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Re: "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America"
« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2012, 09:24:38 pm »
I reckon the video should be renamed to "This Is What Libertarians Actually Believe".

Or even better still, they could add it at the bottom of the screen.

Honestly, if vaccines and iodine are suppressing my ability to follow libertarian doublethink and self-glorification, then I'm all for brainwashing.

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No, it should be called "What Conspiracy Theorists Actually Believe." I'm a libertarian and I obviously don't believe any of this crap.

By "libertarian", I actually meant "stereotypical hardline registered member of the American Libertarian Party". Since "conservative" is often used in a very similar way (i.e the hardcore base of the conservative party, not everyone who ever voted for it), I thought it would be obvious. Still, it was horribly offensive to anyone who call themselves libertarian, and I apologise for this.

Trust me, I know the assholes you're talking about. At this point voting for a Libertarian Party candidate is just like throwing your vote away. The fact that people think Ron mothafuckin' Paul is a "libertarian" confounds me.

Apology accepted.  ;D Besides, that's a topic for another thread...
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Re: "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America"
« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2012, 09:54:20 pm »
This video is much better.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jZHNjc4Xk0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jZHNjc4Xk0</a>
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Re: "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America"
« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2012, 11:32:20 pm »
I barely got past the two minute mark where they were talking about the spelling.  Seriously wtf?  I only graduated high school like 5 years ago, and I don't remember even that young teachers not correcting my spelling.
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Re: "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America"
« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2012, 11:35:44 pm »
I got all the way thru the fucker...I had a feeling it was conspiracy bullshit from the beginning, but twas confirmed when they mentioned "fluoridation."  Any video or...fucking anything that mentions fluoridation in the context of being a bad thing is likely conspiracy bullshit.
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Re: "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America"
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2012, 03:01:29 pm »
You're going to laugh at this, I'm sure... but I learned a lot more about the Greek pantheon, as well as the stories attached to them, from playing the God of War series of games than I ever did in class. All we ever did in class was go rapidly through a dry listing of Greek gods/goddesses, what they represented, and then moved on to the culture of the civilization itself.
I don't see anything wrong with this... Greek mythology is a fascinating subject, sure, but it's not exactly vital information. Schools cannot cover every piece of fiction that had some measure of influence on modern culture. They can tell you that it exists, but if you want to really know about it you have to look it up on your own.
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Re: "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America"
« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2012, 03:46:56 pm »
You're going to laugh at this, I'm sure... but I learned a lot more about the Greek pantheon, as well as the stories attached to them, from playing the God of War series of games than I ever did in class. All we ever did in class was go rapidly through a dry listing of Greek gods/goddesses, what they represented, and then moved on to the culture of the civilization itself.
I don't see anything wrong with this... Greek mythology is a fascinating subject, sure, but it's not exactly vital information. Schools cannot cover every piece of fiction that had some measure of influence on modern culture. They can tell you that it exists, but if you want to really know about it you have to look it up on your own.

The high school I went to offered Mythology classes as part of the elective courses. They were a lot of fun but predominantly attended by female students because the teacher who got the classes in in the first place, and taught them, was a feminist and fairly liberal. She had a giant poster on her door that proclaimed "HERstory" and depictions of strong women in literature.

While it was never part of the actual course work it wasn't uncommon to end up with a lecture on homosexuality's depiction then and now when talking The Epic of Gilgamesh. Or discussing the culture of rape when we learned about Medusa. Hell, she's the first person I ever heard discuss how Medea's children might have lost their citizenship and been sold as slaves if Jason divorced her and how it could be viewed as more a mother not wanting her children to suffer than petty revenge.

Oooh, Or the teacher who taught Gothic Lit and who would just smile, shake her head, and ask us to keep the discussions about necrophilia to a minimum.

There are some great teachers out there but they often get bushwhacked. The cool mythology teacher? A guy who graduated two years after I did told me she was fired. The Gothic Lit teacher who encouraged us to view Frankenstein without our initial prejudices to better understand the "monster's" plight? She would often be heard telling people that all teachers become either jaded or crazy within seven years because of what the system does to them. And when she said that she was normally referring to the first year science teacher who ran fundraisers so his top scoring class could go on a field trip to see the dissection labs at a college in the state capital. He believed that as long as a class was getting done and performing well we should be given the freedom to work in the manner that suited us best, i.e. sometimes visitors would walk in and find Ben sprawled out across the floor on his stomach because he claimed lying down was more conducive to his studies than sitting. Ben had the best marks in class, so he might have been on to something. But, yeah, do you think the students appreciated him for what he did? Nope. A good portion of the male students gave him as hard a time as they could because he was most likely gay. Who bloody cares about that? Teachers that don't slap you into detention for calling them Tony the Tiger get a free pass.
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Re: "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America"
« Reply #36 on: January 22, 2012, 05:54:24 pm »
That...went somewhere.  Not sure where but it went somewhere.

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Re: "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America"
« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2012, 05:58:56 pm »
That...went somewhere.  Not sure where but it went somewhere.

tl;dr version for Ibby. Cool teachers who actually want to help their students get a rounded education and not just teach the text get punished. End result? Morons like this try to take over.

And, yeah, sorry. This is one of my ramble-y subjects because those three teachers were gold and they all either got punished or had to fly under the radar. Pushed a button.
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Re: "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America"
« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2012, 06:55:00 pm »

There is no such thing as "death ed." It sounds like something you'd be taught at Metallica Elementary School.


Why didn't they have that when I was in school?
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Re: "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America"
« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2012, 08:11:40 pm »
The spelling thing is bullshit. I remember spelling color "colour" once and it was still marked wrong.

Two of the major reasons why education in this nation is bad is because kids are taught what's on the test and because we try to cram 25+ kids into one classroom.

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Re: "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America"
« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2012, 08:14:13 pm »
The spelling thing is bullshit. I remember spelling color "colour" once and it was still marked wrong.

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Re: "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America"
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2012, 09:16:23 pm »

There is no such thing as "death ed." It sounds like something you'd be taught at Metallica Elementary School.


Why didn't they have that when I was in school?

In Kindergarten I was taught that the chicks and hamsters in our classroom would die, just like us.

I don't see the problem, it's just a fact of life.
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Re: "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America"
« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2012, 09:48:09 pm »

There is no such thing as "death ed." It sounds like something you'd be taught at Metallica Elementary School.


Why didn't they have that when I was in school?

In Kindergarten I was taught that the chicks and hamsters in our classroom would die, just like us.

I don't see the problem, it's just a fact of life.

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Re: "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America"
« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2012, 12:04:22 am »
The spelling thing is bullshit. I remember spelling color "colour" once and it was still marked wrong.

"Favourite" for me.

It's funny; I was raised in America, taught to spell American English, but I've been on the Internet so long I use color, colour, favorite, favourite, check, cheque, etc all interchangeably now.
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Re: "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America"
« Reply #44 on: January 23, 2012, 10:29:12 am »
It's funny; I was raised in America, taught to spell American English, but I've been on the Internet so long I use color, colour, favorite, favourite, check, cheque, etc all interchangeably now.

I was also raised in the US and taught American English, but for some reason over the last several years my spelling has been switching over to UK English. I've not really been using "tyre" and "cheque" yet, but even my vocabulary has been switching too (like calling my apartment a flat).

Growing up I used to be terrible at spelling. It took me a year to spell "of" correctly, as I kept trying to have it similar to "oven". In 11th grade I took a semester of French (college course, through post secondary enrolment option), and my English spelling drastically improved, so that come 12th grade a lot of people were asking me how to spell words in class.
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