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Re: A Million Pound Atheist "Temple"
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2012, 06:17:15 pm »
Look, I don't like rabid antitheists who can't leave other people alone JUST for being religious.

Everything else on the atheist/anti-theist spectrum is generally just peachy.  Even the antitheists that really really really hate religion.

However, Dawkins is too much of an ass for me to like him.  I like his mind, I just hate his attitude.
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Re: A Million Pound Atheist "Temple"
« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2012, 12:17:44 pm »
So it's settled then. We take that million pounds and go find a decent spokesperson. Maybe give zir a couple years operating budget, set zim up on maybe some of those Sunday morning talking heads shows, try to get moderate atheism more mainstream and accepted. Sounds like Dawkins is out. So who does that leave? Penn Jillette maybe?
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Re: A Million Pound Atheist "Temple"
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2012, 12:20:51 pm »
So it's settled then. We take that million pounds and go find a decent spokesperson. Maybe give zir a couple years operating budget, set zim up on maybe some of those Sunday morning talking heads shows, try to get moderate atheism more mainstream and accepted. Sounds like Dawkins is out. So who does that leave? Penn Jillette maybe?

If you get Pen Jillette does that mean non-Atheists are welcome? It would be the open minded thing to do.
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Re: A Million Pound Atheist "Temple"
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2012, 12:29:46 pm »
Sure, you can come. In fact, I would encourage it. Recruiting is where we get new atheists from.
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Re: A Million Pound Atheist "Temple"
« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2012, 06:04:30 pm »
So it's settled then. We take that million pounds and go find a decent spokesperson. Maybe give zir a couple years operating budget, set zim up on maybe some of those Sunday morning talking heads shows, try to get moderate atheism more mainstream and accepted. Sounds like Dawkins is out. So who does that leave? Penn Jillette maybe?

Eeh, no.  Not because Penn's loud or obnoxious, but because he's basically an anarcho-capitalist.  Don't want someone like that representing me, that's for damn sure.  I say, we don't do like our neighbors and elect a chosen spokesperson or leader, but let each individual speak for themselves.
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Re: A Million Pound Atheist "Temple"
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2012, 06:43:53 pm »
So it's settled then. We take that million pounds and go find a decent spokesperson. Maybe give zir a couple years operating budget, set zim up on maybe some of those Sunday morning talking heads shows, try to get moderate atheism more mainstream and accepted. Sounds like Dawkins is out. So who does that leave? Penn Jillette maybe?

Eeh, no.  Not because Penn's loud or obnoxious, but because he's basically an anarcho-capitalist.  Don't want someone like that representing me, that's for damn sure.  I say, we don't do like our neighbors and elect a chosen spokesperson or leader, but let each individual speak for themselves.
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Re: A Million Pound Atheist "Temple"
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2012, 07:20:51 pm »
You know, the're that whole thing about herding atheists being like herding cats, but I wish it was pony.

I'm going to pretend it is about herding ponies, which are hard to herd as far as I know.  Which is ironic considering that the welcome for new bronies is "Welcome to the Herd."

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Re: A Million Pound Atheist "Temple"
« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2012, 07:57:50 pm »
I'd herd dat.

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Re: A Million Pound Atheist "Temple"
« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2012, 09:51:30 pm »
I'm with Sigmaleph, obviously. If someone tried to turn atheism into a dogmatic institution, it would be stupid. Of course Fundies are going to try & portray it that way anyway. Because they are stupid.

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Re: A Million Pound Atheist "Temple"
« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2012, 10:58:36 am »


Eeh, no.  Not because Penn's loud or obnoxious, but because he's basically an anarcho-capitalist.  Don't want someone like that representing me, that's for damn sure.  I say, we don't do like our neighbors and elect a chosen spokesperson or leader, but let each individual speak for themselves.

Damn, do I suck at writing tongue in cheek. 
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Re: A Million Pound Atheist "Temple"
« Reply #40 on: January 31, 2012, 04:35:15 pm »
I thought it was pretty obvious you weren't being serious. <shrugs>

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Re: A Million Pound Atheist "Temple"
« Reply #41 on: January 31, 2012, 06:21:44 pm »
I disagree with Penn on a few issues but overall I think he's way more courteous than these other guys who have been representing us. Penn won't call anyone a deluded idiot for believing in religion, but he won't instantly flip over just because someone asks nicely.
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Re: A Million Pound Atheist "Temple"
« Reply #42 on: January 31, 2012, 06:59:35 pm »
Damn, do I suck at writing tongue in cheek. 
Oops. Well, assume everything I wrote is directed at someone who actually believes atheism needs an official spokesperson.
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Re: A Million Pound Atheist "Temple"
« Reply #43 on: February 01, 2012, 05:30:56 pm »


Eeh, no.  Not because Penn's loud or obnoxious, but because he's basically an anarcho-capitalist.  Don't want someone like that representing me, that's for damn sure.  I say, we don't do like our neighbors and elect a chosen spokesperson or leader, but let each individual speak for themselves.

Damn, do I suck at writing tongue in cheek.

Agh...sorry bout that.  It ain't you, brother, its the medium.  Text makes things like that very difficult to discern.
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Re: A Million Pound Atheist "Temple"
« Reply #44 on: February 03, 2012, 03:57:44 pm »
I have no idea what you're talking about because I live in the real world, where no one cares about dashing rainbows or whatever.
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Just going to quietly second this, and the fact that a temple is a retarded idea. Now, a library dedicated to preserving all forms of literature and history (particularly those that fuckheads try to burn), that could be cool.

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