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Internet Gaming Disorder
« on: November 21, 2013, 01:03:23 am »
Found within section III: Emerging Measures and Models of the DSM-V is this fun bit. From page 795 to 798 for those who have a copy. For those who do not:

Internet Gaming Disorder
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TL:DR
Welp, video games seem to be on the fast track to being deemed addicting. If tolerance and withdrawal are deemed to be caused by playing video games then its game over man, game over.

Lots of research from China is used, government proclamations are dubious sources of information please keep them out of research.

As proposed, at least five out of nine criterion need to be fulfilled for a diagnosis. #8 of the criterion is too vague in my opinion: “8. Use of Internet games to escape or relieve a negative mood (e.g., feelings of helplessness, guilt, anxiety).”
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Re: Internet Gaming Disorder
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2013, 10:43:42 am »
Modern first world life is boring and two dimensional. Teens, especially, instinctively seek out challenge and risk, even if it is simulated. The maturing brain demands a fuck load more interaction and challenge stress and creativity and novelty than the straight and narrow bullshit track to becoming a good little cubicle drone, consumer, tax paying citizen.

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Re: Internet Gaming Disorder
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2013, 03:54:05 pm »
Why the fuck does this particular addiction need its own label?
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Re: Internet Gaming Disorder
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2013, 04:44:42 pm »
Soon, we're going to be seeing cases of "legitimate porn addiction" again.  Games are every bit as legitimately addictive as porn is...which is to say, not in the fucking slightest.
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Re: Internet Gaming Disorder
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2013, 05:06:05 pm »
Fuck you, psychology establishment, because your current approach to treating people is to blame the individuals for balking at the archetype "normality" of passive conformity you have chosen to define and authorize.
It’s like they just forgot the lesson and conflicts that led to the creation of the DSM-II Homosexuality Revision and why homosexuality is only sexual deviancy. Normality is subjective and changing.

Why the fuck does this particular addiction need its own label?
Because someone is trying classify video games under the qualification of addictive substances without the substance part. Someone has an agenda and needs to be kicked the fuck out of the field of psychology.
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Re: Internet Gaming Disorder
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2013, 05:25:35 pm »
I'm torn. On the one hand I want to laugh and say "you think this is an addiction, try oxycontin, bitches." On the other hand, why is psychology trying to legitimize such escapism? I would love to play games all day, but that's not a feasible option. Why attach a "disorder" to it and normalize such self-destructive behavior?

And by "self-destructive behavior" I mean escaping from your real life problems by playing games to this extent.

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Re: Internet Gaming Disorder
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2013, 05:36:52 pm »
I'm torn. On the one hand I want to laugh and say "you think this is an addiction, try oxycontin, bitches." On the other hand, why is psychology trying to legitimize such escapism? I would love to play games all day, but that's not a feasible option. Why attach a "disorder" to it and normalize such self-destructive behavior?

And by "self-destructive behavior" I mean escaping from your real life problems by playing games to this extent.

I'm pretty sure part of the definition of "disorder" in this circumstance is that your well-being is harmed in some way due to compulsions; it doesn't normalize self-destructive behavior, it just tries to categorize it.

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Note: Only nongambling Internet games are included in this disorder. Use of the Internet for required activities in a business or profession is not included; nor is the disorder intended to include other recreational or social Internet use. Similarly, sexual Internet sites are excluded.

It's a useless definition that clearly tries to go after video games because it's low-hanging fruit and the other exclusions are political third rails. This is clearly a media stunt and not a definition worth pursuing in medicine.
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Re: Internet Gaming Disorder
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2013, 11:34:24 pm »
It would make more sense to group this under a broad "non-drug-based addictions/obsessions" label, being that pretty much anything can become an addiction/obsession if you combine internal and external factors with an obsessive personality.
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Re: Internet Gaming Disorder
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2013, 03:05:36 am »
This is actually not all that bad.
I am an avid gamer, but this diagnosis would not apply to me, much like how obsessive compulsive disorder wouldn't.
Many people display behaviors that indicate a degree of association towards a disorder such as OCD or gaming addiction. The difference and main point is if the behavior affects ones way of living. There are people who take gaming to such extremes that their own physical health begins to suffer, and those are the people who will mainly be diagnosed with this disorder. (provided the psychologist is competent and not trying to follow some type of agenda.)

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Re: Internet Gaming Disorder
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2013, 03:31:20 am »
But that applies to all addictions, not just video games.  There's addictions to the internet, addictions to food, addictions to reading, addictions to television, addictions to ... well, anything, really.

Why should video games, which in recent times have been scapegoated for everything from devil worship to serial killing, get picked on?
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Re: Internet Gaming Disorder
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2013, 07:29:44 am »
I'd consider it being an obsession, even a dependence, not an addiction. Though it can turn into a legitimate addiction. There is a very real difference between addiction and dependence and a lot of people like to get that confused. They are related but they are not exactly the same. I am dependent on Oxyconton and percocet but it isn't an addiction. An addiction is defined as being detrimental to your health and way of life, not just because you are focused on getting your next fix but because it is actually ruining your mental or physical health (such as the drug we have talked about before called Krokodil).

On the flipside tho...

Video games are used to treat low-level depression, PTSD, and anxiety. The concept is the psychology of "flow". Your mind is so dedicated to a task that it has 'no time' to process your anxiety, or the slight depression,  or a ptsd episode. It's why some people suggest playing Tetris after a traumatic event or during an episode of depression or PTSD.

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