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Stabbing The Homeless
« on: June 11, 2014, 12:57:47 am »
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/sharp-online-response-to-londons-antihomeless-spikes-20140610-39uwr.html

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The studs, similar to those used to keep pigeons off buildings, have been installed in the alcove of the apartment block, which is opposite a hostel for homeless people with mental health problems.





London now has spikes to stop vagrancy! Oh thats classy
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Re: Stabbing The Homeless
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2014, 12:58:56 am »
...Wow.

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Re: Stabbing The Homeless
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2014, 01:23:53 am »
... Is this a cartoon?
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Re: Stabbing The Homeless
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2014, 01:26:37 am »
Some building owner in Montreal tried this and the mayor intervened and got them removed almost as soon as they were installed.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/anti-loitering-spikes-removed-after-montreal-mayor-voices-outrage-1.2670842
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Re: Stabbing The Homeless
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2014, 01:30:10 am »
I have a feeling these will be removed before long.

That being said, whoever thought this was a right idea needs to be shoved onto them.

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Re: Stabbing The Homeless
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2014, 01:49:41 am »
SERIOUSLY guys? The hell?
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2014, 01:57:07 am »
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Re: Stabbing The Homeless
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2014, 02:05:55 am »
I wonder if the people who are behind this looked themselves in the mirror 4m and realised that they are officially bad guys now.
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Re: Stabbing The Homeless
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2014, 03:44:38 am »
And no one considers just how much of an issue homeless people must be outside of those stores to make them do this?
Its not like they are impaling homeless people on them, they are just making those places uncomfortable to sit / sleep. Given general public loitering laws, those places must have had endless trouble with vagrants before resulting in these kinds of measures.

Like it of not, vagrancy affects businesses. You are less likely to enter a store if you have to dodge a bunch of homeless people to get there. Sure, homeless people should be looked after and treated better, but merely leaving them to crash in a storefront isn't the answer either.

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Re: Stabbing The Homeless
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2014, 04:00:33 am »
And no one considers just how much of an issue homeless people must be outside of those stores to make them do this?
Its not like they are impaling homeless people on them, they are just making those places uncomfortable to sit / sleep. Given general public loitering laws, those places must have had endless trouble with vagrants before resulting in these kinds of measures.

Like it of not, vagrancy affects businesses. You are less likely to enter a store if you have to dodge a bunch of homeless people to get there. Sure, homeless people should be looked after and treated better, but merely leaving them to crash in a storefront isn't the answer either.

Because homeless because should stay out of sight, and out of mind, so everyone can pretend everything is hunky dory, and the inconvenience of a business owner is so much more important than places for homeless people to rest as they try their best to survive.

Right.  That's what REALLY matters.

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Re: Stabbing The Homeless
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2014, 04:20:45 am »
Nothing makes people get up and get jobs better than spikes digging into their flesh!

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Re: Stabbing The Homeless
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2014, 07:37:16 am »
This sounds like something a Charles Dickens villain would do.

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Re: Stabbing The Homeless
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2014, 11:51:16 am »
They also installed these spikes on park benches where if you put in a coin, it'll retract for a time.  How long, the article didn't say.  But these are public parks where kids play.  Imagine a kid coming upon one of these benches, not knowing about the spikes and sitting down because someone paid for his time and left before it's up.  How fast do the spikes come back up I wonder?

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Re: Stabbing The Homeless
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2014, 05:32:30 pm »
Back in Atlanta, my last restaurant was located in a high-end business and theatre district, across from a nice park, which homeless folk would gather in at times. Most were fine, no problems, and passers by would sometimes stop and give them money or snacks (Atlanta is a friendly, mostly liberal city). I used to ask homeless people who begged from my patio diners to come around back for a hot meal, which was served to them at an employee break table in a corner of our huge kitchen. This was a fine dining restaurant, so that meal was not anything to scoff at! If they refused, and continued to accost or stare at my customers, that was when they would get told to leave. A few actually started fights with the male manager, even though he was a kind man, and very polite, as he also respected the customer's feelings as they witnessed these interactions. The violent ones got arrested.

We often hired the ones who cooperated to do cleaning or trash bag duty, paid them cash, $20 or more. All of the active beggar types had alcohol or drug addictions. The ones who were aggressive, violent assholes usually had outstanding warrants for mugging, purse snatching or burglary, so I didn't feel all that bad about them getting arrested.
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Re: Stabbing The Homeless
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2014, 06:10:58 pm »
And no one considers just how much of an issue homeless people must be outside of those stores to make them do this?
Its not like they are impaling homeless people on them, they are just making those places uncomfortable to sit / sleep. Given general public loitering laws, those places must have had endless trouble with vagrants before resulting in these kinds of measures.

Like it of not, vagrancy affects businesses. You are less likely to enter a store if you have to dodge a bunch of homeless people to get there. Sure, homeless people should be looked after and treated better, but merely leaving them to crash in a storefront isn't the answer either.

It's an apartment block, not a store.
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