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https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/jehovahs-witness-leader-warns-members-destroy-evidence-child-abuse-claims-satans-coming/

TL;DR Jehowas Witnesses have been known to cover up child molesters over the years but recently some of them have been arrested. In response to changing times and more arrests in the future, JW leader in charge of their records (including the evidence) is urging the members to destroy all records because "Satan is coming" to destroy the organization.

Slightly longer version: JWs like many religious organizations want to handle member violations internally. JWs do so and in many cases they give some slap on the hands punishment and then declare that the issue is over and must never be revealed to outsiders. This includes child molesters. Now that "Me Too" movement has brought light to several sexual assaults and harassment (not to mention that otherwise as well victims have started talking over the last few years in Finland and other countries where JWs operate) it has affected JWs as well and recently New York demanded that they release the evidence they have on 800 separate child molesters... Obviously the organization blames the devil. Not for molesting the kids, but for bringing light to it.
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I've been watching a fair deal of stuff about that organization of late, so this comes as no surprise to me.

The real danger is that if they're chucked in prison for destroying evidence, it'll give the leaders of the religion a way to indoctrinate the members even deeper, because it'd be more "proof" that "Satan's world is against us".
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It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Obviously the organization blames the devil. Not for molesting the kids, but for bringing light to it.

Makes sense to me. Hail Lucifer, then.

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"I need to stand up to selfishness and independent thinking, even if it's my own."

--Heard in a dramatization at a JW Convention from this year (emphasis mine)

"Now as to the spirit of independence, right now, we need to resolutely reject today's independent spirit."

--Heard at the same convention in a speech

Yep, reject independent thought.
Quote from: Jordan Duram
It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

Quote from: Supreme Court of Canada
Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: JW leader urging to destroy evidence of child molestation in organization
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2018, 04:29:46 am »
I never did trust these ones. The Mormons were weird but mostly friendly. JWs seem more abrasive and more likely to do something like this.

Though I wouldn't be shocked to hear the LDS church has corruption problems, since it seems to happen with all organized religions.

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Re: JW leader urging to destroy evidence of child molestation in organization
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2018, 12:40:39 pm »
LDS and other similar groups are even worse because of the secrecy they have. It helps them hide a lot of dirty stuff.
No matter what happens, no matter what my last words may end up being, I want everyone to claim that they were:
"If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine."
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Re: JW leader urging to destroy evidence of child molestation in organization
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2018, 04:30:55 am »
Isn't ordering a crime a crime? How is this fuckwad not in jail?

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Re: JW leader urging to destroy evidence of child molestation in organization
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2018, 01:56:37 pm »
Because religion.
Quote from: Jordan Duram
It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

Quote from: Supreme Court of Canada
Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.