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Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« on: October 31, 2018, 07:20:45 pm »
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/27/ireland-votes-to-oust-blasphemy-ban-from-constitution

The Irish constitution used to make blasphemy illegal. A few days ago, Irish voters, by a nearly two-to-one margin, repealed that ban.
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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2018, 08:24:09 pm »
It shows how formerly Catholic Ireland has fallen into apostasy. :(
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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2018, 08:59:52 pm »
The Irish Catholic Bishops' Conference, which had opposed the 34th Amendment (legalizing same-sex marriage), and said that passage of the 36th Amendment (lifting the constitutional near-ban on abortion) would be "a shocking step" and "a manifest injustice" (see The Irish Times), took a neutral position on this amendment, calling the provision repealed "largely obsolete" and noting that similar provisions elsewhere "have been used to justify violence and oppression against minorities," and that promoting freedom of conscience and religion "greatly increases the social fabric of a country." (Again, see The Irish Times.)

Maybe after voters ripped them a few new ones with the 34th and 36th, they thought not coming out against the 37th would keep some people who wanted to poke them in the eye a third time at home so it would fail.
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It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2018, 09:56:45 pm »
Slowly but surely, religious power and influence is being eroded all throughout the first world. It's truly a beautiful sight to behold.

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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2018, 07:45:12 am »
The Irish Catholic Bishops' Conference, which had opposed the 34th Amendment (legalizing same-sex marriage), and said that passage of the 36th Amendment (lifting the constitutional near-ban on abortion) would be "a shocking step" and "a manifest injustice" (see The Irish Times), took a neutral position on this amendment, calling the provision repealed "largely obsolete" and noting that similar provisions elsewhere "have been used to justify violence and oppression against minorities," and that promoting freedom of conscience and religion "greatly increases the social fabric of a country." (Again, see The Irish Times.)

Maybe after voters ripped them a few new ones with the 34th and 36th, they thought not coming out against the 37th would keep some people who wanted to poke them in the eye a third time at home so it would fail.

It shows that the Vatican 2 Bishops of Ireland have also fallen into apostasy, calling a sacred law that protects God from blashphemy obsolete and saying that decreasing Christian influence in a traditionally Catholic nation increases the social fabric of the country.

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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2018, 07:48:11 am »
Slowly but surely, religious power and influence is being eroded all throughout the first world. It's truly a beautiful sight to behold.

It is not a beautiful sight to behold because while Christianity is decreasing, Islam is increasing so Christianity is needed to counter the threat of Islam.

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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2018, 08:02:22 am »
Oh god he figured out this section exists.

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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2018, 10:25:45 am »
The Irish Catholic Bishops' Conference, which had opposed the 34th Amendment (legalizing same-sex marriage), and said that passage of the 36th Amendment (lifting the constitutional near-ban on abortion) would be "a shocking step" and "a manifest injustice" (see The Irish Times), took a neutral position on this amendment, calling the provision repealed "largely obsolete" and noting that similar provisions elsewhere "have been used to justify violence and oppression against minorities," and that promoting freedom of conscience and religion "greatly increases the social fabric of a country." (Again, see The Irish Times.)

Maybe after voters ripped them a few new ones with the 34th and 36th, they thought not coming out against the 37th would keep some people who wanted to poke them in the eye a third time at home so it would fail.

It shows that the Vatican 2 Bishops of Ireland have also fallen into apostasy, calling a sacred law that protects God from blashphemy obsolete and saying that decreasing Christian influence in a traditionally Catholic nation increases the social fabric of the country.

It would also have meant that you couldn't say that Islam is wrong, or Judaism is wrong, or Hinduism is wrong...

Speech is more important than your nonexistent God's pwecious fee-fees.
Quote from: Jordan Duram
It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2018, 12:05:48 pm »
The Irish Catholic Bishops' Conference, which had opposed the 34th Amendment (legalizing same-sex marriage), and said that passage of the 36th Amendment (lifting the constitutional near-ban on abortion) would be "a shocking step" and "a manifest injustice" (see The Irish Times), took a neutral position on this amendment, calling the provision repealed "largely obsolete" and noting that similar provisions elsewhere "have been used to justify violence and oppression against minorities," and that promoting freedom of conscience and religion "greatly increases the social fabric of a country." (Again, see The Irish Times.)

Maybe after voters ripped them a few new ones with the 34th and 36th, they thought not coming out against the 37th would keep some people who wanted to poke them in the eye a third time at home so it would fail.

It shows that the Vatican 2 Bishops of Ireland have also fallen into apostasy, calling a sacred law that protects God from blashphemy obsolete and saying that decreasing Christian influence in a traditionally Catholic nation increases the social fabric of the country.

It would also have meant that you couldn't say that Islam is wrong, or Judaism is wrong, or Hinduism is wrong...

Speech is more important than your nonexistent God's pwecious fee-fees.

According to Wikipedia, blasphemy law in Ireland was originally limited to Christianity. And what God thinks is very important, because he is God so he should not be insulted.

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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2018, 02:05:14 pm »
Fuck your God.

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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2018, 02:36:19 pm »
Fuck your God.

On Judgement Day, God will remember you posted that.

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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2018, 02:55:02 pm »
It shows that the Vatican 2 Bishops of Ireland have also fallen into apostasy, calling a sacred law that protects God from blashphemy obsolete and saying that decreasing Christian influence in a traditionally Catholic nation increases the social fabric of the country.
I thought your god was supposed to be all-powerful. He's a rather weak prick if he needs protecting from people saying mean things about him.
It is not a beautiful sight to behold because while Christianity is decreasing, Islam is increasing so Christianity is needed to counter the threat of Islam.
The best way to counter superstitious bullshit is not with a slightly different brand of superstitious bullshit. It's with a minimal amount of rational thought. The very same thing that is eroding Christianity's power and privilege can and will keep Islam down, should those dickheads start getting uppity.

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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2018, 03:20:24 pm »
It shows that the Vatican 2 Bishops of Ireland have also fallen into apostasy, calling a sacred law that protects God from blashphemy obsolete and saying that decreasing Christian influence in a traditionally Catholic nation increases the social fabric of the country.
I thought your god was supposed to be all-powerful. He's a rather weak prick if he needs protecting from people saying mean things about him.
It is not a beautiful sight to behold because while Christianity is decreasing, Islam is increasing so Christianity is needed to counter the threat of Islam.
The best way to counter superstitious bullshit is not with a slightly different brand of superstitious bullshit. It's with a minimal amount of rational thought. The very same thing that is eroding Christianity's power and privilege can and will keep Islam down, should those dickheads start getting uppity.

1. God is all powerful and does not need protecting. He however does not want people saying bad things about him, so blasphemy against him should not be allowed.

2. Atheism has not had a good record at stopping the spread of Islam, while there are many cases of Muslims converting to Christianity, and more Christianity can cause people seeking spirituality to convert to Christianity instead of Islam.

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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2018, 03:24:12 pm »
1. God is all powerful and does not need protecting. He however does not want people saying bad things about him, so blasphemy against him should not be allowed.
As always, if he's bothered that much, he can at very least tell us himself.
2. Atheism has not had a good record at stopping the spread of Islam, while there are many cases of Muslims converting to Christianity, and more Christianity can cause people seeking spirituality to convert to Christianity instead of Islam.
Assuming that's true, so? You're replacing superstitious bullshit with slightly different superstitious bullshit. That's not a net gain for society by any stretch of the imagination.

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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2018, 03:32:44 pm »
1. God is all powerful and does not need protecting. He however does not want people saying bad things about him, so blasphemy against him should not be allowed.
As always, if he's bothered that much, he can at very least tell us himself.
2. Atheism has not had a good record at stopping the spread of Islam, while there are many cases of Muslims converting to Christianity, and more Christianity can cause people seeking spirituality to convert to Christianity instead of Islam.
Assuming that's true, so? You're replacing superstitious bullshit with slightly different superstitious bullshit. That's not a net gain for society by any stretch of the imagination.

1. God gives people free will to believe in him, so he will only prove himself if you agree to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord ad Savior and turn your life from sin.

2. It is a net gain because Islam is a religion of terrorism and misogyny.