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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #450 on: December 24, 2014, 09:58:11 pm »
Hell one of the witnesses was a lying bitch and was still allowed to talk to the grand jury.

Ironbite-this whole shit just shows how much these people value black lives.

Or lives in general.

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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #451 on: December 29, 2014, 01:25:26 am »
Hell one of the witnesses was a lying bitch and was still allowed to talk to the grand jury.

Ironbite-this whole shit just shows how much these people value black lives.

Or lives in general.

But mainly black lives.


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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #453 on: December 29, 2014, 05:10:47 am »
Geezum fuck, those articles are... worrying.
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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #454 on: December 29, 2014, 08:31:02 am »
Disturbing, but not surprising.  This is what happens with any elite caste, while there are some good eggs, the bastards in their ranks will walk all over anyone deemed beneath them and even those of their own caste that don't fit in.
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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #455 on: January 05, 2015, 07:08:57 pm »
Can't let this go now can I?  Big time update

Grand Juror Doe is suing Bob McCulloch over misrepresenting the case

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WASHINGTON -- A member of the grand jury that ultimately decided not to indict former Ferguson, Missouri, Police Officer Darren Wilson in the death of 18-year-old Michael Brown is suing the prosecuting attorney in St. Louis County, accusing Robert McCulloch of mischaracterizing the grand jury process.

The still-anonymous grand juror, referred to only as "Grand Juror Doe" in the lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Missouri, believes that his or her voice "could contribute to the current public dialogue concerning race relations" in the country. The grand juror believes that the Wilson case was handled much differently than the hundreds of other cases presented to the grand jury before the Wilson case.

"From Plaintiff's perspective, the presentation of evidence to the grand jury investigating Wilson differed markedly and in significant ways from how evidence was presented in the hundreds of matters presented to the grand jury earlier in its term," the lawsuit stated. The grand juror believes that the portrayal of the case in the media has not been accurate.

"In Plaintiff's view, the current information available about the grand jurors' views is not entirely accurate -- especially the implication that all grand jurors believed that there was no support for any charges," the lawsuit stated. "Moreover, the public characterization of the grand jurors' view of witnesses and evidence does not accord with Plaintiff's own."

The ACLU said the "life-time gag order" against grand jurors in the case is not fair in the Wilson case because of the extraordinary publicity Brown's death received and the strange way the case was presented.

"The Supreme Court has said that grand jury secrecy must be weighed against the juror's First Amendment rights on a case-by-case basis," ACLU of Missouri Legal Director Tony Rothert said in a statement. "The rules of secrecy must yield because this is a highly unusual circumstance. The First Amendment prevents the state from imposing a life-time gag order in cases where the prosecuting attorney has purported to be transparent."

Oh this is going to be great.  I mean it's gonna suck for McCulloch if they decide this guy has some merits and it will totally change the Grand Jury forever.

Ironbite-the better question is will McCulloch fall on his sword for Wilson?  I think the answer will be no.

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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #456 on: January 10, 2015, 05:21:35 pm »
Police throw a hissy fit protest the mayor saying racism exists by slowing down work and only arresting poeple when they have to.
Edit:http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/01/09/376174815/new-york-police-commissioner-confirms-work-slowdown-by-officers

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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #457 on: January 10, 2015, 06:20:20 pm »
And it's back fired so....so badly on them.

Ironbite-almost wish they'd keep this up.

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« Reply #458 on: January 11, 2015, 02:47:58 am »
I've read interviews with some of the low-income residents like in Bedford-Stuyvesant, and the general consensus is that the NYPD protest is actually very beneficial to them. The low-level charges the police aren't responding to (public urination, spitting/littering, traffic tickets, loitering, etc.) were all major parts of the extremely racist policing used to harass black and Latino citizens; the myriad regulations strewn throughout NYC for everything from congregating to riding a bicycle on the sidewalk allowed officers to legally stop and harass almost anyone they wanted to. By slowing down arrests and citations (as well as the stop-and-frisk policy), they've inadvertently created the best policing environment New York has had in years.
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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #459 on: January 11, 2015, 06:28:38 am »
And it's back fired so....so badly on them.

Ironbite-almost wish they'd keep this up.

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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #460 on: January 13, 2015, 02:16:05 am »
I've read interviews with some of the low-income residents like in Bedford-Stuyvesant, and the general consensus is that the NYPD protest is actually very beneficial to them. The low-level charges the police aren't responding to (public urination, spitting/littering, traffic tickets, loitering, etc.) were all major parts of the extremely racist policing used to harass black and Latino citizens; the myriad regulations strewn throughout NYC for everything from congregating to riding a bicycle on the sidewalk allowed officers to legally stop and harass almost anyone they wanted to. By slowing down arrests and citations (as well as the stop-and-frisk policy), they've inadvertently created the best policing environment New York has had in years.
So good all around?

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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #461 on: January 14, 2015, 12:05:46 pm »
I've read interviews with some of the low-income residents like in Bedford-Stuyvesant, and the general consensus is that the NYPD protest is actually very beneficial to them. The low-level charges the police aren't responding to (public urination, spitting/littering, traffic tickets, loitering, etc.) were all major parts of the extremely racist policing used to harass black and Latino citizens; the myriad regulations strewn throughout NYC for everything from congregating to riding a bicycle on the sidewalk allowed officers to legally stop and harass almost anyone they wanted to. By slowing down arrests and citations (as well as the stop-and-frisk policy), they've inadvertently created the best policing environment New York has had in years.
So good all around?

Pretty much. NYC actually has a very low crime rate for its size, so a lot of the NYPD's efforts go into "quality of life" crimes like people passed out drunk on the sidewalk or prostitution. Unfortunately, the NYPD happens to be extraordinarily racist and shady in a variety of other ways (at least one known prostitute was re-arrested purely because of her clothing being taken as evidence of solicitation and another who had no prior criminal record was arrested on the same cause, with condoms being taken as further "evidence"). Stop-and-frisk has literally been deemed unconstitutional, but it continues with Latino and black men taking almost the entirety of the hit.

There was a man in Brooklyn a few months ago who was suddenly shot and killed by an NYPD officer in some project housing. According to the officers on the scene, it's actually commonplace for them to patrol guns-out in areas with no reported crimes simply to check on the place. The shooter claims that he tried to open a door with his gun hand and accidentally pulled the 12-pound trigger on his regulation-modified pistol. That much is in question. It's not in question that he texted his union representative before doing anything else.
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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #462 on: January 14, 2015, 06:29:38 pm »
The carrying guns openly seem fairly genius in an Orwellian way.
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