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Indonesia arrests an atheist for Facebook posting
« on: February 01, 2012, 08:44:09 am »
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2012/01/31/alexander-aan-under-attack-for-blasphemy-suddenly-converts-to-islam/

Couple of days ago someone called Alexander Aan from Indonesia was arrested for a posting on his facebook proclaiming God doesn't exist. Indonesia essentially bans atheism; you must subscribe to one of six "official" religions; and the main religion is Islam. Couple that with the increased streak of radicalism in Indonesia, we get a situation like this.

Indonesian media is now reporting he is "repenting". He might continue to be charged with blasphemy though.

http://news.monstersandcritics.com/asiapacific/news/article_1688076.php/Indonesian-atheist-might-embrace-Islam-after-arrest-police-say

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Re: Indonesia arrests an atheist for Facebook posting
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2012, 09:14:15 am »
Ah fucking hell. This is shit. Seems that both Malaysia and Indonesia are suffering from a rise in fundamentalism.

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Re: Indonesia arrests an atheist for Facebook posting
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2012, 11:54:38 am »
What is strange is that Indonesian populce is largely secular
Also why does he have to do Islam why not Buddhism
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Re: Indonesia arrests an atheist for Facebook posting
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2012, 12:20:47 pm »
Also why does he have to do Islam why not Buddhism

Inheritance of religion, probably. If his parents, grandparents, etc. were/are Muslim, he'd be labeled Muslim from birth and therefore an apostate if he tried to convert to another religion. In fundamentalist Islam, apostasy is considered to be one of the worst crimes a person can commit.

It's bullshit, of course, but if Indonesia adheres to those laws, he would be legally barred from being anything other than Muslim.

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Re: Indonesia arrests an atheist for Facebook posting
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2012, 01:39:53 pm »
Also why does he have to do Islam why not Buddhism

Inheritance of religion, probably. If his parents, grandparents, etc. were/are Muslim, he'd be labeled Muslim from birth and therefore an apostate if he tried to convert to another religion. In fundamentalist Islam, apostasy is considered to be one of the worst crimes a person can commit.

It's bullshit, of course, but if Indonesia adheres to those laws, he would be legally barred from being anything other than Muslim.

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Re: Indonesia arrests an atheist for Facebook posting
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2012, 01:46:50 pm »
This is absolutely terrifying to know.  The sad thing is that if fundamentalists had their way, the U.S. wouldn't be much different, except with Christianity instead of Islam.
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Re: Indonesia arrests an atheist for Facebook posting
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2012, 02:01:36 pm »
My first thought as well.
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Re: Indonesia arrests an atheist for Facebook posting
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2012, 02:31:41 pm »
Not surprising. Which is sad.
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Re: Indonesia arrests an atheist for Facebook posting
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2012, 03:01:47 pm »
If the Fundamentalists had their way, you would not have 6 options.

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Re: Indonesia arrests an atheist for Facebook posting
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2012, 03:07:33 pm »
Even 6 options are very limiting.
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Re: Indonesia arrests an atheist for Facebook posting
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2012, 04:32:21 pm »
If the Fundamentalists had their way, you would not have 6 options.

Sure you would. But since religious freedom means getting to pick out which branch of christianity (screw you, spell check, I am not capitalizing the "c") you want as long as it isn't Catholic or LDS. So you can be a Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, whathaveyou.
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Re: Indonesia arrests an atheist for Facebook posting
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2012, 04:43:06 pm »
He shouldn't be arrested for being an atheist. Posting on Facebook is another matter entirely.
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Re: Indonesia arrests an atheist for Facebook posting
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2012, 05:08:34 pm »
My first thought as well.

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Re: Indonesia arrests an atheist for Facebook posting
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2012, 05:19:03 pm »
If the Fundamentalists had their way, you would not have 6 options.

Sure you would. But since religious freedom means getting to pick out which branch of christianity (screw you, spell check, I am not capitalizing the "c") you want as long as it isn't Catholic or LDS. So you can be a Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, whathaveyou.

That's what they say, but in reality, you'd have to agree with everything the victorious Fundamentalist group said.

Take a look at RR. Actually, they do away with the pretense entirely, & go on about how they "don't believe in religion."

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Re: Indonesia arrests an atheist for Facebook posting
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2012, 05:21:21 pm »
If the Fundamentalists had their way, you would not have 6 options.

Sure you would. But since religious freedom means getting to pick out which branch of christianity (screw you, spell check, I am not capitalizing the "c") you want as long as it isn't Catholic or LDS. So you can be a Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, whathaveyou.
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