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Offline Skybison

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Re: Heretics at the train station
« Reply #45 on: November 08, 2018, 10:39:31 pm »
And he opposes freedom of religion/freedom of conscious, a central concept of democracy.

Why does Jacob hate America?

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Re: Heretics at the train station
« Reply #46 on: November 08, 2018, 10:58:23 pm »
And he opposes freedom of religion/freedom of conscious, a central concept of democracy.

Why does Jacob hate America?

And freedom of speech--hates that you don't have blasphemy laws.

Probably freedom of the press as well--only good Christians should publish newspapers.

Freedom of peaceful assembly? Not if you're gathering in a mosque I bet.

And petitioning the government? Not if it's to get a church-state separation violation repealed.
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Re: Heretics at the train station
« Reply #47 on: November 09, 2018, 07:28:53 am »
America is founded upon the ideals of democracy and freedom of belief.  Your love of monarchy is unpatriotic. 

Why do you hate America?

I support democracy in the United States because it was founded as such. However England was founded as a monarchy.
Meaning you don't support democracy in principle. If supporting hoary old claims is all you give a shit about why support the US at all? The American revolution was an insurrection specifically designed to deprive the British crown of its assets.

Because the illegitimate tyrannical monarch King George III was oppressing the colonies.

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Re: Heretics at the train station
« Reply #48 on: November 09, 2018, 07:32:02 am »
And he opposes freedom of religion/freedom of conscious, a central concept of democracy.

Why does Jacob hate America?

I support freedom of religion as long as Christianity is the dominant religion promoted by the government which it was back in the good old days when the US was more Christian and there was prayer in public schools. So I want America to return to how it used to be.

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Re: Heretics at the train station
« Reply #49 on: November 09, 2018, 07:35:09 am »
And he opposes freedom of religion/freedom of conscious, a central concept of democracy.

Why does Jacob hate America?

And freedom of speech--hates that you don't have blasphemy laws.

Probably freedom of the press as well--only good Christians should publish newspapers.

Freedom of peaceful assembly? Not if you're gathering in a mosque I bet.

And petitioning the government? Not if it's to get a church-state separation violation repealed.

You have to put the First Amendment in the context of the time. At the time the First Amendment was written, the states had blasphemy laws so the First Amendment does not apply to blasphemy laws.

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Re: Heretics at the train station
« Reply #50 on: November 09, 2018, 08:09:10 am »
Because the illegitimate tyrannical monarch King George III was oppressing the colonies.
So? You're supposed to be a good little royalist. It's his divine right to tyrant his colonies.

If you're going to royally get rid of him you do it George RR Martin style. Plots, murders and some other toff who's got a claim to the throne because his daddy was related to someone important. You certainly don't start a rebellion that seeks to defy the divine right of kings.

Or you can try being consistent and allow the British people to have their freedom to vote and elect people to run things the way they want, given that you're all for those colonials getting a slice of theirs.

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Re: Heretics at the train station
« Reply #51 on: November 09, 2018, 08:24:59 am »
Because the illegitimate tyrannical monarch King George III was oppressing the colonies.
So? You're supposed to be a good little royalist. It's his divine right to tyrant his colonies.

If you're going to royally get rid of him you do it George RR Martin style. Plots, murders and some other toff who's got a claim to the throne because his daddy was related to someone important. You certainly don't start a rebellion that seeks to defy the divine right of kings.

Or you can try being consistent and allow the British people to have their freedom to vote and elect people to run things the way they want, given that you're all for those colonials getting a slice of theirs.

It is not his right because he was not the rightful monarch. The colonials did not have to royally get rid of him, because the true monarchs never ruled over them. They therefore had the right to establish a new independent nation. However if the war continued, causing them to invade England, then they could have put the rightful heir on the throne of England.