22, 2013, 01:52:03 pm
I also hate being put on a pedestal as being "tough", "rational", and "assertive".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 22, 2013, 01:55:48 pm
(http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/4755/emptycage2.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 22, 2013, 01:56:39 pm
(http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/4755/emptycage2.jpg)
Trolling creationists... I love it!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 22, 2013, 01:57:44 pm
(http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/4755/emptycage2.jpg)
Trolling creationists... I love it!
So do I.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 22, 2013, 01:59:28 pm
(http://www.coloradoindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/dsc010961.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Bezron on May 22, 2013, 05:53:27 pm
Dynamic

Can you shrink those before posting?  I have a pretty good resolution on this monitor, but both of the last ones you posted are completely unreadable due to size.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RinellaWasHere on May 22, 2013, 05:59:44 pm
Dynamic

Can you shrink those before posting?  I have a pretty good resolution on this monitor, but both of the last ones you posted are completely unreadable due to size.

Seriously. I can't even try reading them on my iPad.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 22, 2013, 06:00:39 pm
Sorry.  I'll use shrunken versions from now on.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on May 22, 2013, 06:02:59 pm
One thing I find works is the following:

If you're using Firefox, right-click the image and choose "View Image", clicking the option with the scroll wheel. This will give you the image in a new tab, shrunken to fit.

If you're using Chrome, right-click the image and choose "Open image in new tab", which will do the same thing.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on May 22, 2013, 06:05:44 pm
(http://i806.photobucket.com/albums/yy345/kingoftheheavies/embasstattacks1_zpsa638493c.png)

As one Republican said, Benghazi is twice as bad as Watergate plus Iran-Contra

Ben~(W+IC)*2

Therefore, Bush's government was about

Bush~(W+IC)*2*12.

He may have even been mistaken about the motivation of the attackers for some period after them, working on advice from the CIA! You lie! Impeach!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on May 22, 2013, 09:10:49 pm
I shrunk Dynamic Dragon's picture:

(http://i43.tinypic.com/m5vde.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 22, 2013, 09:23:53 pm
One thing I find works is the following:

If you're using Firefox, right-click the image and choose "View Image", clicking the option with the scroll wheel. This will give you the image in a new tab, shrunken to fit.

If you're using Chrome, right-click the image and choose "Open image in new tab", which will do the same thing.


Yeah I've had to use the Chrome version for a lot of pics so I can tell what the hell is being posted.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 23, 2013, 02:16:32 pm
(http://ct.fra.bz/i58/2/10/30/f_9a4f354e36.jpg)
Jon Stewart, brilliant as always.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DiscoBerry on May 23, 2013, 03:10:39 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/Gbwicg5.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on May 23, 2013, 03:23:21 pm
Accusing people of being Nazis and telling them to kill themselves counts as "awesome" now?  Really?  You have a strange definition of "awesome."

What, are you going to give it some context and tell me it was at an actual neo-nazi rally?  Still a little disturbing...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 23, 2013, 04:01:47 pm
Accusing people of being Nazis and telling them to kill themselves counts as "awesome" now?  Really?  You have a strange definition of "awesome."

What, are you going to give it some context and tell me it was at an actual neo-nazi rally?  Still a little disturbing...
I won't be shedding any tears for Neo-Nazis, anymore than I would if a tornado hit the WBC.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on May 23, 2013, 04:05:49 pm
Accusing people of being Nazis and telling them to kill themselves counts as "awesome" now?  Really?  You have a strange definition of "awesome."

What, are you going to give it some context and tell me it was at an actual neo-nazi rally?  Still a little disturbing...
I won't be shedding any tears for Neo-Nazis, anymore than I would if a tornado hit the WBC.

Off topic, but has anyone heard if WBC is going to be protesting the funerals of victims of the recent tornado?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 23, 2013, 04:08:59 pm
Accusing people of being Nazis and telling them to kill themselves counts as "awesome" now?  Really?  You have a strange definition of "awesome."

What, are you going to give it some context and tell me it was at an actual neo-nazi rally?  Still a little disturbing...
I won't be shedding any tears for Neo-Nazis, anymore than I would if a tornado hit the WBC.

Off topic, but has anyone heard if WBC is going to be protesting the funerals of victims of the recent tornado?
Yes, I have.  I'm hoping that Okies come out in droves to counter-protest.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 23, 2013, 04:12:43 pm
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/486/371/578.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 23, 2013, 04:14:49 pm
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/486/371/578.jpg)
That map is out of date.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 23, 2013, 04:22:58 pm
This recent map is broader in scope than same sex marriage....but I say it's very likely that all of these

states will have marriage equality in five years  ;D


(http://i.imgur.com/Cy2EFaQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on May 23, 2013, 07:34:51 pm
Accusing people of being Nazis and telling them to kill themselves counts as "awesome" now?  Really?  You have a strange definition of "awesome."

What, are you going to give it some context and tell me it was at an actual neo-nazi rally?  Still a little disturbing...
I won't be shedding any tears for Neo-Nazis, anymore than I would if a tornado hit the WBC.

Off topic, but has anyone heard if WBC is going to be protesting the funerals of victims of the recent tornado?
Yes, I have.  I'm hoping that Okies come out in droves to counter-protest.

Happen to know the when and where? Me and my friends would love to take a short trip down the road to give WBC a few words. I also have a few tarps we can put on poles and use to block WBC from the mourners.  I might also have my friend bring a stereo so we can blast awesome music that WBC would hate.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 23, 2013, 07:40:53 pm
Accusing people of being Nazis and telling them to kill themselves counts as "awesome" now?  Really?  You have a strange definition of "awesome."

What, are you going to give it some context and tell me it was at an actual neo-nazi rally?  Still a little disturbing...
I won't be shedding any tears for Neo-Nazis, anymore than I would if a tornado hit the WBC.

Off topic, but has anyone heard if WBC is going to be protesting the funerals of victims of the recent tornado?
Yes, I have.  I'm hoping that Okies come out in droves to counter-protest.

Happen to know the when and where? Me and my friends would love to take a short trip down the road to give WBC a few words. I also have a few tarps we can put on poles and use to block WBC from the mourners.  I might also have my friend bring a stereo so we can blast awesome music that WBC would hate.
I don't, sadly.  But I'm sure you can find it on Google.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on May 23, 2013, 08:49:47 pm
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/486/371/578.jpg)
That map is out of date.

What if you're in a same-sex relationship with your first cousin?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Feral Dog on May 23, 2013, 09:02:16 pm
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/486/371/578.jpg)
That map is out of date.

What if you're in a same-sex relationship with your first cousin?

Then you can move to: New York, Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts or Connecticut.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 23, 2013, 09:05:44 pm
So much for "values".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 23, 2013, 09:15:03 pm
Anyway:
(http://i.imgur.com/zWNRVBB.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 23, 2013, 09:16:25 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/4jL6Rrv.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 23, 2013, 09:18:45 pm
Definitely going to use this when my kids become teenagers.

(http://i.imgur.com/TFIveDb.jpg)

Edit: Could somebody tell me how to shrink this?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 23, 2013, 09:23:12 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/uTcql3e.jpg)
Hope this goes viral.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 23, 2013, 09:23:57 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/uTcql3e.jpg)
Hope this goes viral.
I hope so, too.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 23, 2013, 09:32:26 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/fnHmjdp.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 23, 2013, 09:32:59 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/fnHmjdp.jpg)
I've been saying that for years.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 23, 2013, 09:34:39 pm
I know what you mean.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 23, 2013, 09:35:04 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/Er01Dv4.jpg)
This reminds me of a question.  Who the hell values "obedience" in a wife? Are you interested in a life partner or buying a slave?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Alehksunos on May 23, 2013, 09:42:38 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/4jL6Rrv.jpg)

Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 23, 2013, 09:46:15 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/4jL6Rrv.jpg)

Thank you, thank you, thank you.
There's quality anywhere.  You just have to find it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on May 24, 2013, 12:25:24 am
Definitely going to use this when my kids become teenagers.

(http://i.imgur.com/TFIveDb.jpg)

Edit: Could somebody tell me how to shrink this?

I shrunk it for ya!
(http://i44.tinypic.com/f4qzi9.jpg)
Do you have an art program? I have PaintNET. It's free. It open up my program and select a pic from the files, then I open up the menu with the word "Image", then I press "Resize". Then I reduce the size.

I'm certain programs like Photoshop & others have something similar. That's all I can say.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 24, 2013, 01:13:59 am
Shame it doesnt work that way especially if the kid is disabled (speaking from experience)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on May 24, 2013, 02:06:13 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/92a3f01e1202d27e0de0c6df060780d2/tumblr_mn9el7eYYi1ss9srro1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 24, 2013, 10:55:08 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/92a3f01e1202d27e0de0c6df060780d2/tumblr_mn9el7eYYi1ss9srro1_1280.jpg)
Beware the redditors.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 24, 2013, 11:18:44 am
(It won't let me display the image)

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/357s3i/

Edit: fixed the link
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 24, 2013, 01:17:10 pm
(http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/PSO1228.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 24, 2013, 01:19:09 pm
(http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/PSO1228.jpg)
Amen to that!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 24, 2013, 02:01:33 pm
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/files/2013/01/proimmigration10000041H20432114_image_606w.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 24, 2013, 02:02:02 pm
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/files/2013/01/proimmigration10000041H20432114_image_606w.jpg)
I agree completely
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 24, 2013, 02:03:23 pm
(http://socialistorganizer.org/wp-content/uploads/Undocumented-Farm-Workers-Protest-Signs.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 24, 2013, 02:06:48 pm
(http://socialistorganizer.org/wp-content/uploads/Undocumented-Farm-Workers-Protest-Signs.jpg)
I believe Tyler Durden said it best:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEdgzndKuog
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 24, 2013, 02:08:45 pm
*snip*
I believe Tyler Durden said it best:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEdgzndKuog
That should be the mantra of the Occupy movement.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 24, 2013, 02:10:09 pm
*snip*
I believe Tyler Durden said it best:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEdgzndKuog
That should be the mantra of the Occupy movement.
It really should.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on May 24, 2013, 03:42:56 pm
(http://socialistorganizer.org/wp-content/uploads/Undocumented-Farm-Workers-Protest-Signs.jpg)

(http://www.gagtics.com/wp-content/uploads/Thank-You-Jesus.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 24, 2013, 05:41:25 pm
(It won't let me display the image)

http://static.quickmeme.com/media/social/qm.gif

There isn't even an image to be had...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 24, 2013, 05:51:56 pm
(It won't let me display the image)

http://static.quickmeme.com/media/social/qm.gif

There isn't even an image to be had...
Fixed the link.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Reality Warper on May 24, 2013, 05:52:56 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/COXfjrH.jpg)

That's why anti-prostitution laws make no sense.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 24, 2013, 05:53:33 pm
Remember when Family Guy was actually funny?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 24, 2013, 06:29:28 pm
Remember when Family Guy was actually funny?

Nope.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 24, 2013, 08:57:08 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/qoWfb24.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 24, 2013, 09:02:17 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/qoWfb24.png)

The last sentence of that does have a point.  I'd defend myself against anyone trying to hurt me, someone I love, or any other innocent person while I'm around.  Race, religion, and gender don't matter, if you threaten them, I'll defend them.  With force, if necessary.

That said, hurting people simply out of anger is also wrong, regardless of gender or anything else.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 24, 2013, 09:39:21 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/qoWfb24.png)

The last sentence of that does have a point.  I'd defend myself against anyone trying to hurt me, someone I love, or any other innocent person while I'm around.  Race, religion, and gender don't matter, if you threaten them, I'll defend them.  With force, if necessary.

That said, hurting people simply out of anger is also wrong, regardless of gender or anything else.
That's why the poster said "appropriate reason".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on May 24, 2013, 09:59:33 pm
Remember when Family Guy was actually funny?

Nope.

Eh, even if 98% of the episode was just plain bland or disgusting, they manage to have 1 or 2 funny scenes.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 24, 2013, 10:01:40 pm
I was being funny, actually.

It's just that Family Guy was never really that funny to me.  I did watch it for awhile and then I just lost all interest.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 24, 2013, 10:03:55 pm
Family Guy has gone downhill.

I think part of the problem is that, nowadays, Family Guy is just being offensive for its own sake.  That might have worked in the '80's, but it's not funny anymore.

Another problem is that several of the characters have changed beyond recognition.  Meg's a punching bag, Stewie's a walking gay joke, and Brian's turned into Seth McFarlane's mouthpiece.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 25, 2013, 05:29:22 am
(http://i.imgur.com/qoWfb24.png)

The last sentence of that does have a point.  I'd defend myself against anyone trying to hurt me, someone I love, or any other innocent person while I'm around.  Race, religion, and gender don't matter, if you threaten them, I'll defend them.  With force, if necessary.

That said, hurting people simply out of anger is also wrong, regardless of gender or anything else.
That's why the poster said "appropriate reason".

Ohhhhh...herp, missed that bit.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on May 25, 2013, 08:21:43 am
(http://i.imgur.com/qoWfb24.png)

This is why context matters. He tells a seemingly reasonable tale... in opposition to a photo clearly talking about domestic violence (by the image) Hmm.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 27, 2013, 03:00:55 am
(http://media.tumblr.com/a20887ea7614615e8595378318e4fd67/tumblr_inline_mng3a1K6uF1qil14n.jpg)

huhuhuhuhuhu.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Meshakhad on May 27, 2013, 03:48:58 pm
Remember when Family Guy was actually funny?

Nope.

Eh, even if 98% of the episode was just plain bland or disgusting, they manage to have 1 or 2 funny scenes.

OK, I think we have a solution. Cancel family guy, and fold their writing staff into that of Robot Chicken.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 27, 2013, 05:57:50 pm
Remember when Family Guy was actually funny?

Nope.

Eh, even if 98% of the episode was just plain bland or disgusting, they manage to have 1 or 2 funny scenes.

OK, I think we have a solution. Cancel family guy, and fold their writing staff into that of Robot Chicken.

Can we do the same thing with American Dad?

I tried to watch some episodes of that since everyone says it's better than Family Guy and found it to be even worse somehow.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: booley on May 27, 2013, 10:30:14 pm
Remember when Family Guy was actually funny?

Nope.

Eh, even if 98% of the episode was just plain bland or disgusting, they manage to have 1 or 2 funny scenes.

OK, I think we have a solution. Cancel family guy, and fold their writing staff into that of Robot Chicken.

Can we do the same thing with American Dad?

I tried to watch some episodes of that since everyone says it's better than Family Guy and found it to be even worse somehow.

Ok let me just pipe into the hate fest to mention I like the show.

I mean I get that many don't care for the shows.  I have a low opinion of Honey Boo boo and pretty much all the reality shows except for Face Off.

But since I just dont' watch those shows, my rage probably has not been nurtured as abundently as other's have been.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 28, 2013, 10:39:48 am
Remember when Family Guy was actually funny?

Nope.

Eh, even if 98% of the episode was just plain bland or disgusting, they manage to have 1 or 2 funny scenes.

OK, I think we have a solution. Cancel family guy, and fold their writing staff into that of Robot Chicken.

Can we do the same thing with American Dad?

I tried to watch some episodes of that since everyone says it's better than Family Guy and found it to be even worse somehow.

You have to go into all shows expecting to be offended and then I think it can definitely be enjoyable.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 28, 2013, 01:11:53 pm
Offended?

How about "It was actively boring.  Like it was going out of its way to be boring."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 28, 2013, 01:48:03 pm
I was talking about in general when it comes to the shows. *shrugs*

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3krpaly5O1qgy1iqo1_500.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lucffauKKP1qgul3do1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Meshakhad on June 01, 2013, 02:12:13 pm
I have some problems with the whole "violence never solves anything" line. Violence is often a quick and effective solution, but can also create new problems. Violence should be a last resort, but it should be there. That is why I favor having a strong military, and why I will personally teach my kids how to fight.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 01, 2013, 08:17:26 pm
True. I think it would have been better if it read 'turns to violence as a first resort' or something similar.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on June 02, 2013, 09:03:05 am
True. I think it would have been better if it read 'turns to violence as a first resort' or something similar.

i am so diametrically opposed to this idea i cannot help but take it as a snarky comment. there's just too much crud going on in this world to actually ask for moar violence   :'(
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on June 02, 2013, 09:09:24 am
True. I think it would have been better if it read 'turns to violence as a first resort' or something similar.

i am so diametrically opposed to this idea i cannot help but take it as a snarky comment. there's just too much crud going on in this world to actually ask for moar violence   :'(

He means that the protest sign would be better if it pointed out that THE GOVERMENT turns to violence as a first resort, not that Booker would prefer to use violence as the first resort.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on June 02, 2013, 09:12:59 am
True. I think it would have been better if it read 'turns to violence as a first resort' or something similar.

i am so diametrically opposed to this idea i cannot help but take it as a snarky comment. there's just too much crud going on in this world to actually ask for moar violence   :'(

He means that the protest sign would be better if it pointed out that THE GOVERMENT turns to violence as a first resort, not that Booker would prefer to use violence as the first resort.

i've seen from posts that booker will try to avoid violence, so my bad if it was perceived like that. but put that on a protest sign, and well, poe's law comes into full effect...

[runs and hides]
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Emperor Maximilian on June 02, 2013, 04:44:15 pm
Violence is not desirable, but it should always be on the table as an option. Sometimes, it's the best (or indeed, only) response.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 02, 2013, 05:05:39 pm
True. I think it would have been better if it read 'turns to violence as a first resort' or something similar.

i am so diametrically opposed to this idea i cannot help but take it as a snarky comment. there's just too much crud going on in this world to actually ask for moar violence   :'(

He means that the protest sign would be better if it pointed out that THE GOVERMENT turns to violence as a first resort, not that Booker would prefer to use violence as the first resort.

This. Sorry. I need to word things better.

@Guizonde- you're fine. I'm also one of those people who has had to turn to violence to end something but I don't go for the option first thing.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on June 02, 2013, 07:34:56 pm
I, too, feel that violence is feasible as a very last resort or self-defense.

It what one might call a "Martial/Technical Pacifist".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 04, 2013, 02:29:02 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/aa3b07e622ee84e17476ee9fabfc4d47/tumblr_mntrsjn2IY1s3ggdno6_r2_500.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/fc714fe9fa83d50024baeffef3a19c5a/tumblr_mntrsjn2IY1s3ggdno5_r1_500.png)
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(http://24.media.tumblr.com/1e33aa94d8140fcd4a4eb0f226e1b838/tumblr_mntrsjn2IY1s3ggdno11_r1_500.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/e0cb78c269b2b459adccc603c293f3e3/tumblr_mntrsjn2IY1s3ggdno23_r3_500.png)
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2nd annual pride parade in salt lake city. june 2 2013. Hence the Mormon stuff. :P
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Alehksunos on June 04, 2013, 02:57:15 am
Has there ever been an event where a Mormon or two cried No True Scotsman over those kinds of... Mormons?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on June 04, 2013, 10:28:55 am
I'm shocked it has taken this long for Salt Lake to have a LGBT Pride Day. I was at the second humongous March on Washington for Lesbian and Gay Rights, back in October of 1987. Basically at least a half million of us took over DC in a typical friendly, peaceful and fun way for a very serious cause. Guess who were there in droves? Anti LGBT Mormons, with their stupid placards. But guess who was there right next to them, counter protesting? Mormons for Gay Rights!
I read somewhere years ago that a higher percentage of Mormons than the national average identify as LGBT (and many become ex-Mormon). Something to do with the water there in Salt Lake  :P or, is it an instinctual reaction to the oppressively devout nature of Mormonism?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: chad sexington on June 04, 2013, 11:58:50 pm
I read somewhere years ago that a higher percentage of Mormons than the national average identify as LGBT (and many become ex-Mormon). Something to do with the water there in Salt Lake  :P

Well, why do you think they call it the Salt Lake? :P    *hides*
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RinellaWasHere on June 05, 2013, 01:26:07 pm
I gotta say, knowing Warper was a DD sockpuppet makes reading all the pages that are just him agreeing with the pics he posted really freaking weird.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on June 05, 2013, 02:16:45 pm
Weirder still are the ones where he disagrees with himself (http://forums.fstdt.net/index.php?topic=4255.msg162306#msg162306).
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on June 06, 2013, 12:16:41 am
Although it's pretty funny how his socks quote his post right after he makes them.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on June 06, 2013, 12:47:50 am
DD and warper and emperor maximillian look in the mirror and argue with his mom> he's a Bates-ian, not a Christian.
I say that mostly because he wasted my time and belied my attempt to care about him as a fellow forumite. And because he's lame, mostly.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on June 06, 2013, 07:22:07 am
Hi, guys. I'm puzzled over this this with Dynamic Dragon/RealityWarper/sockpuppet guy. Can anybody tell me what's going on? I didn't see any falling out on the main threads (I only check the the top few, anyway). What the heck happened? I'm kinda thrown out of the loop. Can anyone clue me in? I'm confused.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on June 06, 2013, 08:14:15 am
Dynamic Dragon started the "Fuck Anti-Theists! (http://forums.fstdt.net/index.php?topic=4235.0)" thread, because apparently he doesn't like anti-theism. Some of us argued with him. At some point, Reality Warper showed up, agreeing with Dynamic Dragon (and re-starting the discussion every time DD "apologised"). After a while, it comes out that they are actually the same person (http://forums.fstdt.net/index.php?topic=4235.msg162490#msg162490). He gets temp-banned for that. Then he makes another sockpuppet account, Jack the Monster, and gets permabanned for ban-dodging (http://forums.fstdt.net/index.php?topic=3987.125). The he makes yet another sock, Emperor Maximilian. I think those are all.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on June 06, 2013, 09:18:24 am
Dynamic Dragon started the "Fuck Anti-Theists! (http://forums.fstdt.net/index.php?topic=4235.0)" thread, because apparently he doesn't like anti-theism. Some of us argued with him. At some point, Reality Warper showed up, agreeing with Dynamic Dragon (and re-starting the discussion every time DD "apologised"). After a while, it comes out that they are actually the same person (http://forums.fstdt.net/index.php?topic=4235.msg162490#msg162490). He gets temp-banned for that. Then he makes another sockpuppet account, Jack the Monster, and gets permabanned for ban-dodging (http://forums.fstdt.net/index.php?topic=3987.125). The he makes yet another sock, Emperor Maximilian. I think those are all.

Ah....Thanks for explaining. That helped. :)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on June 08, 2013, 02:52:27 pm
I'm back! 

(http://tgfb.net/bitch/src/130938678886.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on June 08, 2013, 08:09:44 pm
AND YOU'RE BACK TO BEING GONE!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on June 11, 2013, 05:38:30 pm
(http://www.bilerico.com/images/immigration_billboard.jpg)

Apparently this billboard was put up by a Catholic organization that supports immigration reform.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on June 11, 2013, 05:51:38 pm
That's more like it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ThunderWulf on June 12, 2013, 11:18:05 pm
Yay!  People practicing what they preach! :D
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on June 13, 2013, 11:20:23 am
(http://www.bilerico.com/images/immigration_billboard.jpg)

Apparently this billboard was put up by a Catholic organization that supports immigration reform.

Why can't all Catholics be this way? Beautiful!


Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on June 20, 2013, 12:27:02 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1011196_598007453554457_828096465_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on June 23, 2013, 10:53:48 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1010747_627732460572897_651834547_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on June 23, 2013, 11:56:37 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1011196_598007453554457_828096465_n.jpg)

*BADUMP-CHING!*
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on June 26, 2013, 01:49:27 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/q71/s720x720/1016843_10151506567681275_1629173490_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 05, 2013, 05:30:06 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mburucBsZQ1r7fp9bo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 07, 2013, 03:20:15 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/636cc02b0906c693f1be4e7026cc8681/tumblr_mmx1g2Dhf71sot5bmo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 07, 2013, 03:48:45 am
"Anti-Zombie Protesters" at a zombie walk in Orlando a few years back. All in good fun, not real protesters, and mocking protest signs. I was a zombie, and have a picture with the guy who was the first zombie in Night Of The Living Dead.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on July 07, 2013, 12:35:55 pm
That is some FUNNY SHIT, right there!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 07, 2013, 12:40:55 pm
That is some FUNNY SHIT, right there!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 07, 2013, 01:41:21 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/713aad326aac1ad0159629f2dd87b92b/tumblr_mphj8mkv6M1qewacoo3_500.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/90b3295a5a734b398f4c5e8d767734b4/tumblr_mphj8mkv6M1qewacoo10_500.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/f822d92fb500ec1e276bcb07bfce8fdb/tumblr_mphj8mkv6M1qewacoo7_500.jpg)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/e512ed8882743633416644d24ac3a1c3/tumblr_mphj8mkv6M1qewacoo5_500.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/ec44e5d203178cf907af62ebcd83a440/tumblr_mphj8mkv6M1qewacoo6_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 07, 2013, 01:43:46 pm
Two thoughts. First: I want aviators. Secondly, I feel so bad for the NSA guy who had to go through my family's internet activity. Actually, make that guys. They likely kept committing suicide due to my father's alone.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on July 09, 2013, 11:15:28 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1045036_358798974223550_1380877823_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 13, 2013, 12:26:36 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/7669e0d0a1d8516160284fc698793b15/tumblr_mpuwlvACkG1qdyqn3o1_500.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/7a65e590bb122163bdbc877e3ce33345/tumblr_mpuwlvACkG1qdyqn3o2_500.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/5d9574debf3ddd9176d798ea49a92c57/tumblr_mpuwlvACkG1qdyqn3o3_r2_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on July 13, 2013, 11:08:23 pm
(https://upworthy-production.s3.amazonaws.com/nugget/50f8db9595546f0002000392/attachments/151081762469155719_oLsZyLQi_c.jpg)

(https://upworthy-production.s3.amazonaws.com/nugget/50f8dc39c5df500002002acd/attachments/145733737912108306_XHbFLqYH_c__1_.jpg)

(https://upworthy-production.s3.amazonaws.com/nugget/50f8dcbdc5df500002002b2b/attachments/82050024430762573_k3g3HyRo_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 13, 2013, 11:22:24 pm
I wonder, if a straight man was raped by a gay guy, would people be screaming "LOL THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR WEARING A THREE PIECE SUIT"?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 13, 2013, 11:27:52 pm
I wonder, if a straight man was raped by a gay guy, would people be screaming "LOL THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR WEARING A THREE PIECE SUIT"?


Men can't be raped, silly.

Ugh I think I need to wash my hands and keyboard.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on July 14, 2013, 10:28:52 am
And your mind.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Canadian Mojo on July 14, 2013, 01:51:32 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/7a65e590bb122163bdbc877e3ce33345/tumblr_mpuwlvACkG1qdyqn3o2_500.jpg)

In all fairness, the entire 'does this mean we get to hit women now?' is actually 'does this mean we are allowed to hit back now?' because males are (were?) traditionally raised to never hit a female and some females exploit it to their advantage by acting in ways that would not be tolerated if they did not enjoy this protection.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 15, 2013, 01:36:36 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/7a65e590bb122163bdbc877e3ce33345/tumblr_mpuwlvACkG1qdyqn3o2_500.jpg)

In all fairness, the entire 'does this mean we get to hit women now?' is actually 'does this mean we are allowed to hit back now?' because males are (were?) traditionally raised to never hit a female and some females exploit it to their advantage by acting in ways that would not be tolerated if they did not enjoy this protection.

One of the lessons I'm happy my dad taught me.  Refrain from hitting ANYONE, if you can.  But, sometimes, you can't, and its best to defend yourself when accosted, doesn't matter who's doing it to you or what gear they might be packing under their belts.  They hit first, you're within your rights to hit back, within reason.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Katsuro on July 15, 2013, 02:05:40 pm
Personally I think if you hit someone then you should expect to get hit back, regardless of who you are or who you hit.  Not that hitting back is always the right thing to do, it depends on the situation, but if you don't want to get hit then how about you don't hit anyone first.  And also, try not being a dick to people.  It's not a guaranteed way to avoid being thumped but it is a start.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: wrightway on July 15, 2013, 04:02:13 pm
I slapped my ex twice during our relationship. Once when he had me by the hair and another when he had me pinned to the wall by my throat. Both times the shock was enough for me to wiggle away, and put some sense in his head. By the logic a lot of people use he would have been justified in hitting me because technically I hit first.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on July 15, 2013, 07:17:47 pm
I slapped my ex twice during our relationship. Once when he had me by the hair and another when he had me pinned to the wall by my throat. Both times the shock was enough for me to wiggle away, and put some sense in his head. By the logic a lot of people use he would have been justified in hitting me because technically I hit first.

Life doesn't run on technicalities. If he got violent with you first, whether that took the form of hitting, grabbing or grappling, he shouldn't have been surprised when you defended yourself.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kit Walker on July 15, 2013, 10:39:04 pm
I slapped my ex twice during our relationship. Once when he had me by the hair and another when he had me pinned to the wall by my throat. Both times the shock was enough for me to wiggle away, and put some sense in his head. By the logic a lot of people use he would have been justified in hitting me because technically I hit first.

If you're going my a completely strict definition of hit, in which only a quick strike counts, then yes. However, if we're using the "my *insert close loved one here* hits me" colloquial standard, I should think that holding you involuntarily by the hair or throat would count as the first move. What is meant by "you can hit back, regardless of gender" is "you can meet force with force in order to defend yourself, regardless of gender". Because by your same technicality, an abused man wouldn't be able to defend if his wife claws at him, throws things at him, chokes him, etc...because she didn't punch, kick, knee, elbow, slap, or headbutt.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on July 15, 2013, 10:59:25 pm
I slapped my ex twice during our relationship. Once when he had me by the hair and another when he had me pinned to the wall by my throat. Both times the shock was enough for me to wiggle away, and put some sense in his head. By the logic a lot of people use he would have been justified in hitting me because technically I hit first.

If you're going my a completely strict definition of hit, in which only a quick strike counts, then yes. However, if we're using the "my *insert close loved one here* hits me" colloquial standard, I should think that holding you involuntarily by the hair or throat would count as the first move. What is meant by "you can hit back, regardless of gender" is "you can meet force with force in order to defend yourself, regardless of gender". Because by your same technicality, an abused man wouldn't be able to defend if his wife claws at him, throws things at him, chokes him, etc...because she didn't punch, kick, knee, elbow, slap, or headbutt.

Is anyone has a problem hitting someone, then follow the advice that I remember coming from some cartoon I once watched, "My pa taught me to never hit a girl, but he never said nuthin' 'bout bear hugs."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: wrightway on July 15, 2013, 11:25:29 pm
This appears to be a Midwestern problem (I was going to say an Ohio problem but I've heard Michiganders use this logic too). Grappling with a woman, pulling her hair, pinning her in place, etc is viewed as okay as long as the strict definition of hit didn't come into play. A lot of people (including some in an abuse group) have told me that I can't call him physically abusive because he did not actually hit me. Hell, half the time I think that way. I catch myself justifying his actions because I can be difficult and he never actually struck me. In the same vein I've been told I could have been charged with domestic violence because I crossed "the line" for what's self defense and what's not.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Valerius on July 15, 2013, 11:30:54 pm
This appears to be a Midwestern problem (I was going to say an Ohio problem but I've heard Michiganders use this logic too). Grappling with a woman, pulling her hair, pinning her in place, etc is viewed as okay as long as the strict definition of hit didn't come into play. A lot of people (including some in an abuse group) have told me that I can't call him physically abusive because he did not actually hit me. Hell, half the time I think that way. I catch myself justifying his actions because I can be difficult and he never actually struck me. In the same vein I've been told I could have been charged with domestic violence because I crossed "the line" for what's self defense and what's not.

Holy shit, seriously? That's insane! I just can't wrap my mind around what a huge double-standard that is!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: wrightway on July 15, 2013, 11:48:31 pm
This appears to be a Midwestern problem (I was going to say an Ohio problem but I've heard Michiganders use this logic too). Grappling with a woman, pulling her hair, pinning her in place, etc is viewed as okay as long as the strict definition of hit didn't come into play. A lot of people (including some in an abuse group) have told me that I can't call him physically abusive because he did not actually hit me. Hell, half the time I think that way. I catch myself justifying his actions because I can be difficult and he never actually struck me. In the same vein I've been told I could have been charged with domestic violence because I crossed "the line" for what's self defense and what's not.

Holy shit, seriously? That's insane! I just can't wrap my mind around what a huge double-standard that is!

It's why I talk about this stuff so much. It's ingrained in the culture where I live and grew up. If I don't remind myself that it's a horrible custom that's held over by how many fundie churches we have I will slip back into accepting the blame. It goes hand and hand with the slut shaming culture that gave us the Stuebenville rapists. Midwesterners accept the double standards and the behavior it spawns as par for the course.

Fuck, I've made myself sad. Could someone please find a good example of social justice now?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on July 16, 2013, 12:18:14 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/9fa18c9bf00fefaee153edf8525104b5/tumblr_mpwfmpH4eN1re1swfo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Katsuro on July 16, 2013, 03:06:49 am
I slapped my ex twice during our relationship. Once when he had me by the hair and another when he had me pinned to the wall by my throat. Both times the shock was enough for me to wiggle away, and put some sense in his head. By the logic a lot of people use he would have been justified in hitting me because technically I hit first.

I guess I should have said "assault first" rather than "hit first".

In your situation your ex should count himself lucky all he got was a slap.  If a man has you by the throat shit just got real so I'd say don't bother with slaps or punches, go straight to kneeing him in the balls.  That'll teach him.

And it's not like in the movies where the guy gets up after a second and chases after the person who kicked him. In real life that fucker is going to be curled up in a ball on the floor for a very long time and he sure as hell won't be running for a while. This gives you plenty of time to get to safety if you fear you're in danger - which if he had you by the throat you probably are.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Katsuro on July 16, 2013, 03:10:23 am
In the same vein I've been told I could have been charged with domestic violence because I crossed "the line" for what's self defense and what's not.

WTF?  So if some bastared is choking you you're not allowed to hit him because he hasn't technically hit you??  Fuck that noise, kick him in the balls.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Vypernight on July 16, 2013, 05:16:00 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/9fa18c9bf00fefaee153edf8525104b5/tumblr_mpwfmpH4eN1re1swfo1_500.png)

I saw that on mine as well.  The only difference is it was a Republican sign.  Don't the Republicans want to cut health care and medicine? 
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: erictheblue on July 16, 2013, 07:10:04 am
This appears to be a Midwestern problem (I was going to say an Ohio problem but I've heard Michiganders use this logic too). Grappling with a woman, pulling her hair, pinning her in place, etc is viewed as okay as long as the strict definition of hit didn't come into play. A lot of people (including some in an abuse group) have told me that I can't call him physically abusive because he did not actually hit me.

They are wrong. Physical abuse does not require hitting. Did it cause pain? Did he do it on purpose? Did you consent? If your answers are "yes, yes, no," then it is physical abuse. (I throw the last one in there to avoid equating consensual S&M with abuse.)

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In the same vein I've been told I could have been charged with domestic violence because I crossed "the line" for what's self defense and what's not.

If all you are doing is fighting back, then no, you can't. On the other hand, it is possible that if the cops are called, both of you would be arrested, simply because the police can't determine right off who is in the wrong. So they arrest both parties and let it get sorted out later.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 16, 2013, 09:22:15 pm
(http://i49.tinypic.com/2yoof2r.jpg)

(http://img.izifunny.com/pics/2012/20121216/640/the-best-protest-signs-of-2012-40-pics_27.jpg)

(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/5/7/21/enhanced-buzz-11497-1336440597-22.jpg)

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m39f1k8ori1r5fdwyo1_500.jpg)

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/557275_365686266835755_1146387770_n.jpg)

(http://www.forkparty.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/4e8e87828e8af.image_.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltrp139u9W1qcip9uo1_400.jpg)
That's our celebrity-worship culture.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on July 16, 2013, 09:56:57 pm

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m39f1k8ori1r5fdwyo1_500.jpg)


That looks shopped.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 16, 2013, 10:15:18 pm
It is shopped.

I think there was actually a religious ad there that ended up having the accidentally ironic message of "Want to meet God? Come Closer".  Look at where it's situation.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on July 17, 2013, 11:16:34 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/1004801_10201787821684090_494326621_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 21, 2013, 08:21:49 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp05ha4dk91qdn5iio1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on July 21, 2013, 08:28:02 pm
Silly girl.  Don't you know only women can be raped?

Ironbite-and only girl kids can be raped...no male can be raped ever!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 21, 2013, 08:31:40 pm
Silly girl.  Don't you know only women can be raped?

Ironbite-and only girl kids can be raped...no male can be raped ever!
Ironically, some of the SJWs believe that, too. They've gone so far left wing they've looped back around and gone right wing.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: agentCDE on July 21, 2013, 10:48:21 pm
Silly girl.  Don't you know only women can be raped?

Ironbite-and only girl kids can be raped...no male can be raped ever!
Ironically, some of the SJWs believe that, too. They've gone so far left wing they've looped back around and gone right wing.

I dunno, I think once you reach that point you don't count as any wing but wingnut.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: anti-nonsense on July 22, 2013, 12:55:00 am
I have to agree, when it comes down to it, the extreme nutbars all end up looking pretty much the same.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 22, 2013, 01:03:06 am
I've heard it once described that the left and right wings are more like a circle.  I'll use compass terminology to make it easier to picture.

at a starting point facing in (North), you can go left-wing or right-wing.  At some point you hit the full definition.  Left (East) and Right (West).  However, after that, as you get more extreme (and become a wingnut), you start to lose that difference and eventually start to become the same (South).
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 22, 2013, 04:21:39 am
I've heard it once described that the left and right wings are more like a circle.  I'll use compass terminology to make it easier to picture.

at a starting point facing in (North), you can go left-wing or right-wing.  At some point you hit the full definition.  Left (East) and Right (West).  However, after that, as you get more extreme (and become a wingnut), you start to lose that difference and eventually start to become the same (South).
Huh. Makes sense to me.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: DiscoBerry on July 22, 2013, 06:45:02 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/caKYhBO.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/oBeWAhr.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 23, 2013, 01:18:03 pm
(https://d22r54gnmuhwmk.cloudfront.net/photos/7/cu/lk/CncULKueLkRTLuw-556x313-noPad.jpg)

Protesting the protection of rapists by colleges. The "I've lost count" just... wow. I think I'm going to go puke up my poptart.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 23, 2013, 02:54:01 pm
I'm glad to see at least four guys in that picture.

That being said, geez... colleges aren't supposed to learn from the Catholic church!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 23, 2013, 03:47:37 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/55356b8ad73cb82f10370aaa60fea9f1/tumblr_mqelt8cbTs1qh5pa8o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Alehksunos on July 23, 2013, 04:16:46 pm
^ The above image makes me sad and angry at the same time. In the backdrop is the capitol building of Austin, Texas (the stronghold of the Texas state, and ironically the most socially liberal city in all of Texas, which also seats some of the most reactionary, regressive zealots in all the United States). I will now just think about how the Dems of my home state promised a lawsuit against the passing of one of the most restrictive anti-abortion (and anti-sex) bills in all the United States, and nothing happens. Just Planned Parenthood clinics closing, and nobody putting a stop to it. These men (and even a few women) who run this state all pass so many unjust laws and reject any bills and proposal remotely beneficial to our state in the name of Free-market Capitalism and in Jesus Christ's name always want their way, and nobody outside Texas gives a damn. No body wants to help us because everybody thinks we're a bunch of rednecks and hillbillies, all the negative stereotypes of the Bible Belt, which much is mostly true in the rural parts of these states, but what about the urban Texans, even urban Louisianans, Oklahomans, Arkansans, Mississippians, Alabamans, Georgians, Floridians and Tennesseans? The poor and alienated population of those states? Nobody fucking cares about them, and that's fucking bullshit.

/rant
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on July 23, 2013, 06:33:16 pm
Well about Oklahoma Madcat can vouch but everyone there is cuckoo.  Also the truth is in rural states they will have the power. 
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Her3tiK on July 23, 2013, 08:45:16 pm
^ The above image makes me sad and angry at the same time. In the backdrop is the capitol building of Austin, Texas (the stronghold of the Texas state, and ironically the most socially liberal city in all of Texas, which also seats some of the most reactionary, regressive zealots in all the United States). I will now just think about how the Dems of my home state promised a lawsuit against the passing of one of the most restrictive anti-abortion (and anti-sex) bills in all the United States, and nothing happens. Just Planned Parenthood clinics closing, and nobody putting a stop to it. These men (and even a few women) who run this state all pass so many unjust laws and reject any bills and proposal remotely beneficial to our state in the name of Free-market Capitalism and in Jesus Christ's name always want their way, and nobody outside Texas gives a damn. No body wants to help us because everybody thinks we're a bunch of rednecks and hillbillies, all the negative stereotypes of the Bible Belt, which much is mostly true in the rural parts of these states, but what about the urban Texans, even urban Louisianans, Oklahomans, Arkansans, Mississippians, Alabamans, Georgians, Floridians and Tennesseans? The poor and alienated population of those states? Nobody fucking cares about them, and that's fucking bullshit.

/rant
Get out while you still can!

...that's really about the best advice I have for the more civilized Texans.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Alehksunos on July 23, 2013, 11:17:09 pm
^ I would. But I don't have any money or a job or anything to support myself in the life outside of Dodge.

Guess I'm going to have to kill myself (not really).
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 25, 2013, 12:50:49 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/1a1a460cbbde127887e43f8f34efeb7c/tumblr_mqfcgtGI9Q1qbdm0so3_500.jpg)

The sign on the right says (to the best of my knowledge): "I’m 17. The government says I don’t exist. Nazis say I should be killed. But I’m gonna live."

More from the protests in Russia: http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/photos-from-russia-everyone-needs-to-see

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsx0liO8Tq1r426ugo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on August 12, 2013, 06:11:19 pm
Well I was on Deviant Art and found a group dedicated to old school propaganda posters. I was hoping to find those funny fake ones done for thinks like Star Wars and whatever. Well there were a few of those, but the majority of it was real stuff, both good, bad, and somewhere in between. I'm gonna post the best I found here for your view pleasure. Link: http://propagandacenter.deviantart.com/

Warning, lots of large pictures.
(click to show/hide)

Here's a couple joke posters I found.
(click to show/hide)

I guess I'm a terrorist now for wanting to stockpile food and ammo, and buy a few more guns like AKs, Saiga 12s, FAL, AR-15, 870 shotgun, 1911, and more, and expand my already sizable knife collection. Hmm, now where'd I put that dang turban? What? It's what I do that interests me. Guess other hobbyists like train enthusiast also get labelled terrorists. Guess I should hide those train magazines too while I'm at it...

*raises knife above head and runs off doing this*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6As8gwH4BU
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on August 12, 2013, 06:30:14 pm
^ The above image makes me sad and angry at the same time. In the backdrop is the capitol building of Austin, Texas (the stronghold of the Texas state, and ironically the most socially liberal city in all of Texas, which also seats some of the most reactionary, regressive zealots in all the United States). I will now just think about how the Dems of my home state promised a lawsuit against the passing of one of the most restrictive anti-abortion (and anti-sex) bills in all the United States, and nothing happens. Just Planned Parenthood clinics closing, and nobody putting a stop to it. These men (and even a few women) who run this state all pass so many unjust laws and reject any bills and proposal remotely beneficial to our state in the name of Free-market Capitalism and in Jesus Christ's name always want their way, and nobody outside Texas gives a damn. No body wants to help us because everybody thinks we're a bunch of rednecks and hillbillies, all the negative stereotypes of the Bible Belt, which much is mostly true in the rural parts of these states, but what about the urban Texans, even urban Louisianans, Oklahomans, Arkansans, Mississippians, Alabamans, Georgians, Floridians and Tennesseans? The poor and alienated population of those states? Nobody fucking cares about them, and that's fucking bullshit.

/rant

I know, change is hard. Stay strong honey. Remember, it will end. It will end! We outside of Texas do care. Also, Texas has a rapidly-rising Hispanic population & Hispanics these days tend to mostly vote Democratic. You fight will not be in vain.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 17, 2013, 02:43:13 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/1ebeb053380c33c60da3dc734092df30/tumblr_mqyiizNtJh1rxk12to1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Her3tiK on August 17, 2013, 07:28:06 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsx0liO8Tq1r426ugo1_500.jpg)
Not that I really want to start another trans debate, but aren't one's genitalia a defining trait of their gender?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on August 17, 2013, 07:33:06 pm
Not that I really want to start another trans debate, but aren't one's genitalia a defining trait of their gender?

Not necessarily.  As I have a dear friend that's actually intersex (in her case, she has breasts, a cock half the size of normal, one half-functioning ovary and a partially-formed womb), genitalia isn't always the best outward identifier.  A lot of folks hear her voice and assume male, but chromosomal structure actually landed her with what amounts to an XXY.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Auri-El on August 17, 2013, 08:24:28 pm
Besides which, genitalia are a defining trait of one's sex, not gender. As I understand it, gender is primarily a mental/emotional aspect.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 17, 2013, 09:32:44 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsx0liO8Tq1r426ugo1_500.jpg)
Not that I really want to start another trans debate, but aren't one's genitalia a defining trait of their gender?

Sex, not gender. Don't confuse the two.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 17, 2013, 10:51:27 pm
Not that I really want to start another trans debate, but aren't one's genitalia a defining trait of their gender?

Not necessarily.  As I have a dear friend that's actually intersex (in her case, she has breasts, a cock half the size of normal, one half-functioning ovary and a partially-formed womb), genitalia isn't always the best outward identifier.  A lot of folks hear her voice and assume male, but chromosomal structure actually landed her with what amounts to an XXY.
Damn, genetics, you scary.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on August 17, 2013, 10:59:17 pm
Not that I really want to start another trans debate, but aren't one's genitalia a defining trait of their gender?

Not necessarily.  As I have a dear friend that's actually intersex (in her case, she has breasts, a cock half the size of normal, one half-functioning ovary and a partially-formed womb), genitalia isn't always the best outward identifier.  A lot of folks hear her voice and assume male, but chromosomal structure actually landed her with what amounts to an XXY.
Damn, genetics, you scary.

She's also a dear friend :3 I wouldn't trade her or her boyfriend for the world.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 17, 2013, 11:00:57 pm
Not that I really want to start another trans debate, but aren't one's genitalia a defining trait of their gender?

Not necessarily.  As I have a dear friend that's actually intersex (in her case, she has breasts, a cock half the size of normal, one half-functioning ovary and a partially-formed womb), genitalia isn't always the best outward identifier.  A lot of folks hear her voice and assume male, but chromosomal structure actually landed her with what amounts to an XXY.
Damn, genetics, you scary.

She's also a dear friend :3 I wouldn't trade her or her boyfriend for the world.
Awww. My point is, Genetics: they can fuck up your life before you're even alive.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on August 17, 2013, 11:34:30 pm
Not that I really want to start another trans debate, but aren't one's genitalia a defining trait of their gender?

Not necessarily.  As I have a dear friend that's actually intersex (in her case, she has breasts, a cock half the size of normal, one half-functioning ovary and a partially-formed womb), genitalia isn't always the best outward identifier.  A lot of folks hear her voice and assume male, but chromosomal structure actually landed her with what amounts to an XXY.
Damn, genetics, you scary.

She's also a dear friend :3 I wouldn't trade her or her boyfriend for the world.
Awww. My point is, Genetics: they can fuck up your life before you're even alive.

That, I will drink to for the end of my days.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: lord gibbon on August 18, 2013, 01:06:08 am
There's a reason they call it the genetic lottery.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on August 18, 2013, 11:49:26 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/ed566f4935e83455caf1e58a63a280ad/tumblr_mrreebD2BD1qi579do1_500.jpg)

This has been making the rounds on tumblr, and from what I understand, it's Benedict Cumberbatch.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on August 19, 2013, 12:07:40 am
Good on him, then. Hope lots of other celebs follow the example.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on August 19, 2013, 12:28:35 am

I guess I'm a terrorist now for wanting to stockpile food and ammo, and buy a few more guns like AKs, Saiga 12s, FAL, AR-15, 870 shotgun, 1911, and more, and expand my already sizable knife collection. Hmm, now where'd I put that dang turban? What? It's what I do that interests me. Guess other hobbyists like train enthusiast also get labelled terrorists. Guess I should hide those train magazines too while I'm at it...

Maybe not a terrorist, but definitely wasteful.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: lord gibbon on August 19, 2013, 12:32:53 am
How amusing that he thinks all terrorists are Muslim, AND that all Muslims wear turbans. I don't think I like him.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 25, 2013, 12:28:01 am
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/8d91c01a39e2d57959885bc1d8660307/tumblr_ms221sFNCl1qfengno1_500.jpg)

Part of me feels bad that he had to trot out that sign from 50 years ago.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on August 25, 2013, 01:46:59 pm

I guess I'm a terrorist now for wanting to stockpile food and ammo, and buy a few more guns like AKs, Saiga 12s, FAL, AR-15, 870 shotgun, 1911, and more, and expand my already sizable knife collection. Hmm, now where'd I put that dang turban? What? It's what I do that interests me. Guess other hobbyists like train enthusiast also get labelled terrorists. Guess I should hide those train magazines too while I'm at it...

Maybe not a terrorist, but definitely wasteful.

Wasteful how?

How amusing that he thinks all terrorists are Muslim, AND that all Muslims wear turbans. I don't think I like him.

Amusing how you think I was serious and not saying it sarcastically. The kind of people who would think I'm a terrorist would also probably think that all terrorists wear turbans.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: lord gibbon on August 25, 2013, 04:21:15 pm
Oh. Derp. For some reason I thought that was someone from outside being quoted. Sorry.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 26, 2013, 02:29:32 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/d137311a22c67b5f6faa098c37940629/tumblr_mocq8biptM1s7s0tto1_500.jpg)
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/4fd42fe402a1e18a06817783da1b6296/tumblr_mocq8biptM1s7s0tto10_500.jpg)
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/f728db9081781fae38b06edec5bf9ea1/tumblr_mocq8biptM1s7s0tto3_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 26, 2013, 02:47:35 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/d137311a22c67b5f6faa098c37940629/tumblr_mocq8biptM1s7s0tto1_500.jpg)

That is the most beautiful thing I have seen today.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on August 26, 2013, 07:53:13 pm

I guess I'm a terrorist now for wanting to stockpile food and ammo, and buy a few more guns like AKs, Saiga 12s, FAL, AR-15, 870 shotgun, 1911, and more, and expand my already sizable knife collection. Hmm, now where'd I put that dang turban? What? It's what I do that interests me. Guess other hobbyists like train enthusiast also get labelled terrorists. Guess I should hide those train magazines too while I'm at it...

Maybe not a terrorist, but definitely wasteful.

Wasteful how?

For what reason are you stockpiling food and ammunition?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on August 26, 2013, 08:00:05 pm
Probably when people try and kill him for a stupid reason (he lives in hell)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on August 26, 2013, 08:34:01 pm
Here because of text, not the picture.

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/999767_630967500267818_91571880_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on August 26, 2013, 09:54:49 pm

I guess I'm a terrorist now for wanting to stockpile food and ammo, and buy a few more guns like AKs, Saiga 12s, FAL, AR-15, 870 shotgun, 1911, and more, and expand my already sizable knife collection. Hmm, now where'd I put that dang turban? What? It's what I do that interests me. Guess other hobbyists like train enthusiast also get labelled terrorists. Guess I should hide those train magazines too while I'm at it...

Maybe not a terrorist, but definitely wasteful.

Wasteful how?

For what reason are you stockpiling food and ammunition?

I'm not stockpiling any right now, but I'd consider doing it in the future.

For food, it would be in case any number of bad things happens that would necessitate an emergency supply of food. I'm not saying keep a lot of food that can go bad quickly around, I mean freeze dried hiking food, MREs, and such that keep for several years.

For Ammo, I don't know if you know, but ammo prices have been going up about as crazily as gas prices. Not because of the recent freak-out some people have had, but because of the simple inflation of prices for things like brass, gunpowder, lead, etc. This means buying more now would allow me to not buy more later when prices are even higher.

If those answers aren't satisfactory, how 'bout zombie apocalypse?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on August 26, 2013, 10:09:56 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/d137311a22c67b5f6faa098c37940629/tumblr_mocq8biptM1s7s0tto1_500.jpg)

That is the most beautiful thing I have seen today.

common courtesy humanity is beautiful now? what has this poor world come to?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 26, 2013, 10:36:57 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/d137311a22c67b5f6faa098c37940629/tumblr_mocq8biptM1s7s0tto1_500.jpg)

That is the most beautiful thing I have seen today.

common courtesy humanity is beautiful now? what has this poor world come to?
Nothing. It's never been common. People have always been shit.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 26, 2013, 11:07:44 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/d137311a22c67b5f6faa098c37940629/tumblr_mocq8biptM1s7s0tto1_500.jpg)

That is the most beautiful thing I have seen today.

common courtesy humanity is beautiful now? what has this poor world come to?

We're not in a post-rape culture society so... you tell me.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on August 26, 2013, 11:45:50 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/d137311a22c67b5f6faa098c37940629/tumblr_mocq8biptM1s7s0tto1_500.jpg)

That is the most beautiful thing I have seen today.

common courtesy humanity is beautiful now? what has this poor world come to?

We're not in a post-rape culture society so... you tell me.

I like it more for the fact that it's putting the responsibility where it should be, rather than warning women not to go to clubs or wear skimpy outfits.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on August 26, 2013, 11:47:40 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/d137311a22c67b5f6faa098c37940629/tumblr_mocq8biptM1s7s0tto1_500.jpg)

That is the most beautiful thing I have seen today.

common courtesy humanity is beautiful now? what has this poor world come to?

We're not in a post-rape culture society so... you tell me.

see shep, you bring up an interesting point. i've been having a sad for a few days coming from a huge feeling of helplessness at the world around me. that sign... i find it cute at best. it ain't gonna work. it's not even something because rapists dissociate themselves from their conduct or they revel in it. i'm saddened that i can't find a solution to the problem, but every cell in my body is screaming out to do something about the shit state of the world. what can i do? i'm just one metalhead in one tiny part of western europe. i've got a lot of pent-up anger waiting to be released in a righteous cause, but i can't think of how to bring that righteous cause about. bombs don't work. petitions don't work. mass protest doesn't work. i'd like to take a cluebat to every single bigot/homophobe/macho/rapist/what have you out there and screaming at them "you are a shame to the human race, now get your act together or get the fuck off  of the good people's planet". most of my friends don't see why i'm so jaded or bitter. i try and live my life as to better the world around me, but i'm just one guy getting discouraged fast. if anyone has the answer, i'm willing to listen.

ps: ok, the methods stated do work somewhat, but not radically or fast enough for my taste. i just want evil to end, period. head online and stop seeing all this hatred, atrocities, and animalistic behavior coming from the human race.

edit @ r.u. sirious: that's the problem. you think some rapist-wannabe will read that sign and think, "huh, better not rape no one today". i don't. that's the problem. it sounds too complacent, too "yes-man"-y... ok, i'm bitter. i'll be better tomorrow after some sleep.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 27, 2013, 12:15:09 am
Legally I can't say to be a serial killer going around eliminating them. So, don't be a serial killer going around eliminating them.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on August 27, 2013, 01:46:55 am
If those answers aren't satisfactory, how 'bout zombie apocalypse?

The coming zombie/raptor apocalypse is a legitimate reason to stock up on ammo and food. My apologies.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 27, 2013, 01:47:43 am
Except the exact problem with rape culture is because of the lack of it being considered wrong and on the rapist, not the raped.

Which is exactly what the note was doing, putting it on the rapist for raping. Nobody forces you to rape someone.

I dunno man. I think a little more thought into the fact that with more people putting blame on the rapist and making it very well known that it isn't just a 'mistake' or a misunderstanding you'll see that things can change and we can have fewer cases of rape.

The problem is with the people who want to brush it under the rug. Not the people who put a spotlight on it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lithp on August 27, 2013, 03:08:44 am
To build on what Shane said, "rape culture" isn't about the actual rapists per se so much as the environment that fosters them. The supposedly well-meaning bystanders. They are whom you want to target, because they can make it so that a rapist is more likely to be tried, convicted, & punished appropriately, & less stress is likely to be put on the victim. In some senses this is a ridiculously slow process, but in others we've come a long way in just a few decades.

It is vanishingly unlikely that every injustice will be ended in your lifetime, so don't look for that. Focus your attentions so that you don't get burnt out.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on August 27, 2013, 09:24:32 am
To build on what Shane said, "rape culture" isn't about the actual rapists per se so much as the environment that fosters them. The supposedly well-meaning bystanders. They are whom you want to target, because they can make it so that a rapist is more likely to be tried, convicted, & punished appropriately, & less stress is likely to be put on the victim. In some senses this is a ridiculously slow process, but in others we've come a long way in just a few decades.

It is vanishingly unlikely that every injustice will be ended in your lifetime, so don't look for that. Focus your attentions so that you don't get burnt out.
back after some sleep, and i reread my post. i maintain what i stated, but i was having a bit of a rizzo moment, there.
which is why i propose the triple effect: boost victim help (legal, psychological, medical), break the taboo (awareness, shocking if need be), and boost awareness to the general population. where i am, it's either taboo (don't speak bout it, it don't exist) or negation (it only happens to other people) or worse, victim blaming (wouldn't have happened if you weren't a slut). all three are wrong, and my university declined having this kind of awareness club, yet thankfully has a sex-ed club that offers contraception and std checks. "sex is fun, rape doesn't exist"... fuckin' hippies...

so yeah, i'm trying to not burn out, but even so, i'd like to do something, not even something big, but no answers. i won't burn out, even if i do get bitter about it sometimes.

@PHH: i have sworn a vow of pacifism that is sorely tried enough as it is without you reminding me that post-natal abortion exists, but i appreciate the sentiment.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 27, 2013, 12:01:14 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdujcsAXx41rbuoibo1_500.jpg)

I'm not sure there's a way to move from the currency economy with it so widespread now but it's wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Yla on August 27, 2013, 06:36:59 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdujcsAXx41rbuoibo1_500.jpg)

I'm not sure there's a way to move from the currency economy with it so widespread now but it's wishful thinking.
What is this even about?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 27, 2013, 06:40:28 pm
The fact that you have to pay to live at all?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on August 27, 2013, 07:12:51 pm
Yeah, but it's not like people would grow food and give it away for free
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 27, 2013, 07:13:52 pm
Hence my caption.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on August 27, 2013, 07:40:36 pm
Interestingly, if I had the room and time to invest, I'd have a garden.  And I'd give away the extra.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 27, 2013, 10:24:35 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/69c5bba78c63a97d7436ce36f100958f/tumblr_mm5409KHic1soh8kno1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 27, 2013, 10:27:07 pm
Interestingly, if I had the room and time to invest, I'd have a garden.  And I'd give away the extra.
I have the room, but not the time, money, or skill. My family is notorious for killing unkillable plants.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: LeTipex on August 28, 2013, 12:13:36 am
Yeah, you know, there's a reason we don't grow food in our back gardens and build our shelters out of mud bricks and wood anymore.

That's the same reason we use money.

(I don't really care for the inequalities money create, but they're still better than "we have steel swords and you don't, give us your food and die" inequalities of the past. There are two ways to imagine a world without money : back to before-bronze-age standarts or post-scarcity world. I'd rather focus on the latter and try to do damage control in the meantime, that keep looking back at the former with nostalgia.)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on August 28, 2013, 12:39:45 am
Technically, we could also try communism again.

Otherwise money is pretty much needed in a society where people may work in a factory or space center rather than spend their days farming. (And you can't really use bartering with science related stuff. Unless you go like "give me food and my team will build the anti-meteor laser.")
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 28, 2013, 12:44:27 am
I'd prefer bartering. You work at my store, I'll give you free clothing. You give help me garden, you get some crops. You run your own garden, you can use it for trading. Stuff like that.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Meshakhad on August 28, 2013, 12:51:14 am
I'd prefer bartering. You work at my store, I'll give you free clothing. You give help me garden, you get some crops. You run your own garden, you can use it for trading. Stuff like that.

Yeah, but the problem is that not everyone produces something that everyone needs. Currency is a more efficient system. And it allows for advanced and specialized professions which modern society needs.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: LeTipex on August 28, 2013, 12:58:51 am
I'd prefer bartering. You work at my store, I'll give you free clothing. You give help me garden, you get some crops. You run your own garden, you can use it for trading. Stuff like that.

Yeah, but the problem is that not everyone produces something that everyone needs. Currency is a more efficient system. And it allows for advanced and specialized professions which modern society needs.
This.

Basically, if you're a doctor and you save lives, it's not cool to get a ton of tomatoes every month because the son of the tomato-grower is always sick, and go naked because fuck you, the lady that makes clothing never gets ill. And you can't really make your own clothes, because that would mean that you can't take as much time to heal people. Money has evolved out of bartering for a reason : it allows everyone to choose what they get out of the deal.

Technically, we could also try communism again.

Otherwise money is pretty much needed in a society where people may work in a factory or space center rather than spend their days farming. (And you can't really use bartering with science related stuff. Unless you go like "give me food and my team will build the anti-meteor laser.")
Communism might work, but it requires devoting such an incredible amount of ressources to micro-managing every transaction in the community that applying it worldwide would be less than ideal. (Maybe by using AI once we get there, but for now, not really)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on August 28, 2013, 09:59:13 am
*massages a pile of caps*
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sour Grapes on August 28, 2013, 10:11:16 am
*massages a pile of caps*

Guess I ought to start buying glass bottles, and saving the caps?  Which brand do you think would be viable currency, or do they just have to be metal caps to work?  Or would pull-tabs be more viable, considering they're more pervasive?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 28, 2013, 10:13:06 am
*massages a pile of caps*

Guess I ought to start buying glass bottles, and saving the caps?  Which brand do you think would be viable currency, or do they just have to be metal caps to work?  Or would pull-tabs be more viable, considering they're more pervasive?
You need glass bottles and their caps. Any brand works, as shown since Sunset Sarsaparilla also works.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheL on August 28, 2013, 11:01:21 am
Technically, we could also try communism again.

Otherwise money is pretty much needed in a society where people may work in a factory or space center rather than spend their days farming. (And you can't really use bartering with science related stuff. Unless you go like "give me food and my team will build the anti-meteor laser.")
Communism might work, but it requires devoting such an incredible amount of ressources to micro-managing every transaction in the community that applying it worldwide would be less than ideal. (Maybe by using AI once we get there, but for now, not really)

Yeah, communism only really works on a small scale.  Once you scale up past a million people or so, your society is too large for pure communism to ever work.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on August 28, 2013, 05:10:20 pm
Technically, we could also try communism again.

Otherwise money is pretty much needed in a society where people may work in a factory or space center rather than spend their days farming. (And you can't really use bartering with science related stuff. Unless you go like "give me food and my team will build the anti-meteor laser.")
Communism might work, but it requires devoting such an incredible amount of ressources to micro-managing every transaction in the community that applying it worldwide would be less than ideal. (Maybe by using AI once we get there, but for now, not really)

Yeah, communism only really works on a small scale.  Once you scale up past a million people or so, your society is too large for pure communism to ever work.

I don't think it can scale well past a hundred people, and that's pushing it. The only scale I've ever seen it work on effectively is on the scale of immediate family or other people who you inhabit the same dwelling place with.

Even in small new-agey communities where they share everything, the person leading it is often taking more than their share.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on August 28, 2013, 05:30:35 pm
Technically, we could also try communism again.

Otherwise money is pretty much needed in a society where people may work in a factory or space center rather than spend their days farming. (And you can't really use bartering with science related stuff. Unless you go like "give me food and my team will build the anti-meteor laser.")
Communism might work, but it requires devoting such an incredible amount of ressources to micro-managing every transaction in the community that applying it worldwide would be less than ideal. (Maybe by using AI once we get there, but for now, not really)

Yeah, communism only really works on a small scale.  Once you scale up past a million people or so, your society is too large for pure communism to ever work.

I don't think it can scale well past a hundred people, and that's pushing it. The only scale I've ever seen it work on effectively is on the scale of immediate family or other people who you inhabit the same dwelling place with.

Even in small new-agey communities where they share everything, the person leading it is often taking more than their share.

i dunno, i've got a lot of contacts with the vagrant gutter punk scene who say there are actual state sponsored anarchic villages in spain. it boils down to "help your neighbor, he'll help you out, and remember cookout at 1pm and 8 pm". it can work, just not on a worldwide scale, or anything bigger than a village, to be honest
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: wrightway on August 29, 2013, 12:07:26 pm
(https://sphotos-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1229820_616827895004821_824585199_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: chad sexington on August 30, 2013, 04:40:24 am
Fuck yeah!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 30, 2013, 09:15:08 am
(click to show/hide)

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/05615666d114717df93797ce823831d2/tumblr_msdg0s7h5j1s5cyzso1_500.jpg)

Workers got tired of being mistreated by the boss. Posted this sign and didn't come into work.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on August 31, 2013, 03:56:03 am
Cancer is not an excuse? I suppose this boss won't allow time off even for your OWN funeral.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 31, 2013, 08:31:46 am
Cancer is not an excuse? I suppose this boss won't allow time off even for your OWN funeral.
Works em to the bone ^_^
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 31, 2013, 09:28:56 am
Cancer is not an excuse? I suppose this boss won't allow time off even for your OWN funeral.
Works em to the bone ^_^

You should whip yourself for such an abominable pun.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 31, 2013, 10:37:19 am
Cancer is not an excuse? I suppose this boss won't allow time off even for your OWN funeral.
Works em to the bone ^_^

You should whip yourself for such an abominable pun.
What a snappy comeback.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on September 02, 2013, 06:33:28 pm
(https://sphotos-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1185725_506168229476236_1588571829_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Quasirodent on September 04, 2013, 11:34:34 am


(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdujcsAXx41rbuoibo1_500.jpg)

I'm not sure there's a way to move from the currency economy with it so widespread now but it's wishful thinking.

In response to the sign - life is a struggle, survival necessitates effort.  Money is a physical representation of the work we put into our own survival.  In the past, we'd have paid for our lives with constant physical exertion - finding food, fleeing from predators, fighting for reproductive rights and territory... now we work and fear differently, and pay with slips of printed paper.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 04, 2013, 11:44:38 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7wokzFejz1rs2ijco1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on September 05, 2013, 12:00:58 am
That's awesome.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: KZN02 on September 05, 2013, 12:04:25 am
(click to show/hide)

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/05615666d114717df93797ce823831d2/tumblr_msdg0s7h5j1s5cyzso1_500.jpg)

Workers got tired of being mistreated by the boss. Posted this sign and didn't come into work.
Looks like an update to this story (http://gawker.com/infamous-boss-fires-back-at-former-staff-those-asshol-1251227786)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on September 05, 2013, 12:10:05 am
(click to show/hide)

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/05615666d114717df93797ce823831d2/tumblr_msdg0s7h5j1s5cyzso1_500.jpg)

Workers got tired of being mistreated by the boss. Posted this sign and didn't come into work.
Looks like an update to this story (http://gawker.com/infamous-boss-fires-back-at-former-staff-those-asshol-1251227786)
Nope, still believe the employees.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on September 05, 2013, 12:23:15 am
Either side could be lying just as easily as the other, but at the same time I've seen too much shit of bad bosses who will cite their employees under the weakest conditions and try to use it against them.

The fact that gawker immediately sided with the manager makes me a bit distrustful of it, too.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on September 05, 2013, 06:17:34 am
I once worked for a telemarketing company where I was told if I got one more perfect review I'd be up for a raise. The shift manager was supposed to listen to two phone calls and rate them. Which she did, and I got my perfect score. She then told upper management that she thought I could tell when she was listening to my calls so she "borrowed someone else's headset" *coughsbullshitcoughs* and listened to a third. She marked that one as 0% because a man asked to be put on the do not call list and I didn't read him the three page do not call disclaimer. "Oh, well, if you don't read that it's an automatic failure."

I complained to upper management...and was promptly fired. Turns out the shift manager was the daughter in law of the general manager, and the general manager decided me threatening to contact corporate if she wasn't reprimanded was a "threat of violence" against a superior.
Wow. That's horrible. Always immediately go as high as possible. No second chances.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on September 05, 2013, 09:10:42 am
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7770809600/h171C4136/)

Does this qualify?

I think it's clever.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on September 05, 2013, 04:23:45 pm
It qualifies.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Leafy on September 05, 2013, 09:37:09 pm
I like it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on September 06, 2013, 02:46:39 pm
It's bang on right.....BOOM! Head Shot, correct  ;D
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on September 11, 2013, 12:40:49 pm
(https://sphotos-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1236219_10151659598886275_984095275_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: wrightway on September 19, 2013, 05:10:02 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/19f56b36f10a0dd0abe0d7cd5b7b2924/tumblr_mk1e0qzxub1rht04lo1_r1_1280.gif)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on September 19, 2013, 05:51:34 pm
About a year out of date, but I'm not sure if anybody posted it here (and it's still relevant, say to the 2014 midterm elections):

(http://cdn.front.moveon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/2012chart-full.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on September 19, 2013, 10:33:11 pm
Flowcharts make me happy, for some odd reason.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on September 19, 2013, 10:38:27 pm
I think it's because they flow.  Good things tend to flow.  Flowing is nice.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on September 19, 2013, 11:12:56 pm
About a year out of date, but I'm not sure if anybody posted it here (and it's still relevant, say to the 2014 midterm elections):

(http://cdn.front.moveon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/2012chart-full.jpg)

Yeaahhh.....

(http://gulagbound.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/osor201211041949gb.jpg)

No.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: KZN02 on September 20, 2013, 12:04:55 am
The red and blue almost confused me.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dan on September 20, 2013, 02:05:17 pm
I think it's because they flow.  Good things tend to flow.  Flowing is nice.
Unless you've had a bad curry.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ghoti on September 20, 2013, 02:41:26 pm
I think it's because they flow.  Good things tend to flow.  Flowing is nice.
Unless you've had a bad curry.
Or you have a uterus.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Feral Dog on September 21, 2013, 02:41:03 am
I think it's because they flow.  Good things tend to flow.  Flowing is nice.
Unless you've had a bad curry.
Or you have a uterus.

Or a runny nose.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on September 21, 2013, 03:22:57 am
Or swag.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on September 21, 2013, 12:21:13 pm
(awful. don't click!)
(click to show/hide)
It flows better, any way, or a reallllly bad case of it could  :o
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on September 21, 2013, 12:28:25 pm
Okay, okay, okay... so not everything good flows.... :p
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 22, 2013, 07:43:13 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/804d60e87a33b288cdf7b84774224847/tumblr_mt0fq7KZbH1s2let3o1_500.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/399e1f3e0dcd752be0d0a16370602973/tumblr_mt0fq7KZbH1s2let3o2_r1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Morgenleoht on September 22, 2013, 08:44:59 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/804d60e87a33b288cdf7b84774224847/tumblr_mt0fq7KZbH1s2let3o1_500.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/399e1f3e0dcd752be0d0a16370602973/tumblr_mt0fq7KZbH1s2let3o2_r1_500.jpg)

My uni's Queer Collective got people to stick those all over the place. :
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: wrightway on September 22, 2013, 09:25:36 pm
Where do you get those? I have a library bathroom they need to go in.

Back story. I was at the public library on monday and noticed a giant red sign on the first floor women's restroom saying that the women's bathroom is for women only. I asked why it was there. One of the librarians told me that "some guy dressed like a woman" tried to use the restroom. Not having been there I don't know if it was part of the prank war the middle schools are having right now or if it's an actual LGBT issue. I still want the stickers.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: KZN02 on September 22, 2013, 10:04:28 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yyMaGdl_O8
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Random Gal on September 22, 2013, 11:00:51 pm
video

What the hell did I just watch?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: KZN02 on September 22, 2013, 11:04:32 pm
video

What the hell did I just watch?
hiimdaisy's Persona 4 comic as dubbed by StrawberryCreme26.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Morgenleoht on September 23, 2013, 03:07:15 am
Where do you get those? I have a library bathroom they need to go in.

Back story. I was at the public library on monday and noticed a giant red sign on the first floor women's restroom saying that the women's bathroom is for women only. I asked why it was there. One of the librarians told me that "some guy dressed like a woman" tried to use the restroom. Not having been there I don't know if it was part of the prank war the middle schools are having right now or if it's an actual LGBT issue. I still want the stickers.

I've just asked my Collective and posted the backstory.

You need to contact Hiba Casablanca or Cat Rose at the NUS. The stickers are for an Australian student union, so I'm not sure how things will go. http://nusqueer.wordpress.com/2013/07/25/10-ways-to-engage-with-the-nus-queer-department/

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Yla on September 23, 2013, 06:48:19 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/804d60e87a33b288cdf7b84774224847/tumblr_mt0fq7KZbH1s2let3o1_500.jpg)
/thread  :'-)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on September 24, 2013, 01:42:06 am
All the posters on this link are great. (http://www.upworthy.com/6-overused-creepy-sentences-that-i-wish-always-had-these-surprise-endings?c=bl3)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on September 24, 2013, 01:56:52 am
All the posters on this link are great. (http://www.upworthy.com/6-overused-creepy-sentences-that-i-wish-always-had-these-surprise-endings?c=bl3)
Agreed.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on September 24, 2013, 02:36:54 am
Suddenly, I'm thinking of Wacko Warner in Animaniacs going "I hafta potty".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Meshakhad on September 24, 2013, 11:46:07 am
All the posters on this link are great. (http://www.upworthy.com/6-overused-creepy-sentences-that-i-wish-always-had-these-surprise-endings?c=bl3)
Agreed.

Reminds me of the Ordinary Muslim Man (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ordinary-muslim-man) meme.

Come to think of it, we should start an "Actual Nice Guy" meme.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on September 24, 2013, 02:17:31 pm
All the posters on this link are great. (http://www.upworthy.com/6-overused-creepy-sentences-that-i-wish-always-had-these-surprise-endings?c=bl3)
Agreed.

Reminds me of the Ordinary Muslim Man (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ordinary-muslim-man) meme.

Come to think of it, we should start an "Actual Nice Guy" meme.
isn't that good guy greg
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on September 24, 2013, 02:35:21 pm
Good point Kefka.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on September 24, 2013, 03:16:33 pm
I guess it would be a more specific version of Good Guy Greg.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on September 24, 2013, 03:20:08 pm
http://myjihad.org/photo-gallery/our-bus-and-train-ads/
I love the weight loss one
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on September 24, 2013, 04:10:27 pm
I guess it would be a more specific version of Good Guy Greg.

I'm okay with that idea.

"Actually Nice Guy"

"I love you more than you can imagine; which is why I wish you the best with your new boyfriend."

"You're getting married?; Need someone to help plan your wedding?"

"You just want to be friends?; Alright, I can accept that."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on September 24, 2013, 11:08:48 pm
"Wanna fuck?  No?  Okay, that's cool."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: wrightway on September 25, 2013, 07:36:47 pm
(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/1240176_695569570471635_855482780_n.jpg)
(https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/q71/1157657_728900140469969_1128599205_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: wrightway on September 28, 2013, 04:58:56 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/b802b15e0316e29e42b66c3bb239a177/tumblr_mrnamq0L2S1st5dbvo1_1280.gif)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kit Walker on September 29, 2013, 12:29:36 am
I question that map's veracity, since several conservatively theocratic Muslim nations are on there and I question how much of an issue this would really be there. I mean, it's not really accurate to say they have paid leave for mothers if other factors keep women almost entirely out of the workforce. Really easy to guarantee money for something that's not gonna happen.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 29, 2013, 05:23:52 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/900d98dba804c873e50700ae6b11a531/tumblr_mqbfvtd6YH1rvble7o3_500.png)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/21abb3b032be4f8e6eb933ae08cf00e1/tumblr_mqbfvtd6YH1rvble7o1_1280.png)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/2b61a01754262fe19a5e61bb70220f0f/tumblr_mqbfvtd6YH1rvble7o2_500.png)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/94d3f601786aa558f157bb3d1abc22a2/tumblr_mqbfvtd6YH1rvble7o4_500.png)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/2cd7c2d4973612fab21b52e6ebf5617a/tumblr_mqbfvtd6YH1rvble7o5_500.png)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/e3a3613b1f51209102e625d67893f7a5/tumblr_mqbfvtd6YH1rvble7o7_500.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on September 29, 2013, 09:37:24 pm
I question that map's veracity, since several conservatively theocratic Muslim nations are on there and I question how much of an issue this would really be there. I mean, it's not really accurate to say they have paid leave for mothers if other factors keep women almost entirely out of the workforce. Really easy to guarantee money for something that's not gonna happen.

UAE (moderate monarchy/federal democratic hybrid govt);
http://www.emirates247.com/news/maternity-leave-in-uae-which-employers-offer-working-mothers-maximum-days-off-2013-01-23-1.492143 (http://www.emirates247.com/news/maternity-leave-in-uae-which-employers-offer-working-mothers-maximum-days-off-2013-01-23-1.492143)

Iran (conservative federal democratic /Islamic clerical fiat govt);
http://raihaneh.com/news/3266/Maternity-Leave-Is-Extended-to-9-Months-in-Iran (http://raihaneh.com/news/3266/Maternity-Leave-Is-Extended-to-9-Months-in-Iran)

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on September 30, 2013, 12:17:23 am
Holy shit.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Id82 on September 30, 2013, 11:12:44 am
It's good to know that we treat our women as well as Liberia and Papua new guinea.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on September 30, 2013, 02:42:05 pm
It really underscores the disconnect between "pro life" conservatives' attitude to fetuses versus born babies. "You must have our shit cake, and eat it, too.

In defense of Liberia ...they are a very poor nation with no meaningful govt budget, and no clout to pressure what either foreign corporations or local employers do. The effective unemployment rate in Liberia is roughly half the able bodied adult population. Papua New Guinea is in much better shape, but still struggling on all levels of development, and very much in the stage of placating the foreign corporations that are behind some of the development occurring there recently.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Id82 on September 30, 2013, 03:13:36 pm
Thus my point that we treat our women as well as poorly developed countries.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on September 30, 2013, 05:20:10 pm
I should have continued my post; in light of our ability to do much more, we treat our women much worse than Liberia or Papua New Guinea. If either those two countries could afford/were able, they would no doubt offer paid maternity.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on September 30, 2013, 09:43:18 pm
I thought Liberia effectively had no government other than the UN peacekeepers that are there to stop the civil war from breaking out again. I could of sworn the country was still in a state of almost total anarchy.

From what I've seen it looks like you see a more effective government and law enforcement, and general civilization in the post-apocalyptic wasteland of the Fallout games.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on October 04, 2013, 01:49:29 pm
(click to show/hide)

1988 National Coming Out Day Poster

(Left to Right, Top)James Baldwin, Willa Cather, Errol Flynn, Michelangelo, Edna St. Vincent Millay

(Left to Right, Bottom) Cole Porter, Eleanor Roosevelt, Bessie Smith, Walt Whitman, Virginia Woolf
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Meshakhad on October 08, 2013, 09:14:10 am
Let's also throw in Leonardo da Vinci and Julius Motherfucking Caesar. Da Vinci is widely speculated to have been gay, while Caesar was probably bi.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on October 08, 2013, 04:16:14 pm
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1380283_737695216257128_1541629590_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ghoti on October 08, 2013, 05:05:21 pm
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1380283_737695216257128_1541629590_n.jpg)
Wow, that's powerful. I wonder if Americans as a whole would be less attuned to the myth of American exceptionalism if history classes were taught like that.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 09, 2013, 01:41:24 pm
Let's also throw in Leonardo da Vinci and Julius Motherfucking Caesar. Da Vinci is widely speculated to have been gay, while Caesar was probably bi.

Not to mention Alan Turing, who practically gave us the modern computer and helped beat the Nazis.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Random Gal on October 09, 2013, 03:29:45 pm
Let's also throw in Leonardo da Vinci and Julius Motherfucking Caesar. Da Vinci is widely speculated to have been gay, while Caesar was probably bi.

Not to mention Alan Turing, who practically gave us the modern computer and helped beat the Nazis.

Alexander the Great was bi if not outright gay as well.

In fact, bisexuality was pretty much the norm in Greco-Roman society before the Church took over.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on October 09, 2013, 05:15:08 pm
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1380283_737695216257128_1541629590_n.jpg)
Wow, that's powerful. I wonder if Americans as a whole would be less attuned to the myth of American exceptionalism if history classes were taught like that.

While this is current, I want to bring up how every person in North and South America is descended from immigrants. This includes even the "natives". Remember, the "native" people of America only came here during the last ice age by crossing the land bridge. The only place humans can truly be native is Africa and maybe part of the Middle East.

Some people already know the US is made up mostly of immigrants, but almost everyone forgets that it's made entirely of immigrants when you go back far enough.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on October 09, 2013, 07:32:37 pm
Technically although in a sense latinos especially in Texas etc have more claim to the land then crackers
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 17, 2013, 08:54:13 am
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1380283_737695216257128_1541629590_n.jpg)
Wow, that's powerful. I wonder if Americans as a whole would be less attuned to the myth of American exceptionalism if history classes were taught like that.

While this is current, I want to bring up how every person in North and South America is descended from immigrants. This includes even the "natives". Remember, the "native" people of America only came here during the last ice age by crossing the land bridge. The only place humans can truly be native is Africa and maybe part of the Middle East.

Some people already know the US is made up mostly of immigrants, but almost everyone forgets that it's made entirely of immigrants when you go back far enough.

SEND THEM BACK ACROSS THE LAND BRIDGE!  EVERYONE, BACK TO AFRICA WHERE YA CAME FROM!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on October 19, 2013, 07:14:03 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/08aa5416c732ed34bf9d30ed5341c797/tumblr_mtwhaxa5ev1qcx7e9o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on November 01, 2013, 06:43:45 am
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u276/TossuSama/101385682_zpsfc3d6db1.jpg)

Translation:
Quote
There have always been gay people,

there are some right now,

and there shall always be.

So, deal with it
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on November 01, 2013, 11:55:44 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/44ae00cf0a57d01249f92906d9ea7047/tumblr_mvkr5yt6na1sm6ajco1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on November 01, 2013, 11:35:55 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/44ae00cf0a57d01249f92906d9ea7047/tumblr_mvkr5yt6na1sm6ajco1_500.jpg)

That, my friend, is the greatest thing I've seen all day! ;D
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on December 13, 2013, 02:00:59 am
RISE, THREAD, RISE!

(https://24.media.tumblr.com/d3cd9cc5f3e6b2d0177332e1d8d4c574/tumblr_mxo3jz5tja1s95cllo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheL on December 15, 2013, 08:00:59 pm
Yes!  Punish rapists in the name of the moon!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Alehksunos on December 15, 2013, 09:12:54 pm
RISE, THREAD, RISE!

(https://24.media.tumblr.com/d3cd9cc5f3e6b2d0177332e1d8d4c574/tumblr_mxo3jz5tja1s95cllo1_500.jpg)

lol people using their fandom for political gain.

I still like the message though, even though it's been said several times, only because those assholes won't get it into their thin heads. Good luck trying to reason with them.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on December 16, 2013, 08:30:24 pm
Yes!  Punish rapists in the name of the moon!

Imagine if we SENT them to the moon...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on December 16, 2013, 08:39:09 pm
Or sent the moon to them.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on December 16, 2013, 08:49:19 pm
Why would we want to waste a space program on rapists?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on December 16, 2013, 08:59:42 pm
I'm not having them anywhere near Moon Base.  We can use them to experiment on the deleterious effects of close solar proximity.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Random Gal on December 17, 2013, 04:07:00 am
Yeah, I'll go with "first manned mission to the sun" as well.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on December 17, 2013, 12:59:23 pm
Yeah, I'll go with "first manned mission to the sun" as well.

Love it! "GDIAF" CRANKED UP TO ELEVEN!!!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Meshakhad on December 17, 2013, 04:37:59 pm
I was thinking the first manned mission to Venus.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on December 17, 2013, 05:00:59 pm
I was thinking the first manned mission to Venus.

I like the way you think.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on December 18, 2013, 01:27:03 pm
Have some signs from the first gay pride parade in the United States in the year 1972.

(https://24.media.tumblr.com/d7161d5e645a3557a873b9ec82bc66d9/tumblr_mp8gx0eHNp1qc3nt1o3_500.jpg)
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/460ebc90d1fa599cd026394cee20cfab/tumblr_mp8gx0eHNp1qc3nt1o5_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: chad sexington on December 18, 2013, 04:55:26 pm
I thought the first Pride March was around 1970.  I know the first one in the UK was in '71, and that was inspired by the US one.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on December 18, 2013, 05:18:04 pm
Source said 1972. They could be wrong.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 07, 2014, 10:55:29 am
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/599/607/dcf.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Katsuro on January 07, 2014, 11:27:47 am
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/599/607/dcf.jpg)

Regarding people who maintain violent games make people violent - how do they reconcile the fact that the violent crime rate across most of the western world has been in decline since 1992, yet the popularity of games has been increasing since before that date and games haven't been getting less violent?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: QueenofHearts on January 07, 2014, 12:39:51 pm
The first one should say "This doesn't make me a murderer" since Ray Lewis and Aaron Hernandez kind of, you know...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on January 07, 2014, 02:07:20 pm

Regarding people who maintain violent games make people violent - how do they reconcile the fact that the violent crime rate across most of the western world has been in decline since 1992, yet the popularity of games has been increasing since before that date and games haven't been getting less violent?

Confounding factors, probably. I.e.: "There are some factors driving violent crime down that happen simultaneously with the increase in violent videogames which hide the increase in violence they cause. If video games hadn't been there, crime would've gone down even more".

Note: I don't actually believe this, merely pointing out that it's the obvious argument.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 07, 2014, 02:16:26 pm
At that point, the response would have to be "Well, what is your evidence supporting this argument?"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on January 07, 2014, 02:30:38 pm
These same video game citers years ago held testimony in Congress where some idiot wank said kids were learning to become expert marksmen from playing FPS's....


Because physically mastering THIS thing below,

(http://i.imgur.com/hw4lOCU.jpg)

Totally trains you to use THIS other thing like a well-oiled killing machine! :o...

(http://i.imgur.com/Nc38Yhw.jpg)


Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on January 07, 2014, 03:10:03 pm
i learned how to load an ak playing CS, and i learned how to take care of a shotgun on the range. i might be able to shoot an ak but wouldn't know the first thing about maintaining it in shooting form. a shotgun, on the other hand, is safe with me.

oh, and don't even get me started on recoil, aiming and all of the rest of that fiddly business
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on January 07, 2014, 03:23:55 pm
Yeah, seeing accurate in-game animations of your character loading, aiming and firing a rifle do not prepare you for the real thing. A plastic game pad is not a rifle.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheL on January 07, 2014, 08:44:52 pm
It's like saying that I'm an expert archer just because I played Ocarina of Time.  With Z-targeting.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on January 07, 2014, 09:17:00 pm
Your words hurt us.

Ironbite-*gets out the whips*
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on January 07, 2014, 11:18:55 pm
Meanwhile at boot camp:

Drill Sergeant: Boy, you better learn how to 360 no-scope or your n00b ass is gonna be pwned!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Katsuro on January 08, 2014, 11:24:09 am

Regarding people who maintain violent games make people violent - how do they reconcile the fact that the violent crime rate across most of the western world has been in decline since 1992, yet the popularity of games has been increasing since before that date and games haven't been getting less violent?

Confounding factors, probably. I.e.: "There are some factors driving violent crime down that happen simultaneously with the increase in violent videogames which hide the increase in violence they cause. If video games hadn't been there, crime would've gone down even more".

Note: I don't actually believe this, merely pointing out that it's the obvious argument.

To that I'd say that the he drop has been described in some countries as a free fall, particualrly in the US.  It's hard to imagine how it could fall any faster than it is already.  In some parts of Europe the murder rate is less than 1 per 100,000, which is astonishing. So in some parts of the world it's also hard to imagine how the rate could drop any further.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on January 08, 2014, 01:21:25 pm
Meanwhile at boot camp:

Drill Sergeant: Boy, you better learn how to 360 no-scope or your n00b ass is gonna be pwned!

I did that once when I first started playing Splinter Cell years ago. I got Sam sneaking into the center of a dark warehouse full of idiot guards, then they all converged when one got too close, so I span Sam in a circle, spraying full auto from his SC (whatever the fuck his bullpup MP was called back then).
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Katsuro on January 08, 2014, 01:44:23 pm
Meanwhile at boot camp:

Drill Sergeant: Boy, you better learn how to 360 no-scope or your n00b ass is gonna be pwned!

I did that once when I first started playing Splinter Cell years ago. I got Sam sneaking into the center of a dark warehouse full of idiot guards, then they all converged when one got too close, so I span Sam in a circle, spraying full auto from his SC (whatever the fuck his bullpup MP was called back then).

Was it not an SMG?  Or is a MP and SMG kinda the same thing?  I know a lot of SGM's take pistol rounds.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on January 08, 2014, 02:03:45 pm
I found it. FN F2000, a bullpup assault rifle made in Belgium, renamed in the game as the SC 20K.

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/FN_F2000 (http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/FN_F2000)

So, it was not an MP, but maybe it's lowly hit power as the game had it was why I mis-remembered it being a machine pistol and not a rifle.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Katsuro on January 08, 2014, 02:09:39 pm
I found it. FN F2000, a bullpup assault rifle made in Belgium, renamed in the game as the SC 20K.

Ha, so we were both wrong lol.

I probably should have known it was an AR.  Bullpups generally are (don't know of any bullpup SMG's), as the whole point of bullpups is having a smaller weapon than an AR witout sacrificing the range or power of an AR.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 08, 2014, 02:15:05 pm
These same video game citers years ago held testimony in Congress where some idiot wank said kids were learning to become expert marksmen from playing FPS's....


Because physically mastering THIS thing below,

(http://i.imgur.com/hw4lOCU.jpg)

Totally trains you to use THIS other thing like a well-oiled killing machine! :o...

(http://i.imgur.com/Nc38Yhw.jpg)




While you are absolutely correct on that, research however does state that video games help your mental acuity. They teach you how to see things other people might not. In essence, FPS games train you in hand-eye coordination as well as being able to pick your target out of a forest, as it were. I and a handful of my friends who play a lot of FPS games and then gone to the range have done better. If I had played video games within a week of going to the range, my accuracy was a lot better than if I had neglected to play my video games recently. That is not to say that it actually trains you how to handle the weapons. I already knew how to handle my pistol and rifle before hand. It was just my accuracy that got better. There is a reason that the US military has contracted various gaming developers to develop video games for training new troops as well as entice them to join up.

Playing puzzle games can work out the logic part of your brain. Tetris is linked to helping those with PTSD and depression.

Research has also shown that surgeons who played video games for x amount of time a month did better in the operating room than those surgeons who didn't play video games.

With all that said, we must continue to remember that correlation does not equal causation. It's just in this case there's a lot of correlation that becomes difficult to ignore.

I'm done with my useless knowledge, now.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 08, 2014, 07:57:34 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/015a169ff5f2562bc30f86beeb619686/tumblr_mp916b6neG1qzvjb1o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 09, 2014, 02:11:49 am
Also I point out to reiterate that most FPS with the exception of maybe CS or Arma or Americas Army the guns are not realistic since for most gamers that would be frustrating
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on January 09, 2014, 02:18:58 pm
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1546260_735614946451048_1815024127_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 09, 2014, 03:38:50 pm
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1546260_735614946451048_1815024127_n.jpg)
Gonna have to disagree with you on that.  In my opinion, abortion is, at best, a necessary evil.  However, I'm no fundie.  You're entitled to your opinion, and while I may disagree with it, I won't belittle you for having it.  I only ask that you do the same for me.

Oh, and by the way, I think it'd be better if next time you shrunk a picture so it'd fit better.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on January 09, 2014, 03:41:43 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/015a169ff5f2562bc30f86beeb619686/tumblr_mp916b6neG1qzvjb1o1_500.jpg)

"...but it does grow on bigger trees. Want lemons the size of footballs? Support our GM crop research."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 09, 2014, 03:44:20 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/015a169ff5f2562bc30f86beeb619686/tumblr_mp916b6neG1qzvjb1o1_500.jpg)

"...but it does grow on bigger trees. Want lemons the size of footballs? Support our GM crop research."
*snickers*
Okay, that was pretty funny.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on January 09, 2014, 11:30:56 pm
*SNIP*

The brain getting trained to pick up motion better doesn't require the game be an FPS, or even have remotely human shaped objects.

A semi-related fact, the human eye naturally picks up on motion much more than colors. So if you're hiding in the woods, being still is more important than having high-tech HD camouflage. Vaguely related to that is the note that the reason deer hunters can wear those high visability orange vests and hats is because a deer's eye don't pick up the orange, but human eyes do.

Also I point out to reiterate that most FPS with the exception of maybe CS or Arma or Americas Army the guns are not realistic since for most gamers that would be frustrating

Ugh, I played the demo for an AA game once on the Xbox. It sucked so hard.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 10, 2014, 05:32:49 am
I never said only FPS games. I was going along with the example provided. You could say the same thing about how making your character walk quieter doesn't always help in the fact that there is natural sound in the forest. So snapping a twig then suddenly stopping draws more attention than if you kept on walking like a deer would.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 10, 2014, 08:44:14 am
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/676/551/f72.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on January 10, 2014, 03:15:21 pm
... I want that on a shirt.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on January 10, 2014, 04:11:26 pm
We're all spooky skellingtons on the inside.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: QueenofHearts on January 10, 2014, 05:41:26 pm
We're all spooky skellingtons on the inside.

I think they should just have two skeletons next to each other with the captions underneath

"Educated" and "eats his poo"
"Who are we to judge?"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 10, 2014, 09:33:30 pm
Considering I'm male, I'm none of those skeletons as they all appear to be female.  I'm different!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 10, 2014, 10:25:06 pm
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/542/194/68f.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on January 10, 2014, 10:40:31 pm
wait wait wait... he was told 'die cis scum' for asking what the different terms meant? okay, that's a militant shitbag, right there.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 10, 2014, 10:42:22 pm
wait wait wait... he was told 'die cis scum' for asking what the different terms meant? okay, that's a militant shitbag, right there.
Yup.

On a similar note:

(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/542/198/ca0.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on January 10, 2014, 10:57:12 pm
So what DOES it mean?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 10, 2014, 10:58:44 pm
So what DOES it mean?
Well, imagine if MLK went around saying "die, white scum".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on January 10, 2014, 11:00:09 pm
No, I mean what does cis mean? I've only ever heard that term online and can't find a definition anywhere; it seems to be one of those words that everyone else assumes everyone knows.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 10, 2014, 11:04:42 pm
No, I mean what does cis mean? I've only ever heard that term online and can't find a definition anywhere; it seems to be one of those words that everyone else assumes everyone knows.
Basically, it means when somebody's gender identity matches their biological sex.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on January 10, 2014, 11:18:39 pm
No, I mean what does cis mean? I've only ever heard that term online and can't find a definition anywhere; it seems to be one of those words that everyone else assumes everyone knows.

In general, taken as prefixes, cis- is the opposite of trans- (in chemistry, for example, you have cis-trans isomerism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cis%E2%80%93trans_isomerism)). In this particular context, cis is short for cisgender, which as UP says above means someone who is not transgender.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 11, 2014, 02:29:05 am
I will say that the whole 'die cis scum' thing is more of a defensive, empowering type of thing rather than an actual call to, well, kill cis scum. YMMV on whether it's actually an empowering thing. None of the transfolk I interact with use it unironically or seriously.

Cisgender is to transgender as heterosexual is to homosexual.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kain on January 11, 2014, 04:34:55 am
ITT: Ultimate Paragon whinges about his feelings being hurt over a minority within a minority venting their frustration.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on January 11, 2014, 09:03:03 am
No, I mean what does cis mean? I've only ever heard that term online and can't find a definition anywhere; it seems to be one of those words that everyone else assumes everyone knows.

In general, taken as prefixes, cis- is the opposite of trans- (in chemistry, for example, you have cis-trans isomerism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cis%E2%80%93trans_isomerism)). In this particular context, cis is short for cisgender, which as UP says above means someone who is not transgender.

Thanks for that link. I knew what cis meant, but I had no idea what the origin of the word was, and wrongly assumed it was some kind of acronym.

Just in case anyone else is as ignorant as I am: The terms cis is from Latin and means "on the same side".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dakota Bob on January 11, 2014, 09:32:47 am
I'm pretty sure the only people who say "die cis scum" unironically are the 2edgy4me slacktivist tumblrites.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 11, 2014, 12:00:51 pm
ITT: Ultimate Paragon whinges about his feelings being hurt over a minority within a minority venting their frustration.
I wouldn't normally be so upset, except for the fact that they're venting it so poorly.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on January 11, 2014, 12:10:52 pm
ITT: Ultimate Paragon whinges about his feelings being hurt over a minority within a minority venting their frustration.
I wouldn't normally be so upset, except for the fact that they're venting it so poorly.
Perhaps you could offer some suggestions for new, creative venting terms for these folks? It seems kind of pointless to worry about the use of a ranty derogatory term by possible trolls and emotionally disturbed individuals. I don't like DIAF, either, because it gets used too often by overly high-strung people. And not many people, at all or ever, deserve to die a horribly painful and terrifying death, for that matter. But it's a waste of time to complain about the use of the term by it's users.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 11, 2014, 07:31:16 pm
ITT: Ultimate Paragon whinges about his feelings being hurt over a minority within a minority venting their frustration.
I wouldn't normally be so upset, except for the fact that they're venting it so poorly.
Perhaps you could offer some suggestions for new, creative venting terms for these folks? It seems kind of pointless to worry about the use of a ranty derogatory term by possible trolls and emotionally disturbed individuals. I don't like DIAF, either, because it gets used too often by overly high-strung people. And not many people, at all or ever, deserve to die a horribly painful and terrifying death, for that matter. But it's a waste of time to complain about the use of the term by it's users.
The problem is that trans people are a tiny and frequently misunderstood minority.  All this will do is feed transphobia, much like how the Black Power movement fed racism.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: QueenofHearts on January 11, 2014, 08:29:30 pm
The problem is that trans people are a tiny and frequently misunderstood minority.  All this will do is feed transphobia, much like how the Black Power movement fed racism.

So, we're putting the onus on the minority to win the majority over, instead of on the majority to stop being dicks... Nothing wrong there. Fact is, social movements generally have both "peaceful hippy" types and "in your face" types. The former is good for changing minds of the majority, while the latter is good for unifying the group to change their lot in life.

Second, the only harm from "Die cis scum" is hurt cis feelings. Really, that's it. So, I'm not gonna go around telling people not to say it. As it stands, the total body count, in the history of ever, from cisphobia is 0. So, I think it's silly, if not bigoted, that people (read: cis-people) decide to get more worked up over "die cis scum" than Char's experiences which lead Char to start saying it. Getting worked up over such a silly phrase literally says "our cis-feelings are more important than your self-esteem."

And this is coming from the girl who doesn't say it because it's just not my style.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 11, 2014, 09:15:40 pm
Basically trans safety and happiness>cis feelings
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 11, 2014, 09:47:56 pm
Okay, that's your opinion.  I'm not saying it's wrong, or that you're a lesser person for having.  However, I strongly disagree with it.  I value diversity of opinion, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with every opinion somebody says.  I don't hate any of you, but I just need to get one of my opinions off my chest.  It's not a personal attack against any of you, it's just something that I think I need to say.

Given the hyper-defensive nature of some of those who stand by the phrase “die cis scum”, I’m going to have to attempt to explain why I think it’s one of the most disastrous slogans in LGBT history.

Even if every cis person understood what “cis” meant in the first place (I didn’t until very recently), they’re probably going to be offended by it. Some say “Oh but this is directed at the scum so if you’re offended you’re cis scum DIE.” However, there’s a reason for this.

Let’s take the phrase “Die cis scum”.  Those who use it frequently say that the word “scum” indicates cissexists (that is, cis people who discriminate, sometimes violently, against transsexuals).  In their minds, the phrase ought to be interpreted as “Death to cissexist oppressors!”

However, most people reading it won’t read it that way.  They will simply see the word ‘scum’ as an intensifier – a word that increases the meaning of something – and will be offended, regardless of their stance or actions towards transsexual people. I’m all for LGBT rights, and the phrase still bugs the crap outta me.  In their minds, it will be rendered as “Death to cis people!”

To put it briefly, users of “Die Cis Scum” attempt to target cissexists, but they inadvertently offend the entire cissexual population.  The vast majority of cissexuals are perfectly decent people, just like with any other group.
 
And another thing: many gays, lesbians, and bisexuals are cis, too…doesn’t this phrase also, by extension, put its users at odds with people who ought to be their strongest allies?  Why would they want to alienate homosexual and bisexual people who would otherwise fully support their cause?

If I offended anybody with this, I sincerely apologize.  This wasn't meant as an attack on you.
 
Are there any questions?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Auri-El on January 11, 2014, 10:00:19 pm
I have a question.

I notice you say "cis person" and "cis people," but then you say "transsexuals" and "gays, lesbians and bisexuals." That offends me. Why can't you say "transsexual people," and "gay/lesbian and bisexual people?" It bugs me and you should stop. Because we totally have the right to be offended by what other people say, even if they didn't mean anything by it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 11, 2014, 10:02:31 pm
I have a question.

I notice you say "cis person" and "cis people," but then you say "transsexuals" and "gays, lesbians and bisexuals." That offends me. Why can't you say "transsexual people," and "gay/lesbian and bisexual people?" It bugs me and you should stop. Because we totally have the right to be offended by what other people say, even if they didn't mean anything by it.
Okay then, I'll fix it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Auri-El on January 11, 2014, 10:06:57 pm
Don't.

I was using sarcasm to make a point, and clearly failed.
My point was, while words do have meaning, people do not have the right not to be offended. If cisgender people are aware of the hatred and discrimination transgender people face, then they will understand why transgender people are angry. If they are not aware, they should be educated, not attacked. For that reason, there are instances when "die cis scum" is a horrible thing to say. But I want to clarify that it's not always the case. And finally, if cisgender people are the source of the hatred transgender people face, then "die cis scum" is not a bad thing to say, as long as it's not meant literally, which it rarely is, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 11, 2014, 10:18:09 pm
Don't.

I was using sarcasm to make a point, and clearly failed.
My point was, while words do have meaning, people do not have the right not to be offended. If cisgender people are aware of the hatred and discrimination transgender people face, then they will understand why transgender people are angry. If they are not aware, they should be educated, not attacked. For that reason, there are instances when "die cis scum" is a horrible thing to say. But I want to clarify that it's not always the case. And finally, if cisgender people are the source of the hatred transgender people face, then "die cis scum" is not a bad thing to say, as long as it's not meant literally, which it rarely is, I'm sure.
Let me refute your points.

1. It's difficult to tell whether somebody's being sarcastic through writing.

2. The "you don't have the right to not be offended" seems like a terrible slippery slope to me.  Imagine if some jackass set up a burning cross in a black person's yard, and repeated that line when confronted on it.

3. Transgender people have every right to be angry at their oppression.  However, they do not have the right to incite people to violence, which I think this might qualify as.

4. I'm sure there's a better phrase they could use.  "Die, cissexist opressors", maybe.

5. White people have been the source of racism against black people, but the Selma movement didn't go around saying "kill whitey".  Straight people have been the source of homophobia, but the Stonewall rioters didn't shout about killing heterosexuals.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 11, 2014, 10:28:32 pm
Because we totally have the right to be offended by what other people say, even if they didn't mean anything by it.

TBH, this is a fairly good indication of sarcasm being tangible online, as that's not a statement people would normally say straight.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Auri-El on January 11, 2014, 10:29:01 pm
1. Sorry, I thought this: "Because we totally have the right to be offended by what other people say, even if they didn't mean anything by it" made it rather obvious.
2. True, I guess I should have said, people don't have the right not to be offended by what other people say, especially when it's a complete stranger. Granted, words do have power, but- well, for example, having my parents tell me I'm going to hell for being queer is a helluva lot more hurtful than when a stranger says it, but I have no right to ask either my parents or the stranger to not say it just because it's offensive and hurtful. At the end of the day, they're just words.
3. No, it's not inciting violence, any more saying "fuck you" is an actual invitation.
4. Maybe. You can use that phrase, if you'd prefer.
5. I don't know enough about those scenarios to say anything, and I'm not interested enough to go look them up right now. Maybe later, if I get bored.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 11, 2014, 10:30:17 pm
1. Sorry, I thought this: "Because we totally have the right to be offended by what other people say, even if they didn't mean anything by it" made it rather obvious.
2. True, I guess I should have said, people don't have the right not to be offended by what other people say, especially when it's a complete stranger. Granted, words do have power, but- well, for example, having my parents tell me I'm going to hell for being queer is a helluva lot more hurtful than when a stranger says it, but I have no right to ask either my parents or the stranger to not say it just because it's offensive and hurtful. At the end of the day, they're just words.
3. No, it's not inciting violence, any more saying "fuck you" is an actual invitation.
4. Maybe. You can use that phrase, if you'd prefer.
5. I don't know enough about those scenarios to say anything, and I'm not interested enough to go look them up right now. Maybe later, if I get bored.
Okay.  Apology accepted, and I see your point.  I don't agree with it, but I understand why you have it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: QueenofHearts on January 11, 2014, 10:48:09 pm
5. White people have been the source of racism against black people, but the Selma movement didn't go around saying "kill whitey".  Straight people have been the source of homophobia, but the Stonewall rioters didn't shout about killing heterosexuals.

Your views of history are rather glossy. First, I've said before, movements need both peaceful and in your face types. The Civil Rights movement also had it's fair amount of "in your face types": Malcolm X, The Nation of Islam, The Black Panthers. Just because they aren't glorified by history to the extent Dr. King is doesn't mean they weren't influential to the ultimate end, civil rights.

Second, trannies were literally the people who started the stonewall riots. The only way in those days New York allowed homosexuality to be proven (a criminal offense at the time) was to be caught in the act or caught "cross-dressing." And they were fucking riots. It wasn't sitting peacefully singing kumbaya, patrons literally fought with the police and threw rocks, beer bottles, and bricks at police. It got so bad, police hid behind bystanders and hid where they could. Garbage was lit on fire. Police tried to use a fire hose against the cried, but being inept as the NYPD so often is, they failed. Someone very easily could have died that night.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 11, 2014, 11:08:14 pm
5. White people have been the source of racism against black people, but the Selma movement didn't go around saying "kill whitey".  Straight people have been the source of homophobia, but the Stonewall rioters didn't shout about killing heterosexuals.

Your views of history are rather glossy. First, I've said before, movements need both peaceful and in your face types. The Civil Rights movement also had it's fair amount of "in your face types": Malcolm X, The Nation of Islam, The Black Panthers. Just because they aren't glorified by history to the extent Dr. King is doesn't mean they weren't influential to the ultimate end, civil rights.

Second, trannies were literally the people who started the stonewall riots. The only way in those days New York allowed homosexuality to be proven (a criminal offense at the time) was to be caught in the act or caught "cross-dressing." And they were fucking riots. It wasn't sitting peacefully singing kumbaya, patrons literally fought with the police and threw rocks, beer bottles, and bricks at police. It got so bad, police hid behind bystanders and hid where they could. Garbage was lit on fire. Police tried to use a fire hose against the cried, but being inept as the NYPD so often is, they failed. Someone very easily could have died that night.
1. That's why I said the Selma Movement, specifically.  The "in your face types" did have an impact on civil rights: namely, in setting it back.  Granted, Malcolm X got better after his Hajj, but he ended up getting shot for it.

2. Okay, maybe the Stonewall riots were a bad example.  However, the fact remains that they didn't go around shouting "die, straight scum".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 12, 2014, 11:39:51 am
Okay, that's your opinion.  I'm not saying it's wrong, or that you're a lesser person for having.  However, I strongly disagree with it.  I value diversity of opinion, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with every opinion somebody says.  I don't hate any of you, but I just need to get one of my opinions off my chest.  It's not a personal attack against any of you, it's just something that I think I need to say.

Given the hyper-defensive nature of some of those who stand by the phrase “die cis scum”, I’m going to have to attempt to explain why I think it’s one of the most disastrous slogans in LGBT history.

Even if every cis person understood what “cis” meant in the first place (I didn’t until very recently), they’re probably going to be offended by it. Some say “Oh but this is directed at the scum so if you’re offended you’re cis scum DIE.” However, there’s a reason for this.

Let’s take the phrase “Die cis scum”.  Those who use it frequently say that the word “scum” indicates cissexists (that is, cis people who discriminate, sometimes violently, against transsexuals).  In their minds, the phrase ought to be interpreted as “Death to cissexist oppressors!”

However, most people reading it won’t read it that way.  They will simply see the word ‘scum’ as an intensifier – a word that increases the meaning of something – and will be offended, regardless of their stance or actions towards transsexual people. I’m all for LGBT rights, and the phrase still bugs the crap outta me.  In their minds, it will be rendered as “Death to cis people!”

To put it briefly, users of “Die Cis Scum” attempt to target cissexists, but they inadvertently offend the entire cissexual population.  The vast majority of cissexuals are perfectly decent people, just like with any other group.
 
And another thing: many gays, lesbians, and bisexuals are cis, too…doesn’t this phrase also, by extension, put its users at odds with people who ought to be their strongest allies?  Why would they want to alienate homosexual and bisexual people who would otherwise fully support their cause?

If I offended anybody with this, I sincerely apologize.  This wasn't meant as an attack on you.
 
Are there any questions?

Since 1) it was decided to have this kind of conversation in two threads and 2) I don't want to sit here and retype everything my entire argument for this can be found here (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=20.msg214715#msg214715)

In short, your argument falls flat. The people being alienated are the people who aren't helping to begin with.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 12, 2014, 12:48:51 pm
Honestly, I see little difference between "die cis scum" and "hang blacks."  Venting is all well and good, but the line stops where you start calling for the death of an entire people.  Just because a black man stole your television, or a cissexual shopkeep refused you business doesn't mean you get to go around spewing hate speech without repercussion.  There's a vast difference between being an "in your face" activist and being a hatemonger.  If you go around regularly saying "die cis scum" unironically, then you're as much a hatemonger as the Grand Wizard of the KKK.  I'll defend to the death your right to say it, but I reserve the right to think of you as little better than your oppressors and call you an asshole as a result.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: LeTipex on January 12, 2014, 05:26:01 pm
Honestly, I see little difference between "die cis scum" and "hang blacks."  Venting is all well and good, but the line stops where you start calling for the death of an entire people.  Just because a black man stole your television, or a cissexual shopkeep refused you business doesn't mean you get to go around spewing hate speech without repercussion.  There's a vast difference between being an "in your face" activist and being a hatemonger.  If you go around regularly saying "die cis scum" unironically, then you're as much a hatemonger as the Grand Wizard of the KKK.  I'll defend to the death your right to say it, but I reserve the right to think of you as little better than your oppressors and call you an asshole as a result.
Pretty much this.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on January 12, 2014, 07:43:10 pm
^This and ^^That.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on January 12, 2014, 10:55:10 pm
Honestly, I see little difference between "die cis scum" and "hang blacks."

I can see at least one huge difference. The number of cis people killed for being cis is negligible (possibly zero), whereas the number of black people killed for being black is not.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ghoti on January 13, 2014, 12:16:21 am
^This. The reason I'm not bothered by "die cis scum" is because no one (or almost no one) has any intent of killing people they deem "cis scum". Somobe who says "die trannies" is much more likely to have genuine malicious intent behind his/her statement, because s/he is operating from a position of power. If a cis person murders a trans person (especially a trans woman, it seems), they are much more likely to be considered "justified" than the opposite. Throw in what Sigma said, and it becomes increasingly clear that the people who get the most bent out of shape about "die cis scum" are the most likely to be cis scum. Before anyone gets the torches and pitchforks, let me clarify that most cis people are not cis scum. It's absolutely possible to be cis and benefit from cis privilege without being cis scum, just like it's absolutely possible to be white and benefit from white privilege without being racist. People who are simply curious/insensitive/uneducated are usually not cis scum, while people like the Cathy Brennan and the majority of the GOP are.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: LeTipex on January 13, 2014, 09:47:21 am
Honestly, I see little difference between "die cis scum" and "hang blacks."

I can see at least one huge difference. The number of cis people killed for being cis is negligible (possibly zero), whereas the number of black people killed for being black is not.
So "die cis scum" is closer to "kill whitey" than to "hang blacks". Sorry, doesn't make it better in my ear.

^This. The reason I'm not bothered by "die cis scum" is because no one (or almost no one) has any intent of killing people they deem "cis scum". Somobe who says "die trannies" is much more likely to have genuine malicious intent behind his/her statement, because s/he is operating from a position of power.
Are you really saying "having privilege makes you more likely to want to kill others"? Because that's what I'm reading here.
If a cis person murders a trans person (especially a trans woman, it seems), they are much more likely to be considered "justified" than the opposite.
That has nothing to do with the fact that the phrase "die cis scum" is horrible and inappropriate.
Throw in what Sigma said, and it becomes increasingly clear that the people who get the most bent out of shape about "die cis scum" are the most likely to be cis scum.
So, to respond the same way I responded to Sigma up there : a white guy offended at a black guy saying "kill whitey" must be a racist? Or at least, according to your own reasonning, white scum?
Before anyone gets the torches and pitchforks, let me clarify that most cis people are not cis scum. It's absolutely possible to be cis and benefit from cis privilege without being cis scum, just like it's absolutely possible to be white and benefit from white privilege without being racist. People who are simply curious/insensitive/uneducated are usually not cis scum, while people like the Cathy Brennan and the majority of the GOP are.
I kinda agree with that last part.

And that being said, I'm bowing out of this discussion.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on January 13, 2014, 10:26:03 am
Honestly, I see little difference between "die cis scum" and "hang blacks."

I can see at least one huge difference. The number of cis people killed for being cis is negligible (possibly zero), whereas the number of black people killed for being black is not.
So "die cis scum" is closer to "kill whitey" than to "hang blacks". Sorry, doesn't make it better in my ear.

It does in mine*. "Hang blacks" or "die trannies" or "kill faggots" are things people have actually done and felt justified in doing because of a prevailing culture of hatred against the relevant group. They are not empty threats.

A cis person hearing "die cis scum" can feel disgust, or offence, or find it in poor taste, but they have no genuine reason to fear for their lives, or for that matter any repercussion more serious that having an unpleasant conversation.


*With the clarification that "better" does not mean "good". You don't have to like the phrase "die cis scum" to think the comparison to "hang blacks" et al. is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: solar. on January 13, 2014, 11:25:54 am
I've said things like "I hate straight people" when I'm feeling depressed because of homophobia, but I don't actually hate all straight people. I imagine "die cis scum" is the same thing. Nobody is actually calling for all cis people to die.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 13, 2014, 11:38:31 am
I say I hate cis people a lot but I dont mean it just i feel mad sometimes when I hear stories
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on January 13, 2014, 01:25:16 pm
Having witnessed a transwoman friend go through some extreme, but unfortunately recurrent, bad experiences at the hands and mouths of ignorant cis people, I have complete sympathy for a trans* person who has gone through the same hell, day in and day out, all their lives. When you not only feel like you are struggling to survive in a sea full of assholes and bullies - but fucking well actually are - it's easy to understand that ya gotta vent now and then. Is it a polite term? Does it make people stop and think about changing their hateful attitudes? No. But so what....Cis people don't have to deal with this particular kind of shit. This kind of shit gets condoned or passively whitewashed by an awful lot of people who witness it, because they feel the same way, or just don't care enough to get involved. And so trans* people get insulted, discriminated against, harassed, beaten and killed every day. No wonder some scream "Die cis scum" online or IRL. If you as a cis person actually are more than maybe just a little annoyed by the term, you have some serious issues in re the lack of spinal resilience. It smacks of a "White Whine" reaction.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 13, 2014, 02:32:07 pm
I say I hate cis people a lot but I dont mean it just i feel mad sometimes when I hear stories
If you don't mean it, don't say it.

Having witnessed a transwoman friend go through some extreme, but unfortunately recurrent, bad experiences at the hands and mouths of ignorant cis people, I have complete sympathy for a trans* person who has gone through the same hell, day in and day out, all their lives. When you not only feel like you are struggling to survive in a sea full of assholes and bullies - but fucking well actually are - it's easy to understand that ya gotta vent now and then. Is it a polite term? Does it make people stop and think about changing their hateful attitudes? No. But so what....Cis people don't have to deal with this particular kind of shit. This kind of shit gets condoned or passively whitewashed by an awful lot of people who witness it, because they feel the same way, or just don't care enough to get involved. And so trans* people get insulted, discriminated against, harassed, beaten and killed every day. No wonder some scream "Die cis scum" online or IRL. If you as a cis person actually are more than maybe just a little annoyed by the term, you have some serious issues in re the lack of spinal resilience. It smacks of a "White Whine" reaction.

I feel for your friend.  However, while saying that may be a form of catharsis, it's not helping trans rights.  Most cis people are not assholes, and saying that kind of shit only makes the people who say it look like shitheads.  Therein lies my point, this isn't really about cis people's feelings, it's more about trans people's image.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: solar. on January 13, 2014, 02:40:11 pm
Cis people have no right to talk about trans peoples' "image" when they are just as violent, if not even more so, than trans people.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on January 13, 2014, 02:42:43 pm
Ultimate Paragon, your snide comment to kefkaownsall is about to result in you being virtually curb-stomped by this entire forum.

Just a friendly warning, there, and to remind you that all kinds of people post here, some with disabilities, whether neural or physical, and that may affect their ability to post perfectly typed and spelt posts.

Fuck you and your pseudo "Christian" paragonism, you snide little trolling shit...

ADDENDUM - since Ultimate Paragon has redacted/removed and apologized for what was originally a very insulting comment to kefka, my post earlier here will seem odd. Take my word for it, it was a bad and rude slap at kefka, hence my angry reaction.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 13, 2014, 02:44:18 pm
Cis people have no right to talk about trans peoples' "image" when they are just as violent, if not even more so, than trans people.

(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/677/561/dae.png)

You're really not helping your case, you know that?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 13, 2014, 02:44:47 pm
Ultimate Paragon, your snide comment to kefkaownsall is about to result in you being virtually curb-stomped by this entire forum.

Just a friendly warning, there, and to remind you that all kinds of people post here, some with disabilities, whether neural or physical, and that may affect there ability to post perfectly typed and spelt posts.

Fuck you and your pseudo "Christian" paragonism, you snide little trolling shit...
He's disabled?  I'm sorry, I didn't know.  If I did, I wouldn't have said that.  Comment retracted.

(http://www.getrichslowly.org/images/GRS/iStock_remorse.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: solar. on January 13, 2014, 02:46:29 pm
Cis people have no right to talk about trans peoples' "image" when they are just as violent, if not even more so, than trans people.

(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/677/561/dae.png)

You're really not helping your case, you know that?
To be honest, neither are you.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 13, 2014, 03:25:17 pm
Cis people have no right to talk about trans peoples' "image" when they are just as violent, if not even more so, than trans people.

(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/677/561/dae.png)

You're really not helping your case, you know that?
To be honest, neither are you.
How, exactly?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: solar. on January 13, 2014, 03:33:04 pm
Cis people have no right to talk about trans peoples' "image" when they are just as violent, if not even more so, than trans people.

(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/677/561/dae.png)

You're really not helping your case, you know that?
To be honest, neither are you.
How, exactly?
I'll let somebody more articulate than me handle this.

Basically you come off as arrogant to me, and I'm suspicious you're that Dynamic Dragon guy I'm reading about.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: QueenofHearts on January 13, 2014, 03:42:11 pm
I just want to chime in, "kill whitey."

That is all.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on January 13, 2014, 04:40:40 pm
Remember folks, if anyone has anything or anyone they want to vent about, Flame and Burn is but a click or two away.  It has sprinklers, firewalls, and a fire-retardant coating.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 13, 2014, 05:24:25 pm
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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 13, 2014, 06:18:08 pm
Well, after reading all the posts here, weighing the arguments on both sides, and generally ignoring the local "Can't argue their way out of a paper bag" guy(s), I have come to a conclusion.

"Die cis scum" is mostly harmless, and the few people who actually mean it are a minority of a minority.

The fact of the matter is, saying "All People Are Equal" is a bit of a feel good statement.  Fact is, people AREN'T equal right now.  Transgendered people, black people, and homo/bisexual people are murdered for being transgendered, black, and/or gay/bi.  The same cannot be said for cishet white people.

A venting statement towards an oppressive majority is nowhere the same weight as a venting statement towards an oppressed minority.  In other words, die cishet scum.

As far as Paragon goes... hmph.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 13, 2014, 06:22:30 pm
(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/8/2/9/232829_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 13, 2014, 06:29:35 pm
its less teh gmos and more the lack of labelling or monsanto suing people
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 13, 2014, 06:33:01 pm
its less teh gmos and more the lack of labelling or monsanto suing people
I know, but GMOs themselves aren't the problem.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: solar. on January 13, 2014, 06:38:53 pm
Well, after reading all the posts here, weighing the arguments on both sides, and generally ignoring the local "Can't argue their way out of a paper bag" guy(s), I have come to a conclusion.


Am I included in that group? I just don't feel like typing out an argument because a good 1/4 of the keys on my keyboard don't work, and I don't feel like stopping to click on the keys on an onscreen keyboard every five seconds, because each post of mine would take twice as long to make.

The reason I'm being so defensive is that I don't think I can argue my way out of a paper bag, despite my efforts,  and I'm afraid of being found out.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 13, 2014, 06:47:40 pm
Well, after reading all the posts here, weighing the arguments on both sides, and generally ignoring the local "Can't argue their way out of a paper bag" guy(s), I have come to a conclusion.


Am I included in that group? I just don't feel like typing out an argument because a good 1/4 of the keys on my keyboard don't work, and I don't feel like stopping to click on the keys on an onscreen keyboard every five seconds, because each post of mine would take twice as long to make.

No, you are not included in the group :P

I'm not even sure it's a "group", to be honest.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: solar. on January 13, 2014, 06:49:44 pm
Well, after reading all the posts here, weighing the arguments on both sides, and generally ignoring the local "Can't argue their way out of a paper bag" guy(s), I have come to a conclusion.


Am I included in that group? I just don't feel like typing out an argument because a good 1/4 of the keys on my keyboard don't work, and I don't feel like stopping to click on the keys on an onscreen keyboard every five seconds, because each post of mine would take twice as long to make.

No, you are not included in the group :P

I'm not even sure it's a "group", to be honest.

Okay, good :P
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 13, 2014, 08:01:04 pm
(http://americanhistory.si.edu/brown/history/6-legacy/images/equality-law-life-lg.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 13, 2014, 09:13:57 pm
My...equation was a tad skewed.  As has been pointed out, "die cis scum" is more equatable to "kill whitey."  Its still fucked up, indefensible, and bloody offensive.  Again, you're well within your rights to say that shit, but I'm well within my rights to call you a complete dickhead if you say it seriously, or try to seriously defend it.

Does it make me fear for my life?  No, of course not.  That, however, doesn't make it any less fucked right the hell up.  I hold everyone to a certain standard of basic conduct and simple human decency, from white men to black women, from homosexuals to transsexuals to every-fucking-thing between and outside.  If the cause of your saying that shit is the result of abuse, then...its still not okay, in my eyes, but its understandable.

Yes, I have white privilege, I have male privilege, but I have every right to an opinion and to say what's on my mind as the most underprivileged person in the world does.

That about wraps up my contribution to this particular derail.  If a thread for this is created...I might post there, then again, I might just link here and be done with it.  I do so hate having to explain myself more than a couple of times.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 13, 2014, 10:12:33 pm
My...equation was a tad skewed.  As has been pointed out, "die cis scum" is more equatable to "kill whitey."  Its still fucked up, indefensible, and bloody offensive.  Again, you're well within your rights to say that shit, but I'm well within my rights to call you a complete dickhead if you say it seriously, or try to seriously defend it.

Does it make me fear for my life?  No, of course not.  That, however, doesn't make it any less fucked right the hell up.  I hold everyone to a certain standard of basic conduct and simple human decency, from white men to black women, from homosexuals to transsexuals to every-fucking-thing between and outside.  If the cause of your saying that shit is the result of abuse, then...its still not okay, in my eyes, but its understandable.

Yes, I have white privilege, I have male privilege, but I have every right to an opinion and to say what's on my mind as the most underprivileged person in the world does.

That about wraps up my contribution to this particular derail.  If a thread for this is created...I might post there, then again, I might just link here and be done with it.  I do so hate having to explain myself more than a couple of times.
Let's continue this discussion in Flame and Burn.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on January 14, 2014, 11:25:37 pm
I think folks keep bringing up that "die cis scum" thing to troll & start a flame war.

TAKE IT TO FLAME & BURN, CHILDREN!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 16, 2014, 09:59:51 am
Sick of fake stories being used to justify bigotry?

(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/666/871/fe5.jpg)

So was whoever made this image.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on January 16, 2014, 10:17:27 am
Sick of fake stories being used to justify bigotry?

(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/666/871/fe5.jpg)

So was whoever made this image.

Even if it was a true story, it's hardly fair to blame all Muslims for the actions of one arsehole.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Canadian Mojo on January 16, 2014, 10:33:11 am
Sick of fake stories being used to justify bigotry?

(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/666/871/fe5.jpg)

So was whoever made this image.

Even if it was a true story, it's hardly fair to blame all Muslims for the actions of one arsehole.
Frankly that is an infinitely more legitimate reason to refuse service to somebody than most bigots have.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: booley on January 16, 2014, 12:29:21 pm
…..

Even if it was a true story, it's hardly fair to blame all Muslims for the actions of one arsehole.

Oddly bigots are not well known for their well reasoned arguments and dislike of logical fallacies.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 16, 2014, 02:46:52 pm
…..

Even if it was a true story, it's hardly fair to blame all Muslims for the actions of one arsehole.

Oddly bigots are not well known for their well reasoned arguments and dislike of logical fallacies.
Yeah, if bigots were capable of logical thinking, they wouldn't be bigots.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 18, 2014, 10:09:08 am
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mburucBsZQ1r7fp9bo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on January 18, 2014, 05:10:30 pm
I've seen similar signs to those before, but that picture looks photoshopped to me. The signs look too crisp and "sharp" for an actual photo.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 18, 2014, 06:36:27 pm
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/431/923/508.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 18, 2014, 06:42:33 pm
Wrong thread, mate.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 18, 2014, 06:58:46 pm
was that intended to make fun of the people who cheer when rape victims lash back at their rapists?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 18, 2014, 07:27:03 pm
Wrong thread, mate.
Oh hai, Social Justice Sally.

Quote
was that intended to make fun of the people who cheer when rape victims lash back at their rapists?
Why do you always assume the worst?  No, it's intended to make fun of overzealous SJWs.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 18, 2014, 07:34:38 pm
Wrong thread, mate.
Oh hai, Social Justice Sally.

Wrong thread for that too, mate.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on January 18, 2014, 07:40:56 pm
Paragon, this discussion was taken out of this thread and to a different thread once already for a reason. Posting the image here is one thing, but is you want to use it solely to antagonize people it belongs in the other thread. I agree with the picture, but if you want to trash talk, F&B is were it belongs.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 18, 2014, 07:42:04 pm
Paragon, this discussion was taken out of this thread and to a different thread once already for a reason. Posting the image here is one thing, but is you want to use it solely to antagonize people it belongs in the other thread. I agree with the picture, but if you want to trash talk, F&B is were it belongs.
I didn't want to antagonize anybody!  How was I supposed to know they'd react like this?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 19, 2014, 11:48:10 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbwo82cHgL1rp5jfvo1_400.jpg)
I'm pretty sure most Amerindians care more about generational poverty than some white guy hanging a dreamcatcher in his bedroom.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Damen on January 19, 2014, 11:51:04 am
A dream catcher that was made in China, no less. :P
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SpaceProg on January 19, 2014, 07:17:51 pm
I have a dream catcher that was made by real live Indians.   





In India.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Meshakhad on January 19, 2014, 10:40:24 pm
I have one that was made by dead Indians.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 20, 2014, 04:50:27 am
"Well my mum is 1/16th Cherokee!"

I'm kidding. Mostly. I have a couple dream catchers. One is from an reservation in North Dakota, I believe. (Coincidentally I was born in North Dakota)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/2ab395d6825387a8370fdb1d966ee7a6/tumblr_mlk9ejl6ra1qztglyo1_500.png)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/88069a2124495f667afec6208fc460d2/tumblr_mz3zdsa81R1snm6omo1_500.jpg)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/d3f41005a5a67bfafd5c14928a1a0859/tumblr_mz3zdsa81R1snm6omo2_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 20, 2014, 07:07:32 am
Now I am reminded of that scene from ARcher where Pam claims she's 1/64 Cherokee
A. You're not
B to Z no one cares
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 20, 2014, 10:34:30 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/2ab395d6825387a8370fdb1d966ee7a6/tumblr_mlk9ejl6ra1qztglyo1_500.png)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/88069a2124495f667afec6208fc460d2/tumblr_mz3zdsa81R1snm6omo1_500.jpg)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/d3f41005a5a67bfafd5c14928a1a0859/tumblr_mz3zdsa81R1snm6omo2_500.jpg)
These are doubly good because I don't think trans rights get enough attention from the media.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on January 20, 2014, 02:04:56 pm
Hell, I'm not sure there's even very good public awareness on what exactly being trans means.  I remember asking once here out of sheer curiosity, and I still think I'm a bit confused.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: wrightway on January 20, 2014, 02:14:51 pm
The quick and dirty explanation, as I've always understood it, is that trans means the genitalia you were born with does not match up to your perceived gender. A transman may have a vagina, but everything in his head tells him "I AM a guy, my body just got it wrong."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: wrightway on January 20, 2014, 02:25:04 pm
The quick and dirty explanation, as I've always understood it, is that trans means the genitalia you were born with does not match up to your perceived gender. A transman may have a vagina, but everything in his head tells him "I AM a guy, my body just got it wrong."

It doesn't necessarily have to be genitalia either, since many trans people don't actually go through with "bottom surgery."

That's why I added the last part. Lots of transmen will have vaginas for the rest of their lives, it doesn't mean they aren't men. And lots of transwomen will always have their penis, but it doesn't make them any less a woman.

Also, highlight.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 20, 2014, 04:04:48 pm
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQtnm9zggOtEToMJNhgnh36TyVEM_sKNvyq5vaVuUYSXAzsu58V)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on January 20, 2014, 04:16:24 pm
The quick and dirty explanation, as I've always understood it, is that trans means the genitalia you were born with does not match up to your perceived gender. A transman may have a vagina, but everything in his head tells him "I AM a guy, my body just got it wrong."

It doesn't necessarily have to be genitalia either, since many trans people don't actually go through with "bottom surgery."

That's why I added the last part. Lots of transmen will have vaginas for the rest of their lives, it doesn't mean they aren't men. And lots of transwomen will always have their penis, but it doesn't make them any less a woman.

Also, highlight.

Porn stars Buck Angel & Gia Darling come to mind.

(http://i42.tinypic.com/2im6pa8.jpg)(http://i42.tinypic.com/2a65abn.jpg)

He's got a "Lotus-Flower", she's got a "Meat & Two Veg".

Plenty of Transfolks don't get "changed down there".

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 20, 2014, 04:19:46 pm
And that's not even getting into the fact that gender isn't a binary...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 20, 2014, 04:31:57 pm
Buck Angel is fucking hot, I have to say.

And yes, I've seen the photos of him nude.  He's still hot, and I'd still do him.

I have [a dream catcher] that was made by dead Indians.

I had one that was mass produced in a factory somewhere.

I think it fell apart.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on January 20, 2014, 05:10:15 pm
The quick and dirty explanation, as I've always understood it, is that trans means the genitalia you were born with does not match up to your perceived gender. A transman may have a vagina, but everything in his head tells him "I AM a guy, my body just got it wrong."

It doesn't necessarily have to be genitalia either, since many trans people don't actually go through with "bottom surgery."

That's why I added the last part. Lots of transmen will have vaginas for the rest of their lives, it doesn't mean they aren't men. And lots of transwomen will always have their penis, but it doesn't make them any less a woman.

Also, highlight.

I guess a lot of my confusion comes from not really knowing any (at least, openly/as far as I know) trans people in person.  I mean, what does it mean practically?  I guess part of my confusion comes from blurred gender lines and gender roles.

About all I really seem to understand from my rather limited interaction with trans people is that it often seems to involve preferred physical appearance and preferred bathroom usage.  I'm not sure if there's something that's more basic that I'm not grasping.  Like I said though, I guess I have a hard time not viewing gender itself as a social construct with a blurred line separating things.

I suppose that what I'm saying is "the quick and dirty answer" only gives me a vague understanding.  Probably just my human brain trying to put some kind of concrete/solid characteristic to what being trans means.   Like I said though, even with a definition I feel like my understanding is poor.

To put it another way, could a trans person do something that makes them not "truly" trans?  If so, what?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 20, 2014, 05:47:24 pm
I have a lot of problems with Buck Angel but I complain enough about people I don't even know personally.

With that said, in the span of like a week I had three people on my dash being asked about their genitals. I just want to know what kind of person decides it's a good idea to ask about what's in someone else's pants like that.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Katsuro on January 20, 2014, 05:48:31 pm
I have a lot of problems with Buck Angel but I complain enough about people I don't even know personally.

With that said, in the span of like a week I had three people on my dash being asked about their genitals. I just want to know what kind of person decides it's a good idea to ask about what's in someone else's pants like that.

People who are very good friends lol?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 20, 2014, 06:00:17 pm
I have a lot of problems with Buck Angel but I complain enough about people I don't even know personally.

With that said, in the span of like a week I had three people on my dash being asked about their genitals. I just want to know what kind of person decides it's a good idea to ask about what's in someone else's pants like that.

People who are very good friends lol?

Pretty sure that kind of question happens in private then :P

And people who are very good friends generally don't do "Asks" on Tumblr.  That's more commonly done by following strangers on Tumblr.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 20, 2014, 06:08:29 pm
I wouldn't have been as annoyed if it was something being done in private. But this was public 'so do you have a cock or a vagina?' shit. Anonymously, at that.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Katsuro on January 20, 2014, 06:10:26 pm
Well The Master's question didn't specifiy who would think it's okay to ask such things in a public forum, it just asked who would think its okay to ask such things.  Although that would be implied by the preceeding text, but it was just meant to be a throw away joke, I wasn't expecting a critical analysis of it lol.

Edit: Just for clairty, the above is meant to be light hearted.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Auri-El on January 20, 2014, 07:30:34 pm
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQtnm9zggOtEToMJNhgnh36TyVEM_sKNvyq5vaVuUYSXAzsu58V)
How about a salad instead?

All joking aside, a woman shouldn't be expected to serve a man.

Not funny, dude.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 20, 2014, 07:42:57 pm
(http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1509442.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Indian%20protesters%20hold%20placards%20as%20they%20take%20part%20in%20a%20protest%20to%20mourn%20the%20death%20of%20a%20gang-raped%20student-1509442)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on January 21, 2014, 03:37:54 am
The quick and dirty explanation, as I've always understood it, is that trans means the genitalia you were born with does not match up to your perceived gender. A transman may have a vagina, but everything in his head tells him "I AM a guy, my body just got it wrong."

It doesn't necessarily have to be genitalia either, since many trans people don't actually go through with "bottom surgery."

That's why I added the last part. Lots of transmen will have vaginas for the rest of their lives, it doesn't mean they aren't men. And lots of transwomen will always have their penis, but it doesn't make them any less a woman.

Also, highlight.

I guess a lot of my confusion comes from not really knowing any (at least, openly/as far as I know) trans people in person.  I mean, what does it mean practically?  I guess part of my confusion comes from blurred gender lines and gender roles.

About all I really seem to understand from my rather limited interaction with trans people is that it often seems to involve preferred physical appearance and preferred bathroom usage.  I'm not sure if there's something that's more basic that I'm not grasping.  Like I said though, I guess I have a hard time not viewing gender itself as a social construct with a blurred line separating things.

I suppose that what I'm saying is "the quick and dirty answer" only gives me a vague understanding.  Probably just my human brain trying to put some kind of concrete/solid characteristic to what being trans means.   Like I said though, even with a definition I feel like my understanding is poor.

To put it another way, could a trans person do something that makes them not "truly" trans?  If so, what?

I'd like to add that trying to get a clear idea from Wikipedia lead to a bunch of articles with issues; even then the articles tended to contradict themselves or point out that there's conflict in definition.  In other words, it was confusing as all fuck and just had me cussing at my computer.

Interestingly/intriguingly enough, there were things about intersex/cultural/brain differences in my reading.  Those were enlightening/intriguing.

tl;dr:  All this reading to try to understand the definition of transgender managed to both intrigue me and give me a headache.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on January 22, 2014, 03:03:19 pm
(http://coolpicsbro.com/fs/i/2014/01/21/08d427a962ba56e2bf5612bb2bd19c.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 22, 2014, 03:05:50 pm
(http://coolpicsbro.com/fs/i/2014/01/21/08d427a962ba56e2bf5612bb2bd19c.jpg)
I am so reposting that.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 24, 2014, 03:46:04 pm
(http://oi43.tinypic.com/14t66ns.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: wrightway on January 24, 2014, 09:28:19 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/Vui7Zom.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 25, 2014, 12:20:12 am
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/29669494.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 25, 2014, 09:57:25 am
I hate that meme
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 25, 2014, 11:10:40 am
I hate that meme
Why?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 25, 2014, 12:25:35 pm
Because it's used to strawman feminists. And it's not even a protest sign, it's a meme.
You seem to have no problem with strawmen of:
-Conservatives
-Republicans
-Pro-Lifers
-MRAs
-Corporate Executives
-Libertarians
-Tea Partiers
-Hawks
-And probably a number of others I've missed.

If you're going to oppose strawmen, at least be consistent.

And just because it's a meme, doesn't mean it's not a protest sign.  Memes have been used in protests.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on January 25, 2014, 12:27:25 pm
I hate that meme
Why?

Because it's used to strawman feminists. And it's not even a protest sign, it's a meme.
And it "disappears" those men who actually are victims in abusive relationships with disturbed women.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Canadian Mojo on January 25, 2014, 02:15:34 pm
I hate that meme
Why?

Because it's used to strawman feminists. And it's not even a protest sign, it's a meme.
And it "disappears" those men who actually are victims in abusive relationships with disturbed women.
To play Devil's Advocate, to include them risks accusations of false equivalency.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on January 25, 2014, 07:13:30 pm
And it's still not a protest sign.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cloud3514 on January 26, 2014, 04:58:30 pm
Because it's used to strawman feminists. And it's not even a protest sign, it's a meme.
You seem to have no problem with strawmen of:
-Conservatives
-Republicans
-Pro-Lifers
-MRAs
-Corporate Executives
-Libertarians
-Tea Partiers
-Hawks
-And probably a number of others I've missed.

If you're going to oppose strawmen, at least be consistent.

And just because it's a meme, doesn't mean it's not a protest sign.  Memes have been used in protests.

The fact that you're implying that MRA isn't a "movement" of strawmen makes me wonder if you even think before you make a claim.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 26, 2014, 05:02:12 pm
Because it's used to strawman feminists. And it's not even a protest sign, it's a meme.
You seem to have no problem with strawmen of:
-Conservatives
-Republicans
-Pro-Lifers
-MRAs
-Corporate Executives
-Libertarians
-Tea Partiers
-Hawks
-And probably a number of others I've missed.

If you're going to oppose strawmen, at least be consistent.

And just because it's a meme, doesn't mean it's not a protest sign.  Memes have been used in protests.

The fact that you're implying that MRA isn't a "movement" of strawmen makes me wonder if you even think before you make a claim.
You're being unfair.  Certainly, some MRAs act like that, but most are perfectly normal people.  It's just that the worst of them tend to be the loudest.

Anyway:

(http://www.alexterry.co.uk/365/tshirt106.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cloud3514 on January 26, 2014, 05:18:46 pm
You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you? The MRA "movement" is entirely a rejection of what feminism stands for. It isn't a movement, it's a reaction by assholes who think feminists are trying to take away their right to be sexist.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 26, 2014, 05:22:25 pm
I've often heard it (accurately) described that the MRA movement blames women for the actions of other men.

I haven't really seen MRAs complaining that it's their fellow men oppressing them, and I want to see that because it would be a welcome change of pace.

By the way, I don't have to be a mod to say this... but it would be best to keep the insults to Flame and Burn.  Ultimate Paragon even has a thread dedicated to him, though it's titled Dynamic Dragon.  And I'm not so sure that he is DD after all.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sleepy on January 26, 2014, 05:24:37 pm
Yeeeah, the men's rights movement began as a response to feminism in the early 70's. It's not exactly a positive feminism equivalent.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 26, 2014, 05:29:32 pm
Generally speaking, men who are concerned by the unequal rights that men and women have are called "feminists."

And being a feminist man isn't the same thing as being a "mangina" as a lot of MRAs would like to call them.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 27, 2014, 05:16:29 pm
It seems to me as though you're taking a few rotten apples and then using them to claim that the barrel itself is rotten.  However, we seem to be getting off-topic, so let's continue this discussion in another thread.  I don't want this to end up like the "Die Cis Scum" thing.

Anyway:

(http://www.urbancusp.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/trans_protest1.jpeg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on January 27, 2014, 06:04:03 pm
YOU ARE SO ADORABLE!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ghoti on January 27, 2014, 06:12:58 pm
It seems to me as though you're taking a few rotten apples and then using them to claim that the barrel itself is rotten.  However, we seem to be getting off-topic, so let's continue this discussion in another thread.  I don't want this to end up like the "Die Cis Scum" thing.

Anyway:

(http://www.urbancusp.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/trans_protest1.jpeg)
I dislike the wording ("transgenders" vs "transgender people") but I agree with the message. However, I think it's slightly off the mark in its goal of getting cis folk to give a damn about trans* folk's struggles. I think a more effective sign would say something like "If your brother/sister/best friend/spouse/son/daughter/etc was transgender, would you get involved?"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 27, 2014, 07:38:49 pm
That would probably hit closer to home...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: wrightway on January 27, 2014, 08:03:44 pm
I don't know if this was posted yet in the best of thread, but it fits the tone of the current conversation here.

(https://24.media.tumblr.com/39282d95b00d53316de96f854bdf2c82/tumblr_mz4scqlEFA1s3sbzwo1_1280.jpg)
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/456cbc615c2df0133adf6004ac80a62c/tumblr_mz4scqlEFA1s3sbzwo2_1280.jpg)
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/0736ff6c4da72c74f30063976579965f/tumblr_mz4scqlEFA1s3sbzwo3_1280.jpg)
Quote
Shut you up real fast.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 27, 2014, 09:29:55 pm
I don't know if this was posted yet in the best of thread, but it fits the tone of the current conversation here.

(https://24.media.tumblr.com/39282d95b00d53316de96f854bdf2c82/tumblr_mz4scqlEFA1s3sbzwo1_1280.jpg)
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/456cbc615c2df0133adf6004ac80a62c/tumblr_mz4scqlEFA1s3sbzwo2_1280.jpg)
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/0736ff6c4da72c74f30063976579965f/tumblr_mz4scqlEFA1s3sbzwo3_1280.jpg)
Quote
Shut you up real fast.
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/550/839/a5b.gif)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ghoti on January 27, 2014, 09:39:03 pm
Goddamnit it's not showing up for me. Would somebody be kind enough to give me a brief rundown?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 27, 2014, 09:42:07 pm
"To me, it seems ridiculous to have a [trans] kid decide at 12, 13, 14 whether they want to have biological children at 20, 30, or 40."
"Well, they make the decision to kill themselves at 12 and 13."
"*Deer in Headlights face*"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ghoti on January 27, 2014, 09:52:15 pm
Thank you, and bless this post.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on January 27, 2014, 10:31:25 pm
Uh, isn't it a bit ridiculous for teenagers deciding that they want kids at age 20, 30, or 40, PERIOD?  I mean, I think that wanting kids "someday" should probably be the last thing on an adolescent's mind.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 27, 2014, 10:52:17 pm
It's not just the decision to have children, it's the decision to NOT have children, as well.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on January 28, 2014, 01:29:13 am
It seems to me as though you're taking a few rotten apples and then using them to claim that the barrel itself is rotten.  However, we seem to be getting off-topic, so let's continue this discussion in another thread.  I don't want this to end up like the "Die Cis Scum" thing.

Anyway:

(http://www.urbancusp.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/trans_protest1.jpeg)
I dislike the wording ("transgenders" vs "transgender people") but I agree with the message. However, I think it's slightly off the mark in its goal of getting cis folk to give a damn about trans* folk's struggles. I think a more effective sign would say something like "If your brother/sister/best friend/spouse/son/daughter/etc was transgender, would you get involved?"

The wording might be because of the space available on the sign.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 29, 2014, 10:37:03 am
(http://www.equalitymaryland.org/uploads/4353/original/alg_transgender_protest.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on January 29, 2014, 11:34:01 am
BROKEN IMAGE!  YOU FAIL!

Ironbite-*Rider Kicks UP in the gonads*
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 29, 2014, 11:35:52 am
BROKEN IMAGE!  YOU FAIL!

Ironbite-*Rider Kicks UP in the gonads*
Want me to post an Imgur link?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on January 29, 2014, 03:17:12 pm
Yes, please...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 29, 2014, 04:18:19 pm
Okay, then.  Here:

(http://i.imgur.com/jS1HHzK.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 30, 2014, 11:47:01 am
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/10/6/1317911602789/Gay-protest-in-Budapest-007.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 01, 2014, 08:47:34 pm
(http://feminspire.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/feminism-anti-rape-protest-300x225.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Caitshidhe on February 02, 2014, 03:15:40 am
I don't know if these have been posted before but they're worth looking at.

Christians attending a pride parade in Chicago sometime in 2011 or 2012:

(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/6/19/13/enhanced-buzz-9656-1340127251-3.jpg)


And how at least one of the participants reacted:

(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/6/20/11/enhanced-buzz-2867-1340206104-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 02, 2014, 11:11:18 am
(http://s1.hubimg.com/u/5725104_f520.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Yla on February 03, 2014, 04:56:44 am
I don't know if these have been posted before but they're worth looking at.

Christians attending a pride parade in Chicago sometime in 2011 or 2012:

[img]http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/6/19/13/enhanced-buzz-9656-1340127251-3.jpg[img]


And how at least one of the participants reacted:

[img]http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/6/20/11/enhanced-buzz-2867-1340206104-3.jpg[img]
They have been posted before, but it's worth posting them again  :)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 03, 2014, 04:15:57 pm
I don't know if these have been posted before but they're worth looking at.

Christians attending a pride parade in Chicago sometime in 2011 or 2012:

[img]http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/6/19/13/enhanced-buzz-9656-1340127251-3.jpg[img]


And how at least one of the participants reacted:

[img]http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/6/20/11/enhanced-buzz-2867-1340206104-3.jpg[img]
They have been posted before, but it's worth posting them again  :)
I agree.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on February 04, 2014, 03:39:13 pm
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4091/5191764863_c7afe89bb1_m.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 04, 2014, 03:39:30 pm
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4091/5191764863_c7afe89bb1_m.jpg)
Clever.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 05, 2014, 12:24:49 pm
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/66/66aefbec9056d6d07c64f0c9d7ee7e3488d4745a6dbe04b8a216d8fdc11fe578.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on February 05, 2014, 01:19:23 pm
Is there a name for this one?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 05, 2014, 01:32:40 pm
Is there a name for this one?
I think it's something like "Progressive Masculist Lion", but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 05, 2014, 03:32:55 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/IFm9LVn.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: gyeonghwa on February 07, 2014, 01:55:05 am
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-02/enhanced/webdr05/4/7/enhanced-buzz-11253-1391517118-13.jpg)

Context (http://www.buzzfeed.com/tomphillips/brewery-launches-anti-putin-beer-in-protest-over-gay-rights): this is a protest beer regarding Russia anti-gay laws. The beer is marked "not for gays' and will be sent to Russia, where the profits will be used for LGBT rights. :P
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 07, 2014, 11:19:54 am
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-02/enhanced/webdr05/4/7/enhanced-buzz-11253-1391517118-13.jpg)

Context (http://www.buzzfeed.com/tomphillips/brewery-launches-anti-putin-beer-in-protest-over-gay-rights): this is a protest beer regarding Russia anti-gay laws. The beer is marked "not for gays' and will be sent to Russia, where the profits will be used for LGBT rights. :P
Delicious irony.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lithp on February 08, 2014, 04:58:14 pm
"Transpeople" is a term, right? Because it seems a Hell of a lot easier than saying, "Transgender people."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on February 08, 2014, 05:05:11 pm
"Transpeople" is a term, right? Because it seems a Hell of a lot easier than saying, "Transgender people."
Yes, until "Transpeople" gets hijacked by the speshul snowflake imaginary issues crowd on Tumblr. And I even wonder if the use of "Transgender people" is maybe a conscious defense against that derp.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 09, 2014, 01:03:53 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/5iqHsAX.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on February 09, 2014, 01:19:35 pm
Google are such advert money whores - 'scuse me, concubines - when it comes to appeasing the Chinese government.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 09, 2014, 01:43:10 pm
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/694/548/bb7.png)

Regionalism seems to be one of the last acceptable bigotries in America.  Good on the writers of MLP for showing it to be wrong.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on February 09, 2014, 01:58:13 pm
Just a warning for the future: Some people generally take offense to ponies being posted outside of their proper thread.  It's a sore spot due to the fact that when the brony phenomena was still new, every thread got de-railed into talking about ponies.

Though lately it seems that the people who would be offended have relaxed a bit about it, probably due to time and infrequency.  Still, best to avoid posting too many things like that outside of the pony thread.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 09, 2014, 01:58:34 pm
Just a warning for the future: Some people generally take offense to ponies being posted outside of their proper thread.  It's a sore spot due to the fact that when the brony phenomena was still new, every thread got de-railed into talking about ponies.

Though lately it seems that the people who would be offended have relaxed a bit about it, probably due to time and infrequency.  Still, best to avoid posting too many things like that outside of the pony thread.
Okay, thanks for the heads-up.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on February 09, 2014, 02:18:15 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/5iqHsAX.png)

I wish there was some sort of software that could unblock censored stuff. I'd LOVE to see a really gifted hacker use said program on the internet of China & other censor-happy nations.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 09, 2014, 02:20:45 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/5iqHsAX.png)

I wish there was some sort of software that could unblock censored stuff. I'd LOVE to see a really gifted hacker use said program on the internet of China & other censor-happy nations.
So would I.  Considering that China's got a large computer-literate population, I'm surprised it hasn't already happened. 

...Or maybe it has and we don't know about it yet.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on February 09, 2014, 02:25:27 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/5iqHsAX.png)

I wish there was some sort of software that could unblock censored stuff. I'd LOVE to see a really gifted hacker use said program on the internet of China & other censor-happy nations.
So would I.  Considering that China's got a large computer-literate population, I'm surprised it hasn't already happened. 

...Or maybe it has and we don't know about it yet.

I see what you did there! :o
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 09, 2014, 02:26:26 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/qmwML9r.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 09, 2014, 02:30:02 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/qmwML9r.png)

I'd argue that simplifying the tax code is not a "simple" process.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 09, 2014, 02:30:32 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/qmwML9r.png)

I'd argue that simplifying the tax code is not a "simple" process.
It's got to be easier than disregarding basic biology.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on February 09, 2014, 03:00:47 pm
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I wish there was some sort of software that could unblock censored stuff. I'd LOVE to see a really gifted hacker use said program on the internet of China & other censor-happy nations.
So would I.  Considering that China's got a large computer-literate population, I'm surprised it hasn't already happened. 

...Or maybe it has and we don't know about it yet.

I see what you did there! :o

Plenty of people in China know ways to proxy spoof and get to see the real internet, and the government censors come up with spybots and malware to counter, and then civilian Chinese nerds come up with other simple, user-friendly ways to bypass that, and it goes back and forth, ad nauseum.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 09, 2014, 03:02:31 pm
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I wish there was some sort of software that could unblock censored stuff. I'd LOVE to see a really gifted hacker use said program on the internet of China & other censor-happy nations.
So would I.  Considering that China's got a large computer-literate population, I'm surprised it hasn't already happened. 

...Or maybe it has and we don't know about it yet.

I see what you did there! :o

Plenty of people in China know ways to proxy spoof and get to see the real internet, and the government censors come up with spybots and malware to counter, and then civilian Chinese nerds come up with other simple, user-friendly ways to bypass that, and it goes back and forth, ad nauseum.
I didn't know that.  Thanks for telling me.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on February 09, 2014, 03:22:41 pm
There is a documentary on Netflix and elsewhere called, 'High Tech Low Life" about two citizen journalists, bloggers, and how they get around the government to put there stuff where regular Chinese people can see it. Very enlightening and gives you a good idea at how very much people over there want freedom from government and industrial oppression, corruption and neglect.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 09, 2014, 03:30:17 pm
There is a documentary on Netflix and elsewhere called, 'High Tech Low Life" about two citizen journalists, bloggers, and how they get around the government to put there stuff where regular Chinese people can see it. Very enlightening and gives you a good idea at how very much people over there want freedom from government and industrial oppression, corruption and neglect.
Maybe I'll check it out.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 09, 2014, 03:52:39 pm
Aye, I'd think that such a thing, something that might get you sent to a work camp or worse, would want to be kept on the down-low and receive as little mainstream publicity as possible.  Improves the odds of certain people living to see tomorrow as free men and women.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on February 09, 2014, 05:32:46 pm
But when it goes viral on weibo, it makes it harder for the government to disappear a blogger without a shitstorm starting. Just check out that docu film. Really interesting. Also, China now is not like PDK, nor quite as bad as it was under Mao.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 09, 2014, 08:18:26 pm
But when it goes viral on weibo, it makes it harder for the government to disappear a blogger without a shitstorm starting. Just check out that docu film. Really interesting. Also, China now is not like PDK, nor quite as bad as it was under Mao.

Aye, but popularity only goes so far.  Its good that they're getting better, but they got a LONNNNNNNNG way to go.  Kinda like the US does.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 09, 2014, 08:25:25 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/L8NxfGD.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on February 11, 2014, 11:22:12 am
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/a3Yy0wm_700b.jpg)

At some point it stops being funny and then it's just a reminder of how stupid and horrible the things that this parody is making fun of are.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on February 11, 2014, 11:23:56 am
Yeah, the less is more rule applies to jokes, too.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 11, 2014, 03:29:56 pm
Yeah, the less is more rule applies to jokes, too.
Exactly.  There is such a thing as overselling humor.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Veras on February 11, 2014, 03:37:45 pm
I laughed at all three, but maybe it would have worked better as three separate posters.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 12, 2014, 04:47:20 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/blbP98U.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Danarth on February 14, 2014, 07:31:10 am
I don't know if these have been posted before but they're worth looking at.

Christians attending a pride parade in Chicago sometime in 2011 or 2012:

(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/6/19/13/enhanced-buzz-9656-1340127251-3.jpg)


And how at least one of the participants reacted:

(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/6/20/11/enhanced-buzz-2867-1340206104-3.jpg)

Signs of humanity! Huzzah!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 14, 2014, 11:52:07 am
Yeah, these guys are really nice.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 15, 2014, 08:57:06 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/vNd7EjG.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 17, 2014, 01:50:06 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/UuiYEyI.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 18, 2014, 12:40:04 am
(http://i.imgur.com/UuiYEyI.jpg)

I'd like to add "neither does being a snarky prick/offensive make you right," but then again look at the audience I'm talking to.

(And no, that's not meant to be a personal attack on you, Ultimate.)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 18, 2014, 12:43:45 am
That's a good amendment, yes.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 18, 2014, 12:49:37 am
That's a good amendment, yes.

Indeed.  Also, people thinking they're right because they're offensive/offended is one of my pet peeves (although to be fair it's human nature and neither you or I are necessarily immune).

By the way, Ultimate Paragon:  Check your PM box!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 18, 2014, 12:50:01 am
That's a good amendment, yes.

Indeed.  Also, people thinking they're right because they're offensive/offended is one of my pet peeves (although to be fair it's human nature and neither you or I are necessarily immune).

By the way, Ultimate Paragon:  Check your PM box!
I already did.  Thanks for answering my question.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 18, 2014, 03:12:32 pm
(http://theblot.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/joffrey.jpeg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Katsuro on February 18, 2014, 04:46:02 pm
I'm probably being a bit thick but I don't get it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 18, 2014, 04:48:48 pm
I'm probably being a bit thick but I don't get it.
Have you heard about the "affluenza defense"?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Katsuro on February 18, 2014, 04:50:21 pm
I'm probably being a bit thick but I don't get it.
Have you heard about the "affluenza defense"?

I have not, but I shall Google...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Katsuro on February 18, 2014, 04:53:09 pm
...Googled it.  WTF?  Claiming diminished responibility because you're rich actually worked?  Fuck me sideways.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 18, 2014, 04:54:11 pm
...Googled it.  WTF?  Claiming diminished responibility because you're rich actually worked?  Fuck me sideways.
Yeah, just ten years ago, that defense would have been laughed out of court.  What is the world coming to?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dakota Bob on February 18, 2014, 05:33:07 pm
...Googled it.  WTF?  Claiming diminished responibility because you're rich actually worked?  Fuck me sideways.
Yeah, just ten years ago, that defense would have been laughed out of court.  What is the world coming to?

Money = Power. and cleary the family of that kid had lots of it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on February 18, 2014, 08:38:40 pm
(http://theblot.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/joffrey.jpeg)

No Joffery that'd be the incest.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 18, 2014, 09:15:55 pm
(http://theblot.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/joffrey.jpeg)

No Joffery that'd be the incest.
Funny thing is, there are legitimate mental illnesses that can be caused by incest.  So, yeah, Joffrey Baratheon has a more legitimate explanation for his douchebaggery than Ethan Couch.  Says a lot, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on February 18, 2014, 09:17:21 pm
While he's got an excuse for being an evil bastard, he's still an evil bastard and will get what's his.

Ironbite-I just wish I could twist the blade in his heart while I extract his soul.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 18, 2014, 09:17:55 pm
REally dont try to apologize for Joffrey
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 18, 2014, 09:18:12 pm
While he's got an excuse for being an evil bastard, he's still an evil bastard and will get what's his.

Ironbite-I just wish I could twist the blade in his heart while I extract his soul.

REally dont try to apologize for Joffrey

Yeah, I never said it was a justification, only a reason.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 19, 2014, 12:24:18 pm
He reminds me of Draco Malfoy.  I'm none too keen on Malfoy the Younger, either.  As in, if he were on fire, I'd be more likely to roast a marshmallow over him than piss on him to put him out.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 19, 2014, 12:51:39 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/K0Tafam.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Damen on February 19, 2014, 03:21:33 pm
He reminds me of Draco Malfoy.  I'm none too keen on Malfoy the Younger, either.  As in, if he were on fire, I'd be more likely to roast a marshmallow over him than piss on him to put him out.

(http://www.rottenecards.com/ecards/Rottenecards_91496413_zwv7swz59x.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 19, 2014, 03:29:49 pm
He reminds me of Draco Malfoy.  I'm none too keen on Malfoy the Younger, either.  As in, if he were on fire, I'd be more likely to roast a marshmallow over him than piss on him to put him out.

(http://www.rottenecards.com/ecards/Rottenecards_91496413_zwv7swz59x.png)
I'm stealing that image.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on February 19, 2014, 04:45:32 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/K0Tafam.jpg)

I don't even think they're wrong, though. Clearly, if you're brought up with huge privilege, particularly in a society where your parents can run an organised crime outfit without accountability, you may well have trouble conceiving of the concept of punishment. But the solution to that isn't to not punish people like that when they do something wrong!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 19, 2014, 04:49:01 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/K0Tafam.jpg)

I don't even think they're wrong, though. Clearly, if you're brought up with huge privilege, particularly in a society where your parents can run an organised crime outfit without accountability, you may well have trouble conceiving of the concept of punishment. But the solution to that isn't to not punish people like that when they do something wrong!

Yeah, I agree.  In my book, the best cure for affluenza is a stint in the slammer.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 22, 2014, 07:45:56 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/pMKiMjO.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 02, 2014, 11:34:43 am
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_EUO4j0HcX28/SSEkAEjGwGI/AAAAAAAADOQ/cBF-QAXvCXI/s400/br03.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 04, 2014, 11:53:59 am
(http://www.conservativedailynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Race-Guilt.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on March 05, 2014, 08:06:27 am
(click to show/hide)
EDIT: Actually, that turned out to be based on a fake article. Well, at least it was funny.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 05, 2014, 05:07:00 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/n3pJxjw.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 06, 2014, 07:55:32 pm
(http://colorlines.com/archival_images/scotus-hearing-outside-6.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 07, 2014, 08:26:25 am
I will always be amused that a great number of the anti-gay signs I see are held by old white people.  Hold that traditional line, crackers, can't have anyone thinking old white folks might not be all full of shit.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 07, 2014, 01:43:22 pm
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/j/B/4/jesus-said-gay-people.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Raymond Dullaghy on March 07, 2014, 04:23:23 pm
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/j/B/4/jesus-said-gay-people.jpg)
Gay people/abortion/Communism/democracy...

Incidentally, I found a good book to that effect called "Thy Kingdom Come: How the Religious Right Distorts Faith and Threatens America", by Randall Balmer, at the local library. Anybody else familiar with it?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 07, 2014, 07:23:46 pm
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/5/D/5/gay-fabric.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on March 09, 2014, 12:07:39 am
(http://i.imgur.com/n3pJxjw.jpg)

Ali is basically a terrible person. If she didn't exist, it would be necessary to invent her.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on March 09, 2014, 03:40:05 am
Ali is basically a terrible person. If she didn't exist, it would be necessary to invent her.
What has she done that is so horrible?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on March 09, 2014, 03:50:43 am
Ali is basically a terrible person. If she didn't exist, it would be necessary to invent her.
What has she done that is so horrible?

Consciously encouraged dangerous Islamopohiba for cash?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: chad sexington on March 09, 2014, 09:10:54 pm
She shills for the extreme right.  Because she came from a Muslim region, she can present an acceptable face to Islamophobic statements.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on March 09, 2014, 09:51:46 pm
Ali is basically a terrible person. If she didn't exist, it would be necessary to invent her.
What has she done that is so horrible?

Consciously encouraged dangerous Islamopohiba for cash?

Is that referring to a specific incident? As far as I can tell, her views on Islam are genuinely held and she'd gladly encourage Islamophobia for free.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on March 09, 2014, 09:57:07 pm
Ali is basically a terrible person. If she didn't exist, it would be necessary to invent her.
What has she done that is so horrible?

Consciously encouraged dangerous Islamopohiba for cash?

Is that referring to a specific incident? As far as I can tell, her views on Islam are genuinely held and she'd gladly encourage Islamophobia for free.

Wasn't there that Newsweek "Muslim Rage" front-cover article that she wrote? Granted, that backfired hilariously.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: booley on March 10, 2014, 03:04:57 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1656055_790939274267997_947506192_n.jpg)

A little re-framing
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on March 10, 2014, 04:17:32 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1656055_790939274267997_947506192_n.jpg)

A little re-framing

*SHA-ZING!*
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on March 10, 2014, 04:19:15 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1656055_790939274267997_947506192_n.jpg)

A little re-framing

That reminds me of something crazy my mum said.

Apparently some Chinese company brought Thames Water and she got really irrational about it and said that they shouldn't have been allowed to buy it, because they will try and posion the water and kill us all.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dakota Bob on March 10, 2014, 06:10:21 pm
If they paid enough, they just might. although it'll probably only create more jobs for the local morgue.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 11, 2014, 01:17:05 am
Ali is basically a terrible person. If she didn't exist, it would be necessary to invent her.
What has she done that is so horrible?

Consciously encouraged dangerous Islamopohiba for cash?

Is that referring to a specific incident? As far as I can tell, her views on Islam are genuinely held and she'd gladly encourage Islamophobia for free.
I think she was the woman who pitched the muhammad was a pedo movie
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 16, 2014, 06:21:09 pm
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/7/5/C/5/choose-to-be-aholes.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on March 16, 2014, 10:29:01 pm
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/7/5/C/5/choose-to-be-aholes.jpg)

*SHA-ZING!*
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 17, 2014, 10:39:16 am
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/O/y/5/homosexuality-is-in.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on March 17, 2014, 11:13:52 am
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/O/y/5/homosexuality-is-in.jpg)

LOVE IT!  ;D ;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dakota Bob on March 17, 2014, 11:29:58 am
Those crazy grins really makes the picture.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 17, 2014, 11:39:46 pm
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/k99ajb.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Damen on March 21, 2014, 06:15:22 pm
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/k99ajb.jpg)

I think the Humanism logo is appropriate here: GOAL!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on March 21, 2014, 08:53:10 pm
....TOUCHDOWN YOU PLEBIAN!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 21, 2014, 10:12:55 pm
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/720/553/71f.gif)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ironchew on March 22, 2014, 02:19:45 am
The Bible would beg to differ.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on March 22, 2014, 06:02:10 pm
The Bible would beg to differ.

It depends on which books, of course.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ironchew on March 22, 2014, 06:15:33 pm
We can reduce the Bible to phrases that sound good in a modern context; of course, we wouldn't have much material left to work with. Would we be so forgiving to other works of literature, such as the Malleus Maleficarum or Mein Kampf? Are we so kind to works that have far less hateful messages in them than the Bible does, such as Herrnstein's and Murray's "The Bell Curve"? No, we rightly regard the hateful content in those books as indicative of the content as a whole; only after Christianity has taken such a thorough beating by nonreligious movements does it find itself desperately seeking new congregants through cherry-picking bits and pieces of its holy text that sound good and ignoring what is clearly the main messages of the Bible -- fear and hate.

Christianity lost its best argument when its adherents were no longer allowed to burn infidels at the stake.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: KZN02 on March 22, 2014, 09:09:34 pm
Admittedly, this came from Liberal Logic 101, but ...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1.0-9/1525719_718085004889723_1064764142_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: lord gibbon on March 22, 2014, 09:14:22 pm
Admittedly, this came from Liberal Logic 101, but ...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1.0-9/1525719_718085004889723_1064764142_n.jpg)

Well, you know what they say about broken clocks...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: KZN02 on March 22, 2014, 09:50:53 pm
Admittedly, this came from Liberal Logic 101, but ...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1.0-9/1525719_718085004889723_1064764142_n.jpg)

Well, you know what they say about broken clocks...
Of course, it should be no surprise if a couple of those "clocks" supported the Patriot Act.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on March 22, 2014, 10:54:39 pm
Admittedly, this came from Liberal Logic 101, but ...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1.0-9/1525719_718085004889723_1064764142_n.jpg)

There is a difference, of course. The CIA/NSA et al could reasonably suggest that they were trying to investigate terrorism in the PRISM program and other wire-tap programs. Obviously, you can't make that claim of their spying on the Senate, it's pure institutional corruption.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Canadian Mojo on March 23, 2014, 09:03:51 am
Admittedly, this came from Liberal Logic 101, but ...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1.0-9/1525719_718085004889723_1064764142_n.jpg)

There is a difference, of course. The CIA/NSA et al could reasonably suggest that they were trying to investigate terrorism in the PRISM program and other wire-tap programs. Obviously, you can't make that claim of their spying on the Senate, it's pure institutional corruption.

You're just not trying hard enough.

They were investigating treason. They were classified investigating information leaks that could aid the enemy. They were investigating foreign nationals acting as lobbyists  pushing for laws that would aid the enemy. They were investigating citizens working as lobbyists for foreign nationals.  Since senators potentially have a great deal of contact with many individuals of interest and eye-witness testimony is unreliable they were recording everything just in case. It's all just a training exercise before trying it abroad and the data will be expunged. We have some very well places sources that know what's up but we need to protect them and are using this as a cover.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 23, 2014, 04:04:20 pm
(http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/files/2012/06/meme-feminist-corgi-decency.jpg)

On a more general note, freedom of speech does not mean freedom from criticism.  I wish more people understood that.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on March 23, 2014, 05:21:03 pm
Admittedly, this came from Liberal Logic 101, but ...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1.0-9/1525719_718085004889723_1064764142_n.jpg)

There is a difference, of course. The CIA/NSA et al could reasonably suggest that they were trying to investigate terrorism in the PRISM program and other wire-tap programs. Obviously, you can't make that claim of their spying on the Senate, it's pure institutional corruption.

You're just not trying hard enough.

They were investigating treason. They were classified investigating information leaks that could aid the enemy. They were investigating foreign nationals acting as lobbyists  pushing for laws that would aid the enemy. They were investigating citizens working as lobbyists for foreign nationals.  Since senators potentially have a great deal of contact with many individuals of interest and eye-witness testimony is unreliable they were recording everything just in case. It's all just a training exercise before trying it abroad and the data will be expunged. We have some very well places sources that know what's up but we need to protect them and are using this as a cover.

Do you seriously believe this, or are you being sarcastic?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Canadian Mojo on March 23, 2014, 05:36:32 pm
Admittedly, this came from Liberal Logic 101, but ...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1.0-9/1525719_718085004889723_1064764142_n.jpg)

There is a difference, of course. The CIA/NSA et al could reasonably suggest that they were trying to investigate terrorism in the PRISM program and other wire-tap programs. Obviously, you can't make that claim of their spying on the Senate, it's pure institutional corruption.

You're just not trying hard enough.

They were investigating treason. They were classified investigating information leaks that could aid the enemy. They were investigating foreign nationals acting as lobbyists  pushing for laws that would aid the enemy. They were investigating citizens working as lobbyists for foreign nationals.  Since senators potentially have a great deal of contact with many individuals of interest and eye-witness testimony is unreliable they were recording everything just in case. It's all just a training exercise before trying it abroad and the data will be expunged. We have some very well places sources that know what's up but we need to protect them and are using this as a cover.

Do you seriously believe this, or are you being sarcastic?
I knew I should have buried something obviously over the top like "the Koch brothers told us to" somewhere in the middle of that list.  :-[
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on March 23, 2014, 11:51:02 pm
(http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/files/2012/06/meme-feminist-corgi-decency.jpg)

On a more general note, freedom of speech does not mean freedom from criticism.  I wish more people understood that.
I propose that everyone on the internet should be made to learn that.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 24, 2014, 10:32:49 am
(http://i.imgur.com/BVdt6aC.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 28, 2014, 11:51:48 am
(http://i.imgur.com/EQGEfne.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheL on March 28, 2014, 03:19:07 pm
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/O/y/5/homosexuality-is-in.jpg)

The more I look at this, the more I wonder if that guy on the right is my old friend JD from college.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 28, 2014, 03:31:33 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m70cf41mkx1rp5jfvo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 28, 2014, 07:32:37 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/EQGEfne.jpg)

Maybe he meant that women stoners are destroying the way men roll joints?  Or something...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 28, 2014, 10:33:14 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/EQGEfne.jpg)

Maybe he meant that women stoners are destroying the way men roll joints?  Or something...
Sadly, no, he's just a misogynist.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 29, 2014, 09:06:58 am
Aw, disappointing.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 29, 2014, 09:23:16 am
Hey, Al.  Here's an organization for you:

(http://i.imgur.com/lp0oaHT.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 29, 2014, 09:40:20 am
And its abbreviation is "TAP!"  I like it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on March 29, 2014, 09:23:53 pm
Can we double tap Rick Perry?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 29, 2014, 10:35:53 pm
Can we double tap Rick Perry?
No.  The last thing we want to do is make him into a martyr.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Alehksunos on March 30, 2014, 04:55:33 pm
Sadly, he already ran this state down to the fucking ground. No other American wants to deal with us because apparently every Texan is the same.

I am also not optimistic that Wendy Davis will be able to unfuck this state over because over half of the population of this state is horrid enough.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 30, 2014, 05:04:02 pm
Sadly, he already ran this state down to the fucking ground. No other American wants to deal with us because apparently every Texan is the same.

I am also not optimistic that Wendy Davis will be able to unfuck this state over because over half of the population of this state is horrid enough.
"Over half"?  Maybe where you live, but I don't think that's true for the state as a whole.

Exhibit A:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhl9MLno424
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on March 30, 2014, 06:29:15 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m70cf41mkx1rp5jfvo1_500.png)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Canadian Mojo on March 31, 2014, 02:42:12 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m70cf41mkx1rp5jfvo1_500.png)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory)
How disappointing, I was hoping that the horseshoe theory involved putting a set of horseshoes in a burlap sack and beating dumbasses with it for the betterment of society.  :(
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on March 31, 2014, 04:36:04 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m70cf41mkx1rp5jfvo1_500.png)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory)
How disappointing, I was hoping that the horseshoe theory involved putting a set of horseshoes in a burlap sack and beating dumbasses with it for the betterment of society.  :(
No, that is the job of the magical crowbar of justice.

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 01, 2014, 08:55:25 am
...I want a magical crowbar of justice.  Where can I get one?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ghoti on April 01, 2014, 10:22:50 am
...I want a magical crowbar of justice.  Where can I get one?
First, you have to become a Magical Girl with a talking cat, tsundere personality, and almost homoerotically-close group of friends (who should also be Magical Girls).
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 01, 2014, 12:07:45 pm
...I want a magical crowbar of justice.  Where can I get one?
First, you have to become a Magical Girl with a talking cat, tsundere personality, and almost homoerotically-close group of friends (who should also be Magical Girls).
In that case, I'll just stick to my zweihänder.

(http://i.imgur.com/QLNIZ02.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on April 01, 2014, 12:09:52 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/QLNIZ02.jpg)

I know I should be screaming something along the lines of "FUCK YOU UP THE ASS WITH A RUSTY CROWBAR!" at the top of my lungs, but all I can do is laugh.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Canadian Mojo on April 01, 2014, 01:04:47 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/QLNIZ02.jpg)

I know I should be screaming something along the lines of "FUCK YOU UP THE ASS WITH A RUSTY CROWBAR!" at the top of my lungs, but all I can do is laugh.
While you are laughing lets have some fun with this stupid little fucker.

Murder is the (unlawful) killing of one human being by another human being. It is something a person does to another person. An animal is incapable of murder; it can only kill someone. Since POC can only kill white people and not murder them this means that by definition POC are in fact not human.

Since POC only rise to the level of animal our laws should be changed to reflect that fact. Their protections should be limited to the animal cruelty laws that all animals are granted. Since they are no longer chattels, they are considered wild or feral and the government is under no legal obligation to look out for their survival and well-being.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on April 01, 2014, 01:22:10 pm
I know I should be screaming something along the lines of "FUCK YOU UP THE ASS WITH A RUSTY CROWBAR!" at the top of my lungs, but all I can do is laugh.

I'm pretty sure this is poe mocking the "white people can't experience racism" thing.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 01, 2014, 01:34:39 pm
I know I should be screaming something along the lines of "FUCK YOU UP THE ASS WITH A RUSTY CROWBAR!" at the top of my lungs, but all I can do is laugh.

I'm pretty sure this is poe mocking the "white people can't experience racism" thing.
So am I.  That's why I put it here.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on April 01, 2014, 01:36:16 pm
I know I should be screaming something along the lines of "FUCK YOU UP THE ASS WITH A RUSTY CROWBAR!" at the top of my lungs, but all I can do is laugh.

I'm pretty sure this is poe mocking the "white people can't experience racism" thing.
So am I.  That's why I put it here.

Still, it's sometimes tough to tell.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 01, 2014, 01:41:58 pm
I know I should be screaming something along the lines of "FUCK YOU UP THE ASS WITH A RUSTY CROWBAR!" at the top of my lungs, but all I can do is laugh.

I'm pretty sure this is poe mocking the "white people can't experience racism" thing.
So am I.  That's why I put it here.

Still, it's sometimes tough to tell.
Yup.  Poe's law exists for a reason.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on April 01, 2014, 02:33:10 pm
I was wondering why this thing was in the AWESOME Protest Signs section.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 01, 2014, 02:33:29 pm
I was wondering why this thing was in the AWESOME Protest Signs section.
I can understand.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on April 01, 2014, 03:01:13 pm
I was wondering why this thing was in the AWESOME Protest Signs section.
The way I read it, it is parody of the "racism is prejudice+power" statements.

They have pretty much just replaced a few words.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 01, 2014, 10:26:14 pm
I was wondering why this thing was in the AWESOME Protest Signs section.
The way I read it, it is parody of the "racism is prejudice+power" statements.

They have pretty much just replaced a few words.
It's the (il)logical extreme of "prejudice plus power".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on April 02, 2014, 02:50:01 am
I'm going to be the shitdisturber here and say white racism is about as real as misandry.

And no, someone calling you a cracker once isn't the same as cops shooting you to death while you walk down the street.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Damen on April 02, 2014, 03:41:10 am
I'm going to be the shitdisturber here and say white racism is about as real as misandry.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltj56bDSBV1qbm32lo1_r1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on April 02, 2014, 03:44:11 am
I'm going to be the shitdisturber here and say white racism is about as real as misandry.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltj56bDSBV1qbm32lo1_r1_500.gif)
im sooo speshul!!!!!!11!
 
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: LeTipex on April 02, 2014, 06:46:23 am
I'm going to be the shitdisturber here and say white racism is about as real as misandry.

And no, someone calling you a cracker once isn't the same as cops shooting you to death while you walk down the street.
That... really, really depends on where you live. The whole world doesn't work lke the US, liz. Hell, the whole US doesn't work like the US.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 02, 2014, 07:14:58 am
Awful lotta honkies in here...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 02, 2014, 08:22:35 am
(http://i.imgur.com/wTOfvdG.gif)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on April 02, 2014, 08:35:16 am
I'm going to be the shitdisturber here and say white racism is about as real as misandry.

And no, someone calling you a cracker once isn't the same as cops shooting you to death while you walk down the street.
That... really, really depends on where you live. The whole world doesn't work lke the US, liz. Hell, the whole US doesn't work like the US.
Yeah, I'm basically referring to the US.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on April 02, 2014, 08:59:05 am
(http://i.imgur.com/wTOfvdG.gif)
so this is now a shitdisturb-off.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 02, 2014, 09:02:36 am
(http://i.imgur.com/wTOfvdG.gif)
so this is now a shitdisturb-off.
What exactly is a "shitdisturb-off"?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on April 02, 2014, 09:04:56 am
(http://i.imgur.com/wTOfvdG.gif)
so this is now a shitdisturb-off.
What exactly is a "shitdisturb-off"?
Where we slather pudding all over are genitals, dress like sailors moon, then grab a duck and see who can eat the most strawberry ice cream.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on April 02, 2014, 09:40:01 am
There's a world of difference between a white guy being insulted in the States by a bitter, bigoted black person than being murdered in cold blood by a roving group of zealots on a revenge rampage in Zimbabwe. So, yeah, dangerous color based bigotry against ethnic European whites in some parts of Africa is a thing, but it does not translate to the States....at all. I deal with bigots of any race the same way; I try to avoid them, and duck out of conversations with them as quickly as possible. Such people tend to get very aggressive if you do not respond to their shit, or nod your head in mock agreement. They are fractured, damaged, truncated people, and not worth wasting your energy on, because they will not consider anything that differs from their views. That kind of change can only happen from within their own minds, on their own time, if it ever happens at all.

The cartoon just posted is presumably aimed at a US audience. It's exaggerated, propagandistic, and very much describes a neocon point of view. There are so very few instances of race-based, hate crime murder against whites - outside of prison gang related murders, which typically have much more to do with turf and activity control than anything else, regardless of race - that the cartoon is pointless, and dissembling, and it annoys me a lot.

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 02, 2014, 10:34:53 am
There's a world of difference between a white guy being insulted in the States by a bitter, bigoted black person than being murdered in cold blood by a roving group of zealots on a revenge rampage in Zimbabwe. So, yeah, dangerous color based bigotry against ethnic European whites in some parts of Africa is a thing, but it does not translate to the States....at all. I deal with bigots of any race the same way; I try to avoid them, and duck out of conversations with them as quickly as possible. Such people tend to get very aggressive if you do not respond to their shit, or nod your head in mock agreement. They are fractured, damaged, truncated people, and not worth wasting your energy on, because they will not consider anything that differs from their views. That kind of change can only happen from within their own minds, on their own time, if it ever happens at all.

The cartoon just posted is presumably aimed at a US audience. It's exaggerated, propagandistic, and very much describes a neocon point of view. There are so very few instances of race-based, hate crime murder against whites - outside of prison gang related murders, which typically have much more to do with turf and activity control than anything else, regardless of race - that the cartoon is pointless, and dissembling, and it annoys me a lot.
That's a bit of an exaggeration.  It's true that the lurid tales of roving gangs of black thugs hunting whitey for sport are just plain dumb.  However, black on white racism does happen in America, and sometimes it's just as bad as it would be the other way around.

Take, for instance, the case of Yahweh ben Yahweh, who founded a black supremacist religious group whose initiation rituals involved murdering white people.

According to the PRA's hate crime statistics, 749 hate crimes were committed against white people in 2007.  While about four times as many hate crimes were committed against black people, it's still a problem.  Privilege means nothing if you're dead.

In other words, anti-white racism isn't just a problem in Zimbabwe.  And while it's not as horrible as "race realists" try to claim, it's also not something that can be dismissed.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on April 02, 2014, 11:06:51 am
UP, I know this is your personal opinion, as is mine stated previously, but I can't help wondering if you are a little afraid of black people sometimes? I lived in Atlanta for 30 years. Not out in the suburbs, but consistently lived in neighborhoods within 3 miles of the downtown hub, surrounded by black people, along with other white people....and never once, in all my years there, mostly taking public transport because driving in Atlanta traffic is an act of masochism...never once did I witness black on white threats of violence because of race hatred. I saw muggings, I saw brawls, I saw all kinds of shit. I'm sure there were a few cases of racial hate crimes against white victims. But dude, I was living in a majority black city (55% black, 38% white, remainder Latino, Asian, etc.), with plenty of poverty, with a huge drug gang problem....and it just was not dangerous for me As A White Person - per se - to walk the streets there. It was dangerous to do as a small female, though, but that is the truth in all US cities.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 02, 2014, 11:12:23 am
UP, I know this is your personal opinion, as is mine stated previously, but I can't help wondering if you are a little afraid of black people sometimes? I lived in Atlanta for 30 years. Not out in the suburbs, but consistently lived in neighborhoods within 3 miles of the downtown hub, surrounded by black people, along with other white people....and never once, in all my years there, mostly taking public transport because driving in Atlanta traffic is an act of masochism...never once did I witness black on white threats of violence because of race hatred. I saw muggings, I saw brawls, I saw all kinds of shit. I'm sure there were a few cases of racial hate crimes against white victims. But dude, I was living in a majority black city (55% black, 38% white, remainder Latino, Asian, etc.), with plenty of poverty, with a huge drug gang problem....and it just was not dangerous for me As A White Person - per se - to walk the streets there. It was dangerous to do as a small female, though, but that is the truth in all US cities.
You're right, black-on-white hate crimes are very rare, as I have already pointed out.  The vast majority of African-Americans are fundamentally decent folk, as is the case with just about any other demographic.  I'm not afraid of black people.  I'm not saying anybody should be afraid of black people.  All I'm saying is that some black people are racist scumbags, just as some white people are racist scumbags.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 02, 2014, 02:33:47 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/oPBDDbi.jpg)
I'm pro-gun, but I fucking hate Ted Nugent.  He's a racist, a coward, and a hypocrite.  Moreover, he makes the rest of us look bad.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on April 02, 2014, 05:47:26 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/oPBDDbi.jpg)
I'm pro-gun, but I fucking hate Ted Nugent.  He's a racist, a coward, and a hypocrite.  Moreover, he makes the rest of us look bad.
Everyone whos parents came from different families hates him.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Damen on April 02, 2014, 10:45:43 pm
I'm about as pro-gun as they come to the point that I would have no trouble lessening the restrictions on suppressors (restricted because of fear of poaching, really?) and I think the National Firearms Act was poorly judged in court (defense telling the judges they should rule based on what the prosecution says? Really?) and yet, for all of that, I just wish Ted Nugent would shut up and go away.

Seriously, I think we can do better than a guy who became a 17-year old girl's legal guardian (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-womack/ted-nugents-jailbait-problem_b_4840060.html) just so he could fuck her.

And with that in mind, I present to you Failure to Fire (http://ftf-comics.com)...

(http://ftf-comics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/410nuge.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sylvana on April 03, 2014, 02:41:54 am
All I'm saying is that some black people are racist scumbags, just as some white people are racist scumbags.

As someone from Africa, this is a depressingly true statement. However, I would like to add a little to this. Even in Africa where whites are a tiny minority, they are still safer in general than your average black person. Even with extreme BEE policies whites are still favored for jobs, more likely to get an education, be protected and investigated by police and be protected by laws and economic policies.

Yes you get racist scumbag black people seething with hate at whites who were / are just waiting for an opportunity to exact violence against white people. However, despite that, whites still have more social power making actual racist acts against them very rare.

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on April 03, 2014, 03:03:17 am
WTF!? Are we seriously having a discussion about racism that is not only calm and respectful but also insightful?
I am so fucking done with everything.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 03, 2014, 08:16:09 am
All I'm saying is that some black people are racist scumbags, just as some white people are racist scumbags.

As someone from Africa, this is a depressingly true statement. However, I would like to add a little to this. Even in Africa where whites are a tiny minority, they are still safer in general than your average black person. Even with extreme BEE policies whites are still favored for jobs, more likely to get an education, be protected and investigated by police and be protected by laws and economic policies.

Yes you get racist scumbag black people seething with hate at whites who were / are just waiting for an opportunity to exact violence against white people. However, despite that, whites still have more social power making actual racist acts against them very rare.
What country in Africa are you from?  I think it depends.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sylvana on April 04, 2014, 01:53:06 am
What country in Africa are you from?  I think it depends.

I am from South Africa, but we get a lot of news and information from the rest of Africa. Despite a reasonably non violent transition from white rule in 1994. There is still a huge amount racism and animosity on both sides particularly amongst those who are older than 40.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 04, 2014, 03:29:26 pm
What country in Africa are you from?  I think it depends.

I am from South Africa, but we get a lot of news and information from the rest of Africa. Despite a reasonably non violent transition from white rule in 1994. There is still a huge amount racism and animosity on both sides particularly amongst those who are older than 40.
South Africa struggled with Apartheid for decades.  That doesn't just go away overnight.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 04, 2014, 03:30:28 pm
The Horseshoe Effect in action:

(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2zisxt1.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on April 04, 2014, 10:32:08 pm
The Horseshoe Effect in action:

(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2zisxt1.jpg)

That graph is confusing. I get what the left-right division is supposed to mean, but I'm not terribly clear on the vertical axis. Is it supposed to be a scale going from minimum to maximum state control? If so, how is it that "looks to the future for inspiration" and "prefers innovation to tradition" (and their equivalent conservative concepts) are located high upon the graphic, when they are basically the fundamental definition of progressivism vs. conservatism*? Or is it somehow more true of a conservative than a reactionary that they like tradition and look to the past? If anything, I'd argue the opposite.

The whole thing looks like it could sort of be analogous to the libertarian political compass (with one axis replaced by a simple division) excepts the actual positions represented in the graph don't really match up.

I tried to hunt down the original source to see if it provides further explanation, but as far as I can tell it's this page (http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~garfinkm/Spectrum.html) which pretty much just contains the graphic itself. Although it does title it "the political  spectrum" which sort of confirms that it's supposed to be read as a gradual scale rather than as a discrete partition.

* to the extent they are general ideologies with consistent definitions and not groups of particular positions that get lumped together by historical accident.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 05, 2014, 02:21:25 am
(http://i.imgur.com/oPBDDbi.jpg)
I'm pro-gun, but I fucking hate Ted Nugent.  He's a racist, a coward, and a hypocrite.  Moreover, he makes the rest of us look bad.

It is, I think, a sign of the stupidity and dishonesty of the average Southern conservative that this cowardly, unprincipled bigot is seriously considered more patriotic than, for instance, Daniel Inoyue. He is after all wildly popular among the Tea party crowd.

I honestly don't think the left-right axis thing is useful any more. It is a semi-nice heuristic. Stop trying to make is slightly more complex, it is never going to be any more useful than it already is.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 06, 2014, 03:49:20 pm
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/n/y/2/equality-newt.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on April 07, 2014, 04:48:55 pm
That graph is confusing.

It's incredibly fucking confusing, in part because it's using two axes to discuss one-and-a-but issues that aren't completely aligned (social politics, mostly, with occasional economics).

Modern American liberalism is essentially the background radiation from the New Deal and the civil rights movement. Modern American conservatism is the increasingly distorted simulacra from the Reagan administration and the Moral Majority. Despite everything gobshite TV pundits will tell you, liberalism and conservatism in the US aren't exact opposites, so they don't map precisely (hence why some of those text labels are a bit tortured). And ironically enough, it's conservatism that is both newer and, in many respects, the more radical and transformative ideology.

It's probably because of these labels - "liberal" and "conservative", that suit neither side of the aisle well - that American political discourse seems to get so garbled. Some Republican voters are conservatives in the proper sense, but many are reactionaries. And sure, some Democrats are liberals, but some are moderates or centrists, and a few are (shock horror) democratic socialists.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 07, 2014, 06:32:46 pm
That graph is confusing.

It's incredibly fucking confusing, in part because it's using two axes to discuss one-and-a-but issues that aren't completely aligned (social politics, mostly, with occasional economics).

Modern American liberalism is essentially the background radiation from the New Deal and the civil rights movement. Modern American conservatism is the increasingly distorted simulacra from the Reagan administration and the Moral Majority. Despite everything gobshite TV pundits will tell you, liberalism and conservatism in the US aren't exact opposites, so they don't map precisely (hence why some of those text labels are a bit tortured). And ironically enough, it's conservatism that is both newer and, in many respects, the more radical and transformative ideology.

It's probably because of these labels - "liberal" and "conservative", that suit neither side of the aisle well - that American political discourse seems to get so garbled. Some Republican voters are conservatives in the proper sense, but many are reactionaries. And sure, some Democrats are liberals, but some are moderates or centrists, and a few are (shock horror) democratic socialists.

Exactly.  Things aren't so black and white.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 08, 2014, 07:54:10 pm
(http://cdn-i.dmdentertainment.com/funpages/cms_content/17644/conspiracynew.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on April 08, 2014, 09:44:01 pm
(http://cdn-i.dmdentertainment.com/funpages/cms_content/17644/conspiracynew.jpg)
I liked the part with the cats.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on April 09, 2014, 12:37:19 pm
(http://cdn-i.dmdentertainment.com/funpages/cms_content/17644/conspiracynew.jpg)
I liked the part with the cats.

Please, spare the cats. Kitties are a zillion times smarter & saner than the conspiracy weirdo.
(http://i58.tinypic.com/4v5r9e.jpg)
The Almighty CAT wouldn't DARE sully itself with such nonsense! The all-wise all knowing fount of deep olde knowledge & wisdom and....RUB IT'S ADORABLE FUZZY BELLY SAYETH CEILING CAT!!!!
YES!...MUST...OBEY!
*rubrubrubrubrubmoarrubrubrubbinrubrub....*
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 09, 2014, 05:02:25 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/a49a6b8083ca2aafbbeea5750a1f1f26/tumblr_mu3w9iOGlg1sioa0ko1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 10, 2014, 07:21:23 am
Eeh, more like the symbol of retarded hipsters and quasi-intellectual stoners, but close enough, I suppose.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 11, 2014, 08:21:13 am
(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/2/5/7/262257_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on April 11, 2014, 03:07:17 pm
I don't get it. What does the assembly-line robot or apple core have to do with anything?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 11, 2014, 03:08:18 pm
I don't get it. What does the assembly-line robot or apple core have to do with anything?
I think it's to show that some of us treat them with more dignity than they would treat a fast food worker or a homeless person.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 11, 2014, 07:39:30 pm
(http://liberallogic101.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/1097097_488667031262477_1363623505_o-500x500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 11, 2014, 08:29:31 pm
(http://liberallogic101.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/1097097_488667031262477_1363623505_o-500x500.jpg)

He's right, of course. Liberallogic is both wrong and obviously wrong as always
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 11, 2014, 08:33:08 pm
Whoops, wrong picture.

I meant to post this:

(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/g/9/4/blame-for-gay-marriage.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Veras on April 11, 2014, 08:50:26 pm
I don't get it. What does the assembly-line robot or apple core have to do with anything?

Maybe they're supposed to represent corporations?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on April 11, 2014, 09:07:50 pm
I don't get it. What does the assembly-line robot or apple core have to do with anything?

Random filler. They needed something to mark as not human for purposes of comparison, doesn't really matter what.

Either that or they are preparing for the robot revolution.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on April 11, 2014, 11:03:33 pm
Whoops, wrong picture.

I meant to post this:

(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/g/9/4/blame-for-gay-marriage.jpg)
But Gayz are the ones who keep adding sodomy-inducing chemicals in the water supply (aided by Obama and the socialist terror-Muslims, of course)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on April 12, 2014, 09:42:29 am
(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/2/5/7/262257_v1.jpg)

The doctor being included obscures the point the cartoonist is making, I think. Most of us were raised to view doctors as authority figures, or at least worthy of our high regard and respect.

All the other humans represent people in positions that are likely to be treated like shit. A portion of the general public are known to treat them as less than worthy of respect and civility. Servers, the homeless, strippers, musicians (other than symphony orchestra members), and cashiers - all of them - are seen by the assholes in our midst as legitimate targets for scorn and a cold shoulder, or as verbal "punching bags" whenever such a fuckwad feels like venting. Any one of us on this forum who have worked in retail and in restaurants can attest to that.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on April 12, 2014, 10:11:08 am
(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/2/5/7/262257_v1.jpg)

The doctor being included obscures the point the cartoonist is making, I think. Most of us were raised to view doctors as authority figures, or at least worthy of our high regard and respect.

All the other humans represent people in positions that are likely to be treated like shit. A portion of the general public are known to treat them as less than worthy of respect and civility. Servers, the homeless, strippers, musicians (other than symphony orchestra members), and cashiers - all of them - are seen by the assholes in our midst as legitimate targets for scorn and a cold shoulder, or as verbal "punching bags" whenever such a fuckwad feels like venting. Any one of us on this forum who have worked in retail and in restaurants can attest to that.

Actually, I think that putting the doctor first, it helps make the point: just like doctors deserve respect, so too does everyone else.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 12, 2014, 12:28:46 pm
(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/2/5/7/262257_v1.jpg)

The doctor being included obscures the point the cartoonist is making, I think. Most of us were raised to view doctors as authority figures, or at least worthy of our high regard and respect.

All the other humans represent people in positions that are likely to be treated like shit. A portion of the general public are known to treat them as less than worthy of respect and civility. Servers, the homeless, strippers, musicians (other than symphony orchestra members), and cashiers - all of them - are seen by the assholes in our midst as legitimate targets for scorn and a cold shoulder, or as verbal "punching bags" whenever such a fuckwad feels like venting. Any one of us on this forum who have worked in retail and in restaurants can attest to that.

Actually, I think that putting the doctor first, it helps make the point: just like doctors deserve respect, so too does everyone else.
I agree with that.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: KZN02 on April 12, 2014, 03:36:04 pm
So about that grazing land problem thing right now.

(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/v/t1.0-9/10155464_704463442926103_8569851451516472776_n.jpg?oh=65c6a373b03220559e8ab89e05d53609&oe=53BF462D)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 12, 2014, 07:15:20 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2mfg2er.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on April 15, 2014, 01:09:06 am
(http://notalwaysright.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/1381442_762294460462734_1883721131_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 15, 2014, 06:18:12 am
-snip-

I agree with this so much.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 15, 2014, 12:50:42 pm
(http://notalwaysright.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/1381442_762294460462734_1883721131_n.jpg)

(http://persephonemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/bless-this-post-pope-cat.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ghoti on April 15, 2014, 12:54:30 pm
(http://notalwaysright.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/1381442_762294460462734_1883721131_n.jpg)

(http://persephonemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/bless-this-post-pope-cat.jpg)
(http://img.pandawhale.com/98644-bless-this-post-gif-doctor-who-pPo4.gif)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on April 15, 2014, 01:23:54 pm
Real Life Example;

A busy restaurant.

If the manager falls ill and has to leave - no problem, as long as the crew are professional. The restaurant will function fine.

If the bartender has to leave - no problem. A server or a manager can fill in. The restaurant will function fine.

If a server has to leave - no problem. The other servers will pick up the tables in their section. The restaurant will function fine.

If the chef has to leave - (see manager scenario, replace with line cooks)

If a line cook has to leave - (see server scenario, replace with line cooks)

If the dish washer (the human, and/or the machine) has to leave or stops working - big problem! It will take two to three or more people to fill in that position, depending on whether it is a machine breakdown, and/or the dish man or woman leaves. It takes a lot of practice to physically keep up with the processing of actual tons per shift of dirty pots, pans, dishes, glassware and flatware when a restaurant is busy.

The above is based on my 35 years of experience as a restaurant manager and co-owner, and as a bartender and a server. My worst ever experiences at work were when the dish pit broke down during a super busy shift.

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 15, 2014, 04:33:01 pm
(http://nicedeb.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/rape-bad.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Veras on April 15, 2014, 11:39:19 pm
Real Life Example;

A busy restaurant.

If the manager falls ill and has to leave - no problem, as long as the crew are professional. The restaurant will function fine.

If the bartender has to leave - no problem. A server or a manager can fill in. The restaurant will function fine.

If a server has to leave - no problem. The other servers will pick up the tables in their section. The restaurant will function fine.

If the chef has to leave - (see manager scenario, replace with line cooks)

If a line cook has to leave - (see server scenario, replace with line cooks)

If the dish washer (the human, and/or the machine) has to leave or stops working - big problem! It will take two to three or more people to fill in that position, depending on whether it is a machine breakdown, and/or the dish man or woman leaves. It takes a lot of practice to physically keep up with the processing of actual tons per shift of dirty pots, pans, dishes, glassware and flatware when a restaurant is busy.

The above is based on my 35 years of experience as a restaurant manager and co-owner, and as a bartender and a server. My worst ever experiences at work were when the dish pit broke down during a super busy shift.

I agree completely.  When I was a host, I found that one good busser was equal to about three good servers.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 16, 2014, 11:10:28 am
Real Life Example;

A busy restaurant.

If the manager falls ill and has to leave - no problem, as long as the crew are professional. The restaurant will function fine.

If the bartender has to leave - no problem. A server or a manager can fill in. The restaurant will function fine.

If a server has to leave - no problem. The other servers will pick up the tables in their section. The restaurant will function fine.

If the chef has to leave - (see manager scenario, replace with line cooks)

If a line cook has to leave - (see server scenario, replace with line cooks)

If the dish washer (the human, and/or the machine) has to leave or stops working - big problem! It will take two to three or more people to fill in that position, depending on whether it is a machine breakdown, and/or the dish man or woman leaves. It takes a lot of practice to physically keep up with the processing of actual tons per shift of dirty pots, pans, dishes, glassware and flatware when a restaurant is busy.

The above is based on my 35 years of experience as a restaurant manager and co-owner, and as a bartender and a server. My worst ever experiences at work were when the dish pit broke down during a super busy shift.

I agree completely.  When I was a host, I found that one good busser was equal to about three good servers.
Same.  I gained a whole new respect for "menial workers" when I had to help take over dishwashing duty during a summer job at a diner.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on April 16, 2014, 02:43:55 pm
Real Life Example;

A busy restaurant.

If the manager falls ill and has to leave - no problem, as long as the crew are professional. The restaurant will function fine.

If the bartender has to leave - no problem. A server or a manager can fill in. The restaurant will function fine.

If a server has to leave - no problem. The other servers will pick up the tables in their section. The restaurant will function fine.

If the chef has to leave - (see manager scenario, replace with line cooks)

If a line cook has to leave - (see server scenario, replace with line cooks)

If the dish washer (the human, and/or the machine) has to leave or stops working - big problem! It will take two to three or more people to fill in that position, depending on whether it is a machine breakdown, and/or the dish man or woman leaves. It takes a lot of practice to physically keep up with the processing of actual tons per shift of dirty pots, pans, dishes, glassware and flatware when a restaurant is busy.

The above is based on my 35 years of experience as a restaurant manager and co-owner, and as a bartender and a server. My worst ever experiences at work were when the dish pit broke down during a super busy shift.

I agree completely.  When I was a host, I found that one good busser was equal to about three good servers.
Same.  I gained a whole new respect for "menial workers" when I had to help take over dishwashing duty during a summer job at a diner.

This. When I was washing dishes at P.F. Chang's, I would often be reduced to tears by the speed and pressure of the job. Very few people outside those industries realize the amount of stress that comes from having to meet such a high-speed, high-standard job in a noisy, chaotic environment where you're isolated even from your fellow workers.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on April 16, 2014, 02:59:37 pm
When you are a dish washer, you are like the heart in a body; everybody depends on you to do your job correctly and efficiently, but also take you completely for granted, as well. From an ethical standpoint, it qualifies as the most egregiously underpaid job, as are other essential and dangerous jobs like trash collection and highway maintenance work.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 16, 2014, 04:44:02 pm
When you are a dish washer, you are like the heart in a body; everybody depends on you to do your job correctly and efficiently, but also take you completely for granted, as well. From an ethical standpoint, it qualifies as the most egregiously underpaid job, as are other essential and dangerous jobs like trash collection and highway maintenance work.
Moral of the story: be nice to them.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 16, 2014, 05:13:37 pm
When you are a dish washer, you are like the heart in a body; everybody depends on you to do your job correctly and efficiently, but also take you completely for granted, as well. From an ethical standpoint, it qualifies as the most egregiously underpaid job, as are other essential and dangerous jobs like trash collection and highway maintenance work.
Moral of the story: be nice to them.

I'd tip my dishwasher in a restaurant, if I could.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 16, 2014, 05:15:57 pm
When you are a dish washer, you are like the heart in a body; everybody depends on you to do your job correctly and efficiently, but also take you completely for granted, as well. From an ethical standpoint, it qualifies as the most egregiously underpaid job, as are other essential and dangerous jobs like trash collection and highway maintenance work.
Moral of the story: be nice to them.

I'd tip my dishwasher in a restaurant, if I could.
You don't have to.  Tips in restaurants are often pooled and divided more-or-less equally among the workers.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on April 16, 2014, 05:24:39 pm
Anyway, yes, you can make a notation on the tip line if you pay with a card designating a tip to the dishwasher. Or, you can ask for an envelope to leave a cash tip for them. A majority of restaurants, at least the independent ones, don't pool tips unless the restaurant is "sold out" to a very large private event party. Mostly, servers and bartenders must tip bussers and barbacks, but only occasionally dishwashers. At fancy restaurants, it gets complex; servers will tip out a total of 20 to 25 percent of their gross tip income to be divided amongst bussers, wine stewards, maître d's, bartenders, and coat check room attendants or valets. Sometimes it even includes the dishwasher, maybe! So much suck, for so little pay...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 16, 2014, 05:29:41 pm
Hrm...duly noted.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 16, 2014, 07:27:11 pm
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/8/5/3/gay-bridal-registry.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Random Gal on April 16, 2014, 09:45:26 pm
I worked at my college's dining hall for five months last year. I never want to work in food service again after that (Especially when they had me manning the dishwashing room by myself a couple times in the summer).

And I've developed a huge amount of respect for food service workers as a result.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 17, 2014, 12:49:52 pm
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/i/C/5/religion-marriage-donut.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: KZN02 on April 17, 2014, 02:57:16 pm
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/10262029_10152348452859834_4739805278353768693_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on April 19, 2014, 06:25:59 pm
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/apqjwB5_700b_v2.jpg)

EDIT:

(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/axNnA3b_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 20, 2014, 07:23:52 pm
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/I/x/4/imagine-how-stupid-40-years.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Id82 on April 20, 2014, 07:39:30 pm
Does that say Race Mixing is Communism?
They were throwing that word around back then as well.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 20, 2014, 07:41:37 pm
Does that say Race Mixing is Communism?
They were throwing that word around back then as well.
Yes, it does.  Ad hominem attacks are nothing new.

“The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies 'something not desirable'." - George Orwell
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Veras on April 20, 2014, 11:08:21 pm
Does that say Race Mixing is Communism?
They were throwing that word around back then as well.

Yep, the Transitive Property of Politics applied then as well.

I dislike A, I dislike B, therefore, A = B.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 20, 2014, 11:09:27 pm
Does that say Race Mixing is Communism?
They were throwing that word around back then as well.

Yep, the Transitive Property of Politics applied then as well.

I dislike A, I dislike B, therefore, A = B.
Russia Iran Disco Suck
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Veras on April 20, 2014, 11:16:17 pm
To be fair, disco really is communistic.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 20, 2014, 11:44:49 pm
I heard Hitler was really into mirror balls.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on April 20, 2014, 11:47:33 pm
I'm putting this here because it is a valid point.

(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aLKNb1x_700b_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 21, 2014, 10:15:57 pm
A shame that, for most hard-core gun lovers, it IS only about protecting their guns. After all, the NRA happily blamed free speech for violence to try to get the public eye off their guns.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 22, 2014, 11:45:24 am
(http://dummidumbwit.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/1383656_770409499652791.jpg?w=640)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Jodie on April 23, 2014, 01:22:08 pm
Lol.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 23, 2014, 03:36:27 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/2coseow.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 24, 2014, 08:30:04 am
Ever notice how people in BOTH those pics are almost exclusively old, white people?  Fucking old crackers are tryin to ruin it for the rest of us.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 24, 2014, 08:36:29 am
Ever notice how people in BOTH those pics are almost exclusively old, white people?  Fucking old crackers are tryin to ruin it for the rest of us.
Not always.  There were some black and Latino protesters at a gay pride parade my cousin was in.  I tried to point out the irony, but they didn't bite.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 24, 2014, 08:54:10 am
Ever notice how people in BOTH those pics are almost exclusively old, white people?  Fucking old crackers are tryin to ruin it for the rest of us.
Not always.  There were some black and Latino protesters at a gay pride parade my cousin was in.  I tried to point out the irony, but they didn't bite.

Nonono, I mean those two specific pictures.  Although, that bullshit does seem to be largely the domain of old crackers with too much free time on their hands.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on April 24, 2014, 11:34:02 am
Ever notice how people in BOTH those pics are almost exclusively old, white people?  Fucking old crackers are tryin to ruin it for the rest of us.

It's both more subtle and darkly funnier than that; In the picture from the '50's or early '60's, about half of the bigots shown are young. In the picture from recent times...it's completely possible that some of those are the exact same people, now grown old. At the rate societal attitudes are improving, we really are seeing it as a matter of time before most of the bigots just die off.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 24, 2014, 11:36:01 am
Ever notice how people in BOTH those pics are almost exclusively old, white people?  Fucking old crackers are tryin to ruin it for the rest of us.

It's both more subtle and darkly funnier than that; In the picture from the '50's or early '60's, about half of the bigots shown are young. In the picture from recent times...it's completely possible that some of those are the exact same people, now grown old. At the rate societal attitudes are improving, we really are seeing it as a matter of time before most of the bigots just die off.
Time is on our side.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 24, 2014, 11:48:22 am
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/727/423/e90.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on April 24, 2014, 08:06:48 pm
Ever notice how people in BOTH those pics are almost exclusively old, white people?  Fucking old crackers are tryin to ruin it for the rest of us.

It's both more subtle and darkly funnier than that; In the picture from the '50's or early '60's, about half of the bigots shown are young. In the picture from recent times...it's completely possible that some of those are the exact same people, now grown old. At the rate societal attitudes are improving, we really are seeing it as a matter of time before most of the bigots just die off.

That's my feeling, too. Each generation is more progressive than the next. Love it!


Had to shrink Ultimate Paragon's graphic a tad:
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2gwvww3.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 24, 2014, 08:09:18 pm
Ever notice how people in BOTH those pics are almost exclusively old, white people?  Fucking old crackers are tryin to ruin it for the rest of us.

It's both more subtle and darkly funnier than that; In the picture from the '50's or early '60's, about half of the bigots shown are young. In the picture from recent times...it's completely possible that some of those are the exact same people, now grown old. At the rate societal attitudes are improving, we really are seeing it as a matter of time before most of the bigots just die off.

That's my feeling, too. Each generation is more progressive than the next. Love it!
I think you're mistaken.  From my understanding, progress is not a straight line.  It's more like a line graph.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on April 24, 2014, 08:15:05 pm
Ever notice how people in BOTH those pics are almost exclusively old, white people?  Fucking old crackers are tryin to ruin it for the rest of us.

It's both more subtle and darkly funnier than that; In the picture from the '50's or early '60's, about half of the bigots shown are young. In the picture from recent times...it's completely possible that some of those are the exact same people, now grown old. At the rate societal attitudes are improving, we really are seeing it as a matter of time before most of the bigots just die off.

That's my feeling, too. Each generation is more progressive than the next. Love it!
I think you're mistaken.  From my understanding, progress is not a straight line.  It's more like a line graph.

Well, yeah....but I'm talking in rough generalizations.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 24, 2014, 08:16:05 pm
Ever notice how people in BOTH those pics are almost exclusively old, white people?  Fucking old crackers are tryin to ruin it for the rest of us.

It's both more subtle and darkly funnier than that; In the picture from the '50's or early '60's, about half of the bigots shown are young. In the picture from recent times...it's completely possible that some of those are the exact same people, now grown old. At the rate societal attitudes are improving, we really are seeing it as a matter of time before most of the bigots just die off.

That's my feeling, too. Each generation is more progressive than the next. Love it!
I think you're mistaken.  From my understanding, progress is not a straight line.  It's more like a line graph.

Well, yeah....but I'm talking in rough generalizations.
Yeah.  You're right about the big picture.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on April 24, 2014, 08:20:23 pm
Ever notice how people in BOTH those pics are almost exclusively old, white people?  Fucking old crackers are tryin to ruin it for the rest of us.

It's both more subtle and darkly funnier than that; In the picture from the '50's or early '60's, about half of the bigots shown are young. In the picture from recent times...it's completely possible that some of those are the exact same people, now grown old. At the rate societal attitudes are improving, we really are seeing it as a matter of time before most of the bigots just die off.

That's my feeling, too. Each generation is more progressive than the next. Love it!
I think you're mistaken.  From my understanding, progress is not a straight line.  It's more like a line graph.

Well, yeah....but I'm talking in rough generalizations.
Yeah.  You're right about the big picture.

Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 24, 2014, 09:49:46 pm
Ever notice how people in BOTH those pics are almost exclusively old, white people?  Fucking old crackers are tryin to ruin it for the rest of us.

It's both more subtle and darkly funnier than that; In the picture from the '50's or early '60's, about half of the bigots shown are young. In the picture from recent times...it's completely possible that some of those are the exact same people, now grown old. At the rate societal attitudes are improving, we really are seeing it as a matter of time before most of the bigots just die off.

That's my feeling, too. Each generation is more progressive than the next. Love it!
I think you're mistaken.  From my understanding, progress is not a straight line.  It's more like a line graph.

Well, yeah....but I'm talking in rough generalizations.
Yeah.  You're right about the big picture.

Thanks!  :)
You're welcome.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 25, 2014, 03:07:58 am
Agreement?  On FQA?

Not on my watch!

...Oh wait, it isn't my watch.

Carry on.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Vypernight on April 25, 2014, 04:58:33 am
Ever notice how people in BOTH those pics are almost exclusively old, white people?  Fucking old crackers are tryin to ruin it for the rest of us.
Not always.  There were some black and Latino protesters at a gay pride parade my cousin was in.  I tried to point out the irony, but they didn't bite.

Reminds me of an episode of The Daily Show where they showed some woman who spoke about growing up in the 60's and having to fight for all of her rights.  She then ended it with, "And now, as a voting American, and Jesus-loving Christian, I thank God for my right to vote away gay marraige."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 25, 2014, 09:39:08 am
Ever notice how people in BOTH those pics are almost exclusively old, white people?  Fucking old crackers are tryin to ruin it for the rest of us.
Not always.  There were some black and Latino protesters at a gay pride parade my cousin was in.  I tried to point out the irony, but they didn't bite.

Reminds me of an episode of The Daily Show where they showed some woman who spoke about growing up in the 60's and having to fight for all of her rights.  She then ended it with, "And now, as a voting American, and Jesus-loving Christian, I thank God for my right to vote away gay marraige."
Do you have a clip?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ironchew on April 25, 2014, 10:28:47 am
Ever notice how people in BOTH those pics are almost exclusively old, white people?  Fucking old crackers are tryin to ruin it for the rest of us.

It's both more subtle and darkly funnier than that; In the picture from the '50's or early '60's, about half of the bigots shown are young. In the picture from recent times...it's completely possible that some of those are the exact same people, now grown old. At the rate societal attitudes are improving, we really are seeing it as a matter of time before most of the bigots just die off.

More likely, the zeitgeist shifts a bit and the values young people hold today will be considered depressingly ignorant and possibly a little bigoted in the future. Generations after us will be haranguing us to change our ways and we'll be making half-hearted appeals to the good old days of the early 21st century when we didn't have to think about being sensitive toward whatever social justice issue is in vogue.

I'm optimistic that older people can change their minds; the alternative is that society will improve a little after each one of us dies.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on April 25, 2014, 11:17:54 am
Most definitely, most older people can change their minds, but by my definition at least, that means they were not genuine bigots to begin with - just prejudiced and naïve, until experience and new knowledge led them to an attitude change.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 25, 2014, 11:21:19 am
Most definitely, most older people can change their minds, but by my definition at least, that means they were not genuine bigots to begin with - just prejudiced and naïve, until experience and new knowledge led them to an attitude change.
Yeah.  There's little that can help genuine bigots, but those who are simply ignorant can change for the better much easily.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on April 25, 2014, 11:46:50 am
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aEwy6wN_700b_v2.jpg)

EDIT:

(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/ab5KW3r_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 25, 2014, 03:02:19 pm
(http://static.happyplace.com/assets/images/2013/03/51521bf37c29e.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Vypernight on April 25, 2014, 03:36:05 pm
Ever notice how people in BOTH those pics are almost exclusively old, white people?  Fucking old crackers are tryin to ruin it for the rest of us.
Not always.  There were some black and Latino protesters at a gay pride parade my cousin was in.  I tried to point out the irony, but they didn't bite.

Reminds me of an episode of The Daily Show where they showed some woman who spoke about growing up in the 60's and having to fight for all of her rights.  She then ended it with, "And now, as a voting American, and Jesus-loving Christian, I thank God for my right to vote away gay marraige."
Do you have a clip?

I'll try and find it but it was a year or two ago when I saw it. 
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Veras on April 25, 2014, 09:45:53 pm
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/ab5KW3r_700b.jpg)

I fucking love wordplay, so from the bottom of my heart, thank you for this.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on April 25, 2014, 11:58:04 pm
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/ab5KW3r_700b.jpg)

I fucking love wordplay, so from the bottom of my heart, thank you for this.

I'm with you...GREATNESS!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 26, 2014, 09:47:13 am
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/ab5KW3r_700b.jpg)

I fucking love wordplay, so from the bottom of my heart, thank you for this.

I'm with you...GREATNESS!
Thirded.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 26, 2014, 02:12:19 pm
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/7/6/V/4/gay-marriage-call-it.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 27, 2014, 11:15:23 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/euklxc.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 29, 2014, 04:07:04 pm
(http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-funniest-protest-signs.htm)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on April 29, 2014, 05:31:49 pm
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/A/v/5/god-prefers-atheists.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 29, 2014, 06:33:13 pm
I hope that's real
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on April 29, 2014, 10:24:29 pm
No reason it wouldn't be real. It's a mainstream Methodist church. I've seen "Happy Gay Pride Day!" on the marquee of an Episcopalian church before, too.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 29, 2014, 10:40:16 pm
Methodists (and Episcopalians) tend to run the entire political spectrum so it's hard for me to tell sometimes.

Just because they were "liberal" when I was a fundie doesn't mean they're actually liberal, after all :P
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on April 29, 2014, 10:46:02 pm
True, and it freaks me out how fast Dominionists and other extreme adherents have infiltrated the mainstream churches, too, but by and large, the Unitarians, United Church of Christ, Presbyterians, United Methodists (not Southern Methodists) and most assuredly Episcopalians remain centrist to liberal, and even progressive.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 29, 2014, 10:48:44 pm
That is indeed comforting.

Incidentally, I've seen significant pockets of Norse Heathens that actively speak out against the racism and white supremacy that fester within the religious umbrella of "Norse Heathenism".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 29, 2014, 11:56:50 pm
That is indeed comforting.

Incidentally, I've seen significant pockets of Norse Heathens that actively speak out against the racism and white supremacy that fester within the religious umbrella of "Norse Heathenism".
Just goes to show, there's good and bad in just about every religion.  Of course, there are exceptions where the institution itself is terrible *cough*Scientology*cough*.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 30, 2014, 12:16:21 am
Yes.

Still, though, I wish there were more Norse heathens speaking out against the racism.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 30, 2014, 06:45:38 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/2eeehxt.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ghoti on April 30, 2014, 07:22:23 pm
Cool pic Ultie, but it's huge. Could you please put it in a spoiler?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 01, 2014, 09:28:47 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/adivdi.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 04, 2014, 03:46:28 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/6p3tb6.jpg)
I wish more people would look past arbitrary definitions.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on May 04, 2014, 03:53:36 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/6p3tb6.jpg)
I wish more people would look past arbitrary definitions.
Wrong vs less wrong.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on May 04, 2014, 04:24:52 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/6p3tb6.jpg)
I wish more people would look past arbitrary definitions.

How is this awesome? All it does is say "Ha-ha! Fear the wrath of our mighty wordplay, you people who are always wrong!"

On an unrelated note, the previous sentence made me feel like I was writing dialogue for the French knight in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 04, 2014, 04:44:25 pm
That's basically a case of "Haha, the left is wrong and the right is right"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 04, 2014, 04:49:25 pm
That's basically a case of "Haha, the left is wrong and the right is right"
I don't see it that way.  I see it as a case of "let's look past petty, artificial distinctions and worry about what's right".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 04, 2014, 05:39:03 pm
That's basically a case of "Haha, the left is wrong and the right is right"
I don't see it that way.  I see it as a case of "let's look past petty, artificial distinctions and worry about what's right".

.........

Did you even pay attention to the colors? Or the ... anything, really.

No offense, UP, but you're blatantly wrong on that interpretation.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 04, 2014, 06:29:52 pm
That's basically a case of "Haha, the left is wrong and the right is right"
I don't see it that way.  I see it as a case of "let's look past petty, artificial distinctions and worry about what's right".

.........

Did you even pay attention to the colors? Or the ... anything, really.

No offense, UP, but you're blatantly wrong on that interpretation.
I thought so too.  Then I saw that this is a New Zealand T-shirt.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on May 04, 2014, 08:27:55 pm
That's basically a case of "Haha, the left is wrong and the right is right"
I don't see it that way.  I see it as a case of "let's look past petty, artificial distinctions and worry about what's right".

.........

Did you even pay attention to the colors? Or the ... anything, really.

No offense, UP, but you're blatantly wrong on that interpretation.
I thought so too.  Then I saw that this is a New Zealand T-shirt.

What's your point? New Zealand still has Left vs. Right politics, and it wouldn't surprise me if the color associations were the same. In any case, the colors on the shirt clearly show that the shirt was designed to push right-wing politics. If they'd altered the colors for the words "wrong" and "right", then I might agree with your interpretation; as is, the colors used clearly try to link right and wrong specifically to whichever side of the political spectrum you're on.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on May 04, 2014, 08:39:29 pm
That's basically a case of "Haha, the left is wrong and the right is right"
I don't see it that way.  I see it as a case of "let's look past petty, artificial distinctions and worry about what's right".

.........

Did you even pay attention to the colors? Or the ... anything, really.

No offense, UP, but you're blatantly wrong on that interpretation.
I thought so too.  Then I saw that this is a New Zealand T-shirt.

What's your point? New Zealand still has Left vs. Right politics, and it wouldn't surprise me if the color associations were the same. In any case, the colors on the shirt clearly show that the shirt was designed to push right-wing politics. If they'd altered the colors for the words "wrong" and "right", then I might agree with your interpretation; as is, the colors used clearly try to link right and wrong specifically to whichever side of the political spectrum you're on.

Interestingly, the US is the only country in, I think, the world that associates Red with the right. This is primarily because every other country's left-wing party began life as a socialist trade union - hence, red.

There you go.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on May 04, 2014, 08:44:25 pm
That's basically a case of "Haha, the left is wrong and the right is right"
I don't see it that way.  I see it as a case of "let's look past petty, artificial distinctions and worry about what's right".

.........

Did you even pay attention to the colors? Or the ... anything, really.

No offense, UP, but you're blatantly wrong on that interpretation.
I thought so too.  Then I saw that this is a New Zealand T-shirt.

What's your point? New Zealand still has Left vs. Right politics, and it wouldn't surprise me if the color associations were the same. In any case, the colors on the shirt clearly show that the shirt was designed to push right-wing politics. If they'd altered the colors for the words "wrong" and "right", then I might agree with your interpretation; as is, the colors used clearly try to link right and wrong specifically to whichever side of the political spectrum you're on.

Interestingly, the US is the only country in, I think, the world that associates Red with the right. This is primarily because every other country's left-wing party began life as a socialist trade union - hence, red.

There you go.

The US only associates red with the right because of the 2000 presidential election. Before that, networks chose the colours assigned to each party for the electoral college map at random (though I think they coordinated among themselves to ensure they all used the same colours that year)--one got blue, one got red, and white was for undecided states. After the 2000 election, however, people got so used to looking at that map that the association of blue with the Democratic Party and red with the Republican Party was too ingrained in the public consciousness to have future elections switch the colours.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 04, 2014, 08:47:07 pm
I was going to get to that.  In most other countries, Red is considered a color of socialism and/or labor.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 04, 2014, 10:15:20 pm
And it was here, very much so, until a few years after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Both Dems and GOP used red white and blue altogether as a tricolor motif in campaign buttons, bumper stickers and posters. The TV electoral maps in earlier years were just shaded with patterns, since not a majority of homes had color TVs yet.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on May 04, 2014, 10:23:14 pm
I thought so too.  Then I saw that this is a New Zealand T-shirt.

Then I guess some New Zealanders should be pretty upset that American t-shirt website Patriot Shirt Works (http://patriotshirtworks.com/product/left-vs-right-wrong-vs-right-t-shirt/)* is selling their design and explicitly saying it's a shirt about how the left is wrong.


*Its tagline is "Made in the USA by Americans". Y'know, just in case someone confuses them for New Zealanders.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 04, 2014, 10:28:29 pm
I thought so too.  Then I saw that this is a New Zealand T-shirt.

Then I guess some New Zealanders should be pretty upset that American t-shirt website Patriot Shirt Works (http://patriotshirtworks.com/product/left-vs-right-wrong-vs-right-t-shirt/)* is selling their design and explicitly saying it's a shirt about how the left is wrong.


*Its tagline is "Made in the USA by Americans". Y'know, just in case someone confuses them for New Zealanders.
Apparently, either this is plagiarism, or my source was wrong.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on May 04, 2014, 11:09:45 pm
What was your source?

It wouldn't be the first website to sell a plagiarised design, but a reverse image search on the pic only brings up the site I posted. Searching for the phrase doesn't bring up much that's of relevance (there's this other shirt  (http://www.zazzle.com/left_and_right_wing_t_shirts-235362566220535495) from zazzle, which is essentially the same as the other one except with less thought going into the design and is also explicitly about the left being wrong).

In summary: If there is another source, it takes more work than a few minutes of googling to find and that's about as much effort as I care to put into the issue.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 04, 2014, 11:11:27 pm
It was a blog.  I don't remember very well.  I got this a while back.  I'll let you know if I find it.

(http://oi57.tinypic.com/2dvk1f5.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 05, 2014, 11:41:08 am
It was a blog.  I don't remember very well.  I got this a while back.  I'll let you know if I find it.

(http://oi57.tinypic.com/2dvk1f5.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/lRQXkUV.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 05, 2014, 11:56:38 am
It was a blog.  I don't remember very well.  I got this a while back.  I'll let you know if I find it.

(http://oi57.tinypic.com/2dvk1f5.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/lRQXkUV.png)
Glad to see Rudolph approves.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 05, 2014, 12:18:48 pm
For the first point of that pic...how is pointing out that religious belief is inherently irrational "shaming?"  I mean real shaming, not the bullshit SJW "shaming."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ironchew on May 05, 2014, 02:14:01 pm
Religious people get all bent out of shape about any criticism of their beliefs and they assume it's a personal criticism.

If someone told me they were abducted by UFOs, they would fully expect that belief to be ridiculed. The same should apply with religious claims.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 05, 2014, 02:21:12 pm
Religious people get all bent out of shape about any criticism of their beliefs and they assume it's a personal criticism.

That's quite the broad brush you have there, buddy.

Say, don't you get bent out of shape whenever anyone points out the problems with Dawkins or r/atheism?

Oh right, I'm not allowed to criticize you on this because it's "projection".  Somehow.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 05, 2014, 02:49:01 pm
People who make it personal, like calling a believer an idiot, are stupidly rude.

It's just a civilized, social norm to be polite enough to not make harshly worded criticisms of their beliefs, and to respect that people have a right to defend their own personal opinions and beliefs.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 05, 2014, 02:49:45 pm
People who make it personal, like calling a believer an idiot, are stupidly rude.

It's just a civilized, social norm to be polite enough to not make harshly worded criticisms of their beliefs, and to respect that people a right to have and defend their own personal opinions and beliefs.

Pretty much this.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 05, 2014, 08:36:17 pm
You have a right to believe, I have a right to not believe, and we both have the right to criticize one another.  We do not, however, have the right to not be offended.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 05, 2014, 08:42:21 pm
You have a right to believe, I have a right to not believe, and we both have the right to criticize one another.  We do not, however, have the right to not be offended.

On the other hand, going out of your way to offend people is kind of a dick move.  You have a right to it, but it's still a bad thing.

(Not that I'm saying YOU'RE doing it, just "you" in general)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 06, 2014, 11:07:08 am
You have a right to believe, I have a right to not believe, and we both have the right to criticize one another.  We do not, however, have the right to not be offended.

On the other hand, going out of your way to offend people is kind of a dick move.  You have a right to it, but it's still a bad thing.

(Not that I'm saying YOU'RE doing it, just "you" in general)

I only do it occasionally, lol.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 06, 2014, 11:59:16 am
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/2u53j86.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on May 06, 2014, 07:09:05 pm
While not a protest sign itself, this could easily be made in to one by puting a caption at the bottom that just says, "Really guys?"

According to the page I found this on it is "Keywords monitored on Social Networking Sites by the Dept. of Homeland Security from page 20 - 21 of the operational manual , section 2.13. Keywords & Search Terms".

(http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/files.php?pid=249677&aid=18846)

I found it on the chemistry forum "Sciencemadness.org" in the thread http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=19989 (http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=19989). Just the first page of threads in their "Legal and Societal Issues" sub-board makes it sound like anyone with a slight interest in chemistry or science is branded a terrorist and monitered by all kinds of agencies.

The funny part is I think almost everyone uses at least a couple of the words listed every day, considering some are so vague. If you're playing video games you probably end up using many more. When talking with my friends once about the NSA monitoring video games like WoW and such I said something to the effect of "If they tried to make an automated monitoring system for GTA V voice chat, the second the computer turned on it would overload and burst in to flames."

This shit is ridiculous. It's like the person writing the list was actively trying to be as stupid about it as possible while still getting it in he manual.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 06, 2014, 11:57:22 pm
That looks like a translated keyword list lifted from East Germany in the eighties.

http://www.businessinsider.com/stasi-talks-about-nsa-surveillance-state-2013-6#!J0FoQ (http://www.businessinsider.com/stasi-talks-about-nsa-surveillance-state-2013-6#!J0FoQ)

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on May 07, 2014, 12:54:40 am
That looks like a translated keyword list lifted from East Germany in the eighties.

http://www.businessinsider.com/stasi-talks-about-nsa-surveillance-state-2013-6#!J0FoQ (http://www.businessinsider.com/stasi-talks-about-nsa-surveillance-state-2013-6#!J0FoQ)

The first comment on that made me laugh.

"Computers and networks enable surveillance, but they also enable the mutation of culture at a faster rate. The snoops can't keep up because they can't tell what's relevant. Can you imagine the meeting over whether Cheezburger is a site that needs to be monitored? Can you imagine the brass hats even trying to understand what a meme is and how it functions?"


(http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/xceiling.jpg.pagespeed.ic.NiET6HNW6V.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIT0DlPCEAE_6KM.jpg)

I remember someone once comparing the internet to Cthulhu. Keep in mind that when you try to look at the entire internet, it's like looking at the entirety of Cthulhu. Seriously, think about what having to analyze the deepest, darkest parts of the internet will do to someone's mind.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on May 07, 2014, 08:14:52 am
Speaking of which, hey, NSA. How are you, Phil?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on May 07, 2014, 02:25:06 pm
We lost Phil last week.  Now it's Bridget.

Ironbite-she's a nice girl.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on May 07, 2014, 06:57:25 pm
When me and my friends are playing GTA V and say something that would incredibly suspicious out of context and would likely set of an automated keyword monitor, I'll pretend to start talking to the guy who's spying on us. We named him Bob.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 07, 2014, 06:58:46 pm
Quote
We named him Bob.

As in, Bob's yer Uncle...Sam.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 07, 2014, 11:36:43 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/xc54s3.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 08, 2014, 12:06:10 am
Good message, puke-worthy delivery.  In my opinion.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on May 08, 2014, 02:51:19 pm
- It's not a good idea to use the equals sign as a symbol for equality right next to the greater than used as a comparator. It just ends up looking like a greater-than-or-equal-to.
- It bugs me when people use "-ism" as though it can only mean stuff like sexism or racism. I know it's not what the intention, but it ends up sounding like they are saying that all ideologies are inherently evil.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 09, 2014, 10:24:40 am
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/727/759/2ae.png)

(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/727/761/374.png)

(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/727/763/b4a.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 09, 2014, 02:12:18 pm
- It's not a good idea to use the equals sign as a symbol for equality right next to the greater than used as a comparator. It just ends up looking like a greater-than-or-equal-to.

Oh, thank the pig, I was hoping to hell I wasn't the only one that bothered.  My inner programmer was screaming "SYNTAX ERROR!  SYNTAX ERROR!"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on May 09, 2014, 04:14:43 pm
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/10247212_798946256791983_5091366254978185942_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 09, 2014, 05:03:00 pm
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/10247212_798946256791983_5091366254978185942_n.jpg)
Who is this guy?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on May 09, 2014, 05:11:38 pm
...

Rand Paul.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 09, 2014, 05:27:19 pm
...

Rand Paul.
Oh, duh.  I didn't recognize him.  You ever have one of those moments?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 09, 2014, 07:29:13 pm
Rand Paul has a very... unmemorable face.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 09, 2014, 07:30:53 pm
Rand Paul has a very... unmemorable face.

By design...of the body snatcher race of pod people.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 09, 2014, 07:33:47 pm
Rand Paul has a very... unmemorable face.

By design...of the body snatcher race of pod people.

D:
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 09, 2014, 07:37:41 pm
'Splains a lot about Randroids, duddinit? :P
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 09, 2014, 07:38:08 pm
Rand Paul has a very... unmemorable face.

By design...of the body snatcher race of pod people.

D:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRVfGMjdGh8
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on May 09, 2014, 08:56:34 pm
He's really not getting math is he?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 09, 2014, 09:01:12 pm
He's really not getting math is he?
Math is for communists!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on May 09, 2014, 09:33:42 pm
...

Rand Paul.
OH FUCK!
I JUST RESIZED HIS NAMES A COMBINATION OF RON PAUL AND AYN RAND!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on May 09, 2014, 09:34:13 pm
He's really not getting math is he?
Math is for communists!
Only nerds do math.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on May 09, 2014, 10:17:46 pm
For some reason, I'm no longer able to see pics from scontent.com. Can someone tell me what it says?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 09, 2014, 10:27:12 pm
For some reason, I'm no longer able to see pics from scontent.com. Can someone tell me what it says?
Maybe posting a tinypic version will help?

(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2v0opx3.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on May 10, 2014, 12:23:04 am
...

Rand Paul.
OH FUCK!
I JUST RESIZED HIS NAMES A COMBINATION OF RON PAUL AND AYN RAND!

Sort of. His given name is Randall. He chose to use Rand.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 10, 2014, 09:16:07 am
If only Ron had named him Galt instead of Randall. Galt Rand Paul; totally a name for FREEDOM! :P
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 10, 2014, 08:30:59 pm
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/20a6joz.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 10, 2014, 09:26:37 pm
That just feels like fearmongering to me.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on May 10, 2014, 11:24:18 pm
I have a feeling someone out there probably cuts cocaine with flour, but I agree with the message regardless.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 10, 2014, 11:29:02 pm
The gluten myth is just another money making bit of crap for selling health books and diet alternatives...and is the bane of restaurants, everywhere. Scientific illiteracy is big business.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 10, 2014, 11:45:04 pm
Well there are people who can't process gluten in their bodies, but there's no health benefits to cutting it out for anyone else.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 11, 2014, 12:00:43 am
Quote
In 2007, my wife's cake shop did not offer a gluten-free option. Six years later, hardly a month goes by without a request for a gluten-free tasting. Thanks in part to celebrities such as Oprah Winfrey and Lady Gaga, nearly one-third of all consumers are now interested in gluten-free food, a multi-billion-dollar industry projected to exceed $10 billion by 2017. (Even children's play sand now comes with a gluten-free guarantee!)

This is very perplexing, given that only 1 per cent of the population has coeliac disease and only 0.5 per cent is allergic to wheat. What could possibly be causing widespread reports of non-coeliac gluten intolerance, commonly blamed for a raft of symptoms including gas, bloating, diarrhoea, constipation, fatigue, goose bumps, dizziness, infertility, migraines, joint inflammation and even mood disorders?
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23851-what-if-your-gluten-intolerance-is-all-in-your-head.html#.U27zhWdOX3g (http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23851-what-if-your-gluten-intolerance-is-all-in-your-head.html#.U27zhWdOX3g)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeliac_disease (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeliac_disease)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on May 11, 2014, 12:03:18 am
Quote
In 2007, my wife's cake shop did not offer a gluten-free option. Six years later, hardly a month goes by without a request for a gluten-free tasting. Thanks in part to celebrities such as Oprah Winfrey and Lady Gaga, nearly one-third of all consumers are now interested in gluten-free food, a multi-billion-dollar industry projected to exceed $10 billion by 2017. (Even children's play sand now comes with a gluten-free guarantee!)

This is very perplexing, given that only 1 per cent of the population has coeliac disease and only 0.5 per cent is allergic to wheat. What could possibly be causing widespread reports of non-coeliac gluten intolerance, commonly blamed for a raft of symptoms including gas, bloating, diarrhoea, constipation, fatigue, goose bumps, dizziness, infertility, migraines, joint inflammation and even mood disorders?
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23851-what-if-your-gluten-intolerance-is-all-in-your-head.html#.U27zhWdOX3g (http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23851-what-if-your-gluten-intolerance-is-all-in-your-head.html#.U27zhWdOX3g)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeliac_disease (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeliac_disease)
Plenty of people are allergic to gluten, just 90% of the time those who say they are are self diagnosed.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 11, 2014, 12:05:22 am
I take them about as seriously as people with "self-diagnosed" autism.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on May 11, 2014, 12:06:32 am
I take them about as seriously as people with "self-diagnosed" autism.
Wow, ur ableist!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 11, 2014, 11:10:12 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/28mg1s9.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dakota Bob on May 11, 2014, 01:20:40 pm
No, I'M America!

I'm America, and so's my wife!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 11, 2014, 02:49:55 pm
(http://dalje.com/slike/slike_3/r1/g2008/m06/y174828324510331.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 12, 2014, 02:46:14 pm
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/rmuzht.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 13, 2014, 12:43:59 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/20zco6s.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: KZN02 on May 13, 2014, 05:14:21 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/20zco6s.jpg)
And divorce, I guess.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sour Grapes on May 14, 2014, 03:43:12 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/20zco6s.jpg)
And divorce, I guess.
True.  Would be... weird way to stimulate the economy.  "Hey we heteros make our significant others miserable all the time, while married.  Why should gay folks be left out?"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 16, 2014, 11:28:28 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/20zco6s.jpg)
And divorce, I guess.
True.  Would be... weird way to stimulate the economy.  "Hey we heteros make our significant others miserable all the time, while married.  Why should gay folks be left out?"
It's a joke, and one that makes a good point.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 18, 2014, 08:58:49 pm
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/anYZj6o_700b_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 19, 2014, 05:37:49 pm
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/a2Ng7DZ_700b_v3.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on May 19, 2014, 06:35:38 pm
As a machinist myself, all the respect to that guy.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 20, 2014, 08:48:44 pm
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/7/X/x/5/mawage-brings-us-together.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 21, 2014, 09:02:45 am
(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/4/8/9/274489.jpg?v=1)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on May 21, 2014, 10:33:03 am
(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/4/8/9/274489.jpg?v=1)

Gotta love the late, great Carroll O'Connor! Great point!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 21, 2014, 01:41:27 pm
Cultural pride and "surviving oppression" pride is okay, though.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 21, 2014, 01:47:37 pm
Cultural pride and "surviving oppression" pride is okay, though.
And national pride.  Provided it doesn't cross the line into jingoism, that is.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: KZN02 on May 21, 2014, 02:12:45 pm
(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/4/8/9/274489.jpg?v=1)
I've always had a feeling some racists think that way because they are ashamed they have not done anything spectacular and thus have to piggyback on others.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 21, 2014, 08:32:09 pm
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aG9vL6n_700b_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 21, 2014, 08:56:50 pm
Is there even an overlap between the two?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 21, 2014, 09:01:32 pm
Is there even an overlap between the two?
Yes, there is.  I know from personal experience.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 21, 2014, 10:21:15 pm
Yeah, I've seen it too. It's a super stupid kind of sociological schizophrenia caused by people who really are completely scientifically illiterate, but will hop on a bandwagon cuz the other cool kids do. And they actually think they are genuine progressives. Total delusion. Mirror the extreme right derps.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 21, 2014, 10:47:02 pm
Very well, then.

I wonder how we discourage that sort of behavior :/
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 22, 2014, 07:44:18 am
Death rays?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on May 22, 2014, 10:46:54 am
Cultural pride and "surviving oppression" pride is okay, though.
And national pride.  Provided it doesn't cross the line into jingoism, that is.

Yes. I agree.


Yeah, I've seen it too. It's a super stupid kind of sociological schizophrenia caused by people who really are completely scientifically illiterate, but will hop on a bandwagon cuz the other cool kids do. And they actually think they are genuine progressives. Total delusion. Mirror the extreme right derps.

Kind of like those hipster/anarchist/Lefty kids who are into Ron Paul....the antithesis of everything these youth stand for....but they dig him for his anti-drug war/anti-Iraq stances.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 22, 2014, 10:58:34 am
You said it.  I fucking cringe every time some progressive admits to being a Ron Paul supporter.  Why they would want to ally with a racist, homophobic, misogynistic, anti-Semitic, objectivist piece of shit is beyond me.  I know politics makes strange bedfellows, but come on!  This is extremely disconcerting.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Alehksunos on May 22, 2014, 12:02:54 pm
For a while my mother thought Ron Paul was one of the greatest men she has ever heard of. While I never got to prove her wrong, I just love that she was yet another person deceived  by his hollow packs of lies.

She even supported his notion to reintroduce the Gold Standard, which will bankrupt our nation to Hell and back, like all of these lol-ibertarian proposals.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 22, 2014, 12:05:42 pm
Considering Russia has a large share of the world's goldmines, and actually planned, back in Soviet days, to flood the precious metals market with gold to disrupt the world's economy, yeah, not a good idea.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 22, 2014, 12:31:30 pm
Considering Russia has a large share of the world's goldmines, and actually planned, back in Soviet days, to flood the precious metals market with gold to disrupt the world's economy, yeah, not a good idea.
It's official: Ron Paul is a shithead in every sense of the word.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 22, 2014, 12:39:56 pm
He's a self-stroking dickweed.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 22, 2014, 04:45:52 pm
(http://thumbs.policymic.com/vXLRapOoczWDDmdkFUIa9E0UnAk=/0x0:653x649/filters:quality(85):strip_icc(1)/s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpolicymic-images%2F6d7ed59dc998fc17a80afe43343980b0355079533754f46fdaf5094ee516e8ab.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on May 22, 2014, 05:32:45 pm
She even supported his notion to reintroduce the Gold Standard, which will bankrupt our nation to Hell and back, like all of these lol-ibertarian proposals.

That probably wouldn't bankrupt the nation so much. It'd just be regular dumb, not special dumb.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 22, 2014, 06:13:09 pm
She even supported his notion to reintroduce the Gold Standard, which will bankrupt our nation to Hell and back, like all of these lol-ibertarian proposals.

That probably wouldn't bankrupt the nation so much. It'd just be regular dumb, not special dumb.

Wait, what?  I thought being bankrupt was pretty much a binary thing: you either are bankrupt, or you're not bankrupt.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on May 22, 2014, 06:37:26 pm
She even supported his notion to reintroduce the Gold Standard, which will bankrupt our nation to Hell and back, like all of these lol-ibertarian proposals.

That probably wouldn't bankrupt the nation so much. It'd just be regular dumb, not special dumb.

Wait, what?  I thought being bankrupt was pretty much a binary thing: you either are bankrupt, or you're not bankrupt.

Sort of--there's "bankrupt but we use special techniques to make ourselves look not bankrupt" (what the US Treasury did while Congress was squabbling over raising the debt ceiling) and "actually bankrupt" (what the US Treasury constantly warned would eventually happen).
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 22, 2014, 06:47:39 pm
So, there's: not bankrupt, bankrupt, and "bankrupt?"  (Yes, those are sarcasm quotes.)  That...makes all kinds of no damned sense at all, but that's government for ya, I suppose.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on May 22, 2014, 07:13:27 pm
So, there's: not bankrupt, bankrupt, and "bankrupt?"  (Yes, those are sarcasm quotes.)  That...makes all kinds of no damned sense at all, but that's government for ya, I suppose.

That's still probably simplifying things, but yeah, that's my understanding. There was a to-do where during one hissy fit over the debt ceiling the Republicans were threatening to remove the Treasury's ability to use "extraordinary measures" (as they are called), which would, by my understanding, remove the "bankrupt" part of that.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 22, 2014, 07:16:19 pm
So in other words, creative accounting.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on May 22, 2014, 07:21:29 pm
So in other words, creative accounting.

Well, here's Timothy Geithner's letter to Harry Reid explaining it:

http://www.treasury.gov/connect/blog/Pages/letter-to-congress.aspx
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on May 22, 2014, 09:37:35 pm
(http://thumbs.policymic.com/vXLRapOoczWDDmdkFUIa9E0UnAk=/0x0:653x649/filters:quality(85):strip_icc(1)/s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpolicymic-images%2F6d7ed59dc998fc17a80afe43343980b0355079533754f46fdaf5094ee516e8ab.jpg)

I don't get this one. Explain please?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 22, 2014, 09:38:34 pm
(http://thumbs.policymic.com/vXLRapOoczWDDmdkFUIa9E0UnAk=/0x0:653x649/filters:quality(85):strip_icc(1)/s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpolicymic-images%2F6d7ed59dc998fc17a80afe43343980b0355079533754f46fdaf5094ee516e8ab.jpg)

I don't get this one. Explain please?
It's a rebuttal to people using the argument "she was a slut, so she was asking to be raped".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on May 22, 2014, 09:40:57 pm
(http://thumbs.policymic.com/vXLRapOoczWDDmdkFUIa9E0UnAk=/0x0:653x649/filters:quality(85):strip_icc(1)/s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpolicymic-images%2F6d7ed59dc998fc17a80afe43343980b0355079533754f46fdaf5094ee516e8ab.jpg)

I don't get this one. Explain please?
It's a rebuttal to people using the argument "she was a slut, so she was asking to be raped".

Ah, ok. Thanks.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: KZN02 on May 23, 2014, 01:24:37 am
(https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/1184759_835721583115521_1298309568618412722_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on May 23, 2014, 03:53:07 am
She even supported his notion to reintroduce the Gold Standard, which will bankrupt our nation to Hell and back, like all of these lol-ibertarian proposals.

That probably wouldn't bankrupt the nation so much. It'd just be regular dumb, not special dumb.

Wait, what?  I thought being bankrupt was pretty much a binary thing: you either are bankrupt, or you're not bankrupt.

I was being nice. Adopting the gold standard could not possibly bankrupt the US. Nor could anything. The gold standard would be very bad for the economy and for people. It wouldn't even be much of a problem for the US government I don't think.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 23, 2014, 09:34:37 am
She even supported his notion to reintroduce the Gold Standard, which will bankrupt our nation to Hell and back, like all of these lol-ibertarian proposals.

That probably wouldn't bankrupt the nation so much. It'd just be regular dumb, not special dumb.

Wait, what?  I thought being bankrupt was pretty much a binary thing: you either are bankrupt, or you're not bankrupt.

I was being nice. Adopting the gold standard could not possibly bankrupt the US. Nor could anything. The gold standard would be very bad for the economy and for people. It wouldn't even be much of a problem for the US government I don't think.

So, it'd be idiotic, just not suicidally idiotic.  Makes sense.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 23, 2014, 09:56:59 am
As you stated Fred, it would indeed be very bad for the economy, but with the degrees of GDP committed to funding government operations and infrastructure today - the spending that cannot politically or economically be changed without great damage - a gold standard would put a stranglehold on all levels of governments' projects and programs. A huge percentage of the work done by civilian industry and services is in government contracts they bid for and won.

Before Nixon finally removed us completely from the gold standard, it was commonplace to have spells of high inflation, often following the reported trends of both hoarding and selling panics in the stock markets and commodities futures markets. It was a time of apparent serious civil unrest as far as the panicky people saw it. But a time of great social progress, in fact.

As a school girl, I saw the news and heard my parents and teachers focus on inflation, inflation, inflation. Nixon started a national media and social crisis propaganda scheme - with the best of intentions - called W.I.N., for Whip Inflation Now. The economy was showing clear signs of spiraling price rises, a speculative panic, the natural opposite of a speculative bubble in intent, but with very broad and dire consequences which would theoretically lead to hyper inflation.

You would see WIN buttons and bumper stickers all over the place. It was meant to rally the populace into teaming up, including small companies and big corporations, to not panic and hoard and speculatively raise prices in anticipation of them rising, regardless. The WIN slogan did not really catch on very well, and Nixon ultimately did the better thing by an executive order to change the dollar to a fiat currency.

With the nearly total conversion of trading and commerce to electronic transactions - even cash sales' deposits and withdrawals are incorporated into this instantaneous credit/debit accounting - a gold standard would drag down the efficiency of the economies of the world, much as if we were to trade in all of our motor vehicles - cars, trucks, trains, ships and planes - for horses, sails and hot air balloons.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on May 23, 2014, 10:24:10 am
Also, the total value of all gold in existence is still worth less than the amount of wealth in existence.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on May 23, 2014, 10:47:15 am
Other than tradition, gold really no longer has meaning as a value storage and exchange medium. The lolbertarians say, "But gold is King! Gold is solid and real! Gold is nigh on indestructible!". It's also cumbersome and wide open to speculation bubbles and busts, as is any physical commodity. It's in the same general class as tulips and Beanie Babies, although it at least has many practical uses in industry and retail goods.

Any monetary system of economics and trade is based on a tacit social contract; a hard and fast cultural belief that money is a value unit worth trading for goods and services. Fiat currencies do have the vulnerability of their intrinsic value being tied to confidence levels in their issuing governments' reliability and transparency, as well as what ever degree of trust in the reliability of the nation's population to be productive and inventive in practical, constructive ways. Fiat currencies also leave a country vulnerable to economic sanctions more so that a gold standard would for that very reason. However, in this day and age, no nation is a true, self-sustaining island unto itself. Gold based or not, if a country chooses to not play fair on a level field, it will ultimately wither away. Witness the PDRK. It only "survives" on luck and black market dealings with the outside world. Should Putin continue down his crazy warpath, and fight sanctions with gold, the already tattered and breaking Russian economy will become even more chaotic; panic hoarding and speculative price gouging galore. The people will end up eating him alive.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 23, 2014, 03:03:01 pm
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3h5ohoBVD1qaahf6o1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on May 24, 2014, 09:20:29 am
Other than tradition, gold really no longer has meaning as a value storage and exchange medium. The lolbertarians say, "But gold is King! Gold is solid and real! Gold is nigh on indestructible!". It's also cumbersome and wide open to speculation bubbles and busts, as is any physical commodity. It's in the same general class as tulips and Beanie Babies, although it at least has many practical uses in industry and retail goods.

Any monetary system of economics and trade is based on a tacit social contract; a hard and fast cultural belief that money is a value unit worth trading for goods and services. Fiat currencies do have the vulnerability of their intrinsic value being tied to confidence levels in their issuing governments' reliability and transparency, as well as what ever degree of trust in the reliability of the nation's population to be productive and inventive in practical, constructive ways. Fiat currencies also leave a country vulnerable to economic sanctions more so that a gold standard would for that very reason. However, in this day and age, no nation is a true, self-sustaining island unto itself. Gold based or not, if a country chooses to not play fair on a level field, it will ultimately wither away. Witness the PDRK. It only "survives" on luck and black market dealings with the outside world. Should Putin continue down his crazy warpath, and fight sanctions with gold, the already tattered and breaking Russian economy will become even more chaotic; panic hoarding and speculative price gouging galore. The people will end up eating him alive.

The value of gold, like any metal, depends on what people put into it. Gold has no intrinsic value, just a bunch of yellow metal.


(http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3h5ohoBVD1qaahf6o1_400.jpg)

She's gotta point! I highly doubt Tamar & those Midianite girls ran around in miniskirts!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 24, 2014, 09:29:25 am
Quote
The value of gold, like any metal, depends on what people put into it. Gold has no intrinsic value, just a bunch of yellow metal.

Exactly.  Many cultures considered other materials to be considerably more valuable.  West Africa valued salt, China valued jade, the Mayans valued obsidian, etc.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 24, 2014, 10:09:33 am
At least gold has value in that its an excellent conductor and is more or less immune to pretty much every acid that's NOT aqua regia.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 24, 2014, 11:30:23 am
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/760/707/1ac.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: starseeker on May 24, 2014, 12:16:33 pm
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/760/707/1ac.jpg)

For context that's from a tube train (subway) in London, it's parodying the UKIP (UK Independance Party) posters.

Edit: It's probably more likely a Jubilee line train, not Picadilly, they're very similar internally.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 24, 2014, 05:57:08 pm
Here's a resized version.

(http://oi59.tinypic.com/11keayu.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on May 25, 2014, 01:02:25 am
Here's a resized version.

(http://oi59.tinypic.com/11keayu.jpg)

TOO KYOOOOOOOOOTTT! ;D ;D ;D

Does someone have the original UKIP ad for comparison? I'd find & post it but I gotta go to bed. Goodnight!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Veras on May 25, 2014, 09:24:02 am
Would this be it?

(http://easterly.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Bl0QVu_IgAA_S47.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 25, 2014, 12:29:33 pm
Would this be it?

(http://easterly.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Bl0QVu_IgAA_S47.png)
It might be.

(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/a6wggdL_700b_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Igor on May 25, 2014, 12:32:39 pm
...I'm a horrible person, all I can think of is this:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/0/0f/Spy_vs._Spy.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on May 25, 2014, 01:40:18 pm
About the UKIP ad, I "love" how they don't explicitly say that the "26 million people in Europe" is referring to "26 million spooky brown people who are in Europe". Such is the deceptive way of the far-right in politics.

Mudkips are much cuter & snugglier.

I never followed Pokemon but those little guys really crank up the kawaii factor up to eleven.

TOO KYOOOOOOOOT....
(http://i39.tinypic.com/6i5f1t.jpg)
...GIVE ME SUGAR-SHOCK!
(Credit to the person who made this)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 26, 2014, 12:23:03 pm
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/2umtf.jpg)

I see nothing wrong with May-December romances, as long as they're not predatory.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MrsYoungie on May 31, 2014, 12:16:13 pm
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/2umtf.jpg)

I see nothing wrong with May-December romances, as long as they're not predatory.
I reserve the right to feel yucky when I see ugly people together.  I do not reserve the right to outlaw their marriage. (or to say anything to them about it)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 01, 2014, 11:10:35 am
(https://i.imgur.com/u8Z1iVO.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dakota Bob on June 01, 2014, 11:31:57 am
I was thinking pretty much the same thing when I first heard that analogy from the #YesAllWomen thing
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on June 01, 2014, 12:49:31 pm
The original poster was just explaining why some women are cautious around men they don't know, and why "Not ALL men!" is a pointless excuse when 1 in 3 women are victims of domestic abuse and 1 in 6 are raped.
Sorry you two have trouble with understanding things.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 01, 2014, 05:56:30 pm
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/516/134/f47.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on June 01, 2014, 06:00:39 pm
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/516/134/f47.jpg)
That took me a second to get.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Yla on June 02, 2014, 06:18:35 am
[img]https://i.imgur.com/u8Z1iVO.png[img]
Are you sure this is the right thread?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 02, 2014, 09:49:09 am
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/515/239/fff.png)

I know it's a bit dated, but it's still relevant.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 04, 2014, 10:25:08 pm
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/adNwz8M_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 06, 2014, 10:31:35 am
(http://i.imgur.com/WUds1UV.png?1)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on June 06, 2014, 02:41:16 pm
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/515/239/fff.png)

I know it's a bit dated, but it's still relevant.

For those who didn't "get" the Saddam Hussein one.....
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 07, 2014, 01:01:52 pm
I've never understood this double standard:

(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/a6wRKp2_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 07, 2014, 01:07:35 pm
I've never understood this double standard:

Straight guys seem to like it when "lesbians" are doing things because "twice the women twice the HOT."

This interest ends when said guys learn that said "lesbians" DON'T want to have sex with males, though.

On the other hand, seeing two guys do anything remotely homosexual with each other... they tend to take it personally for some strange reason.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on June 07, 2014, 01:37:48 pm
I've never understood this double standard:

Straight guys seem to like it when "lesbians" are doing things because "twice the women twice the HOT."

This interest ends when said guys learn that said "lesbians" DON'T want to have sex with males, though.

On the other hand, seeing two guys do anything remotely homosexual with each other... they tend to take it personally for some strange reason.

For the record: I too used to think "Two girls = hot, Two guys = ewww" back when I was a teenager. This stopped after I overheard some of the girls in my class talking how they didn't mind homosexual men (I think one of them specifically said that she kinda understood them since guys are hot.) but felt that lesbians were a "threat."

That got me thinking about the subject as it was a mirror version of what I felt and I think that was the very point when I realised that there is nothing wrong with being gay and furthermore I shouldn't be squicked by their existence.

And I think that part of straight men finding lesbians hot is that they might be uncomfortable watching another man have sex, perhaps feeling their sexuality threatened if there is a guy involved in the act or something.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on June 08, 2014, 10:44:41 am
This might be a bit offbeat for this thread, but...

(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/apqMgnW_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 08, 2014, 10:59:42 am
This might be a bit offbeat for this thread, but...

(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/apqMgnW_700b.jpg)
In fairness, McDonald's seems to be planning to pay its employees better.

http://wallstcheatsheet.com/business/plot-twist-mcdonalds-isnt-ignoring-workers-minimum-wage-pleas.html/?a=viewall (http://wallstcheatsheet.com/business/plot-twist-mcdonalds-isnt-ignoring-workers-minimum-wage-pleas.html/?a=viewall)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ironchew on June 08, 2014, 12:13:50 pm
This might be a bit offbeat for this thread, but...

(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/apqMgnW_700b.jpg)

All that says to me is "I can't do math, so I'm gonna slacktivist it up and stick it to the man on this test that the man almost certainly will not look at."

Had it not been on a math test (and possibly if it hadn't said #yolo), I would have appreciated its merits.

EDIT: I get it now, huehuehuehue.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Alehksunos on June 08, 2014, 06:50:22 pm
This might be a bit offbeat for this thread, but...

(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/apqMgnW_700b.jpg)

If I were that kid's teacher, I would be beyond pissed off, but everyone who uses "YOLO" obviously have no shame in them.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 08, 2014, 06:58:06 pm
My only problem with it is that even if you get a 4.0 GPA in high school through college, pick a good degree, and apply yourself, you're still pretty likely to get a minimum wage job at McDonalds (though that news about it seems interesting)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: KZN02 on June 08, 2014, 08:01:27 pm
Answer is 3 - 5x.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 09, 2014, 07:15:43 pm
(http://downtrend.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/sign1.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheUnknown on June 09, 2014, 07:44:39 pm
My only problem with it is that even if you get a 4.0 GPA in high school through college, pick a good degree, and apply yourself, you're still pretty likely to get a minimum wage job at McDonalds (though that news about it seems interesting)

"Well, those students are just entitled shits who expect great jobs to be handed to them.  They need to work their way up like everyone else, even if starting wages are worth shit, because they're worth shit.  And if they never work their way up, they're obviously at fault for not trying hard enough."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 09, 2014, 08:30:08 pm
My only problem with it is that even if you get a 4.0 GPA in high school through college, pick a good degree, and apply yourself, you're still pretty likely to get a minimum wage job at McDonalds (though that news about it seems interesting)

"Well, those students are just entitled shits who expect great jobs to be handed to them.  They need to work their way up like everyone else, even if starting wages are worth shit, because they're worth shit.  And if they never work their way up, they're obviously at fault for not trying hard enough."
Next time somebody says something like that, I'm going to call them a Social Darwinist.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 10, 2014, 08:00:38 am
My only problem with it is that even if you get a 4.0 GPA in high school through college, pick a good degree, and apply yourself, you're still pretty likely to get a minimum wage job at McDonalds (though that news about it seems interesting)

"Well, those students are just entitled shits who expect great jobs to be handed to them.  They need to work their way up like everyone else, even if starting wages are worth shit, because they're worth shit.  And if they never work their way up, they're obviously at fault for not trying hard enough."
Next time somebody says something like that, I'm going to call them a Social Darwinist.

They'd probably thank you and give you a copy of Atlas Shrugged.  Though, at least you'd come out of the exchange with plenty of kindling in case you ever go camping, sooooo...net gain!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on June 10, 2014, 02:34:44 pm
http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_933_the-28-most-infuriating-true-statistics-you-dont-know/

There's (as the link indicates) 28 of them, so I'm not posting them here.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 11, 2014, 09:24:48 pm
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/740/280/ebc.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on June 11, 2014, 10:16:46 pm
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/740/280/ebc.jpg)
You know, I personally find full grown dogs more fun than small ones.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 12, 2014, 05:41:52 pm
http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_933_the-28-most-infuriating-true-statistics-you-dont-know/

There's (as the link indicates) 28 of them, so I'm not posting them here.

I didn't know that factoid about Dick Morris. Surely he is the shittiest advertising executive of all time.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 12, 2014, 06:42:30 pm
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/512/757/88f.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on June 15, 2014, 06:37:58 pm
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aVOyZZn_700b.jpg)

EDIT:

(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aQqW1Ke_700b_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 17, 2014, 01:08:35 pm
(http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aLK7VMV_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on June 18, 2014, 11:13:12 am
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aVOyZZn_700b.jpg)

EDIT:

(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aQqW1Ke_700b_v1.jpg)

The second one seems to be a joke rather than a real clipping but much of the point is decent (though the parts about women & the medicine man having sex all night gives it away as a joke with a different point. Also, the chief talks like a stereotype. He might as well be folding his arms like a cartoon genie, scowling & saying 'HOW!'. Gender relations in many Native tribes tended to be more egalitarian, too. Sure, there were task divisions based on sexes but women didn't do 'all the work'...then you have 'Two Spirits'....).


(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/512/757/88f.jpg)

Oh! Wanna huggle doggie! Doggie got point. *huggles doggie*
In fact, in the early 20th Century, pit bulls were "kid's buddies". Buster Brown & Our Gang/The Little Rascals come to mind.

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 18, 2014, 10:26:16 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2mo41ls.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on June 22, 2014, 08:33:58 pm
(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/ay5b5Bp_700b_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 22, 2014, 08:36:59 pm
(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/ay5b5Bp_700b_v1.jpg)

That is one thing for which the Witnesses ought to get credit.  They always make their depictions of Jesus at least somewhat accurate.

(http://static.squarespace.com/static/50071f2c84aef6ab9ccea2d1/510d1870e4b002b79268350e/510d1871e4b002b792683c3a/1359812753822/Jesus.jpg)

Still not totally accurate, but at least it makes more sense than Jesus looking like a modern metalhead.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on June 22, 2014, 08:49:40 pm
(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/ay5b5Bp_700b_v1.jpg)

That is one thing for which the Witnesses ought to get credit.  They always make their depictions of Jesus at least somewhat accurate.

(http://static.squarespace.com/static/50071f2c84aef6ab9ccea2d1/510d1870e4b002b79268350e/510d1871e4b002b792683c3a/1359812753822/Jesus.jpg)

Still not totally accurate, but at least it makes more sense than Jesus looking like a modern metalhead.

This is the first Witness depiction I've seen that looked like that. Most I've seen before were literal albinos...pale skin, red eyes, white hair, the works.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 22, 2014, 11:39:12 pm
There's another thing to consider when trying to figure out what Jesus really looked like: his physique.  Remember, Jesus was a carpenter in the days before power tools, so he probably would have been pretty toned.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 22, 2014, 11:46:00 pm
I've often thought that strong people in ye olden days would not look like today's strong people, because of a lack of protein in their diets. The d00ds in 300 shouldn't have looked like body-building machines, they should have looked like Kenyan runners. Cause they wanted endurance, not burst strength.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 22, 2014, 11:48:22 pm
I've often thought that strong people in ye olden days would not look like today's strong people, because of a lack of protein in their diets. The d00ds in 300 shouldn't have looked like body-building machines, they should have looked like Kenyan runners. Cause they wanted endurance, not burst strength.
Exactly.  That's why I said "toned".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 23, 2014, 12:51:13 am
I've often thought that strong people in ye olden days would not look like today's strong people, because of a lack of protein in their diets. The d00ds in 300 shouldn't have looked like body-building machines, they should have looked like Kenyan runners. Cause they wanted endurance, not burst strength.
Exactly.  That's why I said "toned".

Touche. I overreacted.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 23, 2014, 07:34:50 am
I've often thought that strong people in ye olden days would not look like today's strong people, because of a lack of protein in their diets. The d00ds in 300 shouldn't have looked like body-building machines, they should have looked like Kenyan runners. Cause they wanted endurance, not burst strength.
Exactly.  That's why I said "toned".

Touche. I overreacted.
It's okay, buddy.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 23, 2014, 08:45:21 am
So, basically, you wouldn't want to go into a boxing match against the Lord and Saviour?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on June 23, 2014, 01:56:27 pm
So, basically, you wouldn't want to go into a boxing match against the Lord and Saviour?
(https://historymaniacmegan.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/137208_v1.jpg?w=241&h=300)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on June 23, 2014, 02:34:16 pm
So, basically, you wouldn't want to go into a boxing match against the Lord and Saviour?

I dunno, that whole "turn the other cheek" thing is probably a terrible boxing strategy.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Damen on June 23, 2014, 02:53:38 pm
I dunno, Jesus just might fuck you up after you've found you've brought fists to a sword fight (http://biblehub.com/luke/22-36.htm).
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 24, 2014, 05:44:44 pm
(http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/12/09/climate2_gallery__582x400.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 01, 2014, 06:40:56 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/kKjdi8u.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on July 01, 2014, 06:45:29 pm
I love the cop next to him just smirking like hell.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ghoti on July 01, 2014, 06:55:09 pm
I love the cop next to him just smirking like hell.
I ship it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on July 03, 2014, 12:57:10 am
So this is more "dumb signs altered to be awesome"...

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cloud3514 on July 03, 2014, 01:03:01 am
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.

CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION!

CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION!!!!!

How fucking loud do we have to repeat the first goddamn line of the Bill of Rights before it gets to these assholes?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on July 03, 2014, 01:05:17 am
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.

CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION!

CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION!!!!!

How fucking loud do we have to repeat the first goddamn line of the Bill of Rights before it gets to these assholes?

"But Christianity isn't a religion, it's a personal relationship with JEEZUS!"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on July 03, 2014, 01:42:12 am
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.

CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION!

CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION!!!!!

How fucking loud do we have to repeat the first goddamn line of the Bill of Rights before it gets to these assholes?

"But Christianity isn't a religion, it's a personal relationship with JEEZUS!"

Religions other than Christianity aren't religions either. They are cults and therefore not protected by the freedom of religion. Unlike Christianity which is a religion and therefore "freedom of religion" protects christians and Christianity.

"But didn't you just say that it isn't a religion?" "SHUT UP!"
So this is more "dumb signs altered to be awesome"...

(click to show/hide)
Picture isn't working and I can't open the link if I paste it in the browser either.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on July 03, 2014, 02:05:38 am
So this is more "dumb signs altered to be awesome"...

(click to show/hide)
Picture isn't working and I can't open the link if I paste it in the browser either.

Hunh...

http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/a09Be2O_700b.jpg

That's the link to the image; is anyone else having this problem?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on July 03, 2014, 02:35:51 am
I can see it just fine here.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on July 03, 2014, 02:38:09 am
No, I still get the same error message. Could be that something is wrong in my end.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 03, 2014, 08:20:57 am
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.

CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION!

CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION!!!!!

How fucking loud do we have to repeat the first goddamn line of the Bill of Rights before it gets to these assholes?

"But Christianity isn't a religion, it's a personal relationship with JEEZUS!"

To quote Old Viking: Atheism isn't a religion, its a relationship with reality.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on July 03, 2014, 08:53:07 am
I see the photos fine. I think you have a glitch, askold.

This pics are hilarious!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Alehksunos on July 03, 2014, 10:12:44 am
Oh wait, I remember now, it's Homophobia Heterosexual Awareness Month! A special month where White Christian sods preach their open homophobia and persecution complex.

If you seriously believe a marriage is between a man and a woman, you are still a bigot. I'm not even sorry.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 03, 2014, 10:19:18 am
Oh wait, I remember now, it's Homophobia Heterosexual Awareness Month! A special month where White Christian sods preach their open homophobia and persecution complex.

If you seriously believe a marriage is between a man and a woman, you are still a bigot. I'm not even sorry.
Yes, because all white Christians are homophobic.  Next time, I'd like you to say "fundie sods", okay?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 03, 2014, 01:48:07 pm
Oh wait, I remember now, it's Homophobia Heterosexual Awareness Month! A special month where White Christian sods preach their open homophobia and persecution complex.

If you seriously believe a marriage is between a man and a woman, you are still a bigot. I'm not even sorry.
Yes, because all white Christians are homophobic.  Next time, I'd like you to say "fundie sods", okay?

He never said all white Christians are homophobic.  He was talking about White Christian sods.  That is, sods that are White Christians.

Stop being so over-sensitive.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 03, 2014, 01:50:44 pm
Oh wait, I remember now, it's Homophobia Heterosexual Awareness Month! A special month where White Christian sods preach their open homophobia and persecution complex.

If you seriously believe a marriage is between a man and a woman, you are still a bigot. I'm not even sorry.
Yes, because all white Christians are homophobic.  Next time, I'd like you to say "fundie sods", okay?

He never said all white Christians are homophobic.  He was talking about White Christian sods.  That is, sods that are White Christians.

Stop being so over-sensitive.
Sorry.  But his choice of words was a bit... unfortunate.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on July 03, 2014, 02:00:08 pm
Well stop being a White Christian then.

Ironbite-try being Mexican.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 03, 2014, 02:20:10 pm
Well stop being a White Christian then.

Ironbite-try being Mexican.

Join Tumblr and adopt a new identity today!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 03, 2014, 02:24:25 pm
Well stop being a White Christian then.

Ironbite-try being Mexican.

Join Tumblr and adopt a new identity today!
I'm a trans-racial who suffers from automotive bipolarism!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 03, 2014, 02:25:36 pm
Oh wait, I remember now, it's Homophobia Heterosexual Awareness Month! A special month where White Christian sods preach their open homophobia and persecution complex.

If you seriously believe a marriage is between a man and a woman, you are still a bigot. I'm not even sorry.
Yes, because all white Christians are homophobic.  Next time, I'd like you to say "fundie sods", okay?

He never said all white Christians are homophobic.  He was talking about White Christian sods.  That is, sods that are White Christians.

Stop being so over-sensitive.
Sorry.  But his choice of words was a bit... unfortunate.

His choice of words was fine.  Sods was qualifying enough.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 03, 2014, 02:26:59 pm
Oh wait, I remember now, it's Homophobia Heterosexual Awareness Month! A special month where White Christian sods preach their open homophobia and persecution complex.

If you seriously believe a marriage is between a man and a woman, you are still a bigot. I'm not even sorry.
Yes, because all white Christians are homophobic.  Next time, I'd like you to say "fundie sods", okay?

He never said all white Christians are homophobic.  He was talking about White Christian sods.  That is, sods that are White Christians.

Stop being so over-sensitive.
Sorry.  But his choice of words was a bit... unfortunate.

His choice of words was fine.  Sods was qualifying enough.
That word is one of my triggers!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Alehksunos on July 03, 2014, 03:07:52 pm
Okay, I found out that sod originally meant "Sodomite", but it's now a kinder way of saying "idiot" or "bastard". It's quite funny because YHWH demanded the people of Sodom and Gomarrah be eradicated not for "buggery" but for being a bunch of pricks.

Basically, the people in those photoshopped images are pricks themselves. That's the funny thing again.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 03, 2014, 03:12:41 pm
Okay, I found out that sod originally meant "Sodomite", but it's now a kinder way of saying "idiot" or "bastard". It's quite funny because YHWH demanded the people of Sodom and Gomarrah be eradicated not for "buggery" but for being a bunch of pricks.
That is funny.

And the meaning of words changes all the time.  For example, "flaky" used to refer to cokeheads, and a "tyrant" was a leader who came into power through unconventional means.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Eiki-mun on July 03, 2014, 04:20:47 pm
Well stop being a White Christian then.

Ironbite-try being Mexican.

Join Tumblr and adopt a new identity today!
I'm a trans-racial who suffers from automotive bipolarism!

I'm a trans-bipolar person. I'm not bipolar, but I feel like I identify with bipolar people.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 03, 2014, 06:25:13 pm
Well stop being a White Christian then.

Ironbite-try being Mexican.

Join Tumblr and adopt a new identity today!
I'm a trans-racial who suffers from automotive bipolarism!

Automotive bipolarism? Is that where you sometimes turn the wheel left, but sometimes turn right?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 03, 2014, 06:28:23 pm
Well stop being a White Christian then.

Ironbite-try being Mexican.

Join Tumblr and adopt a new identity today!
I'm a trans-racial who suffers from automotive bipolarism!

Automotive bipolarism? Is that where you sometimes turn the wheel left, but sometimes turn right?
No.  It means I sometimes undergo severe personality changes when I drive.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 03, 2014, 08:44:28 pm
Well stop being a White Christian then.

Ironbite-try being Mexican.

Join Tumblr and adopt a new identity today!
I'm a trans-racial who suffers from automotive bipolarism!

Automotive bipolarism? Is that where you sometimes turn the wheel left, but sometimes turn right?
No.  It means I sometimes undergo severe personality changes when I drive.

Oh, I've got like a terminal case of that. That is the absolute worst imaginary mental condition.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 03, 2014, 08:47:23 pm
Well stop being a White Christian then.

Ironbite-try being Mexican.

Join Tumblr and adopt a new identity today!
I'm a trans-racial who suffers from automotive bipolarism!

Automotive bipolarism? Is that where you sometimes turn the wheel left, but sometimes turn right?
No.  It means I sometimes undergo severe personality changes when I drive.

Oh, I've got like a terminal case of that. That is the absolute worst imaginary mental condition.
If only more people understood.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 03, 2014, 09:18:53 pm
UP and Fred are sharing a joke.  UP AND FRED ARE FUCKING BEING LEGITIMATELY FUNNY.  What is this violation of the natural order?!  Has someone checked the temperature in Hell?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 03, 2014, 10:30:06 pm
UP and Fred are sharing a joke.  UP AND FRED ARE FUCKING BEING LEGITIMATELY FUNNY.  What is this violation of the natural order?!  Has someone checked the temperature in Hell?

Oh, it already froze solid when Ironchew and I started agreeing with each other.

I don't think it can freeze anymore.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cloud3514 on July 04, 2014, 01:54:50 am
Well are pigs flying then?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 04, 2014, 12:40:43 pm
UP and Fred are sharing a joke.  UP AND FRED ARE FUCKING BEING LEGITIMATELY FUNNY.  What is this violation of the natural order?!  Has someone checked the temperature in Hell?

Oh, it already froze solid when Ironchew and I started agreeing with each other.

I don't think it can freeze anymore.

So...its hit absolute zero in Hell?  Sweet.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on July 05, 2014, 02:23:17 am
Coming soon to a public school near you:

(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/aeNLEym_700b_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Id82 on July 05, 2014, 06:19:46 pm
Actually it looks like a right angle.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 05, 2014, 06:24:29 pm
Actually it looks like a right angle.
You think the idiots who draft these policies will care?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 06, 2014, 07:36:08 pm
(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/aEw33Px_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 08, 2014, 02:43:40 pm
(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/adNmYyj_700b_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 10, 2014, 04:05:30 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/1dyt0.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on July 11, 2014, 03:58:38 pm
(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/aozbOGe_700b_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Random Gal on July 11, 2014, 04:48:42 pm
(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/adNmYyj_700b_v1.jpg)

That duck is a hypocrite (see paragraph 3). (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mallard#Breeding)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 11, 2014, 09:54:14 pm
(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/adNmYyj_700b_v1.jpg)

That duck is a hypocrite (see paragraph 3). (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mallard#Breeding)
#NotAllDucks
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 12, 2014, 11:22:43 am
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/1zv2ya1.jpg)

Who's the anti-white racist now?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Meshakhad on July 12, 2014, 05:20:37 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/lcAUvC4.png)

New peace plan: guy on the left is now Prime Minister of Israel, guy on the right is Chairman of the Palestinian Authority.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Yla on July 12, 2014, 06:17:18 pm
(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/adNmYyj_700b_v1.jpg[img][/quote][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mallard#Breeding]That duck is a hypocrite (see paragraph 3).[/url][/quote]I'm pretty sure that's the joke of Mallard image macros.[quote author=Ultimate Paragon link=topic=18.msg239710#msg239710 date=1405178563][img]http://oi58.tinypic.com/1zv2ya1.jpg)

Who's the anti-white racist now?
Eh, I'm not impressed.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 12, 2014, 11:20:18 pm
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/791/660/96b.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 13, 2014, 09:40:50 am
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/791/657/a44.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 16, 2014, 09:15:31 am
(http://i40.tinypic.com/25f52x0.jpg)

Thank you for making this, Spuki.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on July 16, 2014, 10:34:23 am
(http://i40.tinypic.com/25f52x0.jpg)

Thank you for making this, Spuki.

You're welcome, my friend. :)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 16, 2014, 11:12:35 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/2zq65i0.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on July 17, 2014, 09:31:59 am
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/2zq65i0.jpg)


BEAUTIFUL!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 17, 2014, 08:06:57 pm
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/15n64np.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on July 18, 2014, 07:23:26 am
Pro-mining lobby LNP senator gets dressed in high-vis mining gear.

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/7/17/1405637016716/f628995e-947a-4c79-9171-7c5af686bb56-620x372.jpeg)

Greens Senator Scott Ludlam responds.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 19, 2014, 10:32:57 am
(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/aqm3xrp_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 20, 2014, 12:08:49 pm
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140318153212-ukraine-kids-protest-irpt-story-top.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 20, 2014, 11:04:08 pm
(http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2014/03/05/ukraine-crimea-protest-5march2014.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 21, 2014, 06:25:26 am
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/2v0zsk2.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 21, 2014, 02:14:07 pm
(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs39/f/2008/322/f/1/Support_Love_by_KeitiLen1716.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 22, 2014, 05:18:14 pm
(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/039/b/7/proposition_8_banner_by_sunset_trails-d4p13b6.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on July 23, 2014, 02:10:51 am
(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/a1A4ebG_700b_v2.jpg)

EDIT:

(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/ab5PP4O_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 23, 2014, 06:22:59 pm
(http://fc09.deviantart.net/images2/i/2004/05/6/3/i_am_gay_.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 25, 2014, 11:01:24 am
(http://metrotimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.1700428!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_804/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lady Evil on July 25, 2014, 01:24:05 pm
I might need some context for the above picture.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 25, 2014, 01:27:57 pm
I might need some context for the above picture.

Detroit shut off water to over 100,000 people.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mythbuster43 on July 25, 2014, 03:58:01 pm
I might need some context for the above picture.

Detroit shut off water to over 100,000 people.

That's about 1/7th of the entire population of Detroit!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 25, 2014, 06:57:43 pm
And here's some more:

(http://newsbcpcol.stb.s-msn.com/amnews/i/aa/68bc3383641ecc3d8443ed4ed1c072/_h512_w910_m6_otrue_lfalse.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on July 25, 2014, 08:35:18 pm
I really find it hard to believe that that many people didn't pay their water bill.

Ironbite-any reason for the shut off?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 25, 2014, 08:41:09 pm
I really find it hard to believe that that many people didn't pay their water bill.

Ironbite-any reason for the shut off?

From what I've heard, it's because Detroit is wanting to switch over to a privatized company to handle the water.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 26, 2014, 10:44:29 am
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/23h0rqb.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on July 26, 2014, 12:05:44 pm
On the bright side, the people are as mad as hell & they're not gonna take it anymore!

They should also demand a return of the motor industry. If the big names are too el cheapo to return then maybe some new blood like the guys like Tesla might set up shop, there.

After all, it IS "The MOTOR City"! Bring back those motors & bring new life to Motown!

There's got to be someway to come up with some sort of arrangement where both Americans & CEOs are happy.

And for CORRUPTCO's trying to kill stuff like Tesla Motors, has it ever occurred to these guys that it better to join than to fight?

I mean, a lot of the world's ills are due to greedy companies. They want money, and anything that may stifle that, like green energy, electric cars, etc. are often squashed.

It never occurs to CEOs that they could just switch to green energy instead of oil. Same for the military hardware companies making sure that there's always a war, switch to auto-making or computers! If Anheuser-Busch can become a furniture company during Prohibition, why can't EXXON, BP or whoever just go Green? LIKE DUH!

It's like they're evil psi-vampire aliens from R'yleth who literally subsist on human suffering! I'll bet the Koch Brothers true form is something like C'thulhu crossed with a Xenomorph dressed in "Old White Human Guy" suits. No wonder David Icke's weirdness gets such traction! That's the Reptilian's reputed main motive....human suffering energy food!

I just can't believe that rich guys that smart & cunning can't just become what they are fighting! "Cut Lex Luthor A Check" indeed!

If a company that makes beer can switch to making nice home furnishings when alcohol turns illegal, why can't the fossil fuel freaks get in on the Green energy trend.....and the "Military-Industrial Complex" get into non-military stuff?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on July 26, 2014, 09:09:47 pm
I wish I could make an engine that runs on naivety.

Ironbite-I could plug you in and I'd be set for life
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on July 27, 2014, 11:34:24 am
Ibby, I know you can be a dick, but... for once, I'm in full agreement with you.  Damn, that's just... *boggles*
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on July 27, 2014, 12:36:08 pm
WHAT?! I just asked a legitimate question! No naivete at all! I just don't understand. If it's all about making lots of money why not just get into the same business you're against?! Why the needless war, pollution & destruction. You can't enjoy you're wealth, coke & whores if you live in a wasteland!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 27, 2014, 03:19:19 pm
It never occurs to CEOs that they could just switch to green energy instead of oil. Same for the military hardware companies making sure that there's always a war, switch to auto-making or computers!

Alternatively, it does occur to them, and they decide that there's more money in oil than in green energy. Or that they have a comparative advantage in making military hardware rather than trying to compete with Microsoft.

Quote
It's like they're evil psi-vampire aliens from R'yleth who literally subsist on human suffering!

People rarely do evil because they are intrinsically evil and just enjoy drinking your tears. Is it so crazy to imagine that they might just not care too much about human suffering in one way or the other and they just want to make a lot of money?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Svata on July 27, 2014, 03:30:32 pm
WHAT?! I just asked a legitimate question! No naivete at all! I just don't understand. If it's all about making lots of money why not just get into the same business you're against?! Why the needless war, pollution & destruction. You can't enjoy you're wealth, coke & whores if you live in a wasteland!

Two reasons.
1. They still make MORE money this way.
2. (They think) the world won't be that bad until after they're dead, so, fuck you, got mine.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Canadian Mojo on July 27, 2014, 07:19:34 pm
WHAT?! I just asked a legitimate question! No naivete at all! I just don't understand. If it's all about making lots of money why not just get into the same business you're against?! Why the needless war, pollution & destruction. You can't enjoy you're wealth, coke & whores if you live in a wasteland!

Two reasons.
1. They still make MORE money this way.
2. (They think) the world won't be that bad until after they're dead, so, fuck you, got mine.

It's often just a lot more mundane than that. These people are are involved in old well established businesses that have been doing things one way for an incredibly long time. They are not young adventurers, they are very careful, conservative people who have figured out a way to do things that works and it is only natural that they are going to do what they can to keep themselves in their comfort zone. To make matters worse, they tend to surround themselves with people who think like they do so the entire organization thinks one way which makes it even more resistant to change.

Green energy is a new scary unknown that they don't know how to deal with. They would have to learn an entirely new system, and, very importantly, they would have to play catch-up with organizations that are already experts in the field. Not only do they not know how to do this due to the nature of the organizations, but a good conservative tactician will not engage in a reckless head to head confrontation with a superior foe unless absolutely forced to so rather than learn and hope for the best they go with what they are good at.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 27, 2014, 07:26:08 pm
WHAT?! I just asked a legitimate question! No naivete at all! I just don't understand. If it's all about making lots of money why not just get into the same business you're against?! Why the needless war, pollution & destruction. You can't enjoy you're wealth, coke & whores if you live in a wasteland!

Two reasons.
1. They still make MORE money this way.
2. (They think) the world won't be that bad until after they're dead, so, fuck you, got mine.

It's often just a lot more mundane than that. These people are are involved in old well established businesses that have been doing things one way for an incredibly long time. They are not young adventurers, they are very careful, conservative people who have figured out a way to do things that works and it is only natural that they are going to do what they can to keep themselves in their comfort zone. To make matters worse, they tend to surround themselves with people who think like they do so the entire organization thinks one way which makes it even more resistant to change.

Green energy is a new scary unknown that they don't know how to deal with. They would have to learn an entirely new system, and, very importantly, they would have to play catch-up with organizations that are already experts in the field. Not only do they not know how to do this due to the nature of the organizations, but a good conservative tactician will not engage in a reckless head to head confrontation with a superior foe unless absolutely forced to so rather than learn and hope for the best they go with what they are good at.
Exactly.  They're stuck in their ways.  But there's a Chinese proverb: "the tree that does not sway with the wind will be toppled".  They'll have to change eventually.  It's either that or oblivion.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on July 27, 2014, 08:52:23 pm
There's also the fact that the Motor City will never get that industry back.  It's far cheaper to go to other countries with laxer labor laws then it is to set up a factory in the US.

Ironbite-this Water nonsense is just not gonna get it back no matter what you think.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on July 30, 2014, 06:35:07 pm
WHAT?! I just asked a legitimate question! No naivete at all! I just don't understand. If it's all about making lots of money why not just get into the same business you're against?! Why the needless war, pollution & destruction. You can't enjoy you're wealth, coke & whores if you live in a wasteland!

Two reasons.
1. They still make MORE money this way.
2. (They think) the world won't be that bad until after they're dead, so, fuck you, got mine.

It's often just a lot more mundane than that. These people are are involved in old well established businesses that have been doing things one way for an incredibly long time. They are not young adventurers, they are very careful, conservative people who have figured out a way to do things that works and it is only natural that they are going to do what they can to keep themselves in their comfort zone. To make matters worse, they tend to surround themselves with people who think like they do so the entire organization thinks one way which makes it even more resistant to change.

Green energy is a new scary unknown that they don't know how to deal with. They would have to learn an entirely new system, and, very importantly, they would have to play catch-up with organizations that are already experts in the field. Not only do they not know how to do this due to the nature of the organizations, but a good conservative tactician will not engage in a reckless head to head confrontation with a superior foe unless absolutely forced to so rather than learn and hope for the best they go with what they are good at.
Exactly.  They're stuck in their ways.  But there's a Chinese proverb: "the tree that does not sway with the wind will be toppled".  They'll have to change eventually.  It's either that or oblivion.

Indeed.

I guess they stick to their present thing because...
A. It works for them, why change?
B. Change is too risky.
C. They want to stand out rather than be like similar competing countries. I guess it makes competition easier.

But I agree with you.....They will have no choice but to change, eventually.


I do have a question. Why is Ironbite always so contrarian? Has Ironbite ever endorsed any hope & positive stuff?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 31, 2014, 07:37:48 am
I don't know.  Maybe I'll ask him.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on July 31, 2014, 10:24:14 am
I do have a question. Why is Ironbite always so contrarian? Has Ironbite ever endorsed any hope & positive stuff?

i thought he was the resident naysayer to keep us all in check?

that, or he's deadpan snarky, because he doesn't seem like a real "doom and gloom" guy like brendan rizzo was, for example.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 31, 2014, 10:38:37 am
I think its part snark and part trying to keep folks on the level.  As the saying goes, too much of a good thing can kill ya.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on July 31, 2014, 10:48:36 am
There's also the fact I'm a cynic and find your blind optimism a bit disturbing.

There's wanting to make sure people have jobs and then there's asserting that an industry will come back because water is being shut off.

Ironbite-you might as well pray because it's doing the same damn thing.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 31, 2014, 01:21:49 pm
You know, in Ancient Rome, a triumphant general had a servant standing behind him, saying "remember you will die".  That kind of reminds me of Ironbite's role.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on July 31, 2014, 02:49:24 pm
You know, in Ancient Rome, a triumphant general had a servant standing behind him, saying "remember you will die".  That kind of reminds me of Ironbite's role.

We should institute a law for something similar, applied to politicians and anyone with the power to set policy in a company. Something like, "Are you sure that's a good idea?" A professional Devil's Advocate.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 31, 2014, 04:31:37 pm
You know, in Ancient Rome, a triumphant general had a servant standing behind him, saying "remember you will die".  That kind of reminds me of Ironbite's role.

We should institute a law for something similar, applied to politicians and anyone with the power to set policy in a company. Something like, "Are you sure that's a good idea?" A professional Devil's Advocate.
I think that would be a good idea.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on July 31, 2014, 07:22:27 pm
True. That said, I still believe in hope & humanity's better half.

But I agree with a "Devil's Advocate" for authority figures.

As for wee peons like ourselves, we need all the more we can get.

Also, I doubt the water protests will get the automotive companies back but it might start something.

I'm not sure but I'm hopeful.

Well, we'll vote the wingnuts out of office this Fall then PRESSURE them to to bring back manufacturing to America. They don't need to neglect India, China, etc. In fact, having more manufacturing in both the U.S. & those other countries would mean MORE money, wouldn't it? Why should it be "either or"?

There should be HUGE taxes for outsourcing. Or an amendment or act that states that if a company expands to other countries, they are not to close down the home branch! There must be some manufacturing here! If the CEOs are too el cheapo to pay the extra money for regulations & decent pay then they should be FORCED TOO!

We need an amendment to keep plants open here! I can't see why they can't just be open here & in other countries. More plants mean more money made!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 31, 2014, 07:52:52 pm
True. That said, I still believe in hope & humanity's better half.

But I agree with a "Devil's Advocate" for authority figures.

As for wee peons like ourselves, we need all the more we can get.

Also, I doubt the water protests will get the automotive companies back but it might start something.

I'm not sure but I'm hopeful.

Well, we'll vote the wingnuts out of office this Fall then PRESSURE them to to bring back manufacturing to America. They don't need to neglect India, China, etc. In fact, having more manufacturing in both the U.S. & those other countries would mean MORE money, wouldn't it? Why should it be "either or"?

There should be HUGE taxes for outsourcing. Or an amendment or act that states that if a company expands to other countries, they are not to close down the home branch! There must be some manufacturing here! If the CEOs are too el cheapo to pay the extra money for regulations & decent pay then they should be FORCED TOO!

We need an amendment to keep plants open here! I can't see why they can't just be open here & in other countries. More plants mean more money made!
Unfortunately, all too many in the current business class seem to be too focused on the short-term.  That, and the fact that they only care about lining their pockets.  Say what you will about the 19th Century robber barons, but at least they were genuinely invested in their businesses.  These guys, however, seem only concerned with enriching themselves as much as possible, and if their businesses collapse, they can just lazily drift to the ground on their golden parachutes.

Of course, not all businesspeople are like this.  Look at Warren Buffet, or W. Craig Jelinek.  But there seems to be a depressingly large number of businesspeople who took all the wrong lessons from Oliver Stone's Wall Street.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on July 31, 2014, 08:23:05 pm
True. That said, I still believe in hope & humanity's better half.

But I agree with a "Devil's Advocate" for authority figures.

As for wee peons like ourselves, we need all the more we can get.

Also, I doubt the water protests will get the automotive companies back but it might start something.

I'm not sure but I'm hopeful.

Well, we'll vote the wingnuts out of office this Fall then PRESSURE them to to bring back manufacturing to America. They don't need to neglect India, China, etc. In fact, having more manufacturing in both the U.S. & those other countries would mean MORE money, wouldn't it? Why should it be "either or"?

There should be HUGE taxes for outsourcing. Or an amendment or act that states that if a company expands to other countries, they are not to close down the home branch! There must be some manufacturing here! If the CEOs are too el cheapo to pay the extra money for regulations & decent pay then they should be FORCED TOO!

We need an amendment to keep plants open here! I can't see why they can't just be open here & in other countries. More plants mean more money made!
Unfortunately, all too many in the current business class seem to be too focused on the short-term.  That, and the fact that they only care about lining their pockets.  Say what you will about the 19th Century robber barons, but at least they were genuinely invested in their businesses.  These guys, however, seem only concerned with enriching themselves as much as possible, and if their businesses collapse, they can just lazily drift to the ground on their golden parachutes.

Of course, not all businesspeople are like this.  Look at Warren Buffet, or W. Craig Jelinek.  But there seems to be a depressingly large number of businesspeople who took all the wrong lessons from Oliver Stone's Wall Street.

There needs to be a counter "Wall Street". One with a "Gordon Gecko" character who's uncool through & through and who fails miserably along with an "anti-Gecko" who's pure cool & is able to shrewdly surf the waves of the business world without being a psychopath.

I think the saying "Power Corrupts" is a poisonous saying that does more harm than good. It prevents good ethical people from seeking positions of wealth, power & influence.....things one needs in this day to make stuff happen. We need the enlightened on both "Powerful" & "Little Guy" fronts. However, people don't seek power, wealth & influence because they feel they will suddenly turn into pure evil. Frankly, for someone to be corrupted, they need to have had those tendencies deep within to begin with.

No, the saying SHOULD be "Power corrupts...but only if you let it".

And if the system won't change, start your own! I can't see why people can't start their own comic book/movie studio/music production company/etc. You'll be amazed what a bit of finesse, creativity, some software, the internet, fundraising, etc. can do.

Where there's a will, there's a way & traditional channel's aren't the only way to go.

The Digital/Cyber path is the future!

Most regressive are old & will die out soon.

Each generation is generally more progressive than the last.

This latest explosion of reactionaries will eventually die out....in fact it's a sign that progressivism is WORKING! It's like a medicated zit that explodes before it disappears. The backwards gunk is coming to a head so it can be wiped out.

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 31, 2014, 08:27:07 pm
True. That said, I still believe in hope & humanity's better half.

But I agree with a "Devil's Advocate" for authority figures.

As for wee peons like ourselves, we need all the more we can get.

Also, I doubt the water protests will get the automotive companies back but it might start something.

I'm not sure but I'm hopeful.

Well, we'll vote the wingnuts out of office this Fall then PRESSURE them to to bring back manufacturing to America. They don't need to neglect India, China, etc. In fact, having more manufacturing in both the U.S. & those other countries would mean MORE money, wouldn't it? Why should it be "either or"?

There should be HUGE taxes for outsourcing. Or an amendment or act that states that if a company expands to other countries, they are not to close down the home branch! There must be some manufacturing here! If the CEOs are too el cheapo to pay the extra money for regulations & decent pay then they should be FORCED TOO!

We need an amendment to keep plants open here! I can't see why they can't just be open here & in other countries. More plants mean more money made!
Unfortunately, all too many in the current business class seem to be too focused on the short-term.  That, and the fact that they only care about lining their pockets.  Say what you will about the 19th Century robber barons, but at least they were genuinely invested in their businesses.  These guys, however, seem only concerned with enriching themselves as much as possible, and if their businesses collapse, they can just lazily drift to the ground on their golden parachutes.

Of course, not all businesspeople are like this.  Look at Warren Buffet, or W. Craig Jelinek.  But there seems to be a depressingly large number of businesspeople who took all the wrong lessons from Oliver Stone's Wall Street.

There needs to be a counter "Wall Street". One with a "Gordon Gecko" character who's uncool through & through and who fails miserably along with an "anti-Gecko" who's pure cool & is able to shrewdly surf the waves of the business world without being a psychopath.

I think the saying "Power Corrupts" is a poisonous saying that does more harm than good. It prevents good ethical people from seeking positions of wealth, power & influence.....things one needs in this day to make stuff happen. We need the enlightened on both "Powerful" & "Little Guy" fronts. However, people don't seek power, wealth & influence because they feel they will suddenly turn into pure evil. Frankly, for someone to be corrupted, they need to have had those tendencies deep within to begin with.

No, the saying SHOULD be "Power corrupts...but only if you let it".

And if the system won't change, start your own! I can't see why people can't start their own comic book/movie studio/music production company/etc. You'll be amazed what a bit of finesse, creativity, some software, the internet, fundraising, etc. can do.

Where there's a will, there's a way & traditional channel's aren't the only way to go.

The Digital/Cyber path is the future!

Most regressive are old & will die out soon.

Each generation is generally more progressive than the last.

This latest explosion of reactionaries will eventually die out....in fact it's a sign that progressivism is WORKING! It's like a medicated zit that explodes before it disappears. The backwards gunk is coming to a head so it can be wiped out.
I'm starting to think this explosion of regressivism is like a snake in its death throes.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on July 31, 2014, 08:31:48 pm
True. That said, I still believe in hope & humanity's better half.

But I agree with a "Devil's Advocate" for authority figures.

As for wee peons like ourselves, we need all the more we can get.

Also, I doubt the water protests will get the automotive companies back but it might start something.

I'm not sure but I'm hopeful.

Well, we'll vote the wingnuts out of office this Fall then PRESSURE them to to bring back manufacturing to America. They don't need to neglect India, China, etc. In fact, having more manufacturing in both the U.S. & those other countries would mean MORE money, wouldn't it? Why should it be "either or"?

There should be HUGE taxes for outsourcing. Or an amendment or act that states that if a company expands to other countries, they are not to close down the home branch! There must be some manufacturing here! If the CEOs are too el cheapo to pay the extra money for regulations & decent pay then they should be FORCED TOO!

We need an amendment to keep plants open here! I can't see why they can't just be open here & in other countries. More plants mean more money made!
Unfortunately, all too many in the current business class seem to be too focused on the short-term.  That, and the fact that they only care about lining their pockets.  Say what you will about the 19th Century robber barons, but at least they were genuinely invested in their businesses.  These guys, however, seem only concerned with enriching themselves as much as possible, and if their businesses collapse, they can just lazily drift to the ground on their golden parachutes.

Of course, not all businesspeople are like this.  Look at Warren Buffet, or W. Craig Jelinek.  But there seems to be a depressingly large number of businesspeople who took all the wrong lessons from Oliver Stone's Wall Street.

There needs to be a counter "Wall Street". One with a "Gordon Gecko" character who's uncool through & through and who fails miserably along with an "anti-Gecko" who's pure cool & is able to shrewdly surf the waves of the business world without being a psychopath.

I think the saying "Power Corrupts" is a poisonous saying that does more harm than good. It prevents good ethical people from seeking positions of wealth, power & influence.....things one needs in this day to make stuff happen. We need the enlightened on both "Powerful" & "Little Guy" fronts. However, people don't seek power, wealth & influence because they feel they will suddenly turn into pure evil. Frankly, for someone to be corrupted, they need to have had those tendencies deep within to begin with.

No, the saying SHOULD be "Power corrupts...but only if you let it".

And if the system won't change, start your own! I can't see why people can't start their own comic book/movie studio/music production company/etc. You'll be amazed what a bit of finesse, creativity, some software, the internet, fundraising, etc. can do.

Where there's a will, there's a way & traditional channel's aren't the only way to go.

The Digital/Cyber path is the future!

Most regressive are old & will die out soon.

Each generation is generally more progressive than the last.

This latest explosion of reactionaries will eventually die out....in fact it's a sign that progressivism is WORKING! It's like a medicated zit that explodes before it disappears. The backwards gunk is coming to a head so it can be wiped out.
I'm starting to think this explosion of regressivism is like a snake in its death throes.

Yeah. It's lashing out before it croaks....but it will croak!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 01, 2014, 12:07:18 pm
(http://www.justinwedes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/photo-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 04, 2014, 10:32:48 am
(http://cbsdetroit.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/protest-sign.jpg?w=420&h=315)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Svata on August 04, 2014, 09:04:28 pm
Context?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 04, 2014, 09:10:26 pm
Context?
It's about Detroit's water shutoffs.  Those affected are asking for help from others.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on August 05, 2014, 12:32:20 am
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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on August 07, 2014, 11:46:12 am
(http://www.justinwedes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/photo-5.jpg)

Daddies can't cook without water either, although in fairness this may be adding needless complexity to the immediate argument.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Eiki-mun on August 07, 2014, 12:45:38 pm
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Daddies can't cook without water either, although in fairness this may be adding needless complexity to the immediate argument.

Let's be fair, though. What she said is, by all rights, true. Mothers cannot cook without water. The fact that fathers also cannot cook without water is unrelated to her statement.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 07, 2014, 02:11:14 pm
(http://www.justinwedes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/photo-5.jpg)

Daddies can't cook without water either, although in fairness this may be adding needless complexity to the immediate argument.

Let's be fair, though. What she said is, by all rights, true. Mothers cannot cook without water. The fact that fathers also cannot cook without water is unrelated to her statement.
Exactly.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 08, 2014, 12:49:28 pm
(http://www.iranreview.org/file/cms/files/jamshidiha20101005071115560.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 18, 2014, 03:58:20 pm
(http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/AFP_Getty_AFP-A-demonstrator-holds-a-sign-along-West-Florissant-Avenue-to-protest-the-shooting-death-of-Michael-Brown-in-Ferguson-Missouri-on-August-14-2014.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on August 19, 2014, 03:12:18 pm
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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lady Evil on August 20, 2014, 03:50:29 pm
Wait, if the can's empty, it's not technically a can of Slurp Cola because there's no Slurp Cola in it.

I'm probably being to literal again.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Alehksunos on August 20, 2014, 04:25:39 pm
I was confused at the message, then I remembered it was Cataclysm, so nevermind...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on August 20, 2014, 06:58:05 pm
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You do get the fact that that Civil Protection guy can kill you if you don't pick up the fucking can, right?

Also, you're a dipshit.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Skybison on August 21, 2014, 02:08:04 am
I never liked that Ben Franklin quote.  What's so bad about preferring safety to freedom?  Isn't it kind of contradictory to say you have to pick freedom over safety or you don't deserve either?  "Everyone should be free to pick what they want, but you have to pick what I want you to pick."  Yeah yeah I know that plenty of people make up threats to justify limiting others freedom, but if a genuine conflict does exist there's nothing wrong with saying "I'd rather be alive then free."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on August 21, 2014, 04:04:36 am
Am I seeing a different picture or did you guys understand the picture from Cataclysm completely differently?

That is basically a parody of what the Libertards are saying. They complain about any power the goverment has (taxation=slavery claim is something that really makes me furious) but would allow corporations to have the same powers.

They want companies to be allowed to exploit workers (because if you work for company X then you should obey their rules or hit the road) and have total freedom from laws (some make exception for property laws or something I think) but bitch when goverments have any power over companies (because if you put your company in country X then you should obey their laws or hit the road or face punishment.)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on August 21, 2014, 08:16:21 pm
I never liked that Ben Franklin quote.  What's so bad about preferring safety to freedom?  Isn't it kind of contradictory to say you have to pick freedom over safety or you don't deserve either?  "Everyone should be free to pick what they want, but you have to pick what I want you to pick."  Yeah yeah I know that plenty of people make up threats to justify limiting others freedom, but if a genuine conflict does exist there's nothing wrong with saying "I'd rather be alive then free."

Worth noting: the original quote is "essential liberty for a little temporary safety". The qualifiers are important.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on August 22, 2014, 12:20:32 am
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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on August 22, 2014, 01:02:24 am
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Just one of many reasons I've been wanting to move to Northern Europe for a while now. Would our resident Finn care to disillusion me of the no-doubt rose-colored view I currently have?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sylvana on August 22, 2014, 02:37:23 am
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Just one of many reasons I've been wanting to move to Northern Europe for a while now. Would our resident Finn care to disillusion me of the no-doubt rose-colored view I currently have?

I don't know about you but from what I have seen the only reason not to live in the nordic countries is because they are covered in ice all the time. but from what I know, they are superior in every social regard. Although like most socially powerful countries they take a rather dim view on immigrants. But who knows, if you are at least the right colour you might not even get straightforward racism against you.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on August 22, 2014, 03:01:38 am
Am I seeing a different picture or did you guys understand the picture from Cataclysm completely differently?

That is basically a parody of what the Libertards are saying. They complain about any power the goverment has (taxation=slavery claim is something that really makes me furious) but would allow corporations to have the same powers.

They want companies to be allowed to exploit workers (because if you work for company X then you should obey their rules or hit the road) and have total freedom from laws (some make exception for property laws or something I think) but bitch when goverments have any power over companies (because if you put your company in country X then you should obey their laws or hit the road or face punishment.)

INCOMING PRETENSION! BRACE FOR COVER!

While the man-god worshipers in the party may think that, the ones like me have little to no opposition to regulation. After all, the free market hallowed be it's name needs to policed in order to keep it fair for everyone.

Thus, I have no opposition as a Libertarian philosophe to regulation.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on August 22, 2014, 04:01:41 am
Am I seeing a different picture or did you guys understand the picture from Cataclysm completely differently?

That is basically a parody of what the Libertards are saying. They complain about any power the goverment has (taxation=slavery claim is something that really makes me furious) but would allow corporations to have the same powers.

They want companies to be allowed to exploit workers (because if you work for company X then you should obey their rules or hit the road) and have total freedom from laws (some make exception for property laws or something I think) but bitch when goverments have any power over companies (because if you put your company in country X then you should obey their laws or hit the road or face punishment.)

INCOMING PRETENSION! BRACE FOR COVER!

While the man-god worshipers in the party may think that, the ones like me have little to no opposition to regulation. After all, the free market hallowed be it's name needs to policed in order to keep it fair for everyone.

Thus, I have no opposition as a Libertarian philosophe to regulation.
#NotAllLibertarians
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on August 22, 2014, 04:09:13 am
Am I seeing a different picture or did you guys understand the picture from Cataclysm completely differently?

That is basically a parody of what the Libertards are saying. They complain about any power the goverment has (taxation=slavery claim is something that really makes me furious) but would allow corporations to have the same powers.

They want companies to be allowed to exploit workers (because if you work for company X then you should obey their rules or hit the road) and have total freedom from laws (some make exception for property laws or something I think) but bitch when goverments have any power over companies (because if you put your company in country X then you should obey their laws or hit the road or face punishment.)

INCOMING PRETENSION! BRACE FOR COVER!

While the man-god worshipers in the party may think that, the ones like me have little to no opposition to regulation. After all, the free market hallowed be it's name needs to policed in order to keep it fair for everyone.

Thus, I have no opposition as a Libertarian philosophe to regulation.
#NotAllLibertarians

Says the one who has to pay taxes to the Protestants every quarter.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on August 22, 2014, 04:24:17 am
Am I seeing a different picture or did you guys understand the picture from Cataclysm completely differently?

That is basically a parody of what the Libertards are saying. They complain about any power the goverment has (taxation=slavery claim is something that really makes me furious) but would allow corporations to have the same powers.

They want companies to be allowed to exploit workers (because if you work for company X then you should obey their rules or hit the road) and have total freedom from laws (some make exception for property laws or something I think) but bitch when goverments have any power over companies (because if you put your company in country X then you should obey their laws or hit the road or face punishment.)

INCOMING PRETENSION! BRACE FOR COVER!

While the man-god worshipers in the party may think that, the ones like me have little to no opposition to regulation. After all, the free market hallowed be it's name needs to policed in order to keep it fair for everyone.

Thus, I have no opposition as a Libertarian philosophe to regulation.
#NotAllLibertarians

Says the one who has to pay taxes to the Protestants every quarter.

You only have to pay that tax if you are a member of the Lutheran church, my wife for example is a wiccan so she does not have pay that tax, so it is a voluntary tax.

Hah!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Vypernight on August 22, 2014, 04:58:05 am


I don't know about you but from what I have seen the only reason not to live in the nordic countries is because they are covered in ice all the time.

So what exactly is the bad part?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Svata on August 22, 2014, 05:14:47 am
Seriously. At least its consistent year-round. Unlike Georgia, where in the summer its 90°F+ every day, and so humid I'm suprised people aren't drowning on the air, but it gets down to the low 20s in the winter on a semi-regular basis. And its still humid.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on August 22, 2014, 05:56:44 am
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Just one of many reasons I've been wanting to move to Northern Europe for a while now. Would our resident Finn care to disillusion me of the no-doubt rose-colored view I currently have?

Lets see...

-Finns may seem distant and rude due to small talk not being customary here.

-Food is rather expensive when compared to other EU countries.

-There are silly laws against the sale of alcoholic beverages from distilleries which means that small breweries are not allowed to sell most of their own products and they need to be sold through other companies. (We are trying to change this)

-There aren't that many REALLY old buildings. We used to make most buildings out of wood so the only old ones that have remained are mainly churches or the few castles we have. (since those were more commonly built from stone.)

-The newer buildings in cities are ugly gray blocks straight from East Germany.

-Our gun laws are really strict. You actually need a license for all functional firearms (apart from black powder firearms that were built before 1860 I think? And that is ONLY if you promise not to fire the gun and it is just a memento. If you want to use it you need a license) and to get a license you need to pass a doctors exam to prove that you aren't mentally unstable AND need to prove an acceptable reason for owning that firearm. Repeat the process for every single gun and prepare to prove that you have been using those guns frequently.

-Alcoholism and depression are quite common.

-At some point our MAJESTIC LAKES and CLEAN ENVIROMENT begin to seem so normal that you start to take them as granted.

-We believe that we are overburdened by bureucracy if we haven't tried to live in Germany.

-Finland is the only Nordic country that has not legalized same-sex marriage yet.

-We cook our meat rather than eat it raw. (This seems to be a sign of HERESY to the yankees.)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on August 22, 2014, 05:59:04 am
Seriously. At least its consistent year-round. Unlike Georgia, where in the summer its 90°F+ every day, and so humid I'm suprised people aren't drowning on the air, but it gets down to the low 20s in the winter on a semi-regular basis. And its still humid.
...Umm no.

Finland can have temperatures as high as +30°C during summer or as low as  -30°C per winter. The temperature variation is really big.

Which is a good thing in my mind. We actually get four separate seasons rather than "slightly warmer vs sligthly colder" or "warm and dry vs warm and rainy" etc.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: starseeker on August 22, 2014, 06:04:50 am
Seriously. At least its consistent year-round. Unlike Georgia, where in the summer its 90°F+ every day, and so humid I'm suprised people aren't drowning on the air, but it gets down to the low 20s in the winter on a semi-regular basis. And its still humid.
...Umm no.

Finland can have temperatures as high as +30°C during summer or as low as  -30°C per winter. The temperature variation is really big.

Which is a good thing in my mind. We actually get four separate seasons rather than "slightly warmer vs sligthly colder" or "warm and dry vs warm and rainy" etc.

If you want mild but can rain any time of year, try the UK. We're not as cool as the nordic countries but we still look at the US and think you're bloody mad on how you treat your citizens.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Svata on August 22, 2014, 07:16:06 am
Seriously. At least its consistent year-round. Unlike Georgia, where in the summer its 90°F+ every day, and so humid I'm suprised people aren't drowning on the air, but it gets down to the low 20s in the winter on a semi-regular basis. And its still humid.
...Umm no.

Finland can have temperatures as high as +30°C during summer or as low as  -30°C per winter. The temperature variation is really big.

Which is a good thing in my mind. We actually get four separate seasons rather than "slightly warmer vs sligthly colder" or "warm and dry vs warm and rainy" etc.

Fair enough. My mistake. I'm just in a bad mood because I found out I'm get to work outside today. Why is that bad? I just saw today's weather report. After factoring in humidity, it is going to feel like its 103°F+. For those of you who were lucky enough to be raised on the metric system, let me explain. If you have a fever that high, you need to go to the fucking hospital.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Art Vandelay on August 22, 2014, 07:31:04 am
-Finns may seem distant and rude due to small talk not being customary here.
Oh man, that sounds like a dream come true. There are few things I find more tedious than small talk.

Exactly how difficult is Finnish to learn for an English native speaker? Because assuming Finland is part of the EU (and I'm pretty sure it is), I'm now extremely temped to move there.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on August 22, 2014, 07:51:09 am
-Finns may seem distant and rude due to small talk not being customary here.
Oh man, that sounds like a dream come true. There are few things I find more tedious than small talk.

Exactly how difficult is Finnish to learn for an English native speaker? Because assuming Finland is part of the EU (and I'm pretty sure it is), I'm now extremely temped to move there.

Well, Finland is in EU but as for the language...

It really is really, really hard to learn. But you can get along with english language most of the time.


Oooh, one more thing: We use Euro as a currency but do not put any 1 or 2 cent coins into circulation since we thought those are so worthless. If you pay with cash we will round it up or down to the nearest 5 cent, but you can pay the exact sum if you use a credit/debit card or if you happen to have those 1 or 2 cent coins. The shops just don't give them as change.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 22, 2014, 08:35:26 am
I think the main problem with higher education is that it's a necessity the establishment treats like a luxury.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 22, 2014, 12:46:53 pm
-We cook our meat rather than eat it raw. (This seems to be a sign of HERESY to the yankees.)

I was born and raised in the South, and yet I cringe every time someone orders a steak rare.  I know its technically safe, but I always order my beef, at minimum, medium or medium-well.  I don't mind consuming my own blood, since I had frequent nose bleeds as a child and am quite familiar with how my blood tastes, but the blood (or blood-looking fluid) of other critters?  I'll pass, thank you.  You can decry it as "carbonized" all you want, but when the prions come a-knocking, they'll be turning your brains into sponges, and not mine.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SCarpelan on August 22, 2014, 12:50:06 pm
Re: Finland

Also, on the more serious note it's not certain that the Nordic welfare state model will survive here in the long term. Economical conservatism has gained popularity and the politicians have started embracing the more neo-liberal economical ideas. Inequality is growing and with it the envy and bitterness that's unfortunately targeted towards "welfare bums" and specially immigrants. The whole society is undergoing a structural change that is caused by the aging population and urbanization in addition to the usual changes caused by globalization and technological advances.

Don't be too afraid of the language, though. The basics are notoriously difficult to learn but after you have internalized the basics the more advanced stuff is actually pretty easy. The language is very consistent with very few exceptions to the rules.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on August 22, 2014, 01:27:11 pm
-We cook our meat rather than eat it raw. (This seems to be a sign of HERESY to the yankees.)

I was born and raised in the South, and yet I cringe every time someone orders a steak rare.  I know its technically safe, but I always order my beef, at minimum, medium or medium-well.  I don't mind consuming my own blood, since I had frequent nose bleeds as a child and am quite familiar with how my blood tastes, but the blood (or blood-looking fluid) of other critters?  I'll pass, thank you.  You can decry it as "carbonized" all you want, but when the prions come a-knocking, they'll be turning your brains into sponges, and not mine.
I will drink the blood of my prey, drinking the blood of the animal that YOU personally hunted and killed is a tradition.

Cooking meat is ALSO A TRADITION. Yea, I also know that with proper hygienic handling and safety measures raw steaks aren't dangerous but I just prefer well cooked meat anyway. And the traditional cuisines have the meat well cooked. AND it is safer just in case somewhere down the line something went wrong with the hygienie or something.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 22, 2014, 01:31:58 pm
-We cook our meat rather than eat it raw. (This seems to be a sign of HERESY to the yankees.)

I was born and raised in the South, and yet I cringe every time someone orders a steak rare.  I know its technically safe, but I always order my beef, at minimum, medium or medium-well.  I don't mind consuming my own blood, since I had frequent nose bleeds as a child and am quite familiar with how my blood tastes, but the blood (or blood-looking fluid) of other critters?  I'll pass, thank you.  You can decry it as "carbonized" all you want, but when the prions come a-knocking, they'll be turning your brains into sponges, and not mine.
I will drink the blood of my prey, drinking the blood of the animal that YOU personally hunted and killed is a tradition.

Cooking meat is ALSO A TRADITION. Yea, I also know that with proper hygienic handling and safety measures raw steaks aren't dangerous but I just prefer well cooked meat anyway. And the traditional cuisines have the meat well cooked. AND it is safer just in case somewhere down the line something went wrong with the hygienie or something.

Eeeeexcatly.  After the number of rather serious fuck-ups in that particular industry, I'm more than a little leery of just blindly accepting that all hygienic practices were followed in the production of the meat I consume.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 22, 2014, 04:37:09 pm
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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 23, 2014, 07:40:12 pm
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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 25, 2014, 08:28:27 am
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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on August 25, 2014, 09:11:57 am
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S.H.A.R.P.'s are some of the most compassionnate people around. My only quibble with them is trying to beat compassion into opposing factions. Toulouse has a very big S.H.A.R.P. population comparatively (around 60% of toulousan skinheads are either that or red and anarchist skinheads, or R.A.S.H for short). However, some clashes between them and boneheads (extreme right wing) have become city legend where they actually started a free for all in a bar and one of them walked out with a ceiling beam.

I talked to one of their lieutenants in toulouse and the guy and I had a friendly disagreement. I'd rather teach people to learn to live together, whereas for him violence is the first option when in front of a bonehead. He had a short fuse but did understand where I was coming from. We left feeling satisfied by a proper discussion, him back to beating up extremists and me back to learning about conflicts between political extremists in the 1960's (I love cultural history, especially with a great teacher).
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 25, 2014, 09:45:25 am
Not to shit on a good thing, but...am I the only one that saw the flag on the left there and immediately thought "that's one MASSIVE condom?"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on August 25, 2014, 11:11:42 am
Not to shit on a good thing, but...am I the only one that saw the flag on the left there and immediately thought "that's one MASSIVE condom?"

you know trojans. Little guys in a disguise. I think that's why they adopted that symbol: passing as boneheads to better smack them, but that's pure speculation on my part. Still funny, though.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on August 25, 2014, 11:20:38 am
Not to shit on a good thing, but...am I the only one that saw the flag on the left there and immediately thought "that's one MASSIVE condom?"

you know trojans. Little guys in a disguise. I think that's why they adopted that symbol: passing as boneheads to better smack them, but that's pure speculation on my part. Still funny, though.
Trojans weren't the ones inside the wooden horse.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on August 25, 2014, 01:00:40 pm
Not to shit on a good thing, but...am I the only one that saw the flag on the left there and immediately thought "that's one MASSIVE condom?"

you know trojans. Little guys in a disguise. I think that's why they adopted that symbol: passing as boneheads to better smack them, but that's pure speculation on my part. Still funny, though.
Trojans weren't the ones inside the wooden horse.

I know, but for all intents and purposes, the rest of the world thinks so. I was also paraphrasing the Trojan brand unofficial slogan and their fridge logic inducing name. And if we want to get pedantic, it's not even a trojan helmet, but a lacedemonian one. Nowadays, however, who cares about details? [/sad snark]
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 25, 2014, 03:09:43 pm
While we're on the subject, let's talk about Ramses condoms.  Who the hell names a birth control device after a guy who had over a hundred kids?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 25, 2014, 03:43:24 pm
While we're on the subject, let's talk about Ramses condoms.  Who the hell names a birth control device after a guy who had over a hundred kids?

Because people in charge of naming things don't get that there's a time and place for irony.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on August 25, 2014, 11:51:39 pm
Not to shit on a good thing, but...am I the only one that saw the flag on the left there and immediately thought "that's one MASSIVE condom?"

you know trojans. Little guys in a disguise. I think that's why they adopted that symbol: passing as boneheads to better smack them, but that's pure speculation on my part. Still funny, though.
Trojans weren't the ones inside the wooden horse.

I know, but for all intents and purposes, the rest of the world thinks so.

...Where do you live and what happened to the education system there?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on August 26, 2014, 06:53:33 am
...Where do you live and what happened to the education system there?

Southern France, where most people take 300 (the first movie) as a historical documentary. As for the education system, well... When you push math, physics, and biology under the guise that growing up to be an engineer is better than anything, you tend to get disastrously low results in subjects like history, french (and all other language courses), and anything cultural. Yeah, it's really too bad.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 26, 2014, 08:54:28 am
...Where do you live and what happened to the education system there?

Southern France, where most people take 300 (the first movie) as a historical documentary. As for the education system, well... When you push math, physics, and biology under the guise that growing up to be an engineer is better than anything, you tend to get disastrously low results in subjects like history, french (and all other language courses), and anything cultural. Yeah, it's really too bad.

Any seasoned Civ player can tell you that sacrificing culture for a purely science-and-tech approach is a bad play.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on August 26, 2014, 09:10:12 am
...Where do you live and what happened to the education system there?

Southern France, where most people take 300 (the first movie) as a historical documentary. As for the education system, well... When you push math, physics, and biology under the guise that growing up to be an engineer is better than anything, you tend to get disastrously low results in subjects like history, french (and all other language courses), and anything cultural. Yeah, it's really too bad.

Any seasoned Civ player can tell you that sacrificing culture for a purely science-and-tech approach is a bad play.

tell that to the Education Nationale, I've even petitioned to augment litteracy and philosophy classes in the scientific baccaulaureates! It's that bad, crying shame is what it is!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 26, 2014, 11:07:35 am
Wait, are you saying they're adding literacy and philosophy into science programs?  I can understand literacy, that's important no matter where ya go, but PHILOSOPHY?  Philosophy is about as close to the exact god damned opposite of science as you can get.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: LeTipex on August 26, 2014, 11:39:43 am
Wait, are you saying they're adding literacy and philosophy into science programs?  I can understand literacy, that's important no matter where ya go, but PHILOSOPHY?  Philosophy is about as close to the exact god damned opposite of science as you can get.
You have mandatory philosophy classes to pass to get your baccalaureat (if you're in one of the "main" path, those being scientific, litterary or social-eco). I for one consider that a good thing, even though it's not always handled well.

Also, I completely disagree on philosophy being the exact opposite of science ^^. (Then again, I do have a master's degree in philoshopy and one in engineering, so I may be biased...)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SCarpelan on August 26, 2014, 11:40:18 am
Wait, are you saying they're adding literacy and philosophy into science programs?  I can understand literacy, that's important no matter where ya go, but PHILOSOPHY?  Philosophy is about as close to the exact god damned opposite of science as you can get.
I can very well see how understanding for example epistemology and formal logic are useful to a scientist (or anyone for that matter).
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 26, 2014, 02:02:34 pm
Apologies, I must've misunderstood.  When I hear "philosophy," I don't think science, I think navel gazing.  Also, formal logic?  Unless that's some special sort of logic I'm not aware of, the basics are usually covered in high school Algebra II courses and pretty much any science class you'd want to take.  I...really don't understand why you'd need a college course, let alone a philosophy course, to teach you the rudiments of logic.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on August 26, 2014, 05:26:15 pm
Personally, I learned nothing of logic from the math classes I took in school. That probably represents a failing on my part as much as anything else, but I could never find anything to connect any math higher than arithmetic to real life, so... *shrug*

Also, you'd be amazed how many people have absolutely no understanding of logic. That's why we see so many people trying to logically prove the existence of God, and even more lapping it up.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 26, 2014, 05:34:09 pm
Apologies, I must've misunderstood.  When I hear "philosophy," I don't think science, I think navel gazing.  Also, formal logic?  Unless that's some special sort of logic I'm not aware of, the basics are usually covered in high school Algebra II courses and pretty much any science class you'd want to take.  I...really don't understand why you'd need a college course, let alone a philosophy course, to teach you the rudiments of logic.

When I think of philosophy, I tend to think more along the lines of a "method of thought", but I'm probably wrong on this, aren't I?

As for philosophy classes, never took one, so I have no clue what they entail.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ironchew on August 26, 2014, 06:36:23 pm
Wait, are you saying they're adding literacy and philosophy into science programs?  I can understand literacy, that's important no matter where ya go, but PHILOSOPHY?  Philosophy is about as close to the exact god damned opposite of science as you can get.

The scientific method is a branch of philosophy. If you don't understand the philosophical underpinnings of things like, say, methodological naturalism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalism_%28philosophy%29#Methodological_naturalism), materialism, and empiricism, you won't quite get what separates good science from cargo cult pseudoscience.

Apologies, I must've misunderstood.  When I hear "philosophy," I don't think science, I think navel gazing.  Also, formal logic?  Unless that's some special sort of logic I'm not aware of, the basics are usually covered in high school Algebra II courses and pretty much any science class you'd want to take.  I...really don't understand why you'd need a college course, let alone a philosophy course, to teach you the rudiments of logic.

You don't *need* a college course to learn formal logic, but unless you had a math Nazi of an Algebra II instructor, I wouldn't expect most high schoolers (or really anyone except math and philosophy majors) to be writing out formal proofs using the notation of formal logic.

Not all philosophy is postmodern. Most of it has a similar rigor as math.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on August 26, 2014, 09:42:42 pm
Merci Tipex, tu sauve l'honneur pour le coup! Et t'as totalement raison que c'est chiadé pour les bacs S et ES (et je parle même pas des bacs technos!)

Translation: Thanks Tipex, you helped save face on that one. And you're totally right that it's handled badly for the scientific and economic baccalaureates (and don't get me started on the technological/technical baccalaureates!)

@Rayvy: philosophy is seen in France as teaching you different ways of thinking. You get to learn all about positivism, stoicism (a branch I try adhere to), objectivism, primitivism, et caetera ad nauseam. [/gratuitous latin] Yeah, it actually is very useful because a side-effect of this is teaching you how to think on your own.

What's more, you're confusing philosophy with immuable dogma. Philosophy is neither, it is a way to perceive the world.

@ Magus: you're on the dot, actually. It teaches you how others adhering to a current of thought think, thereby helping you forge your own personnal method of thought.

@Sirius: Logic is one aspect of philosophy among others: empathy, altruism, and misanthropy are others. Discordians are a branch of philosophy (before being a religion), and they willingly go against all logic. Yeah, philosophy teaches you counterarguments to help along discourse. Too bad most teenagers go into rage-mode instead of debating.

PS: Litterary baccalaureates FTW.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ironchew on August 26, 2014, 10:07:42 pm
Yeah, philosophy teaches you counterarguments to help along discourse. Too bad most teenagers go into rage-mode instead of debating.

I'm not a fan of the formal debate structure. It's not focused on who's closer to the truth; instead, it's about who presents their argument with more style. This is why we see creationists desperately trying to "destroy" evolution using formal debate -- techniques like the Gish gallop play on cognitive biases and attempt to force the opponent to focus on rapid-fire non-truths and a formal debate does nothing to address this. The only formats I've seen that address the Gish gallop are asymmetrical in nature (e.g. a call-in show) where a hopefully rational host can easily cut off the caller and force them to go one point at a time, not getting to present their whole argument if anything in it is blatantly false.

Science is the best tool we presently have to find the truths of nature, but it's hardly ever a performance art. The evidence and theories needed to overturn a consensus can't be presented in one debate but instead move along at the glacial pace of peer review, figuring out the math, and repeating experiments.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on August 26, 2014, 10:45:28 pm
The obvious counter to the Gish Gallop is the written debate, where you're not expected to rapid-fire answers and you have the time to explain your point carefully, look up evidence, etc.

"Being right" and "convincing people" are in general two separate skills, but the separation is much more pronounced when you are limited to arguments you can explain in five minutes and your best response to contradictory evidence is to take it on the speaker's authority.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on August 26, 2014, 11:01:15 pm
Yeah, philosophy teaches you counterarguments to help along discourse. Too bad most teenagers go into rage-mode instead of debating.

I'm not a fan of the formal debate structure. It's not focused on who's closer to the truth; instead, it's about who presents their argument with more style. This is why we see creationists desperately trying to "destroy" evolution using formal debate -- techniques like the Gish gallop play on cognitive biases and attempt to force the opponent to focus on rapid-fire non-truths and a formal debate does nothing to address this. The only formats I've seen that address the Gish gallop are asymmetrical in nature (e.g. a call-in show) where a hopefully rational host can easily cut off the caller and force them to go one point at a time, not getting to present their whole argument if anything in it is blatantly false.

Science is the best tool we presently have to find the truths of nature, but it's hardly ever a performance art. The evidence and theories needed to overturn a consensus can't be presented in one debate but instead move along at the glacial pace of peer review, figuring out the math, and repeating experiments.

Too true, but I'm sorry to say that you misinterpreted what I meant to say and thus your (correct) analysis came off as somewhat non-sequitur (goddammit, must not drink, else latin). In philosophy class, the normal argument comes off as this: thesis-antithesis-synthesis.

Step 1: you announce your point of view. (The thesis, in which you state your initial claim)
Step 2: you present the counterargument. (The antithesis, in which you offer a rebuttal to your initial claim)
Step 3: you conclude whichever way you feel like. (The synthesis, in which you conclude your argument)

It's all so prim, proper, and codified it should feel like playing mental chess. My fondest memory of the lycée was one where I had to play devil's advocate to an avowed communist. Toughest mental exercise I'd gotten 'til that point. It was delicious. What I was trying to say, and that makes what you said a tangent, is that nowadays you get either reactionnaries who are yelling (and I don't exaggerate) that the old ways were better, or the young guard who are yelling (louder) that the reactionnaries are fascists. We're pretty far from civil discourse, let alone Socrates' methods.

as an aside, we study René Descartes in class, which bridges the gap between math and philosophy. By the way, I was never a fan of philosophy class, even if I come off biased. Thinking about people thinking about how people think is too much of a "yo dawg" moment for me, unfortunately, the teacher assumed that I was trolling whereas I was willingly testing the philosophy (or way of thinking) du jour to the breaking point. That's why I was the teacher's favorite devil's advocate when we talked about it: I am a crash-tester. To this day I do not regret having sunk 8 hours weekly into this course for a school-year. It's just that the lesson was learned as I matured, but I'm not a philosopher by any stretch of the imagination. Hell, LeTipex has a degree, I'm a historian. He philosophizes, I study people who philosophized.


(I love the english language, you can totally create a term like "philosophize" and make it sound like it's not awkward at all...) ;D

@Sigma: The discourse exercise is "convincing others" and nothing else. That's why it's so tough on the nerves and on the students. But to the gish gallop, I counter personnally stenographied notes and a point-by-point rebuttal (whatever works, I guess).
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 27, 2014, 10:24:43 am
You don't *need* a college course to learn formal logic, but unless you had a math Nazi of an Algebra II instructor, I wouldn't expect most high schoolers (or really anyone except math and philosophy majors) to be writing out formal proofs using the notation of formal logic.

Not all philosophy is postmodern. Most of it has a similar rigor as math.

Wait...your teacher didn't have you go thru a whole unit on mathematical proofs and theorems?  My class and I spent a quarter of that whole year going thru and learning to do proofs.  Not that I retained...well, any of it, mind you, but I remember going thru it, and our teacher wasn't unpleasant about it in the slightest.

I will, however, agree that modern debate is fundamentally flawed.  I may have passed debate class because I had technical acumen the teacher could exploit to get her work done in less time (didn't mind that in the slightest), but I did pay attention during the odd lecture she gave.  Modern debate is closer to reality television than it is to actually getting facts out; it doesn't matter who has the more rational, well-formed opinion, it only matters who can metaphorically eat bugs the fastest and not throw up.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 27, 2014, 08:18:57 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/sgs6kx.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 28, 2014, 10:52:59 pm
(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/azLV77N_700b_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Canadian Mojo on August 29, 2014, 03:58:43 am
I have a problem with the lower photo because because of the blatant favoritism going on in the house. The boy gets a crappy old AK for Christmas and his sisters get AR's.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 29, 2014, 08:00:54 am
I dunno, in the top photo, the kid in the middle is pointing his gun at the kid to his left.  Everyone could use a gun safety course, just in case.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Beezlebub on August 29, 2014, 12:20:16 pm
I dunno, in the top photo, the kid in the middle is pointing his gun at the kid to his left.  Everyone could use a gun safety course, just in case.


Neither of them seem to get that you are never supposed to put your finger on the trigger unless you are absolutely sure you want to shoot what you're pointing it at.

Gun safety is pretty much 5 minutes on how to shoot your gun, with 20 hours on how to not shoot it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 31, 2014, 09:20:07 am
(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/aNoKYKv_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 31, 2014, 03:32:14 pm
(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/a49LQB6_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 31, 2014, 06:07:46 pm
(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/a49LQB6_700b.jpg)

Perfectly agreeable.  Except that it needs a big, fat "YET" in there, somewhere.  Its only a matter of time.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ironchew on August 31, 2014, 06:15:14 pm
Perfectly agreeable.  Except that it needs a big, fat "YET" in there, somewhere.  Its only a matter of time.

What energy source/propulsion method would you suggest that would get us all the way to another habitable star system? Granted that, how would you evacuate more than a tiny sliver of Earth's population?

For almost all of us, this is the only planet we've got.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on August 31, 2014, 09:23:42 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10491972_670027736446275_6163303361569681989_n.png?oh=fcf60715d8df0b6025f015cb9b3de1ed&oe=547FCB6B&__gda__=1416093021_dcc549d1dbd65bb1371244d86e82fecc)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 31, 2014, 09:42:32 pm
Perfectly agreeable.  Except that it needs a big, fat "YET" in there, somewhere.  Its only a matter of time.

What energy source/propulsion method would you suggest that would get us all the way to another habitable star system? Granted that, how would you evacuate more than a tiny sliver of Earth's population?

For almost all of us, this is the only planet we've got.

Ya know, for someone so big on their own perceived intellect, you really need to work on your reading comprehension.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ironchew on September 01, 2014, 12:46:30 am
Ya know, for someone so big on their own perceived intellect, you really need to work on your reading comprehension.

I took issue with the "Its only a matter of time." part. It's entirely possible that we may never be able to evacuate the Earth. I figured you would be able to figure that out on your own, but hey, reading comprehension.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Witchyjoshy on September 01, 2014, 01:22:41 am
Ya know, for someone so big on their own perceived intellect, you really need to work on your reading comprehension.

I took issue with the "Its only a matter of time." part. It's entirely possible that we may never be able to evacuate the Earth. I figured you would be able to figure that out on your own, but hey, reading comprehension.

It's also entirely possible that we will be able to.

Though it may not be us that makes it to new worlds, but our great grandchildren.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 01, 2014, 11:58:41 am
(http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2014/08/18/ferguson-protesters-hold-signs.jpg?itok=asaHwvBa)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on September 01, 2014, 01:56:53 pm
Ya know, for someone so big on their own perceived intellect, you really need to work on your reading comprehension.

I took issue with the "Its only a matter of time." part. It's entirely possible that we may never be able to evacuate the Earth. I figured you would be able to figure that out on your own, but hey, reading comprehension.

Chewie, please.  I didn't mean "eavcuation of the Earth," and you know it.  I meant people living on other planets in general.  Either we do it, or our species eventually dies.  Eventually, the sun will expand and our planet will become uninhabitable, that's assuming that nothing else like a giaganto-fuck asteroid comes by and goes all mass extinction on our asses.  It'll be a long time coming, sure, but if we stay content to live on only this one little rock, we are inevitably screwed.  Which will win, our natural urge to survive, or random chance?  Time will tell, but I'll err on the side of optimism.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 01, 2014, 06:25:13 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/2zrdimw.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 01, 2014, 11:03:40 pm
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-shqaw5tz9fA/Tn17qLIvRhI/AAAAAAAABFo/3Al3x-Ph2w0/s1600/304631_2034756788805_1240755864_31836683_979837915_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 02, 2014, 10:19:08 am
(http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000962997/Homosexual_Agenda_450_answer_2_xlarge.gif)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on September 02, 2014, 03:25:44 pm
Clearly, the first one is nonsensical, since not only would any good, God-fearing family immediately excommunicate any deviants found in their midst, but said deviants can't form a cohesive family unit because of their enjoyment of the butt-love.  The second one is asking for special privileges over NORMAL people, and the third is clearly a metaphor for semen.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on September 02, 2014, 05:26:15 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10491972_670027736446275_6163303361569681989_n.png?oh=fcf60715d8df0b6025f015cb9b3de1ed&oe=547FCB6B&__gda__=1416093021_dcc549d1dbd65bb1371244d86e82fecc)

You continue to make baseless assumptions. The only one I would agree with is Number 1, and the rest is utter bullshit. Please go back to your hole, where you and your plebian thoughts belong. And when you are ready for civilized discussion, come out.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on September 02, 2014, 05:46:33 pm
(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/aDwoVpG_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: solar. on September 02, 2014, 05:48:28 pm
That is fuckin' hilarious and true.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 02, 2014, 11:14:16 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/AKof4wY.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on September 02, 2014, 11:33:22 pm
I was gonna post that vaxxination picture. I saw it on Facebook a few times and someone actually thought it was a ANTI-vaccination comic and ranted about it furiously...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on September 03, 2014, 12:40:33 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10491972_670027736446275_6163303361569681989_n.png?oh=fcf60715d8df0b6025f015cb9b3de1ed&oe=547FCB6B&__gda__=1416093021_dcc549d1dbd65bb1371244d86e82fecc)

You continue to make baseless assumptions. The only one I would agree with is Number 1, and the rest is utter bullshit. Please go back to your hole, where you and your plebian thoughts belong. And when you are ready for civilized discussion, come out.

Are you a libertarian socialist, or a right wing socialist. If the former, this doesn't apply, if the latter, you should crawl back to your hole and never come out.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 06, 2014, 09:17:58 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/vg4rgh.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lady Evil on September 08, 2014, 05:36:15 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/AKof4wY.jpg)

Is it illegal to build a car? I know a lot of people re-build scrapped cars as a hobby.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on September 08, 2014, 08:10:11 pm
You can (re)build cars all you like.  However, you can't drive 'em unless they've been inspected by a state-certified...inspection place for shit like basic god damned safety.  Oh, and you have a valid, up-to-date license.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 09, 2014, 03:23:17 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/35aj0ps.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on September 09, 2014, 07:47:26 pm
That's a problem with a lot of things, people assume that any opinion is valid, even obviously stupid ones.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 10, 2014, 08:56:53 am
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/826/073/99c.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on September 10, 2014, 10:18:34 am
This #Gamergate stuff is confusing as balls.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 10, 2014, 10:20:54 am
This #Gamergate stuff is confusing as balls.
I have some reading material for you:

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/gamergate (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/gamergate)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on September 10, 2014, 10:26:04 am
This #Gamergate stuff is confusing as balls.
I have some reading material for you:

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/gamergate (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/gamergate)
I have some reading materiel for you.https://isotropic.org/papers/chicken.pdf (https://isotropic.org/papers/chicken.pdf)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Murdin on September 10, 2014, 04:41:23 pm
*snipped the NSFH part*

Please stop trying to spread that cancer outside its dedicated thread. Especially not by posting an image with at least one obvious, undefendable falsehood in the Awesome Protest Signs thread. Sure, #Gamergate was started by Adam Baldwin... and it was ALL ABOUT Zoe Quinn (https://twitter.com/AdamBaldwin/status/504801169638567936).

Most of the other "facts" are bullshit as well, even though those are more subjective matters (what the hell would be an "official IRC channel" for a Twitter hashtag?). The only points that I would accept as valid are the "started by Adam Baldwin" half of 2, 3, and maybe 4 if I feel generous and take "#Gamergate" to designate most people who ever tweeted on the hashtag rather than the drive behind its existence and popularity.

EDIT: If anyone wants to object to what I just wrote, please take it to the appropriate thread or in a PM. Or just keep it to yourself, that would be even nicer. I swore to myself that I would never intervene again on that issue, and until this point, I had followed through with it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 15, 2014, 02:36:21 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/k3untt.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 24, 2014, 09:38:30 am
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/1f5c579c22130997ce20307da0edcdec/tumblr_mkxinyuDnp1qbm0qgo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 27, 2014, 05:23:45 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/j0d11d.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on September 28, 2014, 07:54:56 am
(http://33.media.tumblr.com/52b5a30f1787c73de947b2ec94a72534/tumblr_ncfjc3DoZO1twpg5io1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on September 28, 2014, 08:00:22 am
Please tell me they were just coming back from hunting or something, and didn't want their weapons getting jacked out of their cars...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on September 28, 2014, 11:19:52 am
(http://33.media.tumblr.com/52b5a30f1787c73de947b2ec94a72534/tumblr_ncfjc3DoZO1twpg5io1_1280.png)

The following needs to become a thing; People just need to stand up, stare, and walk right back outside whenever a group of these open carry morons enter a restaurant. It's political demonstration street theatre, ruined by pissing on missing the point. It's like "exercising" your right to free speech by screaming about it in a movie theatre or at a funeral.

It's a perfect example of what is wrong in society here, lately - "I'm so right, that you are wrong, so fuck you. I got mine, and you can't have any". And by "any", they mean they don't care if they spoiled your lunch.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on September 30, 2014, 01:18:08 am
(http://i.imgur.com/fzgnyZL.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/SrNJaz7.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 04, 2014, 02:31:01 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/2iqmuxv.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on October 04, 2014, 09:31:38 pm
From a Canadian...

(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/a6dOmy9_700b.jpg)

EDIT:

(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/aBQ0xgD_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MrsYoungie on October 05, 2014, 05:04:38 pm
From a Canadian...

(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/a6dOmy9_700b.jpg)

EDIT:

(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/aBQ0xgD_700b.jpg)

Trouble with that second one - those gears aligned like that?  Won't turn.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on October 05, 2014, 05:21:57 pm
(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/aBQ0xgD_700b.jpg)

Trouble with that second one - those gears aligned like that?  Won't turn.

(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/012/132/thatsthejoke.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: LeTipex on October 05, 2014, 06:58:47 pm
(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/aBQ0xgD_700b.jpg)
Ironically enough, those gears can't ever work, interacting as they are. Hidden message, maybe?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 05, 2014, 07:46:03 pm
That it'd work fine if the parents had less say in their children's education?  I'm okay with that.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 08, 2014, 12:54:38 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/sc45ma.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Vypernight on October 09, 2014, 05:32:54 am
(http://33.media.tumblr.com/52b5a30f1787c73de947b2ec94a72534/tumblr_ncfjc3DoZO1twpg5io1_1280.png)

The following needs to become a thing; People just need to stand up, stare, and walk right back outside whenever a group of these open carry morons enter a restaurant. It's political demonstration street theatre, ruined by pissing on missing the point. It's like "exercising" your right to free speech by screaming about it in a movie theatre or at a funeral.

It's a perfect example of what is wrong in society here, lately - "I'm so right, that you are wrong, so fuck you. I got mine, and you can't have any". And by "any", they mean they don't care if they spoiled your lunch.

What's really sad is even the NRA has spoken out against these morons.  When the NRA claims you're taking the 2nd Amendment too far, you've got a problem.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 13, 2014, 10:07:04 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/2mzk26d.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 18, 2014, 12:42:26 am
(http://i.imgur.com/PTwTogc.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Nemo on October 19, 2014, 05:36:19 pm
(http://cdn.duelinganalogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/girl-or-boy-toy.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on October 20, 2014, 12:45:35 pm
(http://cdn.duelinganalogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/girl-or-boy-toy.png)

 :D Awesome! :D
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 25, 2014, 10:15:08 pm
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/az8o76.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 28, 2014, 02:07:52 pm
(http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Protest-global-warming-prevention-725075_500_333.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on October 28, 2014, 04:17:01 pm
http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Protest-global-warming-prevention-725075_500_333.jpg
Your image wasn't showing (at least for me) but the link works. What are those (books? pamphlets?) that they have built the letters from?

As for that trans sign, a bit too small for the text on it. It would be hard to read it from afar (which is the whole point in protest signs) but otherwise I like it and it would work better if it was a poster (or as a picture on the internet.)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 29, 2014, 12:06:07 pm
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/2vskw2a.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on October 31, 2014, 11:33:00 am
What's with the SS symbols?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on October 31, 2014, 11:39:16 am
It's a way of writing the letter 's'? Don't think there's much more to it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Igor on October 31, 2014, 12:42:33 pm
That's just how some people write the letter s, I wouldn't read too much into it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 31, 2014, 06:39:36 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/25fk9j6.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 03, 2014, 08:39:26 pm
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/2wf0qog.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Beezlebub on November 03, 2014, 08:53:55 pm
I'm conflicted between my love of gay rights and my love of kelsey grammer.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 09, 2014, 04:11:32 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/5d1p2b.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 18, 2014, 02:17:35 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/qx416q.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 21, 2014, 09:43:44 am
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/2dryrzp.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on November 22, 2014, 03:53:10 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1982249_746558872087356_658490787000502171_n.png?oh=0908622d41b3002874628b967e3a62c5&oe=54D6ABD4&__gda__=1424055126_a1c3961df5a1bc6b13b3f42eb0c243e4)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on November 22, 2014, 04:12:01 pm
Which is amazing to me.  Since when did we as a society feel that the proper response to a "no" is "kill the bitch"?

Ironbite-boggles me mind.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Random Gal on November 23, 2014, 02:56:11 pm
Remember, a woman is only a slut if she'll have sex with people who aren't you.

*bangs head against wall*
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on November 23, 2014, 03:10:12 pm
Remember, a woman is only a slut if she'll have sex with people who aren't you.

*bangs head against wall*

No, no, the joke is, "A slut will sleep with anyone. A bitch will sleep with anyone but you."

Which is, I know, even worse.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 24, 2014, 11:39:04 am
Remember, a woman is only a slut if she'll have sex with people who aren't you.

*bangs head against wall*

No, no, the joke is, "A slut will sleep with anyone. A bitch will sleep with anyone but you."

Which is, I know, even worse.

"Maybe she's just not happy that you're treating her like a sexual object, ever think of that?  Oh wait, you're a misogynist, of course you didn't."

-My hypothetical response to somebody saying that and meaning it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on November 25, 2014, 10:49:08 pm
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/f88fb8b0d6d8f558d653bd2981efab02/tumblr_n56tylLVN91qln2e2o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 27, 2014, 11:36:22 am
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/2v83c0p.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 03, 2014, 03:43:07 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/3a0e2230ad1a2ccc7c7938ee638e48f2/tumblr_mznswg5sDa1qm0yhvo3_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 06, 2014, 10:21:55 pm
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/3016cd52fa04f1b0704ee5e334820cd2/tumblr_ng2a6rDQrJ1r83d7lo4_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 09, 2014, 07:19:11 pm
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/ru75hl.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The_Queen on December 10, 2014, 03:30:48 pm
There is an edit button, dude.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 10, 2014, 03:36:22 pm
There is an edit button, dude.

Okay, sorry.  Old habits die hard.

But anyway:

(http://oi61.tinypic.com/v5bolk.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on December 10, 2014, 03:58:03 pm
.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on December 10, 2014, 07:52:14 pm
There is an edit button, dude.

Okay, sorry.  Old habits die hard.

But anyway:

(http://oi61.tinypic.com/v5bolk.jpg)

Not a bad argument, but it would never fly with your average conservative Christian anti-choicer. They tend to be the same people who believe that homosexuality is a choice, so this question would get a response talking about how there ARE no gay fetuses, if it got one at all.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 10, 2014, 07:55:11 pm
.

In fairness, I'm pretty sure most black men who get murdered are killed by other black men.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on December 10, 2014, 08:26:29 pm
.

In fairness, I'm pretty sure most black men who get murdered are killed by other black men.
Speaking of which:
(https://upworthy-production.s3.amazonaws.com/nugget/4f9179fb2837d8000300061b/attachments/crime_myths.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 10, 2014, 08:37:10 pm
.

In fairness, I'm pretty sure most black men who get murdered are killed by other black men.
Speaking of which:
(https://upworthy-production.s3.amazonaws.com/nugget/4f9179fb2837d8000300061b/attachments/crime_myths.png)

I already knew the first three.  I'd never heard the myth that black kids tend to have behavioral problems, and I knew that not all black communities had crime problems (because crime is really more of a class thing than a race thing).  But it's good to have statistics.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on December 10, 2014, 08:52:45 pm
Just so you know that wasn't directed towards you, I just like it cuz it's a great response to the "black people kill themselves more often than cops do!" Talking point.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 10, 2014, 09:22:02 pm
Just so you know that wasn't directed towards you, I just like it cuz it's a great response to the "black people kill themselves more often than cops do!" Talking point.

Okay, I get ya.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 13, 2014, 10:47:55 pm
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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on December 13, 2014, 10:50:09 pm
*Looks at the very befuddled shark.*

I know, buddy. I don't know how he vaults you either.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on December 14, 2014, 01:54:42 am
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The fact that this made-up person is saying these things renders feminism a hate movement, how exactly?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ghoti on December 14, 2014, 03:18:24 am
It's criticizing the "well the dictionary definition of X is..." argument/derailing tactic, conveniently ignoring that dictionaries are not Objective Truth that has existed since the Dawn of Time, but books written by irrational human beings with their own sets of prejudices.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 14, 2014, 07:50:12 am
Feminism is not a hate movement.  It's just pointing out the hypocrisy of radflakes.

ETA: I've got a pleasant surprise.

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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 25, 2014, 10:23:24 pm
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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Yla on December 26, 2014, 08:03:24 am
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If they left out the second line, it'd be great. We don't like people instrumentalizing their kids, why should pets be different?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ghoti on December 26, 2014, 09:13:14 am
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If they left out the second line, it'd be great. We don't like people instrumentalizing their kids, why should pets be different?
Children will someday grow up and hold their own views, and should be allowed to develop them without brainwashing or fear of judgement. A dog will never hold political beliefs because he's a dog. Besides, indoctrinating your kids with your own worldview is much more likely to end horribly than putting a sign in your dog's mouth and giving him a treat so he'll sit still long enough for you to take a picture.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on December 26, 2014, 10:41:42 am
And it beats the usual pet-shaming sign of, "I ate my mommie's shoes and barfed them up...then ate them again."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 26, 2014, 05:55:03 pm
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If they left out the second line, it'd be great. We don't like people instrumentalizing their kids, why should pets be different?
Children will someday grow up and hold their own views, and should be allowed to develop them without brainwashing or fear of judgement. A dog will never hold political beliefs because he's a dog. Besides, indoctrinating your kids with your own worldview is much more likely to end horribly than putting a sign in your dog's mouth and giving him a treat so he'll sit still long enough for you to take a picture.

My sentiments, more or less.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on December 31, 2014, 12:48:34 am
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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 31, 2014, 12:51:25 am
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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on January 08, 2015, 05:28:47 am
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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on January 08, 2015, 07:45:58 am
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unity in journalism

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as a protest against terrorism, all cartoons in holland are black blocks today.

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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 14, 2015, 09:11:42 pm
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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SCarpelan on January 15, 2015, 12:29:19 pm
From http://mic.com/articles/107988/the-hero-of-the-charlie-hebdo-shooting-we-re-overlooking

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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 20, 2015, 04:54:19 pm
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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on January 21, 2015, 12:43:27 am
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You know, occasionally I can't figure out the gender of some random person I see based on their appearance, but it is not a big deal, more like "huh? I can't tell if that person is a dude or chick, oh well no matter." I also remember noticing two women and wondering if they were a couple or just close friends. Mainly because if I was told to imagine the most stereotypical "butch lesbian" one of them would have been the exact image... Again, not that it really makes a difference, just some idle musings while I was on the bus going to my job and still only half awake.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on January 22, 2015, 06:28:55 am
technically not a sign, but this really happened on french tv as a protest to fox news' bullshit. and yes, it lasted a week, forcing fox to apologize. and yes, it was hilarious (this is only one skit out of 5)

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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on January 22, 2015, 09:50:41 am
Oh wow.

Ironbite-that's hilarious.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on January 22, 2015, 01:11:16 pm
Stewart and Colbert are impressed.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on January 23, 2015, 12:07:10 am
That was awesome! *ROFL* VIVA LE FRANCE!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on January 30, 2015, 04:11:50 am
Now that Kokoomus
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suffered setbacks and lost voters they have loudly complained that they should still be allowed in the government rather than being left out to the opposition because "Every time that a red-ochre goverment
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has been formed it has been a disaster to Finnish economy."

And here, from the image included we can see just how horrible the Red-ochre goverments have been. The graph shows the growth/fall of Gross domestic product in Finland. And the biggest disasters have happened when the Kokoomus (Reminder that they are the BUSINESS PARTY favoured traditionally by the bourgeois.) has been in the goverment... They better hope that the voters are too dumb to actually check the facts. (And they would have to do it themselves since the media would not bother to do so.)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on January 30, 2015, 10:56:52 am
It might sound conspiracy-like, but it seems to me that conservative parties like to make their policies to temporarily quash GDP, depress stock prices and prime rates, cause layoffs from industries in the transition phase to greater automation, so that the one percenters can scoop up stocks and troubled businesses at deep discount prices. It only seems obvious when things go a bit overboard or they just fuck up, as happened when long term tax policies and lack of financial law enforcement occurred, leading to the crash of '08-'10.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 30, 2015, 11:12:22 am
It might sound conspiracy-like, but it seems to me that conservative parties like to make their policies to temporarily quash GDP, depress stock prices and prime rates, cause layoffs from industries in the transition phase to greater automation, so that the one percenters can scoop up stocks and troubled businesses at deep discount prices. It only seems obvious when things go a bit overboard or they just fuck up, as happened when long term tax policies and lack of financial law enforcement occurred, leading to the crash of '08-'10.

The sad thing is, I wouldn't be surprised if that were actually the case.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SCarpelan on January 30, 2015, 12:02:50 pm
Now that Kokoomus...

I'll just throw this here. The current prime minister and the Kokoomus party leader is Alexander Stubb; the economy blog Raha ja talous found some interesting quotes from him.

Quote from: Alexander Stubb in September 2014
During this term we have had to cut expenses and raise taxes significantly. This tightening of the finance policies has also weakened the economical growth.

Quote from: Alexander Stubb in January 2015
Finland has now tried stimulation for years. Since 2009 we have doubled our national debt from ca. 20 billion euros to ca. 100 billion euros. Despite that we are hanging around zero growth for the seventh consecutive year.
I wonder if the situation in Greece and the rising pressure towards actual stimulation economics has anything to do with his... eh... shall we say new perspective. Fuck that party.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 31, 2015, 10:33:15 am
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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on January 31, 2015, 11:43:38 am
I get their point, but I think for a lot of people the answer is "yes" to both cases. Rape jokes aimed at men are not limited to prisoners.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 31, 2015, 11:47:56 am
I get their point, but I think for a lot of people the answer is "yes" to both cases. Rape jokes aimed at men are not limited to prisoners.

Indeed, but in my experience, I've found that prison rape jokes are considerably more common than man rape jokes, even among those supposedly more enlightened.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on January 31, 2015, 11:52:57 am
I get their point, but I think for a lot of people the answer is "yes" to both cases. Rape jokes aimed at men are not limited to prisoners.

Indeed, but in my experience, I've found that prison rape jokes are considerably more common than man rape jokes, even among those supposedly more enlightened.

I guess social enlightenment's a gradual thing. Even New-Left Flowerchild types in the 60s-70s, who protested against stale outdated values, unjust war, human cruelty & government corruption could be sexist against women. Old habits die hard.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rookie on January 31, 2015, 02:45:40 pm
Um, Barb, those were the ones burning bras, getting Roe v Wade, and generally fighting for the rights you and I take for granted. Also, remember that was backlash to the hippies' general treatment of women. 
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on January 31, 2015, 04:45:30 pm
Yeah, hippie male attitudes tended towards sex drugs and rock n roll. They mostly viewed feminists as middle aged harpies.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on January 31, 2015, 10:57:26 pm
Um, Barb, those were the ones burning bras, getting Roe v Wade, and generally fighting for the rights you and I take for granted. Also, remember that was backlash to the hippies' general treatment of women.

I know that. I know many were feminist. Maybe I described the wrong people. Maybe I should have just said "Youth Counterculture of the 60s".

The point I was trying to make was that even enlightened smart folks who hate bigotry can subconsciously think nothing of something that, in a deeper way may be it sexist, ableist, anti-gay, etc.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 01, 2015, 08:17:49 am
Aren't the hippies the ones responsible for the nuclear power panic that's with us to this day?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on February 01, 2015, 10:14:33 am
Aren't the hippies the ones responsible for the nuclear power panic that's with us to this day?

Yes. It was a legit concern back then, but with modern designs, and specifically by choosing to build breeder reactors, those concerns are largely now moot. Reference: France. The No Nukes crowd are genuine fundies, aging very ungracefully, indoctrinating an anti-vax level of stupid onto younger generations of activists.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 01, 2015, 12:52:33 pm
And screwing us over on much more efficient and cleaner alternatives to shit-spewing dinosaur burner plants.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on February 01, 2015, 02:38:24 pm
And screwing us over on much more efficient and cleaner alternatives to shit-spewing dinosaur burner plants.

That reminds me of the time I realized that our cars are literally powered by exploding T-rexs. That's pretty fucking metal.

Yes I realize that the majority of the matter that got turned in to oil wasn't from large dinosaurs.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Zygarde on February 01, 2015, 02:51:33 pm
It's kinda like how birds are genetically similar enough to dinosaurs that they are still part of the same genus. (which means that  chicken gyro I had a few minutes ago was a dinosaur gyro.)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 01, 2015, 03:17:48 pm
It's kinda like how birds are genetically similar enough to dinosaurs that they are still part of the same genus. (which means that  chicken gyro I had a few minutes ago was a dinosaur gyro.)

Maybe I should call it "dinosaur watching".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on February 01, 2015, 09:08:48 pm
I wonder if that stupid ride at EPCOT was ever updated to reflect science? I'd assume not, because the dinos are the main draw of that ride.

EPCOT Guest: "Yeah yeah yeah....oil...energy....blah blah....I JUST HERE FOR THE EPIC AWESOMENESS OF ANIMATRONIC T-REX, MAAAAN!"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 02, 2015, 05:01:23 pm
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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ironchew on February 02, 2015, 05:32:48 pm
-snip-

That's not how vaccines work.

Some vaccines are less effective than others, and a very tiny percentage of the population doesn't get vaccinated because of actual life-threatening reactions to the vaccine. Everyone has a chance of getting these diseases and that chance is higher because pathogens now have anti-vax reservoirs.

So no, they aren't perfectly fine. That's why anti-vax nuts are a public health problem.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 03, 2015, 08:55:15 am
I think the pic author means "fine" as in "not harmed by the vaccine itself."  Diseases can still wreck your shit.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rookie on February 04, 2015, 12:28:22 am
-snip-

That's not how vaccines work.

Some vaccines are less effective than others, and a very tiny percentage of the population doesn't get vaccinated because of actual life-threatening reactions to the vaccine. Everyone has a chance of getting these diseases and that chance is higher because pathogens now have anti-vax reservoirs.

So no, they aren't perfectly fine. That's why anti-vax nuts are a public health problem.

I read that more as a screw you to the antivaxers. Know what? Me and millions like me have been vaccinated and we don't have any cancers or autism or whatever it is they're saying now.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on February 04, 2015, 01:31:30 am
-snip-

That's not how vaccines work.

Some vaccines are less effective than others, and a very tiny percentage of the population doesn't get vaccinated because of actual life-threatening reactions to the vaccine. Everyone has a chance of getting these diseases and that chance is higher because pathogens now have anti-vax reservoirs.

So no, they aren't perfectly fine. That's why anti-vax nuts are a public health problem.

I read that more as a screw you to the antivaxers. Know what? Me and millions like me have been vaccinated and we don't have any cancers or autism or whatever it is they're saying now.
I think that is what it was trying to say.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sleepy on February 04, 2015, 06:12:31 pm
I'm thankful that everyone I know, liberal or conservative, strongly opposes anti-vaxxers. My relatives can occasionally be irritating with their politics, but at least we share some common ground.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on February 04, 2015, 08:20:51 pm
Vaccines are awesomesauce!

There needs to be a mass-protest of Pro-Vaxxers! Make a big noise, a huge stink!

Have a few Pro-Vaxxer celebs show up on a show involving Oprah! Undo the Oprah-based Jenny McCarthy stupidity!

The Great Disneyland Measles Mess of 2015 should be a big wake-up call against Anti-Vax nuts.....Like Emmett Till & Rosa Parks was to the Civil Rights Movement....Jesse Washington was to the Anti-Lynching Movement....Adam Walsh to Child Abductions....Stonewall Uprising & Matthew Shepherd to LGBT Rights....Rachel Carson's Silent Spring to Environmentalism....and so on....

I'm all for Freedom of Speech but there needs to be a huge Anti-Conspiracy Nut Backlash noise because Conspiracy theories aren't as harmless as you think. It sows distrust of everything, stifles political participation, sews bigotry, stifles progress & gives new life to once-eradicated diseases! It's STUPID!

It's okay to question things like Government and such but to go "Tin-Foil Hat" on everything is idiotic!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kat S. on February 04, 2015, 10:44:54 pm
Jon Stewart addresses the stupidity of the anti-vaccine stance.

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/5t2dw1/les-measlesrables (http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/5t2dw1/les-measlesrables)

If you can't view the video from comedy central, here is one from Yahoo! news.

http://news.yahoo.com/jon-stewart-christie-paul-anti-vaxxers-daily-show-video-151015483.html (http://news.yahoo.com/jon-stewart-christie-paul-anti-vaxxers-daily-show-video-151015483.html)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SCarpelan on February 07, 2015, 06:49:07 pm
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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on February 07, 2015, 09:58:48 pm
Thank You.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kain on February 07, 2015, 11:25:35 pm
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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kat S. on February 08, 2015, 05:07:39 pm
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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 09, 2015, 08:50:50 pm
With the Fifty Shades of Grey movie coming out soon, there are edited posters showing how awful and misogynistic the books are.

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Yes, that's straight from the book.  No, it's not "consensual non-con".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ironchew on February 09, 2015, 09:34:56 pm
Yes, that's straight from the book.  No, it's not "consensual non-con".

So?

Some people are into reading that stuff. I'm sure there's even kinkier fiction out there.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on February 09, 2015, 10:07:59 pm
I remember that after I did some digging to get the actual page number for it, it turned out the infamous mother hamster quote isn't actually in the book. That said, what does it say about the book that almost nobody doubted it was in there, including people who had read the entire book?

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on February 09, 2015, 10:20:10 pm
God the whole fucking book is just one big Nope for me.

Ironbite-it's not BDSM, it's abuse
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on February 09, 2015, 10:46:32 pm
One of my best friends is an ex-domme.  I asked her about Fifty Shades and her opinion on it.

Her answer? "Fifty Shades is to BDSM what CSI and Law and Order are to actual criminal proceedings, and it's incredibly fucking insulting."

"So... unhappy about it?"

"Give me ten minutes alone with the author with a razor, salt and lemon juice.  My rage might be quenched by then.  Maybe."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on February 09, 2015, 10:51:14 pm
The whole book is about rape and control. A girl is raped and forced into a BDSM-type relationship which somehow turns into "true love". The book also trashes real BDSM, associating it with both rape & mental issues. The whole this is DUMB DUMB DUMB.

Plus, from what I've heard, it's horribly-written and about as erotic as a clipped-off toenail.

What's this thing about the hamster? Can anyone explain?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on February 10, 2015, 01:00:21 am
With the Fifty Shades of Grey movie coming out soon, there are edited posters showing how awful and misogynistic the books are.

[pic snipped]

Yes, that's straight from the book.  No, it's not "consensual non-con".

Hm. On the one hand, there's nothing wrong with non-con porn (it's fiction, not like anyone is getting hurt). On the other, apparently the book is not trying to be non-con, it's trying to be BDSM and failing miserably.

On the metaphorical third hand, I don't intend to read the book, watch the movie, or otherwise interact with the thing at all, so why do I care?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on February 10, 2015, 07:29:28 pm
With the Fifty Shades of Grey movie coming out soon, there are edited posters showing how awful and misogynistic the books are.

[pic snipped]

Yes, that's straight from the book.  No, it's not "consensual non-con".

Hm. On the one hand, there's nothing wrong with non-con porn (it's fiction, not like anyone is getting hurt). On the other, apparently the book is not trying to be non-con, it's trying to be BDSM and failing miserably.

On the metaphorical third hand, I don't intend to read the book, watch the movie, or otherwise interact with the thing at all, so why do I care?

There’s a place so dark you can’t see the end
Skies cock back and shock that which can’t defend
The rain then sends dripping / an acidic question
Forcefully, the power of suggestion
Then with the eyes shut / looking thought the rust and rot
And dust / a small spot of light floods the floor
And pours over the rusted world of pretend
The eyes ease open and its dark again
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Eiki-mun on February 10, 2015, 08:14:24 pm
As soon as I read that, I heard the song. It was great.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 11, 2015, 03:02:57 pm
Whatever Grey is supposed to be, he completely fails at it.  If he's supposed to be a romantic hero, he's a terrible one because he's an awful person, a sexual predator who treats his girlfriend appallingly.  He also completely fails at being charming.  Really, Zapp Brannigan would make a better romantic male lead than him.  If he's supposed to be a tortured soul, that doesn't work either because he's too unlikable to be sympathetic.  The thing about the Byronic Hero is that you're supposed to like them, or failing that, at least feel sorry for them.  And if he's supposed to be a villainous sadist, he's still not a very good one because, to put it bluntly, he's really not all that threatening.  Luring a naïve doormat of a woman into an abusive relationship under the guise of BDSM is despicable, but he'd never have gotten anywhere if Ana had a brain and/or a spine.  Ramsay Snow would kick his ass to the moon and back.

The only thing these books are any good for is a study-aid in how not to write.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Random Gal on February 11, 2015, 03:11:08 pm
Whatever Grey is supposed to be, he completely fails at it.  If he's supposed to be a romantic hero, he's a terrible one because he's an awful person, a sexual predator who treats his girlfriend appallingly.  He also completely fails at being charming.  Really, Zapp Brannigan would make a better romantic male lead than him.  If he's supposed to be a tortured soul, that doesn't work either because he's too unlikable to be sympathetic.  The thing about the Byronic Hero is that you're supposed to like them, or failing that, at least feel sorry for them.  And if he's supposed to be a villainous sadist, he's still not a very good one because, to put it bluntly, he's really not all that threatening.  Luring a naïve doormat of a woman into an abusive relationship under the guise of BDSM is despicable, but he'd never have gotten anywhere if Ana had a brain and/or a spine.  Ramsay Snow would kick his ass to the moon and back.

The only thing these books are any good for is a study-aid in how not to write.

Or toilet paper, or fire-starting material.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on February 11, 2015, 05:07:15 pm
Whatever Grey is supposed to be, he completely fails at it.  If he's supposed to be a romantic hero, he's a terrible one because he's an awful person, a sexual predator who treats his girlfriend appallingly.  He also completely fails at being charming.  Really, Zapp Brannigan would make a better romantic male lead than him.  If he's supposed to be a tortured soul, that doesn't work either because he's too unlikable to be sympathetic.  The thing about the Byronic Hero is that you're supposed to like them, or failing that, at least feel sorry for them.  And if he's supposed to be a villainous sadist, he's still not a very good one because, to put it bluntly, he's really not all that threatening.  Luring a naïve doormat of a woman into an abusive relationship under the guise of BDSM is despicable, but he'd never have gotten anywhere if Ana had a brain and/or a spine.  Ramsay Snow would kick his ass to the moon and back.

The only thing these books are any good for is as standard fanfiction.net fare.

FTFY.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on February 11, 2015, 05:17:58 pm
Whatever Grey is supposed to be, he completely fails at it.  If he's supposed to be a romantic hero, he's a terrible one because he's an awful person, a sexual predator who treats his girlfriend appallingly.  He also completely fails at being charming.  Really, Zapp Brannigan would make a better romantic male lead than him.  If he's supposed to be a tortured soul, that doesn't work either because he's too unlikable to be sympathetic.  The thing about the Byronic Hero is that you're supposed to like them, or failing that, at least feel sorry for them.  And if he's supposed to be a villainous sadist, he's still not a very good one because, to put it bluntly, he's really not all that threatening.  Luring a naïve doormat of a woman into an abusive relationship under the guise of BDSM is despicable, but he'd never have gotten anywhere if Ana had a brain and/or a spine.  Ramsay Snow would kick his ass to the moon and back.

The only thing these books are any good for is a study-aid in how not to write.

Call me crazy, but it seems there is something amiss in saying that a book that sold a hundred million copies fails at everything. Obviously sales are not the ultimate measure of a book, but you shouldn't expect a book that doesn't do anything right to do so well commercially.

Millions of people bought and presumably enjoyed 50 Shades. Many of writers have "write a book that lots of people buy and enjoy" as a goal. Unless you think 50 Shades selling as well as it did is a complete coincidence, there are writers that have something to learn from it (even if the lesson is "write Twilight-derivative porn").
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on February 11, 2015, 05:40:17 pm
50 Shades falls into 'no accounting for taste' territory.  Right alongside Twilight itself and Atlas Shrugged. And most romance novels in general.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on February 11, 2015, 07:51:47 pm
Well, at least it gives me hope that my self-published stuff could work.  ;D
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Zygarde on February 12, 2015, 05:14:39 pm
I'm still a bit in wonder that a glorified Twilight fanfic became a best selling novel.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on February 12, 2015, 08:28:18 pm
That's probably BECAUSE it's a glorified Twilight fanfic. From what I understand, there's a lot of overlap between "Twilight moms" and women who like the "Fifty Shades" trilogy.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on February 12, 2015, 08:43:52 pm
That's probably BECAUSE it's a glorified Twilight fanfic. From what I understand, there's a lot of overlap between "Twilight moms" and women who like the "Fifty Shades" trilogy.
That says several things about my grandmother.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 15, 2015, 10:05:48 am
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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on February 15, 2015, 11:25:47 am
Awww...I wanna snuggle him!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on February 15, 2015, 01:17:23 pm
Oh my goodness, doesn't he look like a cutie?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on February 15, 2015, 06:30:21 pm
Awww...I wanna snuggle him!

Me too....*DOGGEH HUGZ*
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on February 21, 2015, 03:32:18 am
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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on February 21, 2015, 11:59:48 am
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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on February 21, 2015, 12:05:10 pm
Shouldn't that be in the "Dumbest Protest Signs" thread?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SCarpelan on February 21, 2015, 12:15:02 pm
Shouldn't that be in the "Dumbest Protest Signs" thread?
Yeah. Anyone who thinks that a housewife with children and no hired help isn't working at least equal hours to an office worker is divorced from reality. If the spouse with a wage job isn't helping with the chores even when at home it's even more work for her.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on February 21, 2015, 12:20:42 pm
Shouldn't that be in the "Dumbest Protest Signs" thread?
Yeah. Anyone who thinks that a housewife with children and no hired help isn't working at least equal hours to an office worker is divorced from reality. If the spouse with a wage job isn't helping with the chores even when at home it's even more work for her.

Anyone who thinks doing chores for 2 hours and playing video games and watching daytime television is equivalent hours to an office worker is divorced from reality.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 21, 2015, 12:25:53 pm
Shouldn't that be in the "Dumbest Protest Signs" thread?
Yeah. Anyone who thinks that a housewife with children and no hired help isn't working at least equal hours to an office worker is divorced from reality. If the spouse with a wage job isn't helping with the chores even when at home it's even more work for her.

Anyone who thinks doing chores for 2 hours and playing video games and watching daytime television is equivalent hours to an office worker is divorced from reality.

My sister is a housewife.  And let me tell you, you're the one divorced from reality.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on February 21, 2015, 12:32:59 pm
My sister is a housewife.  And let me tell you, you're the one divorced from reality.

Unless your sister is part of the quiverfull cult and pops babies every year, she has no real excuse to be a homemaker other than severe disabilities.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 21, 2015, 12:35:11 pm
My sister is a housewife.  And let me tell you, you're the one divorced from reality.

Unless your sister is part of the quiverfull cult and pops babies every year, she has no real excuse to be a homemaker other than severe disabilities.

You know, that's really misogynistic.  Then again, what do I expect from a eugenics supporter?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on February 21, 2015, 12:36:47 pm
*Gets out folding chair.*
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on February 21, 2015, 12:45:18 pm
You know, that's really misogynistic.  Then again, what do I expect from a eugenics supporter?

You're a misogynist for saying women staying home doing chore should get as much respect as women who grow up like adults and support their family financially.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 21, 2015, 12:48:36 pm
You know, that's really misogynistic.  Then again, what do I expect from a eugenics supporter?

You're a misogynist for saying women staying home doing chore should get as much respect as women who grow up like adults and support their family financially.

So, pigeonholing and stereotyping women is feminist now?  Must've missed the memo.  If you think demeaning women for their own life choices is feminist, you're in desperate need of a reality check.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on February 21, 2015, 12:56:18 pm

So, pigeonholing and stereotyping women is feminist now?  Must've missed the memo.  If you think demeaning women for their own life choices is feminist, you're in desperate need of a reality check.

If their life choices are poor then, yes they should be demeaned. If you think we should treat women like children and not call them out when they make decisions that causes their family to be less financially stable, and act as a poor role model to their children by being lazy and not getting a job, then they should be demeaned just like any man who makes poor decisions.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 21, 2015, 01:03:21 pm

So, pigeonholing and stereotyping women is feminist now?  Must've missed the memo.  If you think demeaning women for their own life choices is feminist, you're in desperate need of a reality check.

If their life choices are poor then, yes they should be demeaned. If you think we should treat women like children and not call them out when they make decisions that causes their family to be less financially stable, and act as a poor role model to their children by being lazy and not getting a job, then they should be demeaned just like any man who makes poor decisions.

You have a funny definition of "poor life choices".  It's not like she's cutting herself, snorting crack, or joining some bizarre cult.  Would it still be a poor life choice if a man decided to be a stay-at-home dad?

Also, you're starting to sound really materialistic, what with your focus on earning money.  Not everything revolves around the wallet.  If you want to worship the Almighty Dollar, be my guest, but don't call other people "defective" for not centering their lives around their bank accounts.

And in my book, telling women what lifestyles are "acceptable" infantilizes them more than giving them freedom to choose what they want to do for a living.  Why don't you read some Simone de Beauvoir?

Let me ask you something: have you ever tried being a homemaker?  It's probably much harder than you think.  Try it for a while, then talk to me about how "lazy" housewives are.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on February 21, 2015, 01:19:50 pm
Quote from: Family Guy
Peter Griffin: Gloria, this is my life partner, Lois.

Lois Griffin; I'm his wife.

Gloria Ironbachs: His "wife." Yes.

Gloria Ironbachs: Peter tells me you don't have a career of your own.

Lois Griffin: No.

Lois Griffin: Life outside my kitchen is so bright and scary.

Lois Griffin: I'm just here because you caught me between pregnancies.

Gloria Ironbachs: I'm sorry you're so hostile toward someone who's fighting so a woman like you can become more than just a housewife.

Lois Griffin: Oh, just a housewife?

Lois Griffin: Look, I'm all for equality but if you ask me, feminism is about choice.

Lois Griffin: I choose to be a wife and mother.

Lois Griffin: And now I'm choosing to end this conversation.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 21, 2015, 02:11:45 pm
Ya know, I may never want to be a father, but I'd be a happy man if I got to work from home and not deal with commutes, petty office politics, or any other bullshit you have when you cram two dozen people into a cube farm.  If I did want to be a father, I wouldn't mind being a stay-at-home dad, either, so long as we're financially able to do so without problems.  Now, if you choose to have children and be a stay-at-home parent when doing so is financially infeasible, then I will call your judgment into question, as well as your actual preparedness to be a parent.  Money may not be able to raise your kids for you, but you can't deny that it sure as hell helps.  At the end of the day, though, its your choice, the same way it is with deciding to buy a monster truck, getting drunk with your buddies, or smoking a blunt, ordering a dozen pizzas, and watching Sesame Street.  I may disagree with your choices and/or your reasoning behind them, but I respect the fact that, unless you were forcibly coerced into making said choice, that they're yours to make.

Remember, children: to get respect, you gotta give respect.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on February 21, 2015, 02:14:22 pm
Cataclysm, have you ever spent a day at home alone with even one young child or baby? Do you and the guy who wrote that polemic against housewives think that little kids just hold still like plants and absorb food and knowledge from the Ether? What the fuck, dude. Running a household and being a stay home mother is exhausting, crazy-making hard work. Ask any stay-at-home dad, if you don't believe me.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on February 21, 2015, 02:17:58 pm
Cataclysm, have you ever spent a day at home alone with even one young child or baby? Do you and the guy who wrote that polemic against housewives think that little kids just hold still like plants and absorb food and knowledge from the Ether? What the fuck, dude. Running a household and being a stay home mother is exhausting, crazy-making hard work. Ask any stay-at-home dad, if you don't believe me.
Silly non-libertarian, Cataclysm doesn't have time for that. He's too busy RAH RAH FIGHTING THE POWER of the "monopoly on force" to care about such things like children.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on February 21, 2015, 02:19:43 pm
Would it still be a poor life choice if a man decided to be a stay-at-home dad?

Yes, and society realizes this.

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Also, you're starting to sound really materialistic, what with your focus on earning money.  Not everything revolves around the wallet.  If you want to worship the Almighty Dollar, be my guest, but don't call other people "defective" for not centering their lives around their bank accounts.

Money is necessary to buy food, shelter, utilities, education, and healthcare. To pretend it doesn't matter is utterly stupid.

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And in my book, telling women what lifestyles are "acceptable" infantilizes them more than giving them freedom to choose what they want to do for a living.  Why don't you read some Simone de Beauvoir?

So if someone drops out of high school and lives off government welfare for their whole life, that's acceptable and telling them to get a job would be infantalizing?

And nobody's freedom is being restricted. Your lifestyle choice isn't protected from criticism.

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Let me ask you something: have you ever tried being a homemaker?  It's probably much harder than you think.  Try it for a while, then talk to me about how "lazy" housewives are.

I do my chores. It isn't hard.

Working mothers take care of their children, do their chores, and bring home an income. Homemakers have no excuse.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on February 21, 2015, 02:26:03 pm
Working mothers suffer from burnout because of that. Although things have gotten better for most, typically in two income households, women also do the majority of child rearing work and household maintenance. The only other person on this board I would really like to hear from now is Mrs. Rookie. Prepare for legitimate righteous indignation from her.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on February 21, 2015, 02:41:58 pm
Although things have gotten better for most, typically in two income households, women also do the majority of child rearing work and household maintenance.

Well if some men's ego's weren't so fragile that they thought their balls would drop off if they cleaned the dishes this wouldn't be an issue.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Eiki-mun on February 21, 2015, 03:00:04 pm
Although things have gotten better for most, typically in two income households, women also do the majority of child rearing work and household maintenance.

Well if some men's ego's weren't so fragile that they thought their balls would drop off if they cleaned the dishes this wouldn't be an issue.

It's like you're trying to offend everyone.

...Are you? This must just be trolling, right?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 21, 2015, 04:19:22 pm
This is Lexi, dude.  I remind you that this is a kid who thought keeping himself from going into puberty (or further into it, I forget which) was a good idea.  Motherfucker's got a skull so thick it could be considered battleship plating.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on February 21, 2015, 04:51:59 pm
Holy shit I actually agree with Paragon on something.

Ironbite-makes me hate Cataclysm that much more.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ironchew on February 21, 2015, 05:40:04 pm
FQA's been way too agreeable lately. It's good to see Cataclysm stirring shit up.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go make buckets of popcorn.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on February 21, 2015, 05:55:06 pm
FQA's been way too agreeable lately. It's good to see Cataclysm stirring shit up.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go make buckets of popcorn.
Don't waste your time, I already made some Crackerjacks for the two of us.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on February 21, 2015, 06:30:35 pm
There's stirring shit up and then there's being an obstinate fuck bag.

Ironbite-we're in the latter category.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 21, 2015, 06:54:08 pm
I got the beer!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sleepy on February 21, 2015, 07:52:30 pm
Lexi, you're a fucking moron. Seriously, it's hilarious how unbelievably blind you are. You have no idea how difficult it is to take care of children on a daily fucking basis, along with maintaining a home. You know what kids do? They cry, shit everywhere, break furniture, eat everything, throw tantrums, shit some more, eat some more... the list is endless. You don't have a break when you're dealing with kids. You act like they sit there in the corner all day, quietly playing fucking marbles. No, they don't. They require attention, especially the younger ones, and especially kids who have disabilities. And guess what? Sometimes having one parent stay home is the best option. But I guess you're too much of a goddamn moron to consider anything outside your own personal situation. Do you know how expensive childcare is in the US? So expensive that returning to work is often utterly pointless for the mom because childcare costs would be roughly equal to what she's earning. Outside the US? Childcare services are far superior. Maybe one parent earns a comfortable living and the family has decided they'd prefer to raise their kids at home and be there for each milestone. Maybe the child has special needs and would not do well under the supervision of others. Maybe one parent plans to stay at home with the child until he enters school, at which point they will return to the workforce. Whatever the reason, it's their goddamn choice. Every family is different and has to make the best choice based on their situation. Now, kindly get your giant head out of your ass, because you're so full of shit that your face is fucking blue.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on February 21, 2015, 09:00:55 pm
Lexi, you're a fucking moron. Seriously, it's hilarious how unbelievably blind you are. You have no idea how difficult it is to take care of children on a daily fucking basis, along with maintaining a home. You know what kids do? They cry, shit everywhere, break furniture, eat everything, throw tantrums, shit some more, eat some more... the list is endless.

And yet working parents manage them as well as stay at home ones despite having a job.

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Do you know how expensive childcare is in the US? So expensive that returning to work is often utterly pointless for the mom because childcare costs would be roughly equal to what she's earning.

The average cost of Daycare is $11,666. The salary a full time minimum wage worker makes is $15,080 a year. Even if someone works minimum wage they still have enough money to cover daycare,. And even if it was the same cost, then they would still be making a net positive after the child goes to school for the next 13 years.

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Maybe one parent plans to stay at home with the child until he enters school, at which point they will return to the workforce.

The post was clearly referring to those who stay at home even after the child doesn't need rearing.

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Whatever the reason, it's their goddamn choice.

A lot of actions are choices. Doesn't mean they're good ones.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on February 22, 2015, 01:54:32 am
Lexi, you're a fucking moron. Seriously, it's hilarious how unbelievably blind you are. You have no idea how difficult it is to take care of children on a daily fucking basis, along with maintaining a home. You know what kids do? They cry, shit everywhere, break furniture, eat everything, throw tantrums, shit some more, eat some more... the list is endless.

And yet working parents manage them as well as stay at home ones despite having a job.

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Do you know how expensive childcare is in the US? So expensive that returning to work is often utterly pointless for the mom because childcare costs would be roughly equal to what she's earning.

The average cost of Daycare is $11,666. The salary a full time minimum wage worker makes is $15,080 a year. Even if someone works minimum wage they still have enough money to cover daycare,. And even if it was the same cost, then they would still be making a net positive after the child goes to school for the next 13 years.

Ironically enough, it's people who have low incomes who are more likely to have two income houses since they need it to make ends meet.

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Maybe one parent plans to stay at home with the child until he enters school, at which point they will return to the workforce.

The post was clearly referring to those who stay at home even after the child doesn't need rearing.

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Whatever the reason, it's their goddamn choice.

A lot of actions are choices. Doesn't mean they're good ones.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on February 22, 2015, 04:25:14 am
I was going to start talking about The Two-Income Trap and make an economic argument, but I realised the answer is much simpler:

Subsidising someone to stay at home and look after kids or whatever is an individual choice. You are free to demand that your hypothetical wife work, she is free to refuse, and then you leave to individual people to balance their preferences over money, free time, child-rearing, housekeeping, confirming to traditional household models, and the like. You may reach a different solution than other people! That's allowed to happen.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on February 22, 2015, 04:51:37 am
Also there is evidence that it is better for the kids to be at home longer rather than being sent to kindergarten as soon as possible. Some people consider that the well being of their children is more valuable than money.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 22, 2015, 08:35:05 am
Also there is evidence that it is better for the kids to be at home longer rather than being sent to kindergarten as soon as possible. Some people consider that the well being of their children is more valuable than money.

Bullshit, Ayn Rand says it ain't so, so it ain't so!  WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on February 22, 2015, 09:21:42 am
Cataclysm, there are quite a few stay-at-home Dad blogs out there. And they are not about sleeping in late, watching porn, and letting the kids clean the house and raise themselves. That rant you posted has a very strong reek of moldy fedora.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on February 22, 2015, 12:15:10 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/xVXy8Jn.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Canadian Mojo on February 22, 2015, 01:42:17 pm
The average cost of Daycare is $11,666. The salary a full time minimum wage worker makes is $15,080 a year. Even if someone works minimum wage they still have enough money to cover daycare,. And even if it was the same cost, then they would still be making a net positive after the child goes to school for the next 13 years.

There is a lot of  shit you said that I could easily tear apart, but let's just examine this little part since only it seems to be about money for you.

Here is the reality of your full time job: you have doctors appointments, sick kids, PD days, extended vacation days that non-government employees don't get, and two months of fucking summer vacation that require require somebody take time off from work because daycare doesn't cover them. Let's round it to about 50 working days, or say 1/7 of your theoretical full time paycheck. That $15080 goes to $12925. This means that your net profit amounts to $1259.

How does the spouse get to work? Usually that requires a vehicle. That vehicle will need annual registration, insurance, maintenance, and fuel. This assumes you have already paid for the vehicle and aren't making lease payments on top of that, and if that is the case you still have to think about the eventual replacement costs. So now that $1259 annual net income is reduced to somewhere between fuck-all and negative fuck-all.

Now, I don't know about your particular tax laws, but my write downs and tax credits for having a child and a stay at home wife work out to a hell of a lot more than the optimistic vehicle-less profit of $1259, and in fact probably work out to more than $3080 figure you come up with if you conveniently ignore all the costs involved.

In summation, she is costing you money by staying home with the kids: bullshit.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on February 22, 2015, 05:59:22 pm
Holy fuck I've never seen Cataclysm go this far up his own ass.

Ironbite-you've really bought into this two income trap haven't you?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on February 22, 2015, 10:24:54 pm
I'm going to re-post that rant in Dumbest Protest Signs, yeah.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on February 22, 2015, 10:43:07 pm
I thought he had to joking when he first posted that thing. I can't believe this argument is seriously going on.

This is Lexi, dude.  I remind you that this is a kid who thought keeping himself from going into puberty (or further into it, I forget which) was a good idea.  Motherfucker's got a skull so thick it could be considered battleship plating.

When and where was this? How do you even go about doing such a thing, and why?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ironchew on February 22, 2015, 11:08:44 pm
I thought he had to joking when he first posted that thing. I can't believe this argument is seriously going on.

This is Lexi, dude.  I remind you that this is a kid who thought keeping himself from going into puberty (or further into it, I forget which) was a good idea.  Motherfucker's got a skull so thick it could be considered battleship plating.

When and where was this? How do you even go about doing such a thing, and why?

Seconded. I would love to see a F&B thread explaining the details here.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Random Gal on February 22, 2015, 11:48:52 pm
I thought he had to joking when he first posted that thing. I can't believe this argument is seriously going on.

This is Lexi, dude.  I remind you that this is a kid who thought keeping himself from going into puberty (or further into it, I forget which) was a good idea.  Motherfucker's got a skull so thick it could be considered battleship plating.

When and where was this? How do you even go about doing such a thing, and why?

Hormone blockers, which are used for just that purpose on transgender children (and then followed up with testosterone for FTMs or estrogen for MTFs).

(I'm not approving of whatever Lexi said, just giving an example of how it can be done, along with actual legitimate reasons for why someone would do it)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 23, 2015, 08:10:06 am
This is Lexi, dude.  I remind you that this is a kid who thought keeping himself from going into puberty (or further into it, I forget which) was a good idea.  Motherfucker's got a skull so thick it could be considered battleship plating.

When and where was this? How do you even go about doing such a thing, and why?

It was amongst his first posts on the old Proboards forum, when he was known as Lexikon.  If memory serves, he basically wanted to use hormone blockers to stop his voice from becoming deeper, body hair from growing, and other such things oft associated with the advancement of puberty.  Basically everyone told him that was a critically fucked up idea unless he was transgender (which I don't believe he is) and his posts on that topic, from then on, were basically "BUT, LEG HAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRR!," only with his trademark overly pompous, quasi-intellectual tone.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on February 23, 2015, 10:47:19 am
Holy fuck I've never seen Cataclysm go this far up his own ass.

Odd you find this worse than sterilizing prisoners. But then again you stated it would be best if people were unable to have children until they were willing and able, which might have been subtle agreement.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on February 23, 2015, 11:27:21 am
Holy fuck I've never seen Cataclysm go this far up his own ass.

Odd you find this worse than sterilizing prisoners. But then again you stated it would be best if people were unable to have children until they were willing and able, which might have been subtle agreement.

Just because I argued for a better biological system for reproduction doesn't even come close to you arguing that stay at home parents have it easy my boy.

Ironbite- and is this really the hill you wish to die on?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 23, 2015, 04:45:01 pm
This is Lexi, dude.  I remind you that this is a kid who thought keeping himself from going into puberty (or further into it, I forget which) was a good idea.  Motherfucker's got a skull so thick it could be considered battleship plating.

When and where was this? How do you even go about doing such a thing, and why?

It was amongst his first posts on the old Proboards forum, when he was known as Lexikon.  If memory serves, he basically wanted to use hormone blockers to stop his voice from becoming deeper, body hair from growing, and other such things oft associated with the advancement of puberty.  Basically everyone told him that was a critically fucked up idea unless he was transgender (which I don't believe he is) and his posts on that topic, from then on, were basically "BUT, LEG HAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRR!," only with his trademark overly pompous, quasi-intellectual tone.

So he stunted his own growth?  Well, that explains a lot.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 23, 2015, 08:00:20 pm
I don't think he ever went thru with it, likely because its hella expensive.  But, yeah other than that, he's fairly well stunted.  Its funny, considering his sig-quote, and likely "person he looks up to," is Vene, otherwise known as an intelligent, if abrasive, person that made posts of appreciable quality and wasn't an obtuse knobend.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on February 23, 2015, 09:17:07 pm
Well...until we drove him off about sugar.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 23, 2015, 09:27:05 pm
Well...until we drove him off about sugar.

I dunno about anyone else, but I was mostly on his ass for being a complete dick with the way he presented his argument.  There's a difference between pointing out facts and being a pompous douche about it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on March 09, 2015, 02:38:15 am
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Meanwhile in the comment section half the people are bragging over how they are doing perfectly fine since they WORK FOR A LIVING rather than whine about needing "handouts" to survive and how "lions don't concern themselves with the opinions of sheep."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mythbuster43 on March 09, 2015, 08:08:34 am
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Meanwhile in the comment section half the people are bragging over how they are doing perfectly fine since they WORK FOR A LIVING rather than whine about needing "handouts" to survive and how "lions don't concern themselves with the opinions of sheep."

Do they not realize that minimum wage counts as work?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on March 09, 2015, 08:25:35 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1475983_971448556229336_5892075328117249767_n.jpg?oh=da7b99b9a600dd4dc8be16f459ee9e8d&oe=557D1975&__gda__=1433418812_7b5ca037f660c208a20a579ab75f167a)

Meanwhile in the comment section half the people are bragging over how they are doing perfectly fine since they WORK FOR A LIVING rather than whine about needing "handouts" to survive and how "lions don't concern themselves with the opinions of sheep."


That's somewhere between a very creative interpretation of "afford" and a lie, actually. This is a more complete analysis, (http://slatestarcodex.com/2013/04/04/lies-damned-lies-and-facebook-part-1-of-%E2%88%9E/) but the basic idea is that, for the purposes of that statistic, "afford" is defined as "be able to pay for rent using no more than 30% of your income". And it only counts one person's earnings when you're talking about a two-bedroom apartment. And it assumes average prices, while someone on minimum wage would be renting something on the lower end of the scale.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on March 09, 2015, 09:41:06 am

Do they not realize that minimum wage counts as work?
Well, obviously they would need to have TWO jobs or should move in with someone or something.

That's somewhere between a very creative interpretation of "afford" and a lie, actually. This is a more complete analysis, (http://slatestarcodex.com/2013/04/04/lies-damned-lies-and-facebook-part-1-of-%E2%88%9E/) but the basic idea is that, for the purposes of that statistic, "afford" is defined as "be able to pay for rent using no more than 30% of your income". And it only counts one person's earnings when you're talking about a two-bedroom apartment. And it assumes average prices, while someone on minimum wage would be renting something on the lower end of the scale.
Ah, didn't know that. Still, it means that single parent can't afford a sizeable apartment.

...That reminds me that a buddies of mine can't get a loan for an apartment because according to the calculations the banks use they can't afford to pay it back, despite currently being able to pay even more money for the rental apartment they have... The banker tried to explain that they can't afford their current lifestyle and when proven wrong simply explained that they can't give the loan because they computer program disagrees with the reality.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on March 09, 2015, 09:54:36 am
This is Lexi, dude.  I remind you that this is a kid who thought keeping himself from going into puberty (or further into it, I forget which) was a good idea.  Motherfucker's got a skull so thick it could be considered battleship plating.

When and where was this? How do you even go about doing such a thing, and why?

It was amongst his first posts on the old Proboards forum, when he was known as Lexikon.  If memory serves, he basically wanted to use hormone blockers to stop his voice from becoming deeper, body hair from growing, and other such things oft associated with the advancement of puberty.  Basically everyone told him that was a critically fucked up idea unless he was transgender (which I don't believe he is) and his posts on that topic, from then on, were basically "BUT, LEG HAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRR!," only with his trademark overly pompous, quasi-intellectual tone.

So he stunted his own growth?  Well, that explains a lot.


A guy on this board tried to become a literal Peter Pan and stop growing up? That's....odd....to say the least.

To Mr. Cataclysm; Sorry, my friend but as much as you'd love to preserve the magic & wonder of childhood, I'm afraid, you'll have to grow up like the rest of us.




Do they not realize that minimum wage counts as work?
Well, obviously they would need to have TWO jobs or should move in with someone or something.

That's somewhere between a very creative interpretation of "afford" and a lie, actually. This is a more complete analysis, (http://slatestarcodex.com/2013/04/04/lies-damned-lies-and-facebook-part-1-of-%E2%88%9E/) but the basic idea is that, for the purposes of that statistic, "afford" is defined as "be able to pay for rent using no more than 30% of your income". And it only counts one person's earnings when you're talking about a two-bedroom apartment. And it assumes average prices, while someone on minimum wage would be renting something on the lower end of the scale.
Ah, didn't know that. Still, it means that single parent can't afford a sizeable apartment.

...That reminds me that a buddies of mine can't get a loan for an apartment because according to the calculations the banks use they can't afford to pay it back, despite currently being able to pay even more money for the rental apartment they have... The banker tried to explain that they can't afford their current lifestyle and when proven wrong simply explained that they can't give the loan because they computer program disagrees with the reality.

GAH! It's like they don't want people to own homes!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 09, 2015, 03:38:18 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/hur5fl.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on March 09, 2015, 06:07:24 pm

Do they not realize that minimum wage counts as work?
Well, obviously they would need to have TWO jobs or should move in with someone or something.

That's somewhere between a very creative interpretation of "afford" and a lie, actually. This is a more complete analysis, (http://slatestarcodex.com/2013/04/04/lies-damned-lies-and-facebook-part-1-of-%E2%88%9E/) but the basic idea is that, for the purposes of that statistic, "afford" is defined as "be able to pay for rent using no more than 30% of your income". And it only counts one person's earnings when you're talking about a two-bedroom apartment. And it assumes average prices, while someone on minimum wage would be renting something on the lower end of the scale.
Ah, didn't know that. Still, it means that single parent can't afford a sizeable apartment.

...That reminds me that a buddies of mine can't get a loan for an apartment because according to the calculations the banks use they can't afford to pay it back, despite currently being able to pay even more money for the rental apartment they have... The banker tried to explain that they can't afford their current lifestyle and when proven wrong simply explained that they can't give the loan because they computer program disagrees with the reality.

GAH! It's like they don't want people to own homes!

They don't. How else would they keep collecting rent?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on March 09, 2015, 07:29:12 pm
But presumably most banks don't get money from renting apartments, and do get money from people taking out loans?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on March 09, 2015, 09:15:26 pm
Those two guys should switch to another bank.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 10, 2015, 09:55:33 am
But presumably most banks don't get money from renting apartments, and do get money from people taking out loans?

This is true.  However, apartments may have their own, far larger debts from which the banks get more money.  Also, homes can end up being paid off, apartment rent is constant.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on March 10, 2015, 10:03:44 am
But presumably most banks don't get money from renting apartments, and do get money from people taking out loans?

This is true.  However, apartments may have their own, far larger debts from which the banks get more money.  Also, homes can end up being paid off, apartment rent is constant.

Finland has a slightly different system than USA. It is just that the banks are overcautious in giving loans, beacuse no one wins if the customer can't pay back the loan. (And the market is bad enough already without driving people into bankruptcy just for pennies.)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 10, 2015, 10:17:33 am
Askold, that ain't a slight difference, that's a god damned chasm.  Here in Eagleland, you'd be lucky if the bank decides to lube up before violently fucking you as hard as they can.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rookie on March 10, 2015, 12:38:09 pm
(Working mothers vs stay at home mom's crap that Cata was displaying ignorance on) The only other person on this board I would really like to hear from now is Mrs. Rookie. Prepare for legitimate righteous indignation from her.

Sorry. I missed this whole thread due to getting caught up in a few bottles of white wine and a particularly captivating story line from General Hospital. Let me tell you, the girls and I had much to talk about while getting our hair done!

OK, so while I'm not exactly a stay at home dad, I work at night and raise the kids during the day. I could be making much more money, but not really. See, the big money not being made by me is also not bbeing spent. Child care is expensive here in the US. I'm looking at close to $700 a week for my 5 still not in school yet plus after school care for the other 3. I'm able to spend the day raising them. Plus I'm able to do various homeowner fixes to the house. So far this winter I've been able to fix 3 broken pipes and a couple windows. I would have had to hire a contractor or limit myself to weekend projects. For shits and grins I got an estimate to fix one of the pipes, the leaking wastewater pipe. $900. I was able to fix it for a little less than $120. Because I had the time.

 2 hours of chores. Ok.  So you're going to compare me to some jack ass slacker at your office. Without knowing my work ethic or what it is I actually do, you're going to put my work duties as laundry, dusting, sweeping (or vacuuming if there's carpeting), windexing, cooking, and general straightening up. It's that about right, did I miss anything? Ok. To just maintain, to do enough to not get fired, you're probably right. But who the hell wants that? And for you to assume that's it (based on your 2 hours a day, that's what you're assuming) is more than a little insulting. And it's an insult based on ignorance.

Now it's about time we think of the children. I am raising them. Their dad is raising them during the day. And their mom at night. What prove tag would you put on that? My kids, all 8, of them I know. I mean I really know them. I'm able to take an active part in their lives. These kids are confident well adjusted individuals. These are not latch key kids. My daughters know, without question they KNOW, that Daddy and Mommy love them. The self respect they have blows away any from someone coming from a more traditional house where patents leave in the morning and come back in the evening.

Oh. And since I'm able to cook for my family (or show off as Mrs. Rookie would say), I'll put a mortgage payment that they not only eat tastier food, but healthier as well. In a nation that's getting more obese by the day, I'm able to feed them good food. In my stay at home dad house, we understand the microwave is for heating food, not cooking.

MellORL, I know you said you want to hear from Mrs. Rookie. I'm sorry. She's at work now. She works 9 hours a day and is kinda tired at the end of it. Well, about as tired as any office worker who comes home at the end of the day. It's killing her that she's not at home with the kids, but in 2008 I lost my job and she didn't. That's how the cards fell, that's the hand we're playing. Something else I bet you didn't think of, Cata. So she comes home, does any straightening up left plus dishes from supper. She plays with the kids for like an hour, then gets them ready for bed. And I'm not going to see her til Thursday, my next day off.

Hey Cata, are you a conservative by chance? I ask because you brought up that unless the family is some quiverfull fuckwit, blah blah blah. I ask because it's been my experience that is only small government conservatives that concern themselves about the choices that families make like this.

ETA: I'm very proud of what it is I do during the day. I'm proud and I'm very happy, consider myself lucky for the ability to do this. Self sufficiency has been an obsession of mine for a long time. If you think is better to pawn off your primary responsibility, fine. I disagree. But I'll give your choices the exact same level of respect you're showing me for mine. That's fair, right?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on March 10, 2015, 06:59:07 pm
Like.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rookie on March 10, 2015, 09:08:29 pm
MellORL, I asked Mrs. Rookie if she wanted to reply. She said what with me sitting on my fat lazy ass and all, we don't have quite enough to feed internet trolls. Sorry.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on March 10, 2015, 10:09:57 pm
The fact that you speak as a working man/house husband would get the point across better to Cataclysm...if he can stomach that much crow while reading it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on March 10, 2015, 10:29:53 pm
Or even read it to begin with.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 11, 2015, 05:59:00 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/21or68x.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on March 11, 2015, 11:11:35 pm
Burn!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on March 11, 2015, 11:14:16 pm
Burn!

(http://constitutionalmilitia.org/wp-content/uploads/burningmarxforheat.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on March 11, 2015, 11:25:05 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/21or68x.jpg)

Wow! That's powerful!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Dakota Bob on March 13, 2015, 02:20:07 pm
Straight, and right to the point. That's how ya do it, bois!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 16, 2015, 12:46:25 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/30kdbnq.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on March 16, 2015, 01:12:36 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/30kdbnq.jpg)

AWESOME!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 07, 2015, 10:48:24 pm
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/943/561/990.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 07, 2015, 11:15:37 pm
(https://smilinglatvian.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/tumblr_m2ckojj43x1r2c5kao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 09, 2015, 05:01:45 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/sg3at3.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Id82 on April 09, 2015, 07:11:33 pm
uh.... what?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 09, 2015, 07:14:57 pm
uh.... what?

Basically, it's a fairly accurate portrayal of the "white genocide" assholes.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on April 12, 2015, 06:10:10 pm
uh.... what?

Basically, it's a fairly accurate portrayal of the "white genocide" assholes.


On that same token, I made this.....
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f226/SpukiKitty/General%20Reactions/7a14943f-3925-4ff3-a14d-91656cb8395b_zpsb7xo2zrw.png) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/SpukiKitty/media/General%20Reactions/7a14943f-3925-4ff3-a14d-91656cb8395b_zpsb7xo2zrw.png.html)
....a rebuttal to that royally annoying meme cranked-out by that bigot, Bob Whittaker.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Anti-racist_is_a_code_word_for_anti-white

Waddaya think,guys?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 16, 2015, 11:53:41 am
(https://kpbs.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2013/02/19/MAKERS_RightsProtest1969_tx800.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 27, 2015, 11:55:31 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/262ldn4.jpg)

Have I ever mentioned how much I hate BSL?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Nemo on April 27, 2015, 11:24:13 pm
I realize this might be controversial, but I'm putting this here anyways:

(https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11175055_691553690971145_459465730157523213_n.jpg?oh=15f7cefd1002277af1b05e5cf16eb068&oe=55DBC782)

I realize that there are legitimate racial grievances at play here, but at the same time, there are millions of well meaning but ultimately clueless Americans who will see the rioting going on and will turn against the protesters. Pretty much everyone on Facebook from my family is one example, as well as several high school and college friends who are actually somewhat moderate politically.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 27, 2015, 11:30:13 pm
I'm seeing that fucking rhetoric all over Twitter tonight. I'm so fucking sick of it. It really shows how completely out of touch white America is with the issues of race in this country.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 27, 2015, 11:44:19 pm
I'm seeing that fucking rhetoric all over Twitter tonight. I'm so fucking sick of it. It really shows how completely out of touch white America is with the issues of race in this country.

Well, to be honest, they have a point.  When you get right down to it, riots rarely help when it comes to race relations.  They also usually harm the cities they occur in.  Look at Watts.  Look at Detroit.  Look at Newark.  If MLK had lived to see the long-term effects, I think he would have changed his tune.  There can be an explanation for these riots, but there can be no justification.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 27, 2015, 11:50:25 pm
And way to show that you're just as out of touch.

Here's the thing: NO ONE IS EXCUSING THE RIOTS. There is no justification. There is no one trying to offer a justification. You say "there can be an explanation for these riots, but there can be no justification." GOOD THING NO ONE SAID THERE WAS.

The people that repeat the "MLK didn't need to riot" rhetoric are out of touch because they don't care about the cause of the violence. Baltimore's mayor tried to give the protestors a "safe space to destroy property." The people don't want that. They want the police to STOP KILLING THEM.

The media is going on about "how will the community recover" and about the collateral damage and how horrible the violence is. You know what they're NOT talking about? The cause. WHY the people have taken to violence.

Don't sit there and lecture me about there being no excuse for the riots because I ALREADY FUCKING KNOW THAT.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 27, 2015, 11:56:09 pm
And way to show that you're just as out of touch.

Here's the thing: NO ONE IS EXCUSING THE RIOTS. There is no justification. There is no one trying to offer a justification. You say "there can be an explanation for these riots, but there can be no justification." GOOD THING NO ONE SAID THERE WAS.

The people that repeat the "MLK didn't need to riot" rhetoric are out of touch because they don't care about the cause of the violence. Baltimore's mayor tried to give the protestors a "safe space to destroy property." The people don't want that. They want the police to STOP KILLING THEM.

The media is going on about "how will the community recover" and about the collateral damage and how horrible the violence is. You know what they're NOT talking about? The cause. WHY the people have taken to violence.

Don't sit there and lecture me about there being no excuse for the riots because I ALREADY FUCKING KNOW THAT.

Okay, maybe I jumped the gun a little.  You're right, the media was negligent bordering on criminal when it came to covering the case.  However, I'd say it's completely valid to be worried about Baltimore's future.  The human brain is better at multitasking than people give it credit for.  I can sympathize with Baltimore's black community while, at the same time, being concerned about the riots.

Which is why we need to focus on the root causes of civil unrest.  Inequality, poverty, and other social ills are the real evil.  Furthermore, preventing riots is far less expensive and difficult than recovering from them.  As Benjamin Franklin said, "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on April 28, 2015, 11:34:03 am
Okay, so how many ounces will it take to prevent BPD from giving fatal or crippling "rough rides" in the paddy wagons ever again? That tradition with that PD goes back for decades. It's just one part of the toxic culture of BPD. Grey is just the latest victim they've murdered, and the first one to really get a lot of media attention - only because of residents with phone cameras initiating the focus. It's sure as shit not hard to understand why rage riots happen. Maybe whittle away and fire the entire PD over time and start over from scratch. Recruit vets from within the community to train at police academy. Just like Ferguson, BPD is a preponderantly white force policing a predominantly black city.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 28, 2015, 11:39:42 am
Okay, so how many ounces will it take to prevent BPD from giving fatal or crippling "rough rides" in the paddy wagons ever again? That tradition with that PD goes back for decades. It's just one part of the toxic culture of BPD. Grey is just the latest victim they've murdered, and the first one to really get a lot of media attention - only because of residents with phone cameras initiating the focus. It's sure as shit not hard to understand why rage riots happen. Maybe whittle away and fire the entire PD over time and start over from scratch. Recruit vets from within the community to train at police academy. Just like Ferguson, BPD is a preponderantly white force policing a predominantly black city.

There's still hope for the BPD, however.  If the LAPD could change for the better, so can they.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on April 28, 2015, 11:43:59 am
I'm of the opinion that a toxic PD is just the most obvious symptom of a corrupt/toxic local government - the good ol' boy system devolved into it's penultimate form. Wealthy business people with ruthless contempt of the underclasses get elected, run the place into the ground via good old fashioned graft, and mold the police department into their praetorian guard.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rookie on April 28, 2015, 11:56:09 am
Do other cities not recruit from their communities? Because that's where Baltimore gets its police officers from. There's a lot of talk about what the police are doing wrong. Ok. There's a lot that they could be doing differently, doing better. But the rioters aren't burning the police stations down. It's pharmacies and convenience stores. It's a nursing home. It's, well, it's their community. In this case it's my community as well. And, for whatever is worth, any guesses as to skin colors of the pieces of the businesses and other property being destroyed?

The answer isn't as simple as the police need to stop being racist. That's so simplistic as to be wrong. Want to see for real concrete change for the better? Get the police and communities working together.

I'd like to go on a little bit more here, but my kids have been seeing this happening in their home town since Saturday and are worried. They're not seeing the police burn buildings. It's scaring my small children and right now they want Daddy to make everything alright.

As of right this second as I'm typing this there is a group of people walking up the road towards my house with baseball bats. They're about 1.5 miles away heading this direction. Right now we aren't worried about toxic police departments. But please, go back to the discussion about how is the police I should be worried about.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on April 28, 2015, 12:31:44 pm
Stay safe, rookie. Liberty City in Miami rioted while my dad was hospitalized two blocks away. I visited him anyway. It was terrifying.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rookie on April 28, 2015, 12:39:32 pm
Thanks Mellen. Kids are playing in the basement. The house is locked up and I'm in an easy chair right by the front door with a kind of anxious dog at my feet. I have a sandwich and a pot of coffee. Not much to do right now except wait to see what happens. I've been here before once or twice. You're right. Terrifying is a good word for it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on April 28, 2015, 01:45:47 pm
I'm of the opinion that a toxic PD is just the most obvious symptom of a corrupt/toxic local government - the good ol' boy system devolved into it's penultimate form. Wealthy business people with ruthless contempt of the underclasses get elected, run the place into the ground via good old fashioned graft, and mold the police department into their praetorian guard.
FTFY

Okay, but seriously could we stop acting like all these cases of police abuse are just the because of poverty or mental illness or something? We tried just focusing poverty and shit for a while, but all that amounted to very little with the southern strategy and Ronnie's War on drugs.

Hell, for a while during reconstruction blacks almost had a shot at achieving social progress, and it was FUBARed thanks to a combination of vigilantes, law enforcement, and Jim Crow.

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rookie on April 28, 2015, 01:55:13 pm
The angry mob with baseball bats has been disbursed a little more than 3/4 a mile away. So all's clear.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 28, 2015, 02:13:18 pm
Poverty, while not the only reason the situation has reached a boiling point, is a pretty big symptom of the problem black America faces.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on April 28, 2015, 02:35:13 pm
Poverty, while not the only reason the situation has reached a boiling point, is a pretty big symptom of the problem black America faces.
I know that, what I'm saying is that it's useless to focus on poverty if you don't fix institutionalize racism first.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 30, 2015, 05:04:29 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/20gzaiw.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Id82 on May 01, 2015, 06:50:14 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11188316_10204664325901641_5226504430240435615_n.jpg?oh=3fa2726f42edbfb9c7e55bab56caefb3&oe=55E4070C&__gda__=1441119770_35bdd004e339ed4b6c97f779b020a5d7)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on May 02, 2015, 10:31:38 am
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/ao0AWYg_460s.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 02, 2015, 03:40:43 pm
That's...kind of a kick to the stomach.  A much-needed one for some folks, but still, damn.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on May 02, 2015, 11:19:45 pm
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/ao0AWYg_460s.jpg)

Wow...just...wow.... :'(
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on May 04, 2015, 12:22:20 am
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on May 04, 2015, 06:15:30 pm
I thought Rose Quartz was trying to save the humans!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on May 07, 2015, 10:13:48 pm
To quote a friend of mine on this one:  "The Universe is cold, uncaring, and does its very best to kill you dead every single moment you exist."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 31, 2015, 01:43:37 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/kagswj.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on June 01, 2015, 01:35:36 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/kagswj.jpg)

*huggles the sad bull-doggeh*

I think they should just go with the name "Staffordshire Terrier" or "Staffordshire Bulldog" or simply a "Staffordshire". "Pit Bull" is just nasty sounding and refers to their history as dog-fighting dogs.

While they do have an innate excitable temper & ludicrously huge jaw strength, it's still awful how they're looked upon as four-legged abominations from Inferno. With a lot of love & good care, they're just another lovable, loyal, intelligent, cute dog.

Pete from the Our Gang/Little Rascals & Buster Brown's pooch sidekick, Tige, were Staffordshires....nobody saw them as the pooch equivalent of 1954 Godzilla!

And looook.....
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f226/SpukiKitty/Widdle%20Fuzzie%20Wuzzies/Other%20Critters/bulldogpuppycute_zpsqty0pw07.png) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/SpukiKitty/media/Widdle%20Fuzzie%20Wuzzies/Other%20Critters/bulldogpuppycute_zpsqty0pw07.png.html)
.....KAWAII



Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Damen on June 01, 2015, 01:47:45 pm
Actually, Staffies and Pits are different breeds and the bite strength Pits have is actually less (http://www.pbrc.net/mediacenter/mediaqa.html) than German Shepherds and Rottweilers.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on June 01, 2015, 10:48:03 pm
Actually, Staffies and Pits are different breeds and the bite strength Pits have is actually less (http://www.pbrc.net/mediacenter/mediaqa.html) than German Shepherds and Rottweilers.

Great point! One should tell that to anti-bulldog dorks.

Heck, dorky dogs like Dachshunds were bred to hunt badgers in their burrows and we all know how fierce badgers are.

There needs to be a better term out there than "PIT bull" anybody know any?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rookie on June 02, 2015, 11:50:33 am
Hey Barb, against my better judgment, is like to give you a ray of hope. Once upon a time German shepherds were getting this exact kind of treatment. Then it was doberman pinchers. After that, the rottweiler. Now it's the pit bull. Suburban housewives with nothing better to do will always be scared of perceived threats.

Tl:Dr version: this too shall pass. It'll be another breed in a few years.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Canadian Mojo on June 02, 2015, 06:56:29 pm
Hey Barb, against my better judgment, is like to give you a ray of hope. Once upon a time German shepherds were getting this exact kind of treatment. Then it was doberman pinchers. After that, the rottweiler. Now it's the pit bull. Suburban housewives with nothing better to do will always be scared of perceived threats.

Tl:Dr version: this too shall pass. It'll be another breed in a few years.
Based on sheer numbers I see around here, I'm thinking Boxers might be the next ones. They're awesome dogs but so popular (if my corner of the world is any indication) that it is only a matter of time before the breed goes for a shit thanks to puppy mills. At that point they've got the size, power, and looks to make them public enemy number one because of a few bad apples.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on June 02, 2015, 07:03:25 pm
Hey Barb, against my better judgment, is like to give you a ray of hope. Once upon a time German shepherds were getting this exact kind of treatment. Then it was doberman pinchers. After that, the rottweiler. Now it's the pit bull. Suburban housewives with nothing better to do will always be scared of perceived threats.

Tl:Dr version: this too shall pass. It'll be another breed in a few years.

Why do people like moral panics so much? Are they emotional masochists? Wouldn't watching a scary movie or riding an incredibly badass roller coaster be more fun?

Really, people LOVE these "panic" things! What's the point? You had junk like Rock music, RPGs, new subcultures, Pixie Stix-snorting, video game sex scenes, "Rainbow Parties", "Jenkem", etc. If there isn't something to fear, make up something and make a mountain out of a mole hill!

Then there's all this "Doomsday" type stuff!

Then email rumors with "warnings" about mythical gang initiations involving maniacs in car backseats who sap your precious bodily fluids to use as a Pepsi ingredient or whatever.

What's the point? It's so stupid!


Thank you for the ray of hope, though. *HUGS*
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rookie on June 02, 2015, 11:24:24 pm
They don't see that. They see a poor little blonde haired girl mauled by the kind of dog the drug dealer had in the movies their husbands like. It's true that a "correct" pit (based on breed standards set forth by various dog enthusiast clubs, most notably the American Kennel Club) calls for a friendly dog who absolutely dotes on children. But let's be honest. You and I both know that ain't always the case. Popularity and the piss poor breeding practices it leads to have destroyed a reputation. But again, this too shall pass. Sanctimommy will move onto other issues du jour.

I want you to appreciate two facts. First good pit bulls are wonderful dogs. I've met so many pitties I wouldn't hesitate to call Good [dog's gender]. But I don't dig them. I'm more into hounds and bird dogs. Never had a pit, never will. But a beagle isn't for everyone. Nor a chessie nor a springer spaniel.

Second, I've never in my life worked this hard to make a nouveau hippie feel better. Ever.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on June 03, 2015, 12:49:12 am
They don't see that. They see a poor little blonde haired girl mauled by the kind of dog the drug dealer had in the movies their husbands like. It's true that a "correct" pit (based on breed standards set forth by various dog enthusiast clubs, most notably the American Kennel Club) calls for a friendly dog who absolutely dotes on children. But let's be honest. You and I both know that ain't always the case. Popularity and the piss poor breeding practices it leads to have destroyed a reputation. But again, this too shall pass. Sanctimommy will move onto other issues du jour.

I want you to appreciate two facts. First good pit bulls are wonderful dogs. I've met so many pitties I wouldn't hesitate to call Good [dog's gender]. But I don't dig them. I'm more into hounds and bird dogs. Never had a pit, never will. But a beagle isn't for everyone. Nor a chessie nor a springer spaniel.

Second, I've never in my life worked this hard to make a nouveau hippie feel better. Ever.


Well, thank you for going beyond your regular capabilities.

"Nouveau Hippie", I like that.....  8)

May you all (even grumps like Art & the two Iron folks) feel FOREVER PINK!.....
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f226/SpukiKitty/MY%20LITTLE%20PONY%20GIFS/51d1a71f8b1ea_zps0cw4nmzg.gif) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/SpukiKitty/media/MY%20LITTLE%20PONY%20GIFS/51d1a71f8b1ea_zps0cw4nmzg.gif.html)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Canadian Mojo on June 03, 2015, 11:20:08 am
But a beagle isn't for everyone.

<snicker>

Noisy, willful, bed hogging little monsters who egg their younger brothers on so they get in trouble and just kiss you more when you say "eww, yuck! Doggie kisses."

Wouldn't change them for the world.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on June 03, 2015, 11:30:27 am
But a beagle isn't for everyone.

<snicker>

Noisy, willful, bed hogging little monsters who egg their younger brothers on so they get in trouble and just kiss you more when you say "eww, yuck! Doggie kisses."

Wouldn't change them for the world.

Beagles make awesome cartoon characters, too!....
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f226/SpukiKitty/dcec20b4-0c64-4a46-b371-9e82f6291f3c_zpspnk6r8wy.png) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/SpukiKitty/media/dcec20b4-0c64-4a46-b371-9e82f6291f3c_zpspnk6r8wy.png.html)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rookie on June 03, 2015, 11:26:45 pm
Also Garfield's roommate Odie.  But if you need a rabbit ran into the ground, there's your dog.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 11, 2015, 08:42:21 am
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/20r79kk.jpg)

Chairwoman Pao is going to kill Reddit.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on June 11, 2015, 01:39:11 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/20r79kk.jpg)

Chairwoman Pao is going to kill Reddit.
(http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/a/ae/free_speech.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 11, 2015, 01:57:25 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/20r79kk.jpg)

Chairwoman Pao is going to kill Reddit.
(http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/a/ae/free_speech.png)

Actually, I did a little more research, and found out that it was (supposedly) being banned because of harassment and brigading.  I guess that's fair... or it would be, if they also went after SRS.  But they're not, so it's not.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: ironbite on June 11, 2015, 02:09:41 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/20r79kk.jpg)

Chairwoman Pao is going to kill Reddit.
(http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/a/ae/free_speech.png)

THANK YOU!

And any of these idiots who are complaining about the first amendment being violated, guess what.  It doesn't extend to the cyberworld.

Ironbite-you're at the whims and wishes of a dictator known as the site owner.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 11, 2015, 02:45:24 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/20r79kk.jpg)

Chairwoman Pao is going to kill Reddit.
(http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/a/ae/free_speech.png)

THANK YOU!

And any of these idiots who are complaining about the first amendment being violated, guess what.  It doesn't extend to the cyberworld.

Ironbite-you're at the whims and wishes of a dictator known as the site owner.

Oh, I agree, Reddit has the right as a business to do what they want with their site, as long as it doesn't violate the law.  However, I have the right as a consumer to criticize them and take my business elsewhere.

See, here's the thing: I think Reddit has ulterior motives for banning fatpeoplehate.  They have yet to produce any evidence that it's actually involved in harassment, nor have they gone after SRS, which is notorious for its enablement and encouragement of brigading and other malicious activities.  Furthermore, they also banned a subreddit critical of Neo GAF.  Again, they have yet to give any evidence of actual malicious activity.

And you know what else they did?  They banned a subreddit dedicated to whale-watching, thinking it was a clone of fatpeoplehate!  Bravo, admins.  Bravo.

Look, I didn't like fatpeoplehate, but that doesn't mean I'm going to sit back and watch as it gets banned under false pretenses.  As Voltaire said: "I disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

So yeah, fuck Reddit.  If things don't change in short order, I'm moving to Voat.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on June 11, 2015, 04:00:30 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/20r79kk.jpg)

Chairwoman Pao is going to kill Reddit.
(http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/a/ae/free_speech.png)

Actually, I did a little more research, and found out that it was (supposedly) being banned because of harassment and brigading.  I guess that's fair... or it would be, if they also went after SRS.  But they're not, so it's not.
Ok, I'm glad that got settled.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 12, 2015, 12:45:53 pm
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/xpx8bs.jpg)

Have I mentioned that I hate Ted Nugent?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on June 12, 2015, 09:54:53 pm
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/xpx8bs.jpg)

Have I mentioned that I hate Ted Nugent?

I share the sentiment. That said, that sign looks...."off"....as in "shopped".

But if it's real, maybe the neon orange is making it look unreal.

Regardless, Nuge the Noodge is a huge, hateful chickenhawk meathead!

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rookie on June 13, 2015, 10:23:36 am
It's too bad to because I like his music.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 15, 2015, 09:26:57 am
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/e5iws4.jpg)

Just a reminder that white nationalists have no self-awareness.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on June 15, 2015, 11:51:02 am
Ummmmmm.....?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on June 15, 2015, 12:26:26 pm
Ummmmmm.....?

The point is that White Supremacists ramble on about how blacks are violent brutes, then proceed to threaten blacks & everyone else, including fellow whites who disagree with their bigotry with over-the-top violence.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Damen on June 15, 2015, 05:59:40 pm
What's that thing with Ted Nugget...Nugent? I'm confused.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 17, 2015, 04:53:35 pm
Ummmmmm.....?

The point is that White Supremacists ramble on about how blacks are violent brutes, then proceed to threaten blacks & everyone else, including fellow whites who disagree with their bigotry with over-the-top violence.

Yeah, it's a meme dedicated to mocking White Nationalists, especially their doublethink.

Another example:

(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/18494378.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on June 17, 2015, 05:51:38 pm
Ummmmmm.....?

The point is that White Supremacists ramble on about how blacks are violent brutes, then proceed to threaten blacks & everyone else, including fellow whites who disagree with their bigotry with over-the-top violence.

Yeah, it's a meme dedicated to mocking White Nationalists, especially their doublethink.

Another example:

(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/18494378.jpg)

hey, ultie? why do you hurt yourself like that? you're dredging the bottom of the internet's hate-well finding this stuff. it's morbidly fascinating. thank you.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on June 17, 2015, 10:15:45 pm
I like memes that mock bigoted idiots.  :)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 22, 2015, 04:25:30 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/2zs1g7a.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: MadCatTLX on June 22, 2015, 05:25:20 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/2zs1g7a.jpg)

(http://media.giphy.com/media/DU5255vICnRAc/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on June 23, 2015, 06:01:23 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/2zs1g7a.jpg)



FEEL....
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f226/SpukiKitty/Spiritual%20and%20Religious/MWSnap38204-09-201311_04_12_zpsc4ee3b23.png) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/SpukiKitty/media/Spiritual%20and%20Religious/MWSnap38204-09-201311_04_12_zpsc4ee3b23.png.html)
....THE BURN!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on June 23, 2015, 08:19:09 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/2zs1g7a.jpg)
Didn't the Confederate military have over 50% of their troops desert before the US civil war was over? And that is before counting the units that surrendered when the war ended.

So in a way more of them did carry the white flag than the war flag (and I have understood that the "rebel flag" that later came so famous was actually rarely used by Confederacy.)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on June 23, 2015, 10:33:42 am
Pretty much every regiment and Confederate state and county, etc. had their own battle flag. The rebels were often starving and ill with typhoid or malaria when they surrendered. The Union generals did great strategic harm to the Confederate war effort through sabotage of railways and bridges, and got a lot of help from local southerners, black and white, who were tired of the terror and deprivation caused by the war.

The infamous Stars and Bars flag, plus all the Confederate state flags, were banned as treasonous after the war ended. The flags were re-instated, at least as major Confederate elements, to all the contemporary southern state flags as a political rebellion against Federal desegregation laws passed during the Civil Rights movement of the '50's and '60's. My own state's flag, currently flying over the state capitol in Tallahassee, Florida, is in fact a reincarnation of Florida's Confederate flag - the red cross bars are the particular Confederate element - and it was adopted by the Florida legislature during the early sixties to protest civil rights laws.

Just about every state flag in the former Confederate South today still has some element in it's flag that was put in during the Civil Rights movement era as a protest. They all need to be corrected back to their non-treasonous, non-Confederate designs. The flags express a sneaky, chicken-shit bigotry amongst certain politicians and their factions, who keep "explaining" the flags away as just a form of honoring ancestors and such. Bullshit. They are flags that flip a "fuck you" finger at every non-white citizen in this country.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rookie on June 23, 2015, 10:39:08 am
But it's heritage!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on June 23, 2015, 11:55:19 am
But it's heritage!
(http://www.thepaincomics.com/Heritage%20Not%20Hate.JPG)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on June 24, 2015, 09:08:39 am
re: the confederate flags.

(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aQn4pA7_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 24, 2015, 05:54:51 pm
re: the confederate flags.

(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aQn4pA7_700b.jpg)

Pretty stupid. Speech is just symbol, after all. Does it not have the "magical power" of containing information?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on June 24, 2015, 06:38:59 pm
re: the confederate flags.

(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aQn4pA7_700b.jpg)


Without context, I'd probably assume that was about the Shroud of Turin.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 24, 2015, 08:57:58 pm
Or the American flag.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on June 24, 2015, 09:48:58 pm
How dare you all deny towel power!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Igor on June 24, 2015, 10:06:58 pm
How dare you all deny towel power!

Do you know where your towel is?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on June 24, 2015, 10:34:41 pm
How dare you all deny towel power!

Do you know where your towel is?

Yes, but sadly it's not white.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on June 25, 2015, 08:54:08 am
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aKBgREW_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on June 25, 2015, 11:54:33 am
Truly awesome cartoon.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 27, 2015, 11:43:17 am
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/2irsozd.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on June 30, 2015, 05:34:28 am
"I know, let's compare just two things and claim causality without even thinking about all the other things that might affect them."
(http://i.imgur.com/8flmzI9.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 30, 2015, 12:07:51 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/np1gqx.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on June 30, 2015, 03:59:59 pm
"I know, let's compare just two things and claim causality without even thinking about all the other things that might affect them."
(http://i.imgur.com/8flmzI9.jpg)

Awesome response from a real-life Swiss. Cool!


(http://oi59.tinypic.com/np1gqx.jpg)

WILLIE WONKA! I LOVE YOU!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Svata on July 05, 2015, 01:43:13 am
Gene Wilder is one of the best people ever, but I prefer Blazing Saddles to Willy Wonka.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 07, 2015, 12:51:36 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/24wzzwj.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on July 07, 2015, 01:10:40 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/24wzzwj.jpg)

LOVE IT!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 16, 2015, 06:47:06 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/2i4tn5.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on July 17, 2015, 01:27:13 am
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/2i4tn5.jpg)

That's a good point.  :)

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 27, 2015, 11:15:05 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/jqm8aq.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on July 27, 2015, 03:02:22 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/jqm8aq.jpg)


Just for that, I say to you....THAT WAS A TOTAL....
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f226/SpukiKitty/All%20My%20General%20Reactions/roggiewin_zpsa3383b38.png) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/SpukiKitty/media/All%20My%20General%20Reactions/roggiewin_zpsa3383b38.png.html)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 28, 2015, 03:23:31 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/jqm8aq.jpg)

The difference is that white power is pure hate, wheras black power is a response to an actual thing.

Malcom X was not Bull Connor.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 28, 2015, 08:56:59 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/jqm8aq.jpg)

The difference is that white power is pure hate, wheras black power is a response to an actual thing.

Malcom X was not Bull Connor.

Because that completely justifies the Black Power movement's naked racism.  Or the voter intimidation done by the New Black Panthers.  Or the murders committed by the Nation of Islam.

He who fights monsters and all that...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 28, 2015, 05:58:49 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/jqm8aq.jpg)

The difference is that white power is pure hate, wheras black power is a response to an actual thing.

Malcom X was not Bull Connor.

Because that completely justifies the Black Power movement's naked racism.  Or the voter intimidation done by the New Black Panthers.  Or the murders committed by the Nation of Islam.

He who fights monsters and all that...

Do you think the two groups are comparable?

That is - do you think the Black Panthers were as bad as the state of Alabama, or the FBI?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on July 28, 2015, 06:20:41 pm
Ah, fuck me, here we go again.

*breaks out the booze*
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 28, 2015, 07:32:52 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/jqm8aq.jpg)

The difference is that white power is pure hate, wheras black power is a response to an actual thing.

Malcom X was not Bull Connor.

Because that completely justifies the Black Power movement's naked racism.  Or the voter intimidation done by the New Black Panthers.  Or the murders committed by the Nation of Islam.

He who fights monsters and all that...

Do you think the two groups are comparable?

That is - do you think the Black Panthers were as bad as the state of Alabama, or the FBI?

Do you honestly think the entire state of Alabama was made up of card-carrying Klansmen?  Quite the contrary, many white Alabamians were active supporters of the civil rights movement. 

And the FBI was basically controlled by J. Edgar Hoover, with negligible resistance or oversight.  Its abuse of power was undeniable, but Hoover and his cronies basically turned the FBI into their own private force.  And considering he once fired somebody because he thought his head looked too small, can you blame people for not speaking out?

Now as for the Black Panthers... let me tell you, they did some pretty shady stuff too.  Let's start with the beginning.  It was founded by a career criminal.  Huey P. Newton had a laundry list of offenses even before his activism, and admitted to beginning his law studies to become a better criminal.  Furthermore, numerous allegations of violence have been made against him.  It's true that he was acquitted of Kathleen Smith's murder, but that was only after an attempt on a key witness's life by three Black Panthers.  That would be grounds for doubt in a Mafia trial, so I see no reason not to be suspicious of this verdict.

He wasn't the only one.  Bobby Seale implied that he killed a man for sleeping with his wife (and considering his role in a torture-murder, I don't doubt it).  George Jackson was a robber who was known for being violent in prison.  Eldridge Cleaver was a rapist.  And Lorenzo Kom'boa Ervin hijacked a plane to Cuba to escape prosecution for plotting murder.

Moreover, their ten-point program demanded the release of every single African-American imprisoned at the time.  And from the very beginning, they were open-carriers.  That's not a problem with me.  Is it with you?  I think you'd be iffy about guns, but maybe I'm wrong.

Now, let's get into their activities.  They ambushed cops, tortured and murdered their own members (Alex Rackley being the most famous example), and got into a violent dispute with the US Organization, a rival black nationalist party.  And after the party died, many of its former members founded the Black Liberation Army, an outright terrorist organization.

There are a lot of legitimate criticisms to be made about the Black Panther Party.  Even leftist hugboxes like RationalWiki agree on this.  Former Black Panthers, including Eldridge Cleaver himself, have claimed the party left a negative legacy.

Now, does all this justify COINTELPRO's activities against them?  No, it doesn't.  But it does erode their "moral high ground". 

To determine whether they were "worse"... that's hard to judge.  They did some good things, had some good members, and weren't as bad as other black nationalist groups like the Nation of Islam.  On the other hand, I find it hard to say that they had a good impact overall.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 28, 2015, 08:00:39 pm
Obviously I mean the State as an institution - the State Government in the 1960s.

Would you consider the institutions of the FBI and the government of Alabama to be comparably bad to the Black Panthers? Whether or not they're exactly on par, do you think the two institutions broadly were similar and similarly bad? Your little meme seems to suggest so. Yes or no?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 28, 2015, 08:31:45 pm
Obviously I mean the State as an institution - the State Government in the 1960s.

Would you consider the institutions of the FBI and the government of Alabama to be comparably bad to the Black Panthers? Whether or not they're exactly on par, do you think the two institutions broadly were similar and similarly bad? Your little meme seems to suggest so. Yes or no?

You're asking me to compare apples and oranges.  Let me ask you this: do you think David Duke is as bad as Robert Mugabe?

Besides, it's talking about modern movements.  The original Black Panthers aren't relevant anymore.  You might as well be asking me about the Yippies.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 28, 2015, 08:32:53 pm
Obviously I mean the State as an institution - the State Government in the 1960s.

Would you consider the institutions of the FBI and the government of Alabama to be comparably bad to the Black Panthers? Whether or not they're exactly on par, do you think the two institutions broadly were similar and similarly bad? Your little meme seems to suggest so. Yes or no?

You're asking me to compare apples and oranges.  Let me ask you this: do you think David Duke is as bad as Robert Mugabe?

Besides, it's talking about modern movements.  The original Black Panthers aren't relevant anymore.  You might as well be asking me about the Yippies.

So, no - the two are not equivalent?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on July 28, 2015, 10:56:00 pm
Obviously I mean the State as an institution - the State Government in the 1960s.

Would you consider the institutions of the FBI and the government of Alabama to be comparably bad to the Black Panthers? Whether or not they're exactly on par, do you think the two institutions broadly were similar and similarly bad? Your little meme seems to suggest so. Yes or no?

You're asking me to compare apples and oranges.  Let me ask you this: do you think David Duke is as bad as Robert Mugabe?

Besides, it's talking about modern movements.  The original Black Panthers aren't relevant anymore.  You might as well be asking me about the Yippies.
70% of all racial hate crimes in the U.S. are committed but only 18 percent were committed against whites, to say that anti-white hate crimes are equally as pressing as anti-black hate crimes seems dishonest. In addition to that the Black Panthers are nowhere near as bad as the KKK as they never achieved the same body count or the same level of widespread terror.


As for your question:
Would you say the prime minister of Estonia was ever comparable to Stalin's chef?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 28, 2015, 11:04:03 pm
Obviously I mean the State as an institution - the State Government in the 1960s.

Would you consider the institutions of the FBI and the government of Alabama to be comparably bad to the Black Panthers? Whether or not they're exactly on par, do you think the two institutions broadly were similar and similarly bad? Your little meme seems to suggest so. Yes or no?

You're asking me to compare apples and oranges.  Let me ask you this: do you think David Duke is as bad as Robert Mugabe?

Besides, it's talking about modern movements.  The original Black Panthers aren't relevant anymore.  You might as well be asking me about the Yippies.
70% of all racial hate crimes in the U.S. are committed but only 18 percent were committed against whites, to say that anti-white hate crimes are equally as pressing as anti-black hate crimes seems dishonest. In addition to that the Black Panthers are nowhere near as bad as the KKK as they never achieved the same body count or the same level of widespread terror. The meme also seems really corny, sure the message is fine but it presents it in a really bad way and sounds cheesy.


As for your question:
Would you say the prime minister of Estonia was ever comparable to Stalin's chef?

You're missing the point.  It's not about body counts, it's about division.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on July 28, 2015, 11:05:33 pm
Oh, I see, never mind what I just said.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 29, 2015, 12:59:20 am
Obviously I mean the State as an institution - the State Government in the 1960s.

Would you consider the institutions of the FBI and the government of Alabama to be comparably bad to the Black Panthers? Whether or not they're exactly on par, do you think the two institutions broadly were similar and similarly bad? Your little meme seems to suggest so. Yes or no?

You're asking me to compare apples and oranges.  Let me ask you this: do you think David Duke is as bad as Robert Mugabe?

Besides, it's talking about modern movements.  The original Black Panthers aren't relevant anymore.  You might as well be asking me about the Yippies.
70% of all racial hate crimes in the U.S. are committed but only 18 percent were committed against whites, to say that anti-white hate crimes are equally as pressing as anti-black hate crimes seems dishonest. In addition to that the Black Panthers are nowhere near as bad as the KKK as they never achieved the same body count or the same level of widespread terror. The meme also seems really corny, sure the message is fine but it presents it in a really bad way and sounds cheesy.


As for your question:
Would you say the prime minister of Estonia was ever comparable to Stalin's chef?

You're missing the point.  It's not about body counts, it's about division.

And which group is responsible for racism - its defenders Alabama, the FBI, parts of the Federal Government, etc - or people who, in fighting against it, act in a way that is strategically or morally imperfect?

Or are they both equivalently responsible for racism?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 29, 2015, 01:20:49 am
Obviously I mean the State as an institution - the State Government in the 1960s.

Would you consider the institutions of the FBI and the government of Alabama to be comparably bad to the Black Panthers? Whether or not they're exactly on par, do you think the two institutions broadly were similar and similarly bad? Your little meme seems to suggest so. Yes or no?

You're asking me to compare apples and oranges.  Let me ask you this: do you think David Duke is as bad as Robert Mugabe?

Besides, it's talking about modern movements.  The original Black Panthers aren't relevant anymore.  You might as well be asking me about the Yippies.
70% of all racial hate crimes in the U.S. are committed but only 18 percent were committed against whites, to say that anti-white hate crimes are equally as pressing as anti-black hate crimes seems dishonest. In addition to that the Black Panthers are nowhere near as bad as the KKK as they never achieved the same body count or the same level of widespread terror. The meme also seems really corny, sure the message is fine but it presents it in a really bad way and sounds cheesy.


As for your question:
Would you say the prime minister of Estonia was ever comparable to Stalin's chef?

You're missing the point.  It's not about body counts, it's about division.

And which group is responsible for racism - its defenders Alabama, the FBI, parts of the Federal Government, etc - or people who, in fighting against it, act in a way that is strategically or morally imperfect?

Or are they both equivalently responsible for racism?

(http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/You-Are-Really-Dumb-Antoine-Dodson-Gif.gif)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 29, 2015, 02:21:28 am
You see, this is why people call you a fucking idiot.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Svata on July 29, 2015, 07:22:18 am
That gif doesn't answer the question.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 29, 2015, 10:11:15 am
Racism long predates the founding of the United States.  Your question is complete nonsense.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on July 29, 2015, 10:19:28 am
And UP, once again, evades away into the sunset of the discussion.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on July 29, 2015, 12:13:53 pm
Racism long predates the founding of the United States.  Your question is complete nonsense.
They were reffering to racism in modern America, that should be pretty fucking obvious.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 29, 2015, 12:46:19 pm
Racism long predates the founding of the United States.  Your question is complete nonsense.
They were reffering to racism in modern America, that should be pretty fucking obvious.

Considering how childishly simplistic Fred's views on race relations are, can you blame me for misunderstanding him?

And to answer his question, racism in American predates its independence.  If you want to blame anybody, blame the plantation owners who wanted cheap labor.  But if we want to talk about modern America, I blame elements of the establishment for perpetuating racism against non-whites, while I blame the Nation of Islam and similar groups for continuing anti-white racism.  Why?  Because both forms of racism have centuries-old roots, and both have blood on their hands.  It's true that anti-white racism was caused by racism perpetrated against non-whites, but it accomplished nothing except feeding into "establishment racism".  For example, Nat Turner's rebellion (which killed almost every white person it encountered) led to brand-new discriminatory laws against African-Americans, both free and enslaved.  It's a vicious cycle, and you can't condemn one without condemning the other.

Then again, Fred is the same guy who implied that the Tutsis and white Zimbabweans had it coming (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=10.msg229503#msg229503), so I can't expect him to view this issue with any kind of nuance.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on July 29, 2015, 01:46:32 pm
1. Yes I can

2. I suppose I can mostly agree with all of that. Thank you for clarifying.

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on July 29, 2015, 05:45:10 pm
*SIGH* The point of that meme was that the elite uses ethnic tensions to keep us divided AND that bigotry is dumb no matter the ethnicity of the bigot.

And that's all I'm going to say since people get so touchy-touchy!

I stand with Paragon on this. There was no bigotry intended. *SHEESH*!!!!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 29, 2015, 06:39:10 pm
So, let's recap.

First you insult me in an attempt to be holier than thou and dodge the question. This fails due to a bunch of other people calling you on it.

Then you continue with another scam: deliberately misreading me.

Racism long predates the founding of the United States.  Your question is complete nonsense.
They were reffering to racism in modern America, that should be pretty fucking obvious.

Considering how childishly simplistic Fred's views on race relations are, can you blame me for misunderstanding him?

And to answer his question, racism in American predates its independence.

Utterly and characteristically irrelevant.

Quote
If you want to blame anybody, blame the plantation owners who wanted cheap labor.

Deliberate, intentional misunderstanding of my point.

Quote
I blame elements of the establishment for perpetuating racism against non-whites, while I blame the Nation of Islam and similar groups for continuing anti-white racism.

Both sides do it!

I'm sure those millions of white people kept in slavery by black people for three centuries by the threat and use of force suffered in your bizarro world just the same as the millions of black people in the real world.

This is insane false equivalence. Absolutely off the wall crazy.

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Because both forms of racism have centuries-old roots, and both have blood on their hands.  It's true that anti-white racism was caused by racism perpetrated against non-whites, but it accomplished nothing except feeding into "establishment racism".  For example, Nat Turner's rebellion (which killed almost every white person it encountered) led to brand-new discriminatory laws against African-Americans, both free and enslaved.  It's a vicious cycle, and you can't condemn one without condemning the other.

You can't condemn Bull Connor and Richard Nixon without condemning the people who literally tried to prevent those people from doing the things that they did that were wrong.

Equally, you certainly can't blame the white British for murdering millions of Africans without blaming those Africans - equally! - for trying to stop them from doing that. Trying to prevent a crime is just as bad as committing it.

This is the clearest racist false equivalence I've seen on this site, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Oh and you finish with a lie.

Absolutely great performance. 10/10. Couldn't have written it better myself.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 29, 2015, 07:12:33 pm
So, let's recap.

First you insult me in an attempt to be holier than thou and dodge the question. This fails due to a bunch of other people calling you on it.

Then you continue with another scam: deliberately misreading me.

Racism long predates the founding of the United States.  Your question is complete nonsense.
They were reffering to racism in modern America, that should be pretty fucking obvious.

Considering how childishly simplistic Fred's views on race relations are, can you blame me for misunderstanding him?

And to answer his question, racism in American predates its independence.

Utterly and characteristically irrelevant.

So was your idiotic objection to my post.

Quote
If you want to blame anybody, blame the plantation owners who wanted cheap labor.

Deliberate, intentional misunderstanding of my point.

And you'd know a lot about that, wouldn't you?

Quote
I blame elements of the establishment for perpetuating racism against non-whites, while I blame the Nation of Islam and similar groups for continuing anti-white racism.

Both sides do it!

I'm sure those millions of white people kept in slavery by black people for three centuries by the threat and use of force suffered in your bizarro world just the same as the millions of black people in the real world.

This is insane false equivalence. Absolutely off the wall crazy.

I never said it was equal.  Stop putting words in my mouth.

Quote
Because both forms of racism have centuries-old roots, and both have blood on their hands.  It's true that anti-white racism was caused by racism perpetrated against non-whites, but it accomplished nothing except feeding into "establishment racism".  For example, Nat Turner's rebellion (which killed almost every white person it encountered) led to brand-new discriminatory laws against African-Americans, both free and enslaved.  It's a vicious cycle, and you can't condemn one without condemning the other.

You can't condemn Bull Connor and Richard Nixon without condemning the people who literally tried to prevent those people from doing the things that they did that were wrong.

You mean the same Richard Nixon who did more for desegregation than any other President?

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/08/opinion/how-a-republican-desegregated-the-south-s-schools.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/08/opinion/how-a-republican-desegregated-the-south-s-schools.html)

And you're using a strawman.  What I'm talking about is anti-white racism, not struggles against Jim Crow and the like.

Equally, you certainly can't blame the white British for murdering millions of Africans without blaming those Africans - equally! - for trying to stop them from doing that. Trying to prevent a crime is just as bad as committing it.

How is that relevant to racism in America?

This is the clearest racist false equivalence I've seen on this site, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

No, you should be ashamed of yourself for deliberately misrepresenting me!

Oh and you finish with a lie.

Okay, then.  Explain to me why you said white Zimbabweans don't deserve to own land.  Explain why you hold the Tutsis collectively responsible for things some of their ancestors did.

Absolutely great performance. 10/10. Couldn't have written it better myself.

Yes, you could.  In fact, you just did.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Svata on July 29, 2015, 07:19:59 pm

Quote from: Lt. Fred
This is insane false equivalence. Absolutely off the wall crazy.

I never said it was equal.  Stop putting words in my mouth.



Said outright? No. Implied the fuck out of it? Oh, my, yes.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 30, 2015, 03:04:46 am
Thankyou Svata. This is what he does.

Edit to add: I also like the impression that Nat Turner killed a bunch of the people responsible for enslaving him out of racism. His beef wasn't with the colour of their skin, but this minor disagreement over whether or not he was a person. Same with Malcom X.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 30, 2015, 10:53:50 pm
Thankyou Svata. This is what he does.

Edit to add: I also like the impression that Nat Turner killed a bunch of the people responsible for enslaving him out of racism. His beef wasn't with the colour of their skin, but this minor disagreement over whether or not he was a person. Same with Malcom X.

Funny you should say that.  Malcolm X did hate white people.  But he got better after making his Hajj.  He renounced his racism, and was killed by his former compatriots for it.

And I must remind you that Nat Turner wasn't a real-life Django.  He didn't restrict himself to slaveowners, and outright said that he wanted to "kill all the white people".  Turner and his minions made good on that threat, slaughtering virtually every white person they encountered, including children.  The man was a butcher, not a freedom fighter.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 31, 2015, 03:54:07 am
Hacktastic my man. 10/10.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on July 31, 2015, 10:48:05 am
I'm siding with Paragon here. You guys read WAAAAAAYYY too much into what he posted.

He's not saying that blacks aren't justified in their anger & rage. He's saying that some blacks take it to the next level and start becoming anti-white bigots.

Their hate & bigotry is a lot more understandable but it's still wrong to stoop to the white supremacists level.

"He who fights monsters...."

Now, there are some good aspects of "Black Power", embracing one's "blackness" and not seeing it as ugly or a curse......strength, self-determination, not seeing oneself as a weak kowtowed victim......unfortunately much of it comes with the baggage of hating ethnic integration and seeing all whites as "the enemy".....even rejecting potential allies due to their lack of melanin.

There's was no doubt a lot of good in the "Black Power" Movement but there were many that took it too far.

I think you guys are too hard on Paragon. Sure, he sometimes says dumb things. We all do, especially me.

Guys, quit arguing. Just drop the subject and relax.

I know the saying's cliché, but.....CAN'T WE JUST ALL GET ALONG?!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cerim Treascair on July 31, 2015, 12:07:27 pm
Fred? UP?

Could you two hatefuck and get it over with already?! The rest of the board is sick of your shit!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on July 31, 2015, 12:39:49 pm
Fred? UP?

Could you two hatefuck and get it over with already?! The rest of the board is sick of your shit!


Exactly what I was saying....albeit in a more polite, tactful fashion. Really! I hate it when a thread's derailed with "ARGUE ARGUE ARGUE! BICKER BICKER!" It's really stupid!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on August 03, 2015, 08:24:10 am
(http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Rally-against-the-CCBRs-anti-abortion-caravan-at-the-Vancouver-Art-Gallery-800x430.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on August 03, 2015, 08:30:39 am
(http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Rally-against-the-CCBRs-anti-abortion-caravan-at-the-Vancouver-Art-Gallery-800x430.jpg)

<fundie>Well, I don't think they have any, so how can I mess with them?</fundie>
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on August 04, 2015, 07:47:57 pm
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/axG7AyK_700b.jpg)

i lol because fox doesn't get it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on August 04, 2015, 10:03:51 pm
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/axG7AyK_700b.jpg)

i lol because fox doesn't get it.

"Bankruptcy is literally fisting Joe/Jane Q. Public" Amirite?

Of course, FOX won't get it!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on August 05, 2015, 12:46:16 pm
That's not the nice way to form your hand for a "fisting", lube all you want, ouch!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on August 05, 2015, 05:35:32 pm
Still, you know that's the image that comes into the average person's mind when they hear "fisting", so in this case strict accuracy can be sacrificed for the sake of the message.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on August 05, 2015, 07:19:33 pm
That's not the nice way to form your hand for a "fisting", lube all you want, ouch!
Pleb
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 22, 2015, 03:36:19 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/2ldkneh.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on August 23, 2015, 04:36:32 pm
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/arRnQgV_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 23, 2015, 04:40:32 pm
Good thing he can't be elected, since he was born in Oompa Land.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on August 23, 2015, 05:19:32 pm
McCain's only treated like that by the Village. Normal people don't care.
Title: Re:Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rookie on August 25, 2015, 12:13:21 pm
click here  (http://www.ew.com/article/2015/08/24/dave-grohl-explains-foo-fighters-rickroll-westboro-baptist-church/)

So I'm not really sure where this should go, but it's a cover protest so, I'm, I guess here. Anyways, our good friends over at the WBC (yes, that one) felt the need to go protest a Foo Fighters concert. Dave Grohl decides to go over and Rick Roll them. I thought some of you here would hey a kick out of that.
ETA: Crap! Wrong protest sign thread. Could a kindly mod please kick this over to Awesome Protest Signs?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on August 25, 2015, 08:11:32 pm
There you go.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rookie on August 26, 2015, 01:07:05 am
Thanks.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 28, 2015, 08:45:27 am
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/244e8gi.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 30, 2015, 03:59:26 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/k54qqv.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on August 31, 2015, 07:10:38 am
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aq2RzW7_460sv.mp4)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on September 01, 2015, 03:13:45 am
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aQnvPg2_460s.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on September 01, 2015, 11:03:05 am
(http://i.imgur.com/Zg6NQbK.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on September 01, 2015, 12:19:14 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/Zg6NQbK.jpg)

Yes!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Eiki-mun on September 01, 2015, 02:53:45 pm
...I do wonder though. If two very drunk people have sex, which one is the rapist?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on September 01, 2015, 03:07:51 pm
...I do wonder though. If two very drunk people have sex, which one is the rapist?

If persons A and B are drunk and A says no to sex but B forces themselves onto A then B is a rapist even though they were drunk.

If both A and B said yes to sex because they were so drunk but regret it later... That gets more difficult and I think it would be fair to say that both are equally to blame for a stupid decision.

The main deal about having sex with someone who is too drunk is that a sober person who is (presumably) able to think clearly makes a conscious choice to take advantage of a defenseless person. If both (or all in case of an orgy) people are completely wasted then it's not that clear (or at least it is not as easy to prove in court) that there is someone who decided to put another person into a defenseless state and take advantage of their vulnerability.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheL on September 01, 2015, 04:24:48 pm
Furthermore, a person who is too drunk to even say no is generally unconscious.  It's never a good idea to have sex with an unconscious person.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Eiki-mun on September 01, 2015, 05:10:10 pm
...I do wonder though. If two very drunk people have sex, which one is the rapist?

If persons A and B are drunk and A says no to sex but B forces themselves onto A then B is a rapist even though they were drunk.

If both A and B said yes to sex because they were so drunk but regret it later... That gets more difficult and I think it would be fair to say that both are equally to blame for a stupid decision.

The main deal about having sex with someone who is too drunk is that a sober person who is (presumably) able to think clearly makes a conscious choice to take advantage of a defenseless person. If both (or all in case of an orgy) people are completely wasted then it's not that clear (or at least it is not as easy to prove in court) that there is someone who decided to put another person into a defenseless state and take advantage of their vulnerability.

That's all very well and good, and I don't disagree with any part of this. But, focusing on that second situation, if both parties have willing but highly drunken sex, and both parties regret it once they sober up, isn't it the case that both parties are legally guilty of rape?

I guess it just depends on who decides to prosecute first, person A or person B.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on September 01, 2015, 05:58:40 pm
Furthermore, a person who is too drunk to even say no is generally unconscious.  It's never a good idea to have sex with an unconscious person.
Well, that one is obvious. But generally speaking if you get someone so drunk that they say yes (or "yessh") when they would not have done so while sober then it is still iffy. Some people complain about the "she was willing but then got regrets in the morning and accuses him of rape" but honestly I think there are cases where it really is rape even if she was barely conscious but not in proper set of mind (regardless of genders of the individuals involved.)

...I do wonder though. If two very drunk people have sex, which one is the rapist?

If persons A and B are drunk and A says no to sex but B forces themselves onto A then B is a rapist even though they were drunk.

If both A and B said yes to sex because they were so drunk but regret it later... That gets more difficult and I think it would be fair to say that both are equally to blame for a stupid decision.

The main deal about having sex with someone who is too drunk is that a sober person who is (presumably) able to think clearly makes a conscious choice to take advantage of a defenseless person. If both (or all in case of an orgy) people are completely wasted then it's not that clear (or at least it is not as easy to prove in court) that there is someone who decided to put another person into a defenseless state and take advantage of their vulnerability.

That's all very well and good, and I don't disagree with any part of this. But, focusing on that second situation, if both parties have willing but highly drunken sex, and both parties regret it once they sober up, isn't it the case that both parties are legally guilty of rape?

I guess it just depends on who decides to prosecute first, person A or person B.

I don't know how courts handle it but in that scenario I think neither should be prosecuted for rape. If neither person really was able to legally consent then neither person should be guilty either. Or they are both equally guilty of being stupid.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 02, 2015, 07:44:25 am
(http://i.imgur.com/HZPEvvH.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on September 02, 2015, 04:29:57 pm
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aQnvPg2_460s.jpg)

I prefer this image:

(http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2015/04/10/sf25027_sq-0f6b5b41a3919281ad4df2dd7ad6a3fc10621d55-s900-c85.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on September 02, 2015, 07:29:07 pm
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aQnvPg2_460s.jpg)

I prefer this image:

(http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2015/04/10/sf25027_sq-0f6b5b41a3919281ad4df2dd7ad6a3fc10621d55-s900-c85.jpg)

Now, that's a far better image. I agree.



I made this re-edit of one of those Worst Protest Signs/Political Cartoon to become a Best Protest Sign/Political Cartoon....
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f226/SpukiKitty/All%20My%20Political%20Stuff/7bnl0QH_zpsqpenogcd.png) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/SpukiKitty/media/All%20My%20Political%20Stuff/7bnl0QH_zpsqpenogcd.png.html)
....You'll see this (and the original) in a neighboring thread.

The original crapola version had Russell Means shutting up...but I corrected it to become this.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sylvana on September 03, 2015, 01:58:42 am

(http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2015/04/10/sf25027_sq-0f6b5b41a3919281ad4df2dd7ad6a3fc10621d55-s900-c85.jpg)

What is that an image of exactly? It looks interesting, but I dont understand anything about it, so it lacks any significance to me.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: davedan on September 03, 2015, 02:14:01 am
I believe it's a picture of polio patients inside Iron lungs. Polio which has now almost been entirely eradicated due to vaccination.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on September 03, 2015, 02:42:50 am
I believe it's a picture of polio patients inside Iron lungs. Polio which has now almost been entirely eradicated due to vaccination.

Yes, it's a picture of a polio ward. I'd probably put some sort of caption on it if I actually wanted to bother to rebut antivax arguments with it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Even Then on September 03, 2015, 02:49:37 am
Really, it speaks for itself.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on September 03, 2015, 07:15:15 pm

(http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2015/04/10/sf25027_sq-0f6b5b41a3919281ad4df2dd7ad6a3fc10621d55-s900-c85.jpg)

What is that an image of exactly? It looks interesting, but I dont understand anything about it, so it lacks any significance to me.

A lot of people who got polio got it so bad that it basically paralyzed them to the point where they lost the ability to breathe on their own. They would be put in this Iron Lung contraption that would help them breathe.

Here's more about the Iron Lung....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_lung
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on September 03, 2015, 07:53:46 pm
Really, it speaks for itself.

Not if you don't know what you're looking at in the first place. If I showed it to a teenager who's bought into antivax propaganda it could well have no significance to them and even telling them it's a polio ward might not mean much since polio, in the developed parts of the world, is no longer a menace.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on September 03, 2015, 08:04:23 pm
"My producers said songs like 'Uh Oh, Polio' wouldn't connect with today's youth!"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Zygarde on September 03, 2015, 08:26:11 pm
So I worked my admiditly bad Photo Shop skills and I made this.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 04, 2015, 07:21:13 am
(http://i.imgur.com/zIPzXOY.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Even Then on September 04, 2015, 07:30:36 am
Now that's gold.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on September 04, 2015, 09:38:31 am
Spewed my coffee, UP. Good one!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cataclysm on September 04, 2015, 02:29:30 pm
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11924546_10156130614600393_4782944053815622858_n.png?oh=aeda6e0aa9d9857dbb2dec69551afe26&oe=5663ADEA)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on September 04, 2015, 05:33:01 pm
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/avL1VgM_460s.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 06, 2015, 11:33:04 am
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/2zntvev.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 08, 2015, 11:54:39 am
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/013/871/667.png)

It's especially dumb considering one of MLK's closest allies was an openly gay man (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayard_Rustin).
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on September 08, 2015, 10:42:50 pm
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/avL1VgM_460s.jpg)

Eh, I think this better drives the point home to a lot of the people supporting Davis:

(https://i.imgflip.com/qro7t.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sylvana on September 09, 2015, 05:56:26 am
A lot of people who got polio got it so bad that it basically paralyzed them to the point where they lost the ability to breathe on their own. They would be put in this Iron Lung contraption that would help them breathe.

Here's more about the Iron Lung....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_lung

Thank you for the information. I did not know that polio caused paralysis or that a device like the Iron Lung existed to help them breath. Fascinating stuff really.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on September 09, 2015, 03:48:23 pm
A collection of Republican comments on rape with sources provided conveniently:
(http://i.imgur.com/gDhSVxs.gif)

But wait! There's more:
Eight more images in total. http://imgur.com/gallery/BMBIH
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on September 09, 2015, 05:50:34 pm
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a1YDjOR_460s.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ironchew on September 09, 2015, 07:11:39 pm
It should have could have gone in dumbest protest signs more easily.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on September 10, 2015, 11:23:31 am
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a1YDjOR_460s.jpg)

I'd put that in the DUMBEST section. NOBODY voting is what got idiots like the GOP running stuff!

Look, I get it, all parties have corruption to varying degrees. However, there are in fact much lesser evils that are capable of doing good. If you sit on your butt waiting for a morally/ethically blameless politician/party, you'll be dead. Humans are fallible. We work in shades of grey. Even the most noble of us have done stupid things!

As an American, I'd rather have the Democrats running everything. Better a party of Centrists & sane Conservatives than a party of Far-Right Theofascist nutso wingnuts!

Also, the more people vote for the lesser evil, over time, the evil in "lesser evil" will decrease.

I'm 40 years old, I've seen my country "go south". I've seen what apathy has done. I've seen what a public that constantly elects wingnuts can do to politics. Politics and society suddenly go Far-Rightward.

You need to vote! If anything, all that corruption & gerrymandering means that the sane need to vote EVEN MORE!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on September 10, 2015, 11:43:57 am
or, you know. civil disobedience, because if idiots are running the show, might as well live your life according to your moral compass rather than comply with unjust laws. something about free will and all that.

i only live by the laws that i deem just, not by all. else, i couldn't look myself in the mirror.

why do i drive according to the speed limit? because i deem any faster i could lose control of the vehicle, etc...

besides. all over the world, it really seems like voting for politicians is trying to choose which std is right for you. if you're fucked either way, might as well not force which pain you get over another.

oh, wait. it takes moral integrity to do that? guess we're all fucked, because it takes a bit of personnal introspection to do that, and most people don't have that kind of self-understanding.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ironchew on September 10, 2015, 01:13:10 pm
or, you know. civil disobedience, because if idiots are running the show, might as well live your life according to your moral compass rather than comply with unjust laws. something about free will and all that.

i only live by the laws that i deem just, not by all. else, i couldn't look myself in the mirror.

why do i drive according to the speed limit? because i deem any faster i could lose control of the vehicle, etc...

besides. all over the world, it really seems like voting for politicians is trying to choose which std is right for you. if you're fucked either way, might as well not force which pain you get over another.

oh, wait. it takes moral integrity to do that? guess we're all fucked, because it takes a bit of personnal introspection to do that, and most people don't have that kind of self-understanding.

At this point it's easier to admit that you don't vote because you don't want to.

Digging around for the reason you're morally superior to the voting sheeple is increasingly absurd.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on September 10, 2015, 03:05:05 pm
or, you know. civil disobedience, because if idiots are running the show, might as well live your life according to your moral compass rather than comply with unjust laws. something about free will and all that.

i only live by the laws that i deem just, not by all. else, i couldn't look myself in the mirror.

why do i drive according to the speed limit? because i deem any faster i could lose control of the vehicle, etc...

besides. all over the world, it really seems like voting for politicians is trying to choose which std is right for you. if you're fucked either way, might as well not force which pain you get over another.

oh, wait. it takes moral integrity to do that? guess we're all fucked, because it takes a bit of personnal introspection to do that, and most people don't have that kind of self-understanding.

At this point it's easier to admit that you don't vote because you don't want to.

Digging around for the reason you're morally superior to the voting sheeple is increasingly absurd.

i have always admitted i don't vote because i don't want to. my reasons are numerous and personal, but among them i will not vote for somebody who doesn't represent me. that goes double for scumbags, and triple for crooked scumbags.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 12, 2015, 10:17:53 am
(http://i.imgur.com/iirUtot.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on September 15, 2015, 09:55:00 am
(http://i.imgur.com/PjIrsM3.jpg)

Well played Russians, well played.

...I suppose the fact that there no longer is much opposition in Russia because most of the parties were banned due to "national security" might diminish the burn but despite the hypocrisy of the Russians the British hypocrisy is still rather shocking.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on September 15, 2015, 04:53:03 pm
Switch out "Labour" for "Democratic" and you have the Republican party line since Bush the Lesser.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on September 18, 2015, 06:05:04 pm
(https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/v/t1.0-9/557812_626583637361813_2144795983_n.jpg?oh=d4bfd419fdd2af4d2a771d037721e7ce&oe=56ABAE4E)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on September 18, 2015, 11:38:31 pm
(https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/v/t1.0-9/557812_626583637361813_2144795983_n.jpg?oh=d4bfd419fdd2af4d2a771d037721e7ce&oe=56ABAE4E)

THE AWESOME IS STRONG WITH THIS ONE.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 22, 2015, 08:32:51 am
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/10ro0oo.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on September 22, 2015, 06:46:11 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/10ro0oo.jpg)

I'll she-bop to that!  ;)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 23, 2015, 10:37:03 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/141v0hs.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on September 24, 2015, 06:29:03 am
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a2q2E7E_460s.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on September 24, 2015, 10:27:24 am
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a2q2E7E_460s.jpg)

*ZING!*
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on September 27, 2015, 10:02:49 pm
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/v/t1.0-9/12037955_935465746491974_1103834872156818370_n.png?oh=56fa3687ff7dc2ca9f99b6d8cc429fec&oe=568E60FB)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Svata on September 27, 2015, 11:05:06 pm
I'm just gonna go giggle helplessly for the next few hours now.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on September 28, 2015, 11:54:09 am
An organization that is fighting against gay marriage set up this protest banner in front of a church (The Lutheran Church of Finland has officially stated that they are not on the side of these morons. Individual priests are divided with some openly supporting marriage equality and others against it but the organization itself variously keeps it mouth shut, talks about how Jesus told us to love anyone or state that they will obey the law of the land.)

(https://fbcdn-photos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xtp1/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/12079109_741861885943025_8806146324289282314_n.png?oh=e115639c64364b175dd332cf96235047&oe=56A9F68A&__gda__=1451896349_4c36d50cd194a1c7154fcca7e4884912)

The text says that apparently according to this organization a "proper family has: Mother, Father, son and a hammerhead shark."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on September 28, 2015, 02:57:10 pm
An organization that is fighting against gay marriage set up this protest banner in front of a church (The Lutheran Church of Finland has officially stated that they are not on the side of these morons. Individual priests are divided with some openly supporting marriage equality and others against it but the organization itself variously keeps it mouth shut, talks about how Jesus told us to love anyone or state that they will obey the law of the land.)

(https://fbcdn-photos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xtp1/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/12079109_741861885943025_8806146324289282314_n.png?oh=e115639c64364b175dd332cf96235047&oe=56A9F68A&__gda__=1451896349_4c36d50cd194a1c7154fcca7e4884912)

The text says that apparently according to this organization a "proper family has: Mother, Father, son and a hammerhead shark."

LOL! I love it! I know it's a "daughter" flopped at a weird angle but DANG, it does look like a hammerhead!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 30, 2015, 12:54:30 pm
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/108ivc7.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Eiki-mun on September 30, 2015, 12:55:12 pm
What the fuck do those symbols even mean
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Artyom15 on September 30, 2015, 04:52:45 pm
What the fuck do those symbols even mean

First one looks like it has goat horns... rights for trans goats!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ironchew on September 30, 2015, 05:01:13 pm
What the fuck do those symbols even mean

First one looks like it has goat horns... rights for trans goats!

It's the symbol for Mercury. Admittedly the symbol for Mercury with a big penis sticking of its head.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on September 30, 2015, 06:17:27 pm
The standard male and female symbols are based on alchemical/astronomical symbols. Male is iron/Mars, female is copper/Venus. The symbol for mercury (and Mercury) is like the female symbol plus the "goat horns", and I think represents hermaphroditism. The symbol on the left appears to juxtapose the male and hermaphrodite symbols, for some reason. The one on the right is the standard trans symbol, with a slash through the middle which I think stands for agender.

The website mentioned below, soulsexalchemy.com (http://www.soulsexalchemy.com/), seems pretty wooish.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sylvana on October 01, 2015, 06:16:36 am
What the fuck do those symbols even mean

I can figure it out, but to be honest, those symbols just look frightening.
Like something out of a bad hentai.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheL on October 01, 2015, 04:26:59 pm
What the fuck do those symbols even mean

I can figure it out, but to be honest, those symbols just look frightening.
Like something out of a bad hentai.

Maybe the one on the left is for transgender people who were assigned male at birth and have a face-tentacle?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 01, 2015, 10:46:28 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/jq6hav.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Svata on October 01, 2015, 11:53:48 pm
What the fuck do those symbols even mean

I can figure it out, but to be honest, those symbols just look frightening.
Like something out of a bad hentai.

Maybe the one on the left is for transgender people who were assigned male at birth and have a face-tentacle?


Why are you all so damned funny? Why can't I be as funny as this?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sylvana on October 02, 2015, 02:27:45 am
What the fuck do those symbols even mean

I can figure it out, but to be honest, those symbols just look frightening.
Like something out of a bad hentai.

Maybe the one on the left is for transgender people who were assigned male at birth and have a face-tentacle?

I see! Its clearly for the often marginalized trans*Cthulhu community.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on October 02, 2015, 04:27:59 am
What the fuck do those symbols even mean

I can figure it out, but to be honest, those symbols just look frightening.
Like something out of a bad hentai.

Maybe the one on the left is for transgender people who were assigned male at birth and have a face-tentacle?

I see! Its clearly for the often marginalized trans*Cthulhu community.

"On all levels except physical I am Cthulhu..."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on October 02, 2015, 10:40:20 am
 ;D Okay, we're entering a whole weird new area, here...... ;D

LOVECRAFTIAN FACE-TENTACLES!!!!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 02, 2015, 11:32:17 am
Cthulhu / Nyarlathotep 2016
Why vote for the LESSER evil?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on October 02, 2015, 12:50:10 pm
Cthulhu / Nyarlathotep 2016
Why vote for the LESSER evil?

Cthulhu For America (https://cthulhuforamerica.com/)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on October 04, 2015, 02:26:40 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xta1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12118619_10153351555508143_5502408012383788215_n.jpg?oh=7dbc2413ca54f3609b97090eaa2cd7d6&oe=56A46BFF&__gda__=1453195246_9a5d353e32abc44b93ac4f6dec8f0b6b)

...But, he's using the (other) N-word! Can they do that?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on October 04, 2015, 01:11:27 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xta1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12118619_10153351555508143_5502408012383788215_n.jpg?oh=7dbc2413ca54f3609b97090eaa2cd7d6&oe=56A46BFF&__gda__=1453195246_9a5d353e32abc44b93ac4f6dec8f0b6b)

...But, he's using the (other) N-word! Can they do that?

 ;D THIS IS GREAT! ;D
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on October 04, 2015, 02:01:32 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/87K9t8p.jpg)

Not really a protest sign, but THIS is how religious leaders should be. I know the Dalai Lama has his own regressive beliefs, but I think being willing to say "We might not have everything figured out and should embrace new discoveries" instead of "BELIEVE EVERYTHING IN THIS BOOK OR GO TO HELL!!!!1111ONEONE!!!" is a huge step up from most prominent religious leaders. Hell, he even willingly abdicated his position as the leader of the Tibetan government-in-exile in favor of a democratically-elected one, has said that he would be open to his followers electing his successor before he dies, rather than relying on the cycle of reincarnation and has said that if Tibet's independence is ever restored, the lamas shouldn't enjoy the political power they did before.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on October 04, 2015, 07:34:14 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/87K9t8p.jpg)

Not really a protest sign, but THIS is how religious leaders should be. I know the Dalai Lama has his own regressive beliefs, but I think being willing to say "We might not have everything figured out and should embrace new discoveries" instead of "BELIEVE EVERYTHING IN THIS BOOK OR GO TO HELL!!!!1111ONEONE!!!" is a huge step up from most prominent religious leaders. Hell, he even willingly abdicated his position as the leader of the Tibetan government-in-exile in favor of a democratically-elected one, has said that he would be open to his followers electing his successor before he dies, rather than relying on the cycle of reincarnation and has said that if Tibet's independence is ever restored, the lamas shouldn't enjoy the political power they did before.

Cool! I like this.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kat S. on October 05, 2015, 11:24:22 am
I saw this on my Facebook feed, and for once it's something I agree with:

(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/11058577_1888926591332516_8046368200922344698_n.jpg?oh=bccebdb14800cbba9763b5efe85144da&oe=568703F3)


Another sign since the U.S. is gearing towards the 2016 Presidential election:

(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/155667_172959236065270_4922419_n.jpg?oh=145197318fa77fbae616f62ba568dc41&oe=56A61AAE)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on October 05, 2015, 11:39:14 am
i like both. i'd like to see what 2 years' worth of diapers looks like. must be huge.

and regarding the second sign, i wholeheartedly agree, although i'm usually chewed out for not voting.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: nickiknack on October 05, 2015, 12:09:39 pm
With the 2nd sign, a lot of the voter apathy is due the fact that people vote in people who don't want to even fucking govern from the get go and then they complain about nothing being done. I know, I've been there with the voter apathy, I wasn't even going to vote in the election last year, because of my apathy, until my friends guilt tripped me into doing so(turns out it felt good sticking it to the corporate Democrat Cuomo, and helping the Green party move up on the ballot in my state).
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on October 05, 2015, 12:32:29 pm
With the 2nd sign, a lot of the voter apathy is due the fact that people vote in people who don't want to even fucking govern from the get go and then they complain about nothing being done. I know, I've been there with the voter apathy, I wasn't even going to vote in the election last year, because of my apathy, until my friends guilt tripped me into doing so(turns out it felt good sticking it to the corporate Democrat Cuomo, and helping the Green party move up on the ballot in my state).

oh, it's not apathy in my case, more of a political conviction that nobody should govern anyone but him or herself. pushed to its logical extreme, i don't vote and don't expect anyone else to follow my ideology. but i understand why people vote and good on them.

for the story behind it. voting is a right, not a duty (at least in france. i believe it's a duty in belgium). i pondered the distinction and came to the conclusion that any right can be forfeit if you understand the implications.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on October 06, 2015, 02:44:28 pm
I'm going to vote. I don't care if some states have gerymandering and dumb "Voter ID" laws....NOT voting would make things even worse.

If every non-deranged American voted, you'd see a progressive landslide even with the above barriers and the Far-Right Tealiban citizens ALWAYS VOTE EN MASSE.

No candidate is perfect but Bernie & Hillary are better than the alternative.

Over time, politics will move left-ward if the majority votes consistently enough.

I'm 40-years old, I've seen the reverse happen. Fewer people voting and wingnuts always voting.....nation moves right-ward, even the saner Democratic party.

To me, voting is only futile in you live in North Korea or something. As plutocratic as the United States is, it at least still has some amount of freedom and democracy (even if it's endangered).

As far as I'm concerned, this country is still a secular democratic republic under the United States Constitution and that any of that fascist, plutocratic, theocratic, police-state nonsense is technically illegal! Until someone gets on a podium and explicitly declares the Constitution null & void, this is still (technically) a free, constitutional democratic republic (regardless of evidence otherwise). The Plutocrats, Theocrats and murderous bad cops are breaking the highest law of the land, period!

The reason I always look for a silver lining and stay positive is because.....
* I would go crazy, otherwise.
* You need a high morale to have the will to fight and better the world.

If that makes me a fool, then let me don that jester's cap!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 06, 2015, 03:42:13 pm
Honestly, I kinda understand where you're comin from.  Personally, I take an "eeh, why not?" approach to voting.  Sure, the whole thing's rigged against...well, thinking people, but naught ventured, naught gained and all that.  If nothing else, it give ya an excuse to get out of the house for a little bit, stave off the cabin fever.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: davedan on October 06, 2015, 06:52:15 pm


Another sign since the U.S. is gearing towards the 2016 Presidential election:

(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/155667_172959236065270_4922419_n.jpg?oh=145197318fa77fbae616f62ba568dc41&oe=56A61AAE)

This is an old anarchist slogan, I've got it in my copy of the "Heretics Handbook of Quotations". Which I would recommend the fuck out of, you can get it online from Wordpress.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kat S. on October 06, 2015, 07:03:33 pm
Regardless of political beliefs, it still has a universal appeal to it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rookie on October 06, 2015, 10:35:20 pm
The sign isn't really wrong.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: davedan on October 06, 2015, 10:51:54 pm
That's why I would recommend the Heretics Handbook - very fun book
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on October 06, 2015, 11:07:24 pm
The sign isn't really wrong.

It reminds me a bit of this old gem:

Quote
This is a story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody and Nobody.  There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.  Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it.  Somebody got angry about that, because it was Everybody’s job.  Everybody thought Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn’t do it.  It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 07, 2015, 09:49:03 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/chlie.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on October 07, 2015, 10:01:59 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/chlie.jpg)

hey, that's not fair! how is rookie gonna find the dog breed he wants without racial profiling?!

if somebody needs me, i'll be missing the point over there.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lady Evil on October 11, 2015, 06:11:50 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/chlie.jpg)

hey, that's not fair! how is rookie gonna find the dog breed he wants without racial profiling?!

if somebody needs me, i'll be missing the point over there.

That dogs a pit bull, right? Lots of people want to write them off as savage, dangerous and uncontrollable, but they can be lovable pets if raised right.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cloud3514 on October 13, 2015, 04:23:58 am
The problem I have with it is that I see it as equating the issue of racially charged violence to the issue of people stereotyping pit bulls as dangerous. Both of these are issues, but one of them is clearly much bigger than the other.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on October 13, 2015, 04:56:39 am
It's the same concept. People and animals are being judged based on a stereotype.

The fact that the human victims are considered more important than the animals does not change the fact that both suffer due to the same reason and you can have  sympathy for more than one group of victims at the same time.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on October 13, 2015, 09:37:11 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/chlie.jpg)

hey, that's not fair! how is rookie gonna find the dog breed he wants without racial profiling?!

if somebody needs me, i'll be missing the point over there.

That dogs a pit bull, right? Lots of people want to write them off as savage, dangerous and uncontrollable, but they can be lovable pets if raised right.

In fairness, all dogs can be savage, dangerous and uncontrollable if raised wrong. If anything, I've found pit bulls and other large breeds to be easier to train and generally gentler and more loving than tiny lapdogs.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on October 13, 2015, 01:23:21 pm
Heck, in the old days, they often had the opposite reputation. They were once known as friendly "nanny dogs" that were great for children!

Pete The Pup from Our Gang/The Little Rascals was a Pit Bull. Buster Brown's doggie sidekick, Tige was a Pit Bull.

It wasn't until the late 80s-90s that Pit Bulls became the "Killer Death Doggie Of Doom".....I guess people got bored with ripping on Rottweilers, Dobermans & German Shepherds.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cloud3514 on October 13, 2015, 02:59:21 pm
It's the same concept. People and animals are being judged based on a stereotype.

The fact that the human victims are considered more important than the animals does not change the fact that both suffer due to the same reason and you can have  sympathy for more than one group of victims at the same time.

I'm not trying to argue that there isn't an issue with stereotyping pit bulls. I just don't think the issue should be equated to racial violence and I think it's demeaning to victims of racial violence to do so. Regardless of them being similar in concept, there are major differences in importance.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on October 13, 2015, 03:21:00 pm
It's the same concept. People and animals are being judged based on a stereotype.

The fact that the human victims are considered more important than the animals does not change the fact that both suffer due to the same reason and you can have  sympathy for more than one group of victims at the same time.

I'm not trying to argue that there isn't an issue with stereotyping pit bulls. I just don't think the issue should be equated to racial violence and I think it's demeaning to victims of racial violence to do so. Regardless of them being similar in concept, there are major differences in importance.

And I am trying to say that I don't think mentioning that some dogs suffer due to the same practice of judging them due to stereotypes is going to diminish the importance of getting rid of racial profiling of humans. This isn't like PETA saying that raising livestock is LITERALLY HOLOCAUST this campaign highlights two practices of judging people and animals harshly (and preemptively) due to stereotypes and says that both are wrong.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rookie on October 14, 2015, 11:09:49 am
The parallels most certainly are there. Honestly for the same reasons (environment/nurture). However the comparison does cheapen the human racial issue a bit.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheL on October 15, 2015, 06:19:08 pm
The parallels most certainly are there. Honestly for the same reasons (environment/nurture). However the comparison does cheapen the human racial issue a bit.

That's the point.  Comparing Little Bad Thing to Big Bad Thing always cheapens the bigger bad thing and belittles it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 20, 2015, 04:22:58 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/fve39t.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SCarpelan on October 20, 2015, 05:21:36 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/chlie.jpg)

hey, that's not fair! how is rookie gonna find the dog breed he wants without racial profiling?!

if somebody needs me, i'll be missing the point over there.
Actually, you are closer to the truth than the image. "Racially" profiling dog breeds is different than doing it with humans since unlike humans the dogs have been artificially bred to have certain characteristics. The problem with pitbulls' reputation is that their breed characteristics are misunderstood, not the "profiling" in itself.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on October 21, 2015, 12:58:28 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/fve39t.jpg)

*pick up the puppeh and gives it loves*
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Veras on October 21, 2015, 02:39:14 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/fve39t.jpg)

I think we all know that it is the Pomeranians that are truly to blame.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Barbarella on October 23, 2015, 04:27:52 am
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/fve39t.jpg)

I think we all know that it is the Pomeranians that are truly to blame.

No! It's those Chihuahuas! Those little bug-eyed yappy little stinkers are behind everything!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on October 23, 2015, 09:59:13 am
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/fve39t.jpg)

I think we all know that it is the Pomeranians that are truly to blame.

No! It's those Chihuahuas! Those little bug-eyed yappy little stinkers are behind everything!

Seriously, who decided that Chihuahuas got promoted to "dog" from "mutated sewer rat"? Who made that decision?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 23, 2015, 10:06:11 am
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/fve39t.jpg)

I think we all know that it is the Pomeranians that are truly to blame.

No! It's those Chihuahuas! Those little bug-eyed yappy little stinkers are behind everything!

Seriously, who decided that Chihuahuas got promoted to "dog" from "mutated sewer rat"? Who made that decision?

The Toltecs, I think.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The_Queen on October 23, 2015, 07:25:52 pm
Damn, Hillary pwns this clown and plugs her book in one fell swoop. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COb-mynpUL0?t=501)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on October 23, 2015, 08:13:16 pm
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aojqy1A_460s.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Veras on October 24, 2015, 01:02:39 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/fve39t.jpg)

I think we all know that it is the Pomeranians that are truly to blame.

No! It's those Chihuahuas! Those little bug-eyed yappy little stinkers are behind everything!

Seriously, who decided that Chihuahuas got promoted to "dog" from "mutated sewer rat"? Who made that decision?

The Toltecs, I think.

And then the Aztecs demoted them to livestock.  Have you ever wondered why Chihuahuas are so nervous all the time?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 30, 2015, 12:52:38 pm
(http://oi68.tinypic.com/33n85r6.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 30, 2015, 06:43:05 pm
This is the happiest video I've seen in a long time.

British reporter gets pissed off and reports the fucking news. (https://www.facebook.com/208554969229283/videos/922735787811194/)  This is beautiful.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on October 30, 2015, 10:03:29 pm
Oh happy day! We have us the UK's answer to Colbert Report and Daily Show in a YouTube format. It's like a field reporter's The Office. Here's his main page:

http://www.youtube.com/user/tomwalker78
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 01, 2015, 09:56:14 pm
(http://oi64.tinypic.com/15fp506.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on November 02, 2015, 05:17:56 am
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12196201_1065003460207186_2614799574922049703_n.jpg?oh=b64b754a3e89d0ce6b53d940c8ec2e08&oe=56B61F4F)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on November 02, 2015, 10:16:48 am
(http://oi64.tinypic.com/15fp506.jpg)

Seriously...most of the naturally sweetest dogs I've known have been from "dangerous" breeds. It's the yappy little lapdogs you have to watch.

Except for pugs. Pugs are awesome.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on November 02, 2015, 10:31:39 am
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12196201_1065003460207186_2614799574922049703_n.jpg?oh=b64b754a3e89d0ce6b53d940c8ec2e08&oe=56B61F4F)

Yeah, in the early to mid twentieth, that kind of cock blocking against investigating the death off a head of state would have started a war quick as wildfire. Also, the immediate dismissal made by Russia that the recent crash could not have been caused by a "man pad" anti aircraft missile is dubious - the plane was at 31,000 feet above sea level, not including the high mountains it was flying over at the time. It was well within range of portable missile weapon systems, and remember that IS has stolen tens of millions of dollars to buy on black market and has over-run govt. army installations and looted shit like crazy. The plane has been determined to have broken up at high altitude, spilling some of the bodies over miles and miles. That's not a mechanical failure scenario. That's a missile hit or a planted bomb.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 02, 2015, 11:59:03 am
(http://oi64.tinypic.com/15fp506.jpg)

Seriously...most of the naturally sweetest dogs I've known have been from "dangerous" breeds. It's the yappy little lapdogs you have to watch.

Except for pugs. Pugs are awesome.

There's actually an explanation for that.  It's called "size leniency."  Some owners don't train smaller dogs properly, thinking they can't do any damage if they misbehave.

So once again, it's an owner problem, not a dog problem.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 05, 2015, 07:56:06 am
(http://www.bilaterals.org/IMG/jpg/1tppnz.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on November 11, 2015, 03:59:17 am
(http://i.imgur.com/wkbZBYy.jpg)

No sources in the picture so I can't guarantee the accuracy of this claim.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on November 11, 2015, 08:21:09 am
I wouldn't be surprised, considering the rates of psychological trauma amongst soldiers and how brutally we fuck them over once they come back home.  I don't have the typical American soldier-worship, but even I think we need to take better care of our vets than we're currently giving them...which is effectively shit.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on November 11, 2015, 08:30:08 am
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/02/04/the-missing-context-behind-a-widely-cited-statistic-that-there-are-22-veteran-suicides-a-day/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/02/04/the-missing-context-behind-a-widely-cited-statistic-that-there-are-22-veteran-suicides-a-day/)

It's a misunderstanding, at best. The CDC and the VA are working now on a large study to try and more accurately portray what's going on with vets. The stats will be released next year.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 14, 2015, 12:48:46 am
(http://oi66.tinypic.com/2qx9pi8.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on November 14, 2015, 08:46:10 am
(https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12249686_887232241392308_5352309598117513097_n.jpg?oh=5c7242d80662f0cc13a523d9c1dd4ae1&oe=56AFC571)

(http://www.bdsm.fr/file/pic/photo/11/2015/fd10490e4f273f9496c942a495cfb0a3_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Random Gal on November 15, 2015, 12:16:09 am
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12239894_10153620754317367_2929166924506175280_n.jpg?oh=c4cd0aab3bf6c87d6ca14dfee47fa74d&oe=56BCC5AD)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The_Queen on November 15, 2015, 12:17:56 am
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12239894_10153620754317367_2929166924506175280_n.jpg?oh=c4cd0aab3bf6c87d6ca14dfee47fa74d&oe=56BCC5AD)

What if I really hate Atheists, but I'm cool with the other four, can I still be a not-asshole?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: pyro on November 15, 2015, 12:32:01 am
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12239894_10153620754317367_2929166924506175280_n.jpg?oh=c4cd0aab3bf6c87d6ca14dfee47fa74d&oe=56BCC5AD)

What if I really hate Atheists, but I'm cool with the other four, can I still be a not-asshole?

... No? Hating an entire group of people, most of whom you've never met, for something that any reasonable person would agree is not wrong in and of itself, is kinda assholish. Same reason people are constantly nagging Nemi.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ironchew on November 15, 2015, 12:34:06 am
What if I really hate Atheists, but I'm cool with the other four, can I still be a not-asshole?

Of course. It's one of those know-your-place-atheists kind of signs -- made in that finest tradition of telling uppity minorities to stop rocking the boat.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: pyro on November 15, 2015, 12:52:36 am
What if I really hate Atheists, but I'm cool with the other four, can I still be a not-asshole?

Of course. It's one of those know-your-place-atheists kind of signs -- made in that finest tradition of telling uppity minorities to stop rocking the boat.

Really? The sign doesn't seem to call any one group out. The worst interpretation I got out of this picture is that the poster is proud of themself for finding a way to feel superior to the Christians, the Jews, the Pagans, the Muslims, and the Atheists all at once.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ironchew on November 15, 2015, 01:21:54 am
What if I really hate Atheists, but I'm cool with the other four, can I still be a not-asshole?

Of course. It's one of those know-your-place-atheists kind of signs -- made in that finest tradition of telling uppity minorities to stop rocking the boat.

Really? The sign doesn't seem to call any one group out. The worst interpretation I got out of this picture is that the poster is proud of themself for finding a way to feel superior to the Christians, the Jews, the Pagans, the Muslims, and the Atheists all at once.

The problem is "not an asshole" all too often means not breaking existing social conventions. In the United States, at least, devout displays of religiosity are a social convention and atheists are supposed to sit there and nod their heads when it happens.

It's the kind of message that might sound nice unless you've experienced the flipside of that culture.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on November 15, 2015, 01:48:43 am
What if I really hate Atheists, but I'm cool with the other four, can I still be a not-asshole?

Of course. It's one of those know-your-place-atheists kind of signs -- made in that finest tradition of telling uppity minorities to stop rocking the boat.

Really? The sign doesn't seem to call any one group out. The worst interpretation I got out of this picture is that the poster is proud of themself for finding a way to feel superior to the Christians, the Jews, the Pagans, the Muslims, and the Atheists all at once.

The problem is "not an asshole" all too often means not breaking existing social conventions. In the United States, at least, devout displays of religiosity are a social convention and atheists are supposed to sit there and nod their heads when it happens.

It's the kind of message that might sound nice unless you've experienced the flipside of that culture.

...That's not what the image is about. The image says that despite having differing beliefs people can get along AND that assuming that their different beliefs would automatically cause conflict is part of the problem.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SCarpelan on November 15, 2015, 08:24:28 am
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12239894_10153620754317367_2929166924506175280_n.jpg?oh=c4cd0aab3bf6c87d6ca14dfee47fa74d&oe=56BCC5AD)
Reminds me of the time I had lunch after class with some friends and we started discussing the concept of evil and supernatural experiences. I realized we had an atheist (me), a reborn Christian, a New Age hippie and a Satanist having a civil, respecting conversation about these subjects.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The_Queen on November 15, 2015, 10:17:54 am
Wow, my joke got taken to an absurd extreme.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rookie on November 15, 2015, 11:46:22 am
It's amazing what happens when people aren't one dimensional hyperboles of themselves. When that group also happens to have other things going on in their lives. When well rounded complete people sit down and talk about similarities rather than differences. When someone can be a [religious group] AND a sports fan AND a decent artist AND a mechanic AND a AND a.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Random Gal on November 16, 2015, 12:26:38 am
I did an internship in South Dakota with five other interns back in 2010. The six of use were a Catholic, a Protestant, a Jew, a Wiccan, an atheist, and a Deist respectively. We never argued about religion.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rookie on November 16, 2015, 12:54:15 pm
A group like that, I'd be looking forward to a huge ass one and done argument/discussion/shouting match for the ages. But then it's done and people act like people and not stereotypes.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 18, 2015, 05:03:33 pm
(http://oi63.tinypic.com/30kdtah.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on November 18, 2015, 08:58:56 pm
Careful, some red piller might drive by and shoot ya, yellin' "False Flag, rag heads!"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 20, 2015, 12:42:06 pm
(http://oi64.tinypic.com/28horox.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on November 23, 2015, 03:32:29 am
(http://i.imgur.com/YRt1HAc.jpg)

That is probably a biased source and without checking I can't claim that there aren't Democrats who voted against the proposition. ...I still think think it's funny that the pro-war and pro-life party opposes propositions that would help the health of citizens in general and veterans in particular.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Random Gal on November 23, 2015, 03:47:56 am
Heh, so much for "Support Our Troops," then.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: niam2023 on November 23, 2015, 04:01:14 am
They support em while they're fighting and killing and spilling blood. They probably think the troops are too boring to support when they're at home and not killing anything like "good soldiers do".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on November 23, 2015, 04:11:38 am
There were claims that the "bill was a poison bill" with Democrats attaching all kinds of bullshit to it ans that was why Republicans voted against it.

Someone also claimed that actually there were no such riders on the bill and the reason why Republicans voted against is that they wanted to add Iran sanctions to the bill and when these were refused they threw a hissy fit.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/1982 In case you want to read through it and see what it really said. I'm lazy and there's like 61 amendments added to it (because 'Murican politics.)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Id82 on November 23, 2015, 10:59:34 am
Really Mccain voted for that? I figured him being an ex military guy would support the troops somewhat.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on November 23, 2015, 11:13:30 am
Lots of good legislation gets drowned by the weight of partisan amendments and also just to thwart the Dems from "winning" at anything at all, even a bill that the GOP would support fully when they make their own version of it. "The Party of No", Stealing their thunder. This bill was originally introduced by Bernie Sanders and Harry Reid. It's why this truly is the worst Congress not just so far in US history, but the worst anyone could even imagine since the Secessionists at the start of the Civil War.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on November 24, 2015, 02:16:33 am
(http://i.imgur.com/SNngaSU.jpg)

John Oliver's Last week tonight is an awesome show.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Svata on November 24, 2015, 11:51:30 am
Found it last week (a week ago today, oddly enough) and hage been binge-watching the fuck out of what's on youtube. And yeah, that sums up my opinion.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 25, 2015, 05:18:32 pm
(http://oi63.tinypic.com/wmnl7k.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Random Gal on November 26, 2015, 02:06:28 am
*snip*

John Oliver's Last week tonight is an awesome show.

Thanksgiving was about cooperation between the settlers and the natives though...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on November 26, 2015, 02:49:31 am
*snip*

John Oliver's Last week tonight is an awesome show.

Thanksgiving was about cooperation between the settlers and the natives though...
But the celebration is about the time when the settlers came in and took over the place. ...The fact that the natives welcomed them into the country without realizing that they signed their own death warrants just means that it is the perfect example for the racists who claim that liberals are doing the same now that Muslims are "invading" the west.

...I kinda wish that someone would actually use it as an example of destructive invaders who subvert the local culture, wipe out any opposition and take over the land. But I suppose having (mainly) white people as the bad guys does not fit the narrative that the racists are trying to create.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 28, 2015, 12:32:58 pm
(http://oi65.tinypic.com/33ygp38.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Svata on November 28, 2015, 01:24:38 pm
(http://oi65.tinypic.com/33ygp38.jpg)


That's the oddest picture of Edison I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on December 04, 2015, 02:31:30 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVREfv1WUAAk93_.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on December 07, 2015, 12:01:10 am
(https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/381075_10150543891493628_818338105_n.jpg?oh=408f7d219d884205ffb1f48d19bb71b2&oe=56F137E3)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Art Vandelay on December 07, 2015, 12:02:38 am
Why let a little basic decency get in the way of a good persecution complex?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Skybison on December 07, 2015, 02:16:40 am
I never understood the war on christmas thing at all.

Shouldn't christians be against using the birth of Jesus as an excuse to sell crap in an orgy of commercialism?  seems sacriligous to me.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: pyro on December 07, 2015, 02:35:17 am
I never understood the war on christmas thing at all.

Shouldn't christians be against using the birth of Jesus as an excuse to sell crap in an orgy of commercialism?  seems sacriligous to me.

Commercialism is a problem, but continuing the commercialism under another name isn't a solution.

The idea of trying to keep our major holidays Christian-themed is to make sure nonbelievers feel alienated. Attempting to accommodate other faiths means that the traditions are no longer based on Christianity.

In other words, the goals of the "war on Christmas" crowd are literally the opposite of inclusiveness.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheL on December 07, 2015, 03:31:27 pm
I never understood the war on christmas thing at all.

Shouldn't christians be against using the birth of Jesus as an excuse to sell crap in an orgy of commercialism?  seems sacriligous to me.

That's what those "Keep Christ in Christmas" bumper stickers USED TO be about.  Then the current "War on Xmas" idiocy started.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 12, 2015, 03:41:56 pm
(http://oi64.tinypic.com/2n1gpsp.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on December 12, 2015, 07:04:51 pm
(http://oi64.tinypic.com/2n1gpsp.jpg)

What? That doesn't follow at all. There are more Africans and Asians that white people. Therefore do police kill more of them?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 12, 2015, 07:09:18 pm
(http://oi64.tinypic.com/2n1gpsp.jpg)

What? That doesn't follow at all. There are more Africans and Asians that white people. Therefore do police kill more of them?

In America, it meant.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Canadian Mojo on December 12, 2015, 07:32:54 pm
(http://oi64.tinypic.com/2n1gpsp.jpg)

What? That doesn't follow at all. There are more Africans and Asians that white people. Therefore do police kill more of them?

In America, it meant.

Yeah. If I remember right it is something like 10% of the population is black but they account for close to, but less than, 50% of the people killed by police. This doesn't stop some people with a very particular axe to grind from playing with numbers to point out that most of the victims are white.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheContrarian on December 12, 2015, 07:56:07 pm
(http://oi64.tinypic.com/2n1gpsp.jpg)

What? That doesn't follow at all. There are more Africans and Asians that white people. Therefore do police kill more of them?

In America, it meant.

Yeah. If I remember right it is something like 10% of the population is black but they account for close to, but less than, 50% of the people killed by police. This doesn't stop some people with a very particular axe to grind from playing with numbers to point out that most of the victims are white.

You mean like how about 10% of the US population is black but the account for somewhere around 40% of the violent crimes?

Or is posting inconvenient crime figures (https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-43) a hatecrime punishable by cyber-violence these days?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Canadian Mojo on December 12, 2015, 08:24:57 pm
Urban poverty numbers make for interesting correlations too.

I'm betting you already knew that though.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on December 12, 2015, 11:18:44 pm
(http://oi64.tinypic.com/2n1gpsp.jpg)

What? That doesn't follow at all. There are more Africans and Asians that white people. Therefore do police kill more of them?

In America, it meant.

Yeah. If I remember right it is something like 10% of the population is black but they account for close to, but less than, 50% of the people killed by police. This doesn't stop some people with a very particular axe to grind from playing with numbers to point out that most of the victims are white.

You mean like how about 10% of the US population is black but the account for somewhere around 40% of the violent crimes?

Or is posting inconvenient crime figures (https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-43) a hatecrime punishable by cyber-violence these days?

~90% of genocides are committed by people who look like you. Perhaps we should shoot you on a street corner without trial?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheContrarian on December 13, 2015, 04:13:34 am
(http://oi64.tinypic.com/2n1gpsp.jpg)

What? That doesn't follow at all. There are more Africans and Asians that white people. Therefore do police kill more of them?

In America, it meant.

Yeah. If I remember right it is something like 10% of the population is black but they account for close to, but less than, 50% of the people killed by police. This doesn't stop some people with a very particular axe to grind from playing with numbers to point out that most of the victims are white.

You mean like how about 10% of the US population is black but the account for somewhere around 40% of the violent crimes?

Or is posting inconvenient crime figures (https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-43) a hatecrime punishable by cyber-violence these days?

~90% of genocides are committed by people who look like you. Perhaps we should shoot you on a street corner without trial?

Nothing much since my great-grandad's generation.

There's been a fair few in african nations since independence though.

Wanna try again?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on December 13, 2015, 08:22:22 am
i interpreted lt. fred's comment as a general "you", rather than you being targetted, conty. then, again, should we mention the troubles? or doesn't that count on the basis that it's a war of religion?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on December 13, 2015, 09:33:05 am
I have gotten the impression that the Troubles were a lot more political than religious and it just happened to be so that the division went along the religious line.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Art Vandelay on December 13, 2015, 09:52:01 am
I thought it was largely ethnic. Basically, native Irish vs. the descendents of Scottish and English settlers. Religion just happens to be the most visible difference between the two.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Canadian Mojo on December 13, 2015, 10:09:24 am
Wanna try again?

Iraq.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on December 13, 2015, 10:14:03 am
What about Bosnian genocide? Do the participants count as white/european ethnically? Honestly I'm not sure how people draw these lines, but it was a genocide and the victims were chosen by ethnicity and/or religion.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Even Then on December 13, 2015, 10:16:30 am
- The alleged modern genocides committed by ethnic Africans in Africa don't erase systemic ethnic inequalities in the West.
- Crime statistics don't exist in a vacuum. The systemic, centuries-long disenfranchisement and marginalization of an ethnic group can logically lead to a larger number of the members of said group descending into crime or being tried for said crime more frequently than the privileged ethnic group precisely because of said marginalization (which is not to say that the marginalized ethnic group committing crimes is excusable or justified or that members of marginalized ethnic groups only commit crime because of their marginalization, just to nip that in the bud before it blossoms). Again, crime statistics don't exist in a vacuum.
- Contextless crime statistics aren't an argument for one ethnic group being inherently more violent than another one. By saying otherwise, one implies that arson, vandalism, sex offences, drunkenness and breaking liquor laws are inherent to the white condition in the USA (and by pulling other nations into it, one further implies that the same is true of all white people, everywhere).
- None of what I just wrote will stop TheContrarian from being a deliberately obtuse wanker.

Am I in the ballpark?

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 13, 2015, 10:43:30 am
- The alleged modern genocides committed by ethnic Africans in Africa don't erase systemic ethnic inequalities in the West.
- Crime statistics don't exist in a vacuum. The systemic, centuries-long disenfranchisement and marginalization of an ethnic group can logically lead to a larger number of the members of said group descending into crime or being tried for said crime more frequently than the privileged ethnic group precisely because of said marginalization (which is not to say that the marginalized ethnic group committing crimes is excusable or justified or that members of marginalized ethnic groups only commit crime because of their marginalization, just to nip that in the bud before it blossoms). Again, crime statistics don't exist in a vacuum.
- Contextless crime statistics aren't an argument for one ethnic group being inherently more violent than another one. By saying otherwise, one implies that arson, vandalism, sex offences, drunkenness and breaking liquor laws are inherent to the white condition in the USA (and by pulling other nations into it, one further implies that the same is true of all white people, everywhere).
- None of what I just wrote will stop TheContrarian from being a deliberately obtuse wanker.

Am I in the ballpark?

I'd say so, but who knows?  Maybe he'll pleasantly surprise us.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheContrarian on December 13, 2015, 02:56:16 pm
Yep.  The troubles.  Obviously genocide.

I mean put it side by side with Rwanda, Sierra Leone and the war in the Congo and you can see the immediate similarity.  ^_^

(http://static1.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1547/15472848/2844582-4490507009-movin.gif)

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheContrarian on December 13, 2015, 03:02:17 pm
What about Bosnian genocide? Do the participants count as white/european ethnically? Honestly I'm not sure how people draw these lines, but it was a genocide and the victims were chosen by ethnicity and/or religion.

I'm not actually convinced Serbia is a real thing.  I think it's an elaborate practical joke Russians have been playing on the world since about 1448.

In any case, time for a brief musical interlude.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB9WgR_N4h4
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on December 13, 2015, 03:04:54 pm
What about Bosnian genocide? Do the participants count as white/european ethnically? Honestly I'm not sure how people draw these lines, but it was a genocide and the victims were chosen by ethnicity and/or religion.

I'm not actually convinced Serbia is a real thing.  I think it's an elaborate practical joke Russians have been playing on the world since about 1448.

Funnily enough you decided to ignore the Bosnian genocide while talking about shifting goals.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheContrarian on December 13, 2015, 03:08:00 pm
What about Bosnian genocide? Do the participants count as white/european ethnically? Honestly I'm not sure how people draw these lines, but it was a genocide and the victims were chosen by ethnicity and/or religion.

I'm not actually convinced Serbia is a real thing.  I think it's an elaborate practical joke Russians have been playing on the world since about 1448.

Funnily enough you decided to ignore the Bosnian genocide while talking about shifting goals.

Who was it committing the bosnian genocide?  Oh yeah Serbs.  I believe I may have given them a mention XD
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on December 13, 2015, 03:23:11 pm
Yep.  The troubles.  Obviously genocide.

I mean put it side by side with Rwanda, Sierra Leone and the war in the Congo and you can see the immediate similarity.  ^_^


pardon my latin, but in a stricto sensu definition of genocide, it is the targetting of victims based both on race, origin, and religious beliefs. meaning that by a technicality, the troubles count, since it was targetting the irish by the irish, based on their faith. hell, it's that technicality that allowed the nazis to indiscriminately target ashkenazi, sefardic, falasha, and other ethnicities of jews.

i'll give you that race was not the primary factor in the troubles, thus my questionning it based both on political and religious reasons, as others have said before me.

also, i'm not gonna expound on it, but have we mentionned the armenian genocide here, yet? just out of curiosity and completionism.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheContrarian on December 13, 2015, 03:34:31 pm
Yep.  The troubles.  Obviously genocide.

I mean put it side by side with Rwanda, Sierra Leone and the war in the Congo and you can see the immediate similarity.  ^_^


pardon my latin, but in a stricto sensu definition of genocide, it is the targetting of victims based both on race, origin, and religious beliefs. meaning that by a technicality, the troubles count, since it was targetting the irish by the irish, based on their faith. hell, it's that technicality that allowed the nazis to indiscriminately target ashkenazi, sefardic, falasha, and other ethnicities of jews.

i'll give you that race was not the primary factor in the troubles, thus my questionning it based both on political and religious reasons, as others have said before me.

also, i'm not gonna expound on it, but have we mentionned the armenian genocide here, yet? just out of curiosity and completionism.

1. If you suddenly decide to classify every period of sectarian violence in history as genocide your list becomes so long as to basically become meaningless. 

2. The initial accusation was that white people commit 90% of all genocides.  Ottoman Turks are now...white?  Bit of a stretch, why don't we include the rape of the nanking aswell if we're going for completionism eh?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on December 13, 2015, 03:50:59 pm
Yep.  The troubles.  Obviously genocide.

I mean put it side by side with Rwanda, Sierra Leone and the war in the Congo and you can see the immediate similarity.  ^_^


pardon my latin, but in a stricto sensu definition of genocide, it is the targetting of victims based both on race, origin, and religious beliefs. meaning that by a technicality, the troubles count, since it was targetting the irish by the irish, based on their faith. hell, it's that technicality that allowed the nazis to indiscriminately target ashkenazi, sefardic, falasha, and other ethnicities of jews.

i'll give you that race was not the primary factor in the troubles, thus my questionning it based both on political and religious reasons, as others have said before me.

also, i'm not gonna expound on it, but have we mentionned the armenian genocide here, yet? just out of curiosity and completionism.

1. If you suddenly decide to classify every period of sectarian violence in history as genocide your list becomes so long as to basically become meaningless. 

2. The initial accusation was that white people commit 90% of all genocides.  Ottoman Turks are now...white?  Bit of a stretch, why don't we include the rape of the nanking aswell if we're going for completionism eh?

1. i never said that. i didn't stress the point that for a genocide to occur, the be-all end-all goal is to kill as many as possible. the crusades weren't a genocide. there was a goal behind it. the killing of europeans/muslims was incidental.

2. once again, i believe you misinterpreted a remark. there was a mention of "90% of genocides are committed by people that resemble you", but once again, i insist that that was a general "you". meaning that no, there's no "90% of genocides are committed by whites"(assuming you're white), more like "90% of genocides are committed by people that look alike/share a background/culture". at least, that's what i'm talking about. i don't know for the rest of the board. so based on my interpretation, the troubles counts (irish vs. irish), rwanda counts (hutu vs. tutsi), and nazis count sort of (in the case of the ashkenazi).

but since you brought up the rape of nanking, it's asian vs. asian (granted, not chinese vs. chinese, but vs. japanese). i believe the 90% figure is a pidooma, but there is an undeniable pattern. off the top of my head, the only counter-example i can think of is regarding native americans. there's more i'm sure, but let's face it, i'm only giving this discussion cursory interest.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on December 13, 2015, 04:04:27 pm
There is the point that "white" only refers to pale Caucasians of northern European ancestry. Turks are most assuredly included in the old school description of the Caucasian Group of "races", just like the Persians/Iranians, the Greeks and Italians, Semites, and peoples from northern India (who were thought to have migrated there from the Steppes).
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 13, 2015, 04:23:39 pm
Yep.  The troubles.  Obviously genocide.

I mean put it side by side with Rwanda, Sierra Leone and the war in the Congo and you can see the immediate similarity.  ^_^


pardon my latin, but in a stricto sensu definition of genocide, it is the targetting of victims based both on race, origin, and religious beliefs. meaning that by a technicality, the troubles count, since it was targetting the irish by the irish, based on their faith. hell, it's that technicality that allowed the nazis to indiscriminately target ashkenazi, sefardic, falasha, and other ethnicities of jews.

i'll give you that race was not the primary factor in the troubles, thus my questionning it based both on political and religious reasons, as others have said before me.

also, i'm not gonna expound on it, but have we mentionned the armenian genocide here, yet? just out of curiosity and completionism.

1. If you suddenly decide to classify every period of sectarian violence in history as genocide your list becomes so long as to basically become meaningless. 

2. The initial accusation was that white people commit 90% of all genocides.  Ottoman Turks are now...white?  Bit of a stretch, why don't we include the rape of the nanking aswell if we're going for completionism eh?

1. i never said that. i didn't stress the point that for a genocide to occur, the be-all end-all goal is to kill as many as possible. the crusades weren't a genocide. there was a goal behind it. the killing of europeans/muslims was incidental.

2. once again, i believe you misinterpreted a remark. there was a mention of "90% of genocides are committed by people that resemble you", but once again, i insist that that was a general "you". meaning that no, there's no "90% of genocides are committed by whites"(assuming you're white), more like "90% of genocides are committed by people that look alike/share a background/culture". at least, that's what i'm talking about. i don't know for the rest of the board. so based on my interpretation, the troubles counts (irish vs. irish), rwanda counts (hutu vs. tutsi), and nazis count sort of (in the case of the ashkenazi).

but since you brought up the rape of nanking, it's asian vs. asian (granted, not chinese vs. chinese, but vs. japanese). i believe the 90% figure is a pidooma, but there is an undeniable pattern. off the top of my head, the only counter-example i can think of is regarding native americans. there's more i'm sure, but let's face it, i'm only giving this discussion cursory interest.

There are other counter-examples, like the Australian Aborigines, the Haitian massacres, or the Namibian genocides.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: guizonde on December 13, 2015, 04:27:01 pm
thanks, i knew there were more, but i couldn't think of them.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: TheContrarian on December 13, 2015, 04:35:04 pm
There is the point that "white" only refers to pale Caucasians of northern European ancestry. Turks are most assuredly included in the old school description of the Caucasian Group of "races", just like the Persians/Iranians, the Greeks and Italians, Semites, and peoples from northern India (who were thought to have migrated there from the Steppes).

I would have thought Turkic peoples would form their own ethnic group.

And if you want to get really literal the victims in the armenian genocide were caucasians in the truest sense of the word.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Eiki-mun on December 13, 2015, 04:48:34 pm
2. The initial accusation was that white people commit 90% of all genocides.  Ottoman Turks are now...white?  Bit of a stretch, why don't we include the rape of the nanking aswell if we're going for completionism eh?

I've had some people claim the Ottoman Turks are white. I don't know for sure, but if they're not, the Greeks sure as hell aren't either.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lt. Fred on December 13, 2015, 05:00:24 pm
(http://oi64.tinypic.com/2n1gpsp.jpg)

What? That doesn't follow at all. There are more Africans and Asians that white people. Therefore do police kill more of them?

In America, it meant.

Yeah. If I remember right it is something like 10% of the population is black but they account for close to, but less than, 50% of the people killed by police. This doesn't stop some people with a very particular axe to grind from playing with numbers to point out that most of the victims are white.

You mean like how about 10% of the US population is black but the account for somewhere around 40% of the violent crimes?

Or is posting inconvenient crime figures (https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-43) a hatecrime punishable by cyber-violence these days?

~90% of genocides are committed by people who look like you. Perhaps we should shoot you on a street corner without trial?

Nothing much since my great-grandad's generation.

There's been a fair few in african nations since independence though.

Wanna try again?

Congo Free state, Indian famines, Irish potato famine, and the Holocaust. All by your sort of people.

You're clearly racially inferior. What should be your punishment?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 20, 2015, 11:54:02 pm
(http://oi65.tinypic.com/2qi1qf9.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Art Vandelay on December 21, 2015, 01:34:49 am
Well, you've heard it here first, folks. We thep eo p l e are never wrong about these things.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: pyro on December 21, 2015, 11:08:29 pm
(http://oi65.tinypic.com/2qi1qf9.jpg)

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/kerning.png) (http://xkcd.com/1015/index.html)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 07, 2016, 11:15:57 am
(http://oi66.tinypic.com/29biq11.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Murdin on January 08, 2016, 03:07:35 am
(http://oi66.tinypic.com/29biq11.jpg)

You could replace "When Censorship is Good/Bad" with "When Criticism and Boycotts are (not) Censorship", and it would deliver an almost exactly opposite yet equally true message.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Nemo on January 31, 2016, 01:10:15 pm
The Facebook group isn't exactly sane, but the sign is still spot on.
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12651059_929111423791613_4860852582140659065_n.jpg?oh=31b2738a652a33051fb7b535597b115d&oe=572E364A)

I don't fully agree with every part of it, but I'm to this day baffled by how so many Republicans sincerely think Trump believes everything he says despite a history of supporting both sides when it suits him.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 31, 2016, 10:37:37 pm
The Facebook group isn't exactly sane, but the sign is still spot on.
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12651059_929111423791613_4860852582140659065_n.jpg?oh=31b2738a652a33051fb7b535597b115d&oe=572E364A)

I don't fully agree with every part of it, but I'm to this day baffled by how so many Republicans sincerely think Trump believes everything he says despite a history of supporting both sides when it suits him.

It's not the first time people rallied behind a flip-flopper.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 06, 2016, 12:05:14 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/QyjI9cj.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on February 06, 2016, 05:26:44 pm
Looks like one of those old snorg tees ads.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The_Queen on February 06, 2016, 05:34:03 pm
Paragon, context?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: R. U. Sirius on February 10, 2016, 10:04:44 am
Spoilered for size.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: pyro on February 10, 2016, 10:15:43 am
Nice Reason You Suck Speech, but I'd probably shorten it into an Armor Piercing Question:

[Congress goes on a long tirade about price gouging]

"Then why don't you make it illegal?"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 10, 2016, 11:11:00 am
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/b0/b02b83d6c74004dbe7920ae9e3c2f478d46a767ba33159993712dfc8f1284be1.jpg)

Gonna need a senzu for that one.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: niam2023 on February 10, 2016, 07:00:08 pm
You know what, his face. His face still pisses me off. The fact remains he did it.

And I'd accept even a weirdly worded law that says it is illegal to be named Martin Shkreli as long as it hurts him on most conceivable levels.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: pyro on February 10, 2016, 09:06:52 pm
And I'd accept even a weirdly worded law that says it is illegal to be named Martin Shkreli as long as it hurts him on most conceivable levels.

Like that didn't go wrong the last time it was tried. Going after evil people rarely helps, even if they are named Antoinette. If you don't categorically ban laws like that, they WILL be misapplied.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 15, 2016, 10:43:18 pm
(http://oi66.tinypic.com/2py52sp.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 15, 2016, 10:51:44 pm
A decent fucking vegan.  Not that PETA will take away from this what they should, but whatevs.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on February 15, 2016, 11:22:10 pm
(http://oi66.tinypic.com/2py52sp.jpg)

Would you make the same criticism of every organisation who didn't offer to unconditionally pay people's water bills?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Even Then on February 15, 2016, 11:44:00 pm
I'd say the point of contention here isn't "organizations are mandated to pay the water bills of everyone in need" but rather "if you actually gave a shit about the people, you'd give them the charity without imposing a condition they may not even be able to follow".
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Eiki-mun on February 15, 2016, 11:58:18 pm
I'd say the point of contention here isn't "organizations are mandated to pay the water bills of everyone in need" but rather "if you actually gave a shit about the people, you'd give them the charity without imposing a condition they may not even be able to follow".

Exactly. Let's keep in mind that going vegan and staying healthy, especially if you're not a meticulous planner about it, can be really expensive. Possibly significantly more expensive than just paying the water bill yourself. And that's not even bringing in how you'd monitor such a promise... like, if PETA dug through your trash and found an empty bacon wrapper, would they then suspend the payments? How would you even keep track of that?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: I am lizard on February 16, 2016, 12:14:13 am
I'd say the point of contention here isn't "organizations are mandated to pay the water bills of everyone in need" but rather "if you actually gave a shit about the people, you'd give them the charity without imposing a condition they may not even be able to follow".

Exactly. Let's keep in mind that going vegan and staying healthy, especially if you're not a meticulous planner about it, can be really expensive. Possibly significantly more expensive than just paying the water bill yourself. And that's not even bringing in how you'd monitor such a promise... like, if PETA dug through your trash and found an empty bacon wrapper, would they then suspend the payments? How would you even keep track of that?
Aren't things like tofu and beans generally cheaper than meat?
Not sure about dairy goods.

Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Eiki-mun on February 16, 2016, 12:44:06 am
I'd say the point of contention here isn't "organizations are mandated to pay the water bills of everyone in need" but rather "if you actually gave a shit about the people, you'd give them the charity without imposing a condition they may not even be able to follow".

Exactly. Let's keep in mind that going vegan and staying healthy, especially if you're not a meticulous planner about it, can be really expensive. Possibly significantly more expensive than just paying the water bill yourself. And that's not even bringing in how you'd monitor such a promise... like, if PETA dug through your trash and found an empty bacon wrapper, would they then suspend the payments? How would you even keep track of that?
Aren't things like tofu and beans generally cheaper than meat?
Not sure about dairy goods.

That's where the planning comes in.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on February 16, 2016, 01:33:38 am
I'd say the point of contention here isn't "organizations are mandated to pay the water bills of everyone in need" but rather "if you actually gave a shit about the people, you'd give them the charity without imposing a condition they may not even be able to follow".

You can give a shit about people and about other things, though?

I mean, PETA's job is to turn as many people into vegans as possible (among other things). If someone hears of this offer and can't or don't want to accept it, then they are no worse than before. If someone hears of this offer and can and want to accept it, then they and PETA are both better off.

...so what's the bad part?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: pyro on February 16, 2016, 02:00:38 am
I'd say the point of contention here isn't "organizations are mandated to pay the water bills of everyone in need" but rather "if you actually gave a shit about the people, you'd give them the charity without imposing a condition they may not even be able to follow".

You can give a shit about people and about other things, though?

I mean, PETA's job is to turn as many people into vegans as possible (among other things). If someone hears of this offer and can't or don't want to accept it, then they are no worse than before. If someone hears of this offer and can and want to accept it, then they and PETA are both better off.

...so what's the bad part?

The part where PETA takes advantage of a bad situation to force people to go vegan. Once you get thirsty enough, you don't have a choice.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Cloud3514 on February 16, 2016, 03:42:22 am
It shows that PETA doesn't actually give a shit about the people of Flint. They only want vegan converts. I don't see anything wrong with them helping people while encouraging them to go vegan because, well, regardless of methods, that is their goal here, but as is, they're effective holding the water hostage with a ransom of "conform to our lifestyles or else you have to choose between thirst and drinking lead water."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on February 16, 2016, 05:23:43 am
PETA are probably the most obnoxious "progressive" activists in existence.

"I say hullo Flint, we the enlightened upper middle class might deign to help you with your potable water problem if you only eat ethically sourced ancient grains and organically grown brussel sprouts like us real people. What do you say old bean?"
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on February 16, 2016, 08:48:29 am
I'd say the point of contention here isn't "organizations are mandated to pay the water bills of everyone in need" but rather "if you actually gave a shit about the people, you'd give them the charity without imposing a condition they may not even be able to follow".

You can give a shit about people and about other things, though?

I mean, PETA's job is to turn as many people into vegans as possible (among other things). If someone hears of this offer and can't or don't want to accept it, then they are no worse than before. If someone hears of this offer and can and want to accept it, then they and PETA are both better off.

...so what's the bad part?

The part where PETA takes advantage of a bad situation to force people to go vegan. Once you get thirsty enough, you don't have a choice.


Suppose that's true. Then a conditional offer to pay for water bills is strictly better than the absence of that offer, and yet PETA was not criticised before making the offer.

It shows that PETA doesn't actually give a shit about the people of Flint. They only want vegan converts. I don't see anything wrong with them helping people while encouraging them to go vegan because, well, regardless of methods, that is their goal here, but as is, they're effective holding the water hostage with a ransom of "conform to our lifestyles or else you have to choose between thirst and drinking lead water."

Minor point, but this is about Detroit, not Flint.

The problem with the idea of 'holding the water hostage' is that it's not PETA that decided to cut off water from people. When someone takes a hostage and a third party offers to help you for a price, that's not ransom. That's paying for a service.

And sure, let's say PETA doesn't care about the people of Flint. So? Most people don't care about most other people. Most people did less than PETA to help the people of Detroit.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Canadian Mojo on February 16, 2016, 09:45:48 am
If this is about Detroit and not Flint then not having access to clean water is strictly an economic issue and not a structural one. In other words, the people are too poor to pay the water bill and the city has shut it off as a result. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say people in this situation don't have the economic luxury of deciding to be vegan. Most of them are probably pennies away from choosing between going hungry, trapping rats and pigeons for food, or robbing convenience stores. The ones who aren't quite that desperate aren't much better off and being that choosy about diet isn't a realistic option. Just sourcing enough variety of vegan foods to make a healthy diet is probably next to impossible where these people live, and if you don't have water, odds are you don't have much access to transportation either.

PETA, as usual, are just being opportunistic dicks and exploiting an unrelated tragedy to further their agenda with the full knowledge that they won't actually have to lift a finger or write a cheque to help anyone because the hurdle to receive their help is too high.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SCarpelan on February 16, 2016, 09:57:37 am
PETA, as usual, are just being opportunistic dicks and exploiting an unrelated tragedy to further their agenda with the full knowledge that they won't actually have to lift a finger or write a cheque to help anyone because the hurdle to receive their help is too high.
I'm more convinced that they are utterly out of touch with the economical realities of the poor people. Hanlon's razor.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Canadian Mojo on February 16, 2016, 11:34:13 am
PETA, as usual, are just being opportunistic dicks and exploiting an unrelated tragedy to further their agenda with the full knowledge that they won't actually have to lift a finger or write a cheque to help anyone because the hurdle to receive their help is too high.
I'm more convinced that they are utterly out of touch with the economical realities of the poor people. Hanlon's razor.

When the bulk of their publicity campaigns seem to center around shock and anger the public for the sake of raising awareness of the cause, and they have a demonstrated history of genocidal levels of callousness (notably in regards to the animals they are 'protecting') I'm not so sure it's a simple case of Hanlon's razor.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 18, 2016, 09:43:16 pm
PETA, as usual, are just being opportunistic dicks and exploiting an unrelated tragedy to further their agenda with the full knowledge that they won't actually have to lift a finger or write a cheque to help anyone because the hurdle to receive their help is too high.
I'm more convinced that they are utterly out of touch with the economical realities of the poor people. Hanlon's razor.

When the bulk of their publicity campaigns seem to center around shock and anger the public for the sake of raising awareness of the cause, and they have a demonstrated history of genocidal levels of callousness (notably in regards to the animals they are 'protecting') I'm not so sure it's a simple case of Hanlon's razor.

Yeah, when you compare pork farms to extermination camps, it's hard to brush it off as not knowing any better.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on February 25, 2016, 04:50:46 am
(http://i.imgur.com/r28oRDD.jpg)

Just for the record: He got thrown out of the event because... Actually I'm not sure, the article that provided the picture does not mention a reason. Anyway, good sign.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/25/upshot/measuring-donald-trumps-supporters-for-intolerance.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on February 25, 2016, 06:43:19 am
Just for the record: He got thrown out of the event because...
Working heart, brain and/or spine?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on February 25, 2016, 06:56:38 am
Just for the record: He got thrown out of the event because...
Working heart, brain and/or spine?
I suppose it is possible that he blocked a fire exit tackled people to the ground and tried to strangle someone with his underwear but it is also possible that simply not supporting hatred was a reason enough to get rid of him. It would of course be immature to assume the worst out of people like Trump without having enough evidence to support these claims...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: mellenORL on February 25, 2016, 09:33:11 am
All the recent war vets I've encountered IRL and online came out of Iraq and Afghanistan with pretty high regard and concern for the well being of the civilians they met over there. Immersion in the cultures had the usual result of "Yeah, they're mostly all good people, just like back home."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: rookie on February 25, 2016, 12:13:25 pm
The Iraqis I talked to fairly regularly were.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 28, 2016, 09:16:06 pm
(http://assets.realnews.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/395940_842169154111_1010664_37712606_1688554057_n11.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 14, 2016, 04:09:18 pm
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/21/02/2EA6785000000578-0-image-a-9_1448072000676.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 06, 2016, 11:41:39 pm
(http://i.cbc.ca/1.3415270.1453475520!/cpImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_620/flint-water.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lady Evil on April 18, 2016, 12:37:57 pm
I think some of these have already been posted here, but there's some LOL's here and there.

http://runt-of-the-web.com/funny-protest-signs?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=rpages1_5651&utm_term=784d0e131232649234ed07cfef94344d9af88f6294ad8bf2173d00badb3b77ce
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 23, 2016, 10:02:48 am
(http://oi66.tinypic.com/2hdxk6d.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on July 08, 2016, 06:13:59 pm
Necro, but this deserves it:

(https://qzprod.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/screen-shot-2016-07-08-at-1-47-05-am.png?w=636)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on October 12, 2016, 11:28:14 pm
More necro:

Seen at a Trump rally. The woman, Anna Lehane, is eighteen years old.

(http://assets.teenvogue.com/photos/57fd3fd5d8bbc3046374b817/3:2/w_544,c_limit/trump-rally-t-shirt.png)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on December 02, 2016, 08:01:43 pm
(https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp-content/uploads/sites/44/2016/11/cropped-1024x576.jpg&w=480)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Skybison on December 28, 2016, 11:45:22 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0bWCptXAAA5eME.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on January 07, 2017, 06:52:19 pm
(http://blogs.cfr.org/zenko/files/2017/01/BombsDropped16.png)

That's over seventy bombs per day. Hey, Norway, can you revoke Obama's Peace Prize?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lana Reverse on January 21, 2017, 12:47:27 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/csa2n1c.png)

I fully support educating people about consent, but "teach men not to rape" is wrongheaded and counterproductive.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The_Queen on January 21, 2017, 01:12:27 pm
I've gotta get to work but just a quick MOD action:

And for the rest of you:

(http://i.imgur.com/rVQQyUV.jpg)

Enough with the joke, the jury is still out whether Lana is just UP dogding ban again but focus on the debate rather than the person.

Gah, I can't take this anymore. This is too hard.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The_Queen on January 23, 2017, 05:28:12 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XdfiN-xDiA

Richard Spencer, what a cuck.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: davedan on January 23, 2017, 06:14:38 pm
I am really torn by the Nazi getting punched in the face. My position on violence has fluctuated over the years and generally I am against it but I can't help the visceral humour I find in seeing that Nazi cuck punched. There are videos of him getting punched to various songs including Hollaback Girl, Won't get fooled again and Ode to joy.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The_Queen on January 23, 2017, 06:23:37 pm
I am really torn by the Nazi getting punched in the face. My position on violence has fluctuated over the years and generally I am against it but I can't help the visceral humour I find in seeing that Nazi cuck punched. There are videos of him getting punched to various songs including Hollaback Girl, Won't get fooled again and Ode to joy.

I agree, but I think we can reject violence in general while using this as an opportunity to mock and shun Spencer. Thing is, there is a trend of radicalization among white men (Not All Men) and it is due to young people not really knowing their way in the world. Along comes a punk-bitch like Richard Spencer, touting strong man politics and white nationalism, and they follow him because they're lost in the world and they think he has answers. The best way to nip the nazi problem in the bud is to ridicule and shun Spencer to dissuade those who would follow him or lend credence to his bullshit, but the media won't do that (Society Calling Someone A Wanker Is Not Censorship Under The First Amendment). So, I'll laugh at him being punched in the face and slinking off. Spencer's biggest fear is becoming a meme because among his followers who value white nationalism and strong man politics, he'll lose all respect (and be a "cuck"); I want to help him become a meme.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on January 23, 2017, 07:00:02 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/csa2n1c.png)

I fully support educating people about consent, but "teach men not to rape" is wrongheaded and counterproductive.
Quote
1. Falsely assumes that every man is a rapist
unless taught otherwise.
Er, how?
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2. Teaches people not to defend themselves
from predators.
How does it do this again?
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Forces male rape victims to be "taught" not
to rape.
HTELF? (How The Ever Loving Fuck)
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4. Erases female rapists and abusers.
How does "Steve don't rape" = "Suzie, rape away"?
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5. Assumes that rapists will change when
they're reminded it's illegal to rape, which
they already know.
Uh huh. (http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/vio.2014.0022?journalCode=vio)
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6. Blames all men for rape.
How?
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7. Enforces an idea of paranoia and hysteria
in women.
The idea of teaching dudes to respect boundaries makes women more prone to paranoia, OK!
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8. Teaches women to look down upon men.
HOW MOTHERFUCKER, EXPLAIN YOURSELF. FU. CK. ING. HOW???!!!

Who penned that pile of explosive gastro-inspired diarrhea, Trump's press secretary?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on January 23, 2017, 07:05:27 pm
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Richard Spencer, what a cuck.

Nope, nope, nope. Don't use violence, even against scum like Spencer. Because when you do, you a) put yourself on the wrong side of the law, b) beget violence in return, and c) are admitting that you can't win an argument with him on the merits and have to resort to violence to shut him up. And you a) want to be on the right side of the law, b) don't want them committing violence against you and your supporters, and c) can defeat Spencer or any of his asshole cronies in an argument on the merits.

And anyway, what if you reverse the roles and it's someone you respect being belted by a neo-Nazi? Are you going to laugh at it then? No? Then why are you laughing at it now?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 23, 2017, 07:17:06 pm
Because its a neo-Nazi...?  Seriously this isn't like hitting a Republican, its hitting a person that, if they either had the balls or opportunity, would happily become a bonafide, active domestic terrorist.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on January 23, 2017, 07:23:16 pm
Because its a neo-Nazi...?  Seriously this isn't like hitting a Republican, its hitting a person that, if they either had the balls or opportunity, would happily become a bonafide, active domestic terrorist.

I'm against hitting anyone for the three reasons I mentioned.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The_Queen on January 23, 2017, 07:29:46 pm
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Richard Spencer, what a cuck.

Nope, nope, nope. Don't use violence, even against scum like Spencer. Because when you do, you a) put yourself on the wrong side of the law, b) beget violence in return, and c) are admitting that you can't win an argument with him on the merits and have to resort to violence to shut him up. And you a) want to be on the right side of the law, b) don't want them committing violence against you and your supporters, and c) can defeat Spencer or any of his asshole cronies in an argument on the merits.

And anyway, what if you reverse the roles and it's someone you respect being belted by a neo-Nazi? Are you going to laugh at it then? No? Then why are you laughing at it now?

What Ravy said. Plus, go back over what I said. I specifically said that I do not condone violence, but why waste a golden opportunity to ridicule Spencer in front of his followers and potential followers? Authoritarians do not stop being authoritarians because of facts or reasoning (see: 2016 Presidential elections). However, authoritarians really like to give off the appearance of being normal and like everyone else. Therefore, when authoritarian views (like Spencer's) are ridiculed, shunned, and dismissed, or when he is made to look like a fool, then it dissuades those would may otherwise be inclined to give credence to his nazi-propaganda. So, while I do not condone that violence, I will happily laugh and contribute to making him a meme.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on January 23, 2017, 07:52:15 pm
Quote
Richard Spencer, what a cuck.

Nope, nope, nope. Don't use violence, even against scum like Spencer. Because when you do, you a) put yourself on the wrong side of the law, b) beget violence in return, and c) are admitting that you can't win an argument with him on the merits and have to resort to violence to shut him up. And you a) want to be on the right side of the law, b) don't want them committing violence against you and your supporters, and c) can defeat Spencer or any of his asshole cronies in an argument on the merits.

And anyway, what if you reverse the roles and it's someone you respect being belted by a neo-Nazi? Are you going to laugh at it then? No? Then why are you laughing at it now?

What Ravy said. Plus, go back over what I said. I specifically said that I do not condone violence, but why waste a golden opportunity to ridicule Spencer in front of his followers and potential followers? Authoritarians do not stop being authoritarians because of facts or reasoning (see: 2016 Presidential elections). However, authoritarians really like to give off the appearance of being normal and like everyone else. Therefore, when authoritarian views (like Spencer's) are ridiculed, shunned, and dismissed, or when he is made to look like a fool, then it dissuades those would may otherwise be inclined to give credence to his nazi-propaganda. So, while I do not condone that violence, I will happily laugh and contribute to making him a meme.

Well, as you said, authoritarians don't stop being authoritarians just because of facts or reason; why would they stop because of violence? They'd gladly be violent given the excuse and opportunity, and the former was just presented to them on a platter. Being violent toward them creates public sympathy for them. The aim in ridiculing them with facts and reason isn't to turn their supporters against them, it's to keep anyone else from turning toward them. Being violent, and disseminating the images of that violence, creates sympathy, as I said, and thus is liable to turn people toward them and away from your arguments.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Even Then on January 23, 2017, 09:02:54 pm
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are admitting that you can't win an argument with him on the merits and have to resort to violence to shut him up.

Argument is not an entitlement, it is a privilege. To grant that privilege to white nationalism is to legitimize it as a political position, when an ideology that's predicated on the inherent inhumanity of people based solely on their ethnicity doesn't deserve that sense of legitimacy in the public sphere or that respect on a more interpersonal level.

Anyway, while on a higher ideal level I recognize that violence is not a constructive and ethical form of conflict resolution, on a personal level I'm happy that a bad thing happened to a bad person. That's one of the closest things to a loving God in this world, really.

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And anyway, what if you reverse the roles and it's someone you respect being belted by a neo-Nazi?

That someone would probably not be beaten for being a scumbag, given that the beater's a Neo-Nazi, so no, I wouldn't be happy about that. Context matters.

And authoritarians have never not been violent. Don't act like they were just having tea parties, seething about how they've just got no way of terrorizing and beating degenerates, before this one guy freed them from their shackles.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Murdin on January 23, 2017, 09:25:35 pm
I... guess I can understand the schadenfreude expressed towards a present-day Nazi leader being elbowed in the face, but as far as I'm concerned, it's completely drowned in the horror of its full implications. I don't necessarily think this is a bad thing. That kind of thing isn't supposed to feel good, ever.

In an ideal world, the perpetrator should be jailed and fine for this physical assault. Since we do not live in an ideal world, I'm primarily worried about his personal safety and that of his loved ones.

c) can defeat Spencer or any of his asshole cronies in an argument on the merits.

I would really like you elaborate on that point, and how it applies to "assholes" (?!?) who openly advocate for murder, in this case genocidal mass murder. Perhaps on a separate thread. To be honest, none of the arguments you already brought up mesh very well with my understanding of human nature, especially as it applies to the current political and social context.

Just to be clear, I do think your two other points have a lot of merit. Civil disobedience, violent or not, is a risky strategy that carries a heavy human cost. Meanwhile, Nazis are still human beings. Most of them probably just want to go through their lives, "civilly" pushing their murderous agenda without being forced to "declare war" on society (... yes, I'm fully aware of the irony). It would be understandable for them to interpret the aggression as a call to arms, which may eventually lead to serial escalation.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on January 23, 2017, 09:57:30 pm
1. Unfortunately, white nationalism has, in the US, been legitimized already. The Overton window has shifted. The aim of argument is to delegitimize it.

2. Authoritarians are violent, but by punching Richard Spencer, they no longer have to invent fig leaves of justification for their violence. They have a real grievance to which they can point and say, "See? They're the violent ones! We're just defending ourselves!" Never make your opponent the victim, especially when they're already predisposed to violence.

3. See point 1. Mock their nonsense, ridicule their insanity, shoot down all their bullshit, and shift the Overton window so that their odious views are outside it again. Punching them doesn't accomplish any of that, and instead allows them to make themselves look morally equivalent, if not superior, to you.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on January 24, 2017, 12:34:11 am
1. Unfortunately, white nationalism has, in the US, been legitimized already. The Overton window has shifted. The aim of argument is to delegitimize it.

2. Authoritarians are violent, but by punching Richard Spencer, they no longer have to invent fig leaves of justification for their violence. They have a real grievance to which they can point and say, "See? They're the violent ones! We're just defending ourselves!" Never make your opponent the victim, especially when they're already predisposed to violence.

3. See point 1. Mock their nonsense, ridicule their insanity, shoot down all their bullshit, and shift the Overton window so that their odious views are outside it again. Punching them doesn't accomplish any of that, and instead allows them to make themselves look morally equivalent, if not superior, to you.


+1

I oppose unnecessary violence and this was not a situation that required violence.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The_Queen on January 24, 2017, 12:51:11 am
1. Unfortunately, white nationalism has, in the US, been legitimized already. The Overton window has shifted. The aim of argument is to delegitimize it.

2. Authoritarians are violent, but by punching Richard Spencer, they no longer have to invent fig leaves of justification for their violence. They have a real grievance to which they can point and say, "See? They're the violent ones! We're just defending ourselves!" Never make your opponent the victim, especially when they're already predisposed to violence.

3. See point 1. Mock their nonsense, ridicule their insanity, shoot down all their bullshit, and shift the Overton window so that their odious views are outside it again. Punching them doesn't accomplish any of that, and instead allows them to make themselves look morally equivalent, if not superior, to you.


+1

I oppose unnecessary violence and this was not a situation that required violence.

To clarify, I think we can say violence is bad, while making fun of him in every way possible to delegitimize him in front of followers and potential followers. Using this instance (which we did not wish for, but fell into our hands), and making a meme out of it, is simply a way to humiliate him and make him look weak in front of people who may be inclined to follow him.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on January 24, 2017, 12:56:20 am
1. Unfortunately, white nationalism has, in the US, been legitimized already. The Overton window has shifted. The aim of argument is to delegitimize it.

2. Authoritarians are violent, but by punching Richard Spencer, they no longer have to invent fig leaves of justification for their violence. They have a real grievance to which they can point and say, "See? They're the violent ones! We're just defending ourselves!" Never make your opponent the victim, especially when they're already predisposed to violence.

3. See point 1. Mock their nonsense, ridicule their insanity, shoot down all their bullshit, and shift the Overton window so that their odious views are outside it again. Punching them doesn't accomplish any of that, and instead allows them to make themselves look morally equivalent, if not superior, to you.


+1

I oppose unnecessary violence and this was not a situation that required violence.

To clarify, I think we can say violence is bad, while making fun of him in every way possible to delegitimize him in front of followers and potential followers. Using this instance (which we did not wish for, but fell into our hands), and making a meme out of it, is simply a way to humiliate him and make him look weak in front of people who may be inclined to follow him.

Or it creates sympathy for him and makes us look like the bad guys for cheering assault--and I hope that whoever it was who punched Richard Spencer is charged and prosecuted. I'd rather humiliate him--and his movement--in ways that do not involve blatantly illegal acts.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: The_Queen on January 24, 2017, 01:15:52 am
1. Unfortunately, white nationalism has, in the US, been legitimized already. The Overton window has shifted. The aim of argument is to delegitimize it.

2. Authoritarians are violent, but by punching Richard Spencer, they no longer have to invent fig leaves of justification for their violence. They have a real grievance to which they can point and say, "See? They're the violent ones! We're just defending ourselves!" Never make your opponent the victim, especially when they're already predisposed to violence.

3. See point 1. Mock their nonsense, ridicule their insanity, shoot down all their bullshit, and shift the Overton window so that their odious views are outside it again. Punching them doesn't accomplish any of that, and instead allows them to make themselves look morally equivalent, if not superior, to you.


+1

I oppose unnecessary violence and this was not a situation that required violence.

To clarify, I think we can say violence is bad, while making fun of him in every way possible to delegitimize him in front of followers and potential followers. Using this instance (which we did not wish for, but fell into our hands), and making a meme out of it, is simply a way to humiliate him and make him look weak in front of people who may be inclined to follow him.

Or it creates sympathy for him and makes us look like the bad guys for cheering assault--and I hope that whoever it was who punched Richard Spencer is charged and prosecuted. I'd rather humiliate him--and his movement--in ways that do not involve blatantly illegal acts.

Yeah, read The Authoritarians. They don't sympathize well, and they really look for a strong guy to say "Look at me, I'm loud and strong." I lurked on some alt-right sites, and they're tearing into him pretty hard for not Ramboing out on the assailant.

But yes, I agree that the assailant ought be prosecuted.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on January 24, 2017, 01:25:22 am
1. Unfortunately, white nationalism has, in the US, been legitimized already. The Overton window has shifted. The aim of argument is to delegitimize it.

2. Authoritarians are violent, but by punching Richard Spencer, they no longer have to invent fig leaves of justification for their violence. They have a real grievance to which they can point and say, "See? They're the violent ones! We're just defending ourselves!" Never make your opponent the victim, especially when they're already predisposed to violence.

3. See point 1. Mock their nonsense, ridicule their insanity, shoot down all their bullshit, and shift the Overton window so that their odious views are outside it again. Punching them doesn't accomplish any of that, and instead allows them to make themselves look morally equivalent, if not superior, to you.


+1

I oppose unnecessary violence and this was not a situation that required violence.

To clarify, I think we can say violence is bad, while making fun of him in every way possible to delegitimize him in front of followers and potential followers. Using this instance (which we did not wish for, but fell into our hands), and making a meme out of it, is simply a way to humiliate him and make him look weak in front of people who may be inclined to follow him.

Or it creates sympathy for him and makes us look like the bad guys for cheering assault--and I hope that whoever it was who punched Richard Spencer is charged and prosecuted. I'd rather humiliate him--and his movement--in ways that do not involve blatantly illegal acts.

Yeah, read The Authoritarians. They don't sympathize well, and they really look for a strong guy to say "Look at me, I'm loud and strong." I lurked on some alt-right sites, and they're tearing into him pretty hard for not Ramboing out on the assailant.

But yes, I agree that the assailant ought be prosecuted.

I'm not talking about sympathy from his own followers. Whether they follow him or someone else their views are every bit as odious as his.

I'm talking about sympathy from people who aren't as adamantly opposed to what Spencer and his ilk represent and profess. I don't want to risk generating that.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Skybison on January 24, 2017, 01:49:38 am
Meh, I agree with what's being said about non-violence being a better tactic then violence, but I doubt that one guy getting punched once will make any difference in making people sympathize with Nazi's. 

If it starts to become a regular occurrence that's different, but if it's just a one off I think there's some molehill mountaineering going on online.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on January 24, 2017, 04:27:42 am
I always liked this image.

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1501151.1383140005!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/keshia-thomas.jpg)

The African American lady who stepped in to protect the Nazi from the angry protesters who wanted to put the boot into him. I know it's not current but it has more moral authority than the video of the bloke who sucker punched Spencer.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Murdin on January 24, 2017, 04:51:13 am
So, the only thing that can be done against the rise of Nazism is... to ridicule them, flaunt our moral higher ground, display our own superior Rationality, and hope really really hard that this will move the Overton window away from them.

In other words, we should promote the kind of douchey detached self-righteous attitude towards authoritarianism that worked oh so well in the recent past.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised, since the very idea behind FSTDT epitomizes "educated liberal" smugness to an almost caricatural extent. Don't get me wrong, back at the height of its notoriety during the Bush-era heydays of religious conservatism, this attitude used to be in tune with the rising tide of public opinion, most particularly among the mob of primarily nerdy young white males that is Internet culture.

I'm not sure the same can be said today. I would even so as far as to say that the pendulum has flung far to the other side, with our nerd-cred intellectual-superiority rhetorical mojo being stolen reclaimed first by vacuous Internet personalities such as Amazing Atheist or Thunderf00t, then by a topical variety of reactionary hate mobs, before finally condensing between the hands of literal fascists.

Yes, I'm going there. As far as I am concerned, the alt-right is nothing more than a dark, twisted mockery of the decaying "rationalist" community, of the very kind of smug self-satisfied assholes that we used to be... and, to a large extent, still are.

Once again, I agree with the points made against the use of violence. What I cannot condone is the idea that the "solutions" offered here are nothing more than feel-good cop-outs. We just need to act like how we have always acted, everything will turn out just fine, and even if it doesn't, well, we will have a ready-made excuse about it. We tried. We fought against the rise of murderous ideologies by pointing and laughing at them from our imaginary ivory towers, but this time, somehow, it didn't work. It was obviously the most rational course of action at the time, because Reason, and reasons.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on January 24, 2017, 08:01:55 am
There are situations that call for.violence. Spencer's vile beliefs alone aren't one of them.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 24, 2017, 08:26:56 am
Dayum, murdin.  Yeah, folks seem to forget the "action" part of "political action."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: LeTipex on January 24, 2017, 04:45:52 pm
There are situations that call for.violence. Spencer's vile beliefs alone aren't one of them.
I'm not saying I disagree with you... but when is the right time to get violent towards neo-nazis?

When they speak out in public? Apparently not.
When they have a rally? Apparently not?
When they're campaigning? That'd undermine democracy...
When they're in power? Too late...

Fascism is unlike other ideology. It abuses the freedom given to us by democracy, turns it over on its head to argue against it, and once it wins, takes it away from its oponents. So far in history, every fascist government has come to power by being elected... and none of them have relinquished that power without a war or violent action.

Punching someone for their opinions is a bad thing to do, true. But so is giving facists and neo-nazis the "benefit of the doubt" and letting them take a place in public discourse. Arguments do not work against those who see intelectuals and free thinkers as the ennemy, and if violence towards them is always illegitimate, and if the law doesn't make a difference between them and others... then there is no way to act against them until they have power and we're forced to go to war.

I would rather not have it go there. So in a situation where holocaust denial, hate speech and outright calls to genocide (thinly veiled tho they might be) are protected by the law as "free speech", then violence seems to me, if not completely acceptable, then at least like not so much of a bad move.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on January 24, 2017, 05:38:35 pm
I get that, and that's Antifa's beliefs in a nutshell. It's also the reason why the press gets to lazily fall back on false balance "both sides" crap everytime Antifa gets involved.
Whatever you do, or don't do there'll be consequences.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: LeTipex on January 24, 2017, 06:49:52 pm
At least we agree that there's no easy answer here, I guess...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on January 24, 2017, 11:12:40 pm
At least we agree that there's no easy answer here, I guess...
I think we can all agree Shia LaBeouf's shuttdown of this little Nazi twerp was awesome to the infinite power. And he didn't even have to use his fists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7j2WnAw_kA

But you're right. Nazi's are looking annoyingly more nerdy these days. I blame the internet nontroversy that shall not be named.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lana Reverse on January 24, 2017, 11:30:55 pm
I think the best course of action is to stand up to these types, but don't get violent unless they start.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: pyro on January 25, 2017, 12:25:28 am
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I guess I shouldn't be surprised, since the very idea behind FSTDT epitomizes "educated liberal" smugness to an almost caricatural extent. Don't get me wrong, back at the height of its notoriety during the Bush-era heydays of religious conservatism, this attitude used to be in tune with the rising tide of public opinion, most particularly among the mob of primarily nerdy young white males that is Internet culture.

I'm not sure the same can be said today. I would even so as far as to say that the pendulum has flung far to the other side, with our nerd-cred intellectual-superiority rhetorical mojo being stolen reclaimed first by vacuous Internet personalities such as Amazing Atheist or Thunderf00t, then by a topical variety of reactionary hate mobs, before finally condensing between the hands of literal fascists.

Yes, I'm going there. As far as I am concerned, the alt-right is nothing more than a dark, twisted mockery of the decaying "rationalist" community, of the very kind of smug self-satisfied assholes that we used to be... and, to a large extent, still are.

Of course. More specifically, though, it basically grew out of /pol/, who modeled it after a mixture of /b/ and LessWrong. FSTDT is also closely related to LW, and other mockery sites like NotAlwaysRight.

I'm not sure where you get the idea that the leftiesphere has gotten less smug over the years, though. The most you can say is that it's less influential. Still pretty self-satisfied.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on January 25, 2017, 01:01:46 am
LeTipex, replace neo-Nazi with a commie in your rant and think about it. And then try replacing it with a Muslim or Jew and think some more.


In any case, I only promote necessary violence and someone talking in public is not an appropriate reason to punch them. You say that this will let the Neo-Nazis do whatever they wish? No, it just means that you don't go around assaulting people just because you don't like their politics. You also seem to assume that they are some kind of hypnotists who, if allowed to speak, can bring people to support them and the only way to stop them is violence. This is wrong, as political agitators they have no special magic and promoting non-nazi ideologies and politics is just as powerful.

(And even despite the electoral college and gerrymandering, I doubt that neo-nazis can get majority in US politics. The Republicans can and will take in Neo-Nazi voters but current presidential picks excluded they are doing Republican politics, not Neo-Nazi politics.)

Also, I think that the government should hold monopoly on violence (with the exception of self defense being allowable) so I also think that the authorities are the ones who should shut down neo-nazis the moment they break the laws. (It's easier in Finland in theory because promoting violent revolution is illegal and Nazis are doing exactly that. In practise there are people in police with Nazi sympathies but even so the wheels of the justice are turning.)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on January 25, 2017, 01:34:32 am
I think the best course of action is to stand up to these types, but don't get violent unless they start.
Lana, for once I agree with you 100%.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on January 25, 2017, 03:54:40 am
Here's something I wish to point out and you can quote me on it. In fact, I would prefer if you would quote me or at least write the same sentiment with much better wording onto your Facebook or Twitter or whatever, because this is important:

The best way to defeat the Neo-Nazis and other Trump cronies is to point out that they don't want the truth. They are not playing the Devil's advocate when they come in and say "...but have you considered X?" or "what if they are using the academical meaning of Cultural Marxist?" They are just trying to take control of the debate and then shut down the opposition by any means necessary.

We can see this from the very first actions that Trump has gained power and really gained the ability to control the debates and press conferences. His cronies lie and when someone calls them on their lies they threaten the media to shut up or call in their fake-media cronies and talk to them so that they can avoid defending their bullshit. We saw that Trump shut down the government participation on the climate change debate. Note: He did not go "let's listen to the other side of the debate as well" he just shut it down. They know that they are wrong, they know that they can not prove themselves to be correct, they just want to "win." There are no facts that would prove climate change to be false so instead they try to prevent people from finding out the facts. As long as the GOP was in opposition they would try to grab any and all possible data to try and find something that would... Well they knew that it would not prove them to be correct but they were trying to split hairs and simply keep the debate going as long as possible so that the other side would not be declared as the winner.

...And now that they control the debate they are shutting it down so that they can simply claim that they won.

And this isn't the only evidence of this. The White house websites now lie about crime in USA being on the rise because that's beneficial to Trump's claims about "inner cities" being post-apocalyptic wastelands with [insert alt-term for blacks which is used merely because they can't say nigger on TV] thugs roaming around and killing people. And notice that they didn't ask for a debate on whether or not abortion is right or wrong, they just signed papers to make it harder or impossible to get an abortion and refused any and all debates about it. They didn't wait for anyone to say that they feel "morally or religiously obligated to provide abortion for women in need" and there is no clause to allow for such exeptions.


So the next time that someone claims that "leftists" are the ones who result to violence because they can't defend their beliefs in an intellectual debate remind them that Trump isn't giving anyone a chance to debate.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Even Then on January 25, 2017, 08:16:48 am
Quote from: Askold
promoting non-nazi ideologies and politics is just as powerful

Yeah, that's why the Third Reich was dissolved when German citizens and other national leaders came up and said "what if freedom is, like, good". And that's why an Islamophobe who appointed a virulent homophobe as his running mate got laughed out of the US presidential campaign. That's why the foreign affairs minister of Finland became someone reasonable instead of an avowed bigot like Soini.

Oh wait. None of these things happened.

Also replacing "Neo-Nazi" in LeTipex' message with "Muslim" and "Jewish person" is a flagrantly stupid false equivalency because "Muslim" and "Jewish person" (and for that matter, "Communist") aren't ideologies that are inherently predicated on hatred and dehumanization of people solely on the basis of their inherent traits.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on January 25, 2017, 08:50:37 am
a) Whether or not you can defeat Nazis in elections will be see when the next one comes. Besides, the real, Nazis got a lesser percentage of votes than  Trump did and just because people didn't use legal means to stop them when they usurped power doesn't mean that we have to let themget away with it this time as well.

b) Awful lot of people think that Jews, Muslims and communists do just what you said about the Nazis and use it as justification for inciting violence. But I for one still  think that the authorities and justice should handle the Nazi punching, not vigilantees and mobs. Campaign against Nazis, vote, protest and boycott but unless it is in self defence don't go around punching people.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: LeTipex on January 25, 2017, 09:23:40 am
Even Then pointed out the false equivalency before I could. Thank you for that btw.

Oh, and Askold, what "a lot of people think" about the goals of Jews, Muslims and what not is completely irrelevant. What matters is the group that *actually* has those goals, and whether democracies can handle giving the same protection to those whose avowed goal is to dismantle them.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Even Then on January 25, 2017, 09:28:30 am
My point was that the statement "promoting non-nazi ideologies and politics is just as powerful (as public nazism)" is demonstrably false.

And here's the difference: Nazism and Judaism aren't nearly on the same level of "how easy is it to frame this as harmful" when Nazism is inherently built around harming and repressing people for existing wrong. This whole public perception slippery slope thing relies heavily on people being terminal paint-huffers who can't tell the difference between an ideology predicated on hypernationalism and institutional bigotry, and an ethnoreligious group that... isn't. And is in fact a primary victim of the aforementioned group's hatred for existing.

Let's put it this way. Let's say that someone instead punched a guy who's gone on record to say he wants to rape kids when he espoused the virtues of diddlin' while interviewed for the news. Would alternate Askold hand-wring about how it's wrong to punch that guy and people like him because, if you do that, then people will start punching children for existing and drawing justifications out of their asses for it?

But sure, let the authorities handle nazi punching. They won't go to jail for it.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Murdin on January 25, 2017, 09:53:00 am
LeTipex, replace neo-Nazi with a commie in your rant and think about it. And then try replacing it with a Muslim or Jew and think some more.

... what?

First, comparing Nazis with adherents to a certain religion is... to put it fucking lightly... a false equivalence. An incredibly widespread, noxious and identifiable false equivalence that I frankly didn't expect you to use so frivolously. I know that Even Then already brought up the subject, but I started writing my reply before he posted his. Besides, I am taking your answer as a massive goalpost shift from "this is morally wrong because the exact same could be said about innocent groups" to "we should avoid this strategy because it legitimizes those who use it against innocent groups under false pretenses". So, yeah, correct me if I am wrong, but I feel it bears repeating, and in any case, I really hope I don't need to elaborate on that.

Second, while the comparison with "commies" is certainly more defensible, I'm starting to wonder if we are really talking about the same "neo-Nazis" here. In fact, a lot of disagreements and incomprehensions on the subject seem to be stemming from this confusion, so let's do away with the "neo" prefixes and talk, very broadly, about small-f fascism and capital-N Nazism in Trump's America. Spencer is a Nazi ; not only does he adhere to a fascist worldview, he is a white nationalist who openly advocates for genocide, segregation, and mass deportation of citizens, particularly along racial lines. Meanwhile, demagogues like Bannon or Yiannopoulos represent a more garden-variety brand of fascism that certainly likes to flirt with these subjects (muh political correctness), but ultimately shy away from endorsing them as long as they remain too unpopular. There is a lot that could be said about the connections between the two, but I won't elaborate on that. To borrow your comparison, it's a bit like the distinction between your average Marxist-Leninist in semi-denial about the historical failings of his ideology, and a self-aware Tankie who would happily repeat them. Or between the Religious Right and outright theocratic dominionism, though it does not follow that Trump is "basically like Bush".

Third, to back up my previous points, replace neo-Nazi with Sharia-enforcing islamist fanatics, and all of a sudden LeTipex's message seems incredibly tame, even for a leftist. Some would even say it borders on apologism in its reticence towards tracking those who privately hold jihadist beliefs. Before getting on our high horses about the way we must deal with those poor misguided souls that ~look and act so much like us~ maybe we should consider the way we treat and think about the socially-acceptable exotic bogeymen du jour.

I'm not trying to single out Askold or score a rhetorical point against him here, he's not my "opponent" in some make-believe word-fight, this shit is actually serious. Everyone should spend some time to think about their moral standards, where they lay regarding obedience to legal authority, the use of violence to fight against oppressive ideologies, and whether those standards apply differently to people further from you in terms of race, culture, nationality, monkeysphere, and so on. I don't expect everyone to come to the same conclusions as me, but that's very much not the point.

Of course. More specifically, though, it basically grew out of /pol/, who modeled it after a mixture of /b/ and LessWrong. FSTDT is also closely related to LW, and other mockery sites like NotAlwaysRight.

I'm not sure where you get the idea that the leftiesphere has gotten less smug over the years, though. The most you can say is that it's less influential. Still pretty self-satisfied.

Yup, my point was mainly focused on mainstream instances of this evolution, but /pol/ is/was clearly part of the avant-garde, along with other supposedly "trollbait" boards.

Meanwhile, FSTDT and LessWrong are more like... products of their time, which is kind of ironic considering LWers' delusions of prophethood. Between this slow slide into irrelevance and a repeated pattern of dramatic splits driven by egotistical figureheads erecting each other - and incidentally themselves - into strawmen, most people left the scene altogether. Those communities left behind were condemned to either be subsumed into a more fashionable school or thought (with varying levels of denial), or become the white dwarfs of the Internet, brooding about the divides of the past and shifting most of the blame for their own shortcomings on a convenient scapegoat (*cough*SJW*cough*) while slowly cooling off into complete lifelessness.

Though I may have heard about some people doing so in a desperate attempt to determine what went wrong with their own train of thought and how to fix it, so there's that.

EDIT: I'm gonna be honest, except for a brief stint of blame-the-SJWs-not-us following the elections, it really seems to me that FQA mostly got over its "bitterly reminisce about past infighting and target low-hanging fruit to distract from real threats and own increasing irrelevance and powerlessness against them" phase. I mean, there's even talks about merging back the The Website Formerly Known as Mainpage. Maybe we're already closing on the black dwarf stage, and it's not quite as barren and dreary as I thought it to be?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Canadian Mojo on January 25, 2017, 12:37:34 pm
Let's abandon ideology for a moment and focus on the practical. Violence is fraught with complications and risks; for that reason alone it should be used sparingly and with caution. The thing is, it works, so you can't discount it.

So the question becomes is this guy worth it? Perhaps a punch in the face to emasculate him in the eyes of his followers and eliminate the threat he represents is worth the potential blow-back. I don't know the answer to that question. I do know that this is a game being played by powerful forces and the unfortunately the 'Left' isn't powerful enough to play with one hand tied behind it's back and have any chance of winning. I also know the unfortunately know the reality of what happens to 'he who fights monsters.'
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on January 25, 2017, 01:24:36 pm
I will write more after work but I just want you all to know that

a) I still stand by my ridiculously high standards of when I will support violence.

b) Trump just crossed that line by saying that he is going to bring back torture and illegal CIA prisons.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Murdin on January 25, 2017, 01:43:05 pm
I will write more after work but I just want you all to know that

a) I still stand by my ridiculously high standards of when I will support violence.

b) Trump just crossed that line by saying that he is going to bring back torture and illegal CIA prisons.

My issue was with your argument, not with your standpoint against violence. I see how my message could make you think otherwise, and if you did, I'm sorry.

To get back on purely factual matters, though, it should be noted that Obama either failed or decided not to get rid off alternative enhanced interrogation and Gitmo, and that Trump actually campaigned in favor of these things. His recent declaration doesn't really come as a surprise.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: pyro on January 25, 2017, 01:45:38 pm
b) Trump just crossed that line by saying that he is going to bring back torture and illegal CIA prisons.

As if they ever stopped.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on January 25, 2017, 01:53:16 pm
Obama got most of the prisoners out and didn't bring more in.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on January 25, 2017, 04:16:54 pm
Now that I'm back home...

I specifically used examples that I knew to be shocking because to me it seems like making an exception of "these people are acceptable targets and laws should not protect them" makes a nasty slippery slope and is exactly what fascists say about other groups of people.

Besides, all this talk about how there is no way to stop nazis from gaining power seems really defeatist. They won a few elections and now everyone is acting like we can never vote them out or that they will with 100% certainly refuse to relinquish power and THIS in specific is the only issue where I will fucking give them the reason of doubt. If fascists, in Finland or elsewhere, try to remain in power desbite elections/laws saying they can't or if they try to make laws that are against constitution or otherwise ...Well, fascist laws, then that is the point where a violent coup is necessary for the good of democracy but until then I am happy to merely use legal means to oppose them.

As for the pedophile example, if child molesters go to politics to try and make their horrible ways legal, then I will fight for their right to try to (in legal ways) lobby for their horrible ways while at the same time doing my best to oppose them and ridicule them in also legal ways. Though if I ever get any evidence of them doing something illegal to kids I will call the cops on them. Besides, why speak hypotethically when NAMBLA did exactly that and Jon Stewart and Daily show spent several years ridiculing them and exposing them as the pathetic and horrible people they are.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Even Then on January 25, 2017, 05:37:50 pm
Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to start punching Nazis myself (because I'm a cowardly motherfucker and I'd probably go to jail) and if I were a judge at a trial for that antifa guy I'd give him a guilty verdict for assault, because he did still punch a guy. But that's on a higher level. I wouldn't be chomping at the bit to report the guy if given the opportunity. And if someone went "I'm gonna punch a Nazi" at a bar to me, I wouldn't exactly trip over myself to stop the guy.

Well, at least out of any "but you'll only give Nazis legitimacy" reason, because what do I care about the feelings of Nazis or idiots who'd sympathize with them on the sole basis of them getting hate? But they'd probably get in trouble with the bar staff and authorities, so I'd t least try to talk their way out of them.

Now as political praxis, I admit the matter's more nuanced. Sure, institutionally legitimizing vigilante violence against certain groups opens doors to scary implications, but at the same time, nazis care shitall about democracy. Uncritically allowing them into the political mainstream will let them abuse a system they disdain and expand the Overton Window until they can pull back Hitler's soul from Hell through it, piece by piece. Adults don't do violence as constructive conflict resolution and it shouldn't be incentivized on a governmental level, but at the same time if Nazis wanna martyr themselves because they're hated for being Nazis, that's on them. They were already doing it anyway.

I don't know the right answer, is what I'm trying to say. And I don't wanna come across like I do. All I can do is have my thoughts on it and not actually have any influence of significance. But I can at least see where you're coming from.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Skybison on January 25, 2017, 05:54:52 pm
Eh, I still think it's a false equivalency.  Suppressing a religious group and punching one jerk once for his support for genocide are very different things.  And come on people, did that time Buzz Aldrin punched a moon truther in the face legitimize them?  A one off incident won't do that.

That being said I do agree with the rest of what you are saying.  Let's make one thing clear:  The Nazis Are Not In Power.

Trump isn't Hitler, or even Pinochet.  He's an empty demagogue with no genuine ideology besides his own greatness.  He used Nazi's, fascists and low level authoritarians to gain power but clearly doesn't give a fig about them.  The historical figure Trump best resembles I'd argue is Silvio Berlusconi, a corrupt asshole but hardly a genocidal maniac.  And we should look at what worked against Berlusconi when dealing with Trump.
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/30/13767174/case-for-normalizing-trump

For violence in general, political scientists have found that non-violent civil disobedience campaigns are far more likely to defeat authoritarian governments then armed insurrections.  For stopping fascist movements from gaining power, mass state repression can work if we're talking full Assad level and they goad the fascists into violence themselves, but antifa stuff is probably just going to escalate the situation.  Violence only really works if it's backed up by overwhelming force, otherwise people respond tit for tat.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Murdin on January 25, 2017, 08:11:25 pm
The slippery slope goes both ways, as they almost always do. Are murderers acceptable targets for imprisonment? What is a crime, an attempted crime, complicity in a crime, and how to punish those things in a way that isn't itself criminal? Honestly, I think we're running in circles here. Worse, I feel like you still perceive this discussion as an attack on your moral beliefs, as if people were trying to convince you to endorse violence. I can tell you that I do respect your convictions, do consider your point about public respectability to be of decisive importance, and that even though I can't speak for anyone else, I suspect most people here would tell you the same.

There's something that needs to be said about defeatism, however.

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Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on January 26, 2017, 02:35:07 am
More than the punch my beef is with the current theme of "Nazis cannot be won over with words or reasoned with they must be destroyed" theme when I have seen examples of the opposite. Xenophobia more often than not is because of lack of interaction with the "outsiders" and it is possible for them to learn not to hate indiscriminantly. The former head of Finnish Neo-Nazi movement quite literally realized one day that he was the bad guy and that he did not want to teach the same hate to his son. He broke off from the movement and stopped answering to letters from David Duke.

https://www.hate-speech.org/a-neo-nazi-leader-breaks-off/

Similarly simply by going out to the Nazis and talking to them has worked in the past and I don't see why it wouldn't do so in the future.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Murdin on January 26, 2017, 08:09:57 am
More than the punch my beef is with the current theme of "Nazis cannot be won over with words or reasoned with they must be destroyed" theme when I have seen examples of the opposite.

My beef is with people throwing moral equivalences between genocidal maniacs, and those willing to use violent or illegal means to prevent them from achieving their goals. Moral equivalences which, taken to their logical conclusions with no need for slippery slopes, loom dangerously close to nihilism. Even the state monopoly on violence ultimately rely on the idea that there is some legitimacy in fighting fire with fire.

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(EDIT) tl;dr: wonky moral posturing isn't gonna bring anyone back to their senses, it will only divide us more and more. We can and should encourage this level of patience and consideration, but we can't expect everyone to "get it" right away.

I also wanted to add something quick about winning fascists over. I want to assume this is common knowledge by now, and it was already implied in Askold's message, but I think it bears mentioning. Facts don't work, not until they have pulled their head out of the rabbit hole. Their own subjectivity is all that matters. Use your own personal experiences, but in a manner that rubs them up the right way. Feels, not reals ; there's a reason these kinds of people keep repeating the opposite.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on January 26, 2017, 10:30:34 am
I think we can just agree that we are mostly on the level (Nazis bad.) and disagree only on minor issues (when is it ok to punch nazis.)

Besides, punching a Nazi in the facec in USA is silly simply because you could always say that you "felt threatened by them and were in fear of your life" and shoot them in the face.

With a gun.

Such as those that you are allowed to bear and shoot thanks to 2nd amendment and stand your ground laws. (Try to find a lawyer who can claim that Neo-Nazis are not a threat, I dare you.)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Murdin on January 26, 2017, 10:58:15 am
No problem. I think our actual disagreement is even more limited than that, along the lines of "how to interact with people who endorse the unprovoked use of violence against Nazis". You may call this nitpicking, but I really find it a very important issue, for reasons that I already elaborated on in this thread.

Also...

Besides, punching a Nazi in the facec in USA is silly simply because you could always say that you "felt threatened by them and were in fear of your life" and shoot them in the face.

With a gun.

Such as those that you are allowed to bear and shoot thanks to 2nd amendment and stand your ground laws. (Try to find a lawyer who can claim that Neo-Nazis are not a threat, I dare you.)

I guess we can also agree that this is kinda fucked up?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on January 27, 2017, 04:09:11 am
I just posted this image on a message with a politics thread frequented by a number of conservatives:

(http://s3.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/5/3/4/595534_v2.jpg)

Pointing out that this is corporate welfare, that raising the minimum wage would eliminate this problem, and that Walmart spends a fraction of those profits on lobbying the government to keep the food stamp program going.

Hilarity to follow.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on January 27, 2017, 04:19:31 am
Yeah, that's what companies do and many governments see nothing wrong with it.

Meanwhile in Finland rent is too damn high and the tax payers are paying for welfare so that unemployed and low-earning people can afford to live inside a house and the companies and organizations that own the apartments raise the rents further because they know that the poor can always pay more as the government simply raises their benefits to keep up with the rent... This too is a system where government is simply directing tax payer money to the landlords.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: pyro on January 27, 2017, 12:30:51 pm
Pointing out that this is corporate welfare, that raising the minimum wage would eliminate this problem, and that Walmart spends a fraction of those profits on lobbying the government to keep the food stamp program going.

Hilarity to follow.

Don't raise the minimum wage. Walmart just raises the prices of everything when you do that, and it basically just causes inflation.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on January 27, 2017, 02:40:49 pm
Pointing out that this is corporate welfare, that raising the minimum wage would eliminate this problem, and that Walmart spends a fraction of those profits on lobbying the government to keep the food stamp program going.

Hilarity to follow.

Don't raise the minimum wage. Walmart just raises the prices of everything when you do that, and it basically just causes inflation.

Walmart might, but other businesses don't necessarily, which would drive consumers away from Walmart and toward other businesses, thus forcing Walmart to lower its prices to recapture those customers.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: pyro on January 27, 2017, 05:04:16 pm
Walmart might, but other businesses don't necessarily, which would drive consumers away from Walmart and toward other businesses, thus forcing Walmart to lower its prices to recapture those customers.

That's the theory. The practice is that everybody raises their prices, because everybody is already operating at a satisfactory profit margin, and they don't want it to drop.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 27, 2017, 06:08:31 pm
Ya know, there ought to be a body of people...something capable of passing laws that could prevent that.  Something that governs people and corporations alike.  Damned if I know what that'd be, though.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on January 28, 2017, 05:12:02 pm
Walmart might, but other businesses don't necessarily, which would drive consumers away from Walmart and toward other businesses, thus forcing Walmart to lower its prices to recapture those customers.

That's the theory. The practice is that everybody raises their prices, because everybody is already operating at a satisfactory profit margin, and they don't want it to drop.

Except that a unilateral decrease in prices by one retailer will lead consumers to shop there in preference to other stores, so that its volume of sales makes up for any decrease in profit on any individual sale, forcing all other retailers to drop prices to compete and recover lost customers and profits.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: pyro on January 28, 2017, 10:26:45 pm
Except that a unilateral decrease in prices by one retailer will lead consumers to shop there in preference to other stores, so that its volume of sales makes up for any decrease in profit on any individual sale,

In the short term.

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forcing all other retailers to drop prices to compete and recover lost customers and profits.

In the long term, once all the other retailers drop the prices to match yours, the result is that everyone's getting the same volume of sales at lower profit margins. Business people aren't stupid; they're already running at the profit margins they want to run at before the minimum wage hike. If they were willing to go at a lower profit margin, they would have already done so before.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Art Vandelay on January 28, 2017, 10:35:47 pm
In the long term, once all the other retailers drop the prices to match yours, the result is that everyone's getting the same volume of sales at lower profit margins. Business people aren't stupid; they're already running at the profit margins they want to run at before the minimum wage hike. If they were willing to go at a lower profit margin, they would have already done so before.
Prices do indeed rise with minimum wage increases, but not quite at the 1:1 ratio you seem to think it does. Overall, it does result in a higher share of wealth for the lower classes. History has shown that time and time again, not to mention it's why businesses fight tooth and nail against minimum wage increases. If minimum wage hikes did indeed make no difference to their profit margins, then you could raise it to six figures for all they care.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: pyro on January 28, 2017, 10:38:35 pm
then you could raise it to six figures for all they care.

Heeelllloooo Weimar-style inflation!
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on January 28, 2017, 11:10:22 pm
then you could raise it to six figures for all they care.

Heeelllloooo Weimar-style inflation!

...which is why nobody is suggesting six-figure minimum wages?

The proposal is that if you work a full-time job, you should earn enough not to require any government assistance. Not that you should be able to have four cars, three mansions and your very own movie theatre.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: davedan on January 29, 2017, 05:54:13 pm
On punching Nazis: http://thoughtsonthedead.com/on-the-propriety-of-punching-nazis-an-faq/ (http://thoughtsonthedead.com/on-the-propriety-of-punching-nazis-an-faq/)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on January 30, 2017, 07:40:37 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3dV1wIUkAAoSQD.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on January 31, 2017, 01:40:40 am
(https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/15781087_1867568270189969_4373893402169803622_n.jpg?oh=7c5d3fcd8f0d92cc7276921f145cf964&oe=590560DE)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Skybison on January 31, 2017, 03:00:44 am
On punching Nazis: http://thoughtsonthedead.com/on-the-propriety-of-punching-nazis-an-faq/ (http://thoughtsonthedead.com/on-the-propriety-of-punching-nazis-an-faq/)

I know we've moved on from this but I can't help but note that guy made some historical errors

1) The Nazi's didn't burn the Reichstag down.  The consensus among historians is that Marinus van der Lubbe burned the Reichstag on his own, the Nazi's just seized on his actions after the fact as a pretext to shut down democracy.  The idea that large scale Antifa violence could be used by Trump in a similar way is a perfectly valid concern.

2) "We" didn't stop killing Germans after world war two ended (at least depending on the definition of we).  Mass Expulsions of German Civilians from Poland. Czechoslovakia and other parts of Eastern Europe saw the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people.  Plus you've got all the unjustifiable stuff that happened during the war (bombings, Japanese internment etc).  That a mindset of "our enemies are just evil so any violence on our part is justified" can led you to do horrible things is very well supported by history.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Sigmaleph on January 31, 2017, 04:43:40 pm
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What if you think you’re punching a Nazi, but you just hit a white guy with a shitty haircut?

Run.

delightful
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: pyro on January 31, 2017, 04:58:56 pm
2) "We" didn't stop killing Germans after world war two ended (at least depending on the definition of we).  Mass Expulsions of German Civilians from Poland. Czechoslovakia and other parts of Eastern Europe saw the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people.  Plus you've got all the unjustifiable stuff that happened during the war (bombings, Japanese internment etc).  That a mindset of "our enemies are just evil so any violence on our part is justified" can led you to do horrible things is very well supported by history.

And then there's the bad blood between the US and Japan following the war. Propaganda programs steer societies the same way you steer cargo ships: directional changes are difficult, slow, and hard to undo. You can't turn on a dime.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on February 01, 2017, 01:51:44 am
http://www.cracked.com/blog/time-out-you-know-nazis-want-you-to-punch-them-right/

Don't punch modern-day Nazis. THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Skybison on February 01, 2017, 03:37:14 am
(https://memecrunch.com/meme/BO8Q5/first-they-came-for-the-muslims-and-we-said-not-this-time-motherfucker/image.jpg?w=1024&c=1)

Personally I'd change it to daughterfucker, but otherwise great.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lana Reverse on February 04, 2017, 09:49:18 pm
(http://images.dailykos.com/images/360211/story_image/image002.jpg?1485973557)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Eiki-mun on February 14, 2017, 02:46:00 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9wI2cE72cw

Explanation: John Oliver said he had an ingenious plan to help educate Donald Trump on important issues: run commercials that would teach him these things during the news shows he watches in the morning. I didn't expect him to actually do it, but lo and behold, he actually did. Great work, John Oliver.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on February 14, 2017, 03:25:01 am
Oliver follows through with his stunts. Like the time he bought a huge amount of student loans and forgave them all.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on February 14, 2017, 03:32:46 am
Oliver follows through with his stunts. Like the time he bought a huge amount of student loans and forgave them all.

Wasn't that medical debt, some of which was already past the date by which it could, by law, be collected?
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: lord gibbon on February 14, 2017, 03:42:24 am
Oliver follows through with his stunts. Like the time he bought a huge amount of student loans and forgave them all.
Or the time he proved how easy it is to get a religious tax exemption... by successfully getting his studio declared a church (Our Lady of Perpetual Exemptions, with first Mega-Reverend Oliver).
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Askold on February 14, 2017, 03:50:44 am
Oliver follows through with his stunts. Like the time he bought a huge amount of student loans and forgave them all.

Wasn't that medical debt, some of which was already past the date by which it could, by law, be collected?


I would have to dig up the video to see for sure, it is on youtube I think...
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on March 15, 2017, 07:24:57 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6_uxYTVwAAQfGI.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SCarpelan on April 23, 2017, 06:27:35 am
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/18034371_1981099695443568_1055876876249776020_n.jpg?oh=6e693f8987493782c919fe371a86556f&oe=5989DDFD)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on April 24, 2017, 12:00:45 am
(http://s3.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/9/2/6/608926_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: SCarpelan on April 26, 2017, 06:56:46 am
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17992288_1214685385320475_6526318778937587235_n.jpg?oh=2056624fbb14350d72ad31fe927513b0&oe=59C2EAC8)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on May 23, 2017, 06:43:22 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAi6-HWWsAEKly2.jpg)

EDIT:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAtLkqUXcAAug1C.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on June 06, 2017, 07:12:30 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBrBv7zXkAAXc7c.jpg:large)

EDIT:

Seen on a protest sign at a Resistance rally:

"Covfefe: Trump's covert back channel communications protocol with Putin's poodle."
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on July 26, 2017, 01:29:55 am
Seen in Minneapolis-St. Paul in the wake of all the police shootings in the area:

(https://www.gomn.com/.image/t_share/MTQ4NzcwNDIwOTg2NzUwNjQz/screen-shot-2017-07-24-at-70303-am.png)

EDIT:

To quote someone from the area:

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I assumed this had only gone viral locally, but I guess it's gone global now. Kinda surreal.

It's one of the busiest intersections outside of the downtowns, it's on the light rail line, and it's a heavily poor & minority neighborhood, so this was well-placed.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: dpareja on September 04, 2017, 06:04:57 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DI5_i55UEAAb7q3.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Lana Reverse on May 31, 2018, 06:06:00 pm
(http://oldmoodle.iaa.edu.jo/pluginfile.php/19330/course/section/8697/CCTV.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on June 02, 2018, 12:31:44 am
Oliver follows through with his stunts. Like the time he bought a huge amount of student loans and forgave them all.
Or the time he proved how easy it is to get a religious tax exemption... by successfully getting his studio declared a church (Our Lady of Perpetual Exemptions, with first Mega-Reverend Oliver).

Or the time he bought that HillaryClintonIllness website domain and replaced it with weasels doing the do.
Title: Re: Awesome Protest Signs
Post by: Skybison on July 17, 2018, 01:09:02 am
(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c9b91b0637fdff561afbba02700e826fb706f3698a5aeb2385eb460cc4d43026.jpg?w=600&h=705)