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Re: Gun and weapon porn
« Reply #60 on: June 08, 2014, 01:30:00 pm »
There are some good double barreled rifles. Back in the old days those were nearly mandatory for big game hunters simply for the sake of safety.

Guns like this are not only practical but also pretty:


And then we got guns like this:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD4u_e2xjE4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD4u_e2xjE4</a>

...The benefits are really few and do not overcome the added weight and the awkward two trigger build.

Oh, two triggers? They specifically point out that those two triggers and being semiauto only make it legal in USA for civilians, which I assume reveals the reason for this guns existence. Rather than the bull about military use this gun is purely for those gun-hobbyists who want a twinlinked assault rifle.
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Re: Gun and weapon porn
« Reply #61 on: June 08, 2014, 02:54:27 pm »
The Gilboa Snake would never be purchased by any actual special forces group anyway. Never mind the added weight and complexity to the gun and the awkwardness of the setup; actual special forces groups probably have access to compact assault rifles anyway! A semi-auto rifle that tries to "cheat" full auto fire through two barrels and triggers is completely useless to them. Even the ammo capacity is pointless, since we have 60-round casket magazines available that can be reloaded as one unit rather than two.

I can't see this gun being successful. The Desert Eagle at least has legitimate uses in handgun hunting to justify buying it for a practical purpose, but the Snake is inferior to regular rifles in so many ways that it's destined to be nothing but an expensive range queen.
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Re: Gun and weapon porn
« Reply #62 on: June 08, 2014, 03:00:26 pm »
I think they could and probably will make full auto versions of the Snake if some military buys them, but the point is that they made a civilian version specifically to fit the laws in USA. But the military version would still have two triggers due to the way it was made and that is STILL awkward.

If you want higher ammo capacity more or bigger magazines is better solution. If you want faster rate of fire making a regular Assault rifle with a higher ROF is better than using two guns.

Should have just come out straight and said that it is a quirky gun for those who like them. Like the people who made these:
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Re: Gun and weapon porn
« Reply #63 on: June 08, 2014, 03:31:10 pm »
I don't even see a double-barrel assault rifle being much use. A lightweight carbine with a light bolt will have a rate of fire perfectly suitable for close quarters battle or suppression, and a casket magazine immediately gives you the same capacity as a Snake. Two barrels also have a major problem: convergence. In order to achieve a semblance of accuracy, the barrels are typically slightly angled inward so the bullets converge at a specific point. Even with convergence, the gun will lack accuracy at ranges below or above that point. Without convergence, you're shooting with the sights too far to the side. A Mk 18 Mod 0 may have relatively low accuracy and range from its short barrel, but it can still hit a man 100 yards out with a single shot because the sights are aligned with the barrel.

It would literally only be useful in immediate close quarters fighting where you're relying on full auto sprays with relatively little accuracy.....and we already have regular guns that accomplish that with half the complexity and cost.
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Re: Gun and weapon porn
« Reply #64 on: June 08, 2014, 06:36:40 pm »
Am I honestly the only one who wants to see more melee weapons? :(
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Re: Gun and weapon porn
« Reply #65 on: June 08, 2014, 06:39:31 pm »
Ah, here you go, then:



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Re: Gun and weapon porn
« Reply #66 on: June 08, 2014, 06:46:24 pm »
@R.U. Sirius

Nope!

http://www.oldeshillelagh.com/DSCF1178.JPG (too big to direct image link, no point putting it in a spoiler tag either)

These are shillelaghs.  Shillelagh is pronounced "Shi-Lay-Lee" or "Shi-Lay-La" (both are valid)

They're an old Irish weapon.  Who needs a swordcane when your cane is a potent weapon in its own right?  They're basically clubcanes.  Those bulbous heads are sometimes hollowed out and filled with molten lead.  Now, imagine that cracking your skull open.

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Re: Gun and weapon porn
« Reply #67 on: June 08, 2014, 11:28:30 pm »
Now that you mention it...


Since Frogman was asking about walking sticks and swordcanes I looked around a bit and found this:

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The original Blackthorn sticks were 2 to 4 foot long Irish shillelaghs (the national weapon of rural Ireland). In expert hands the shillelagh was so fearsome that during the final occupation of Ireland, the English outlawed it. To get around the law, the Irish turned the shillelagh into a 3-foot walking stick. The English didn't want to appear unreasonable by outlawing walking sticks too, so the Irish kept their modified shillelaghs and the world gained a beautiful and functional walking stick known simply as the Blackthorn.

Sadly it is made from PP rather than real wood but that means that it is a sturdy walking stick that is also pretty good club if you need to defend yourself. And honestly, I have never really liked swordcanes and after trying SCA armoured combat I've come to the conclusion that a nice club is just as good for the fictional and unlikely self defense situation.

And really, I'd rather have a sturdy cane than a flimsy and cheap sword-cane. It would probably be a better cane as well.
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Re: Gun and weapon porn
« Reply #68 on: June 09, 2014, 12:18:38 am »


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Re: Gun and weapon porn
« Reply #69 on: June 09, 2014, 12:37:19 am »
Ah, here you go, then:



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Re: Gun and weapon porn
« Reply #70 on: June 09, 2014, 12:38:15 am »
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Re: Gun and weapon porn
« Reply #71 on: June 09, 2014, 06:11:10 am »
If it's melee weapons you want, I think I may have you covered with this odachi (or no-dachi...same difference really).


I know what you're thinking and you're right; odachi's like that were not used in battle.  They were ceremonial, mostly used as offerings at shrines.  However smaller ones were used on the battlefield, most likely on horseback (or possibly even as an anti-cavalry weapon).  "Smaller" is a relative term though; they were still the size of a person and required a servant to help you draw them.  [spoilered for size]
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Re: Gun and weapon porn
« Reply #72 on: June 12, 2014, 07:11:46 pm »
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Re: Gun and weapon porn
« Reply #73 on: June 12, 2014, 09:42:31 pm »
Ah, here you go, then:



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« Reply #74 on: June 13, 2014, 10:21:15 am »
Ah, here you go, then:



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