Shafia's found guilty of 1st Degree Murder

[D Laurier]

The funny thing is, is that this isn't much of a "muslim" phenomenom.  In India, women are killed, beaten, set on fire for marrying the wrong caste, and who hasn't heard of some white dad killing his daughter because she was dating a 'no good troublmaker'

Muslims just have a term for it.   That being said, I'm glad they've been convicted.  When it first broke in the news, the parents played the role of 'grieving parents', which in hindsight, seemed even more despicable.

indeed.
"Death by missadventure" is what they call it among english speaking white folks.

[largeham]

Honestly, I don't care why anybody commits an 'honour' killing or any other kind of ritual/cultural/religious killing. I don't care how much 'good' they think they're doing for the victim, or themselves, or their families, or their communities by offing someone over some neolithic superstition--the fact is that except for self-defense or euthanasia of the ill and suffering, there just flat-out isn't a good reason to kill anybody. Nothing you can say, no god you can appeal to, no 'IT'S MY CULTURE!!' crap you can hide behind can change that. I don't care how ethnocentric of me this is, either. IT IS OBJECTIVELY NOT OKAY AND NOTHING IN THE WORLD CHANGES THAT.

I completely agree, I was just wondering if they tried to justify it, kinda like anti-gay activists talk about 'saving people' and 'bringing them back to Christ'.

[The Lazy One]

Aren't these the same people who Googled "how to commit a murder" before killing their daughter? I mean, that's kind of an indicator that the defendant might actually be guilty. Either way, good that they were convicted.

[Caitshidhe]

Off-topic: what the crap is that in your icon? Looks like milk with a dead dragonfly in it...

[Osama bin Bambi]

Off-topic: what the crap is that in your icon? Looks like milk with a dead dragonfly in it...

I thought it was some flowers in a soup bowl.

[SkyTrekTower]

I'm glad they were found guilty, and I hope the 25 year minimum turns into a life sentence.  I'm sure Canadian prison is different from American prison, but I hope these people are left to rot in some cell (preferably in solitary confinement).  I don't know how anyone could kill their own child(ren), even if they are upset with them.  Isn't that supposed to be essentially biologically/psychologically impossible?

[erictheblue]

Isn't that supposed to be essentially biologically/psychologically impossible?

Obviously not.

[The Lazy One]

Aren't these the same people who Googled "how to commit a murder" before killing their daughter? I mean, that's kind of an indicator that the defendant might actually be guilty. Either way, good that they were convicted.

It's flowers in a coffee cup, but it's really just a placeholder until I can find one I like better. I was getting tired of my old one, but haven't found a new one I really like yet.

[Scotsgit]

The funny thing is, is that this isn't much of a "muslim" phenomenom.  In India, women are killed, beaten, set on fire for marrying the wrong caste, and who hasn't heard of some white dad killing his daughter because she was dating a 'no good troublmaker'

Muslims just have a term for it.   That being said, I'm glad they've been convicted.  When it first broke in the news, the parents played the role of 'grieving parents', which in hindsight, seemed even more despicable.

indeed.
"Death by missadventure" is what they call it among english speaking white folks.

'Death By Misadventure' is actually Victorian term for suicide:  because suicide was illegal and against various Church laws, the deceased's family wouldn't get insurance and couldn't bury the body in a consecrated grave.

These days, it usually refers to someone who's died through doing something such as thinking it's a really smart idea to walk through or a railway tunnel ("He said it was quicker") or try and plug something in whilst in the bath, that kind of thing.

[The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist]

This was in Canada, not the US.

Oh. Right. My bad.

Eh, Canada's foster care system isn't exactly amazing either, so the point still stands.

But they're from Afghanistan...

Saudi Arabia bills itself as THE Muslim state, despite the fact that the majority of Muslims don't adhere to the Hanbali madhhab. As such, those unfamiliar with the religion tend to assume that Saudi Arabian law is representative of what all or most Muslims believe.

[Rabbit of Caerbannog]

Serves the bastards right.

That's all I can bring myself to say.

[Jodie]

I am not surprised they were convicted. Unfortunately I do not think their conviction will sway other murdering bastards from offing their own children when it conveniences them using the same false "honour" justification.

[Scotsgit]

I am not surprised they were convicted. Unfortunately I do not think their conviction will sway other murdering bastards from offing their own children when it conveniences them using the same false "honour" justification.

Sadly true.  There's been too many of these cases (one involving the murder of a female police officer) for anyone to think they'll go away anytime soon.  What IS worrying is that the families who commit them don't see a problem with it.

[armandtanzarian]

The funny thing is, is that this isn't much of a "muslim" phenomenom.  In India, women are killed, beaten, set on fire for marrying the wrong caste, and who hasn't heard of some white dad killing his daughter because she was dating a 'no good troublmaker'

Muslims just have a term for it.   That being said, I'm glad they've been convicted.  When it first broke in the news, the parents played the role of 'grieving parents', which in hindsight, seemed even more despicable.

indeed.
"Death by missadventure" is what they call it among english speaking white folks.

Its more a sexism thing than a Muslim thing. The cultures that have honor killing are usually those that treat women as property, of the father before marriage and of the husband after. Its called honor killing because women who don't listen to their husbands are no longer women, they're "spoiled goods" that should be "thrown away".

[The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist]

Its more a sexism thing than a Muslim thing. The cultures that have honor killing are usually those that treat women as property, of the father before marriage and of the husband after. Its called honor killing because women who don't listen to their husbands are no longer women, they're "spoiled goods" that should be "thrown away".

This. It's not always as overt as bride burning and honour killings, either -- apology for rape and domestic abuse against women also stems from the same "bitch had it coming" mentality.