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Christian Mingle ordered to accommodate gay singles
« on: July 04, 2016, 08:13:00 pm »
http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/christian-mingle-same-sex-dating-lgbt-lawsuit-california-1.3663871

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God-loving gay singles have won the right to mingle on the world's most popular Christian dating site — and every other faith-based matchmaking network owned by its parent company, following a California court ruling.

Spark Networks, which owns ChristianMingle, JDate, and LDSSingles.com ("the largest dating site by Mormons for Mormons"), first came under legal fire in 2013 after two gay men noticed that new members could only search for dates of the opposite sex.

In filing a class-action lawsuit, the men alleged that Spark was breaking California anti-discrimination laws by making it impossible for members of the LGBT community to use its services.

Same-sex Christian couples couldn't be matched through ChristianMingle because members couldn't register as gay in the first place.

Naturally, there's blowback:

https://twitter.com/lord_mykkel/status/749998986279391232

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http://townhall.com/tipsheet/ChristineRousselle/2016/07/03/christian-mingle-ordered-to-accept-gay-singles-n2186922
@chadfelixg another lgbt bully verdict When will people catch on that lgbt runs the New Jim crow?

https://twitter.com/caroline_stout/status/748955607286226944

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It's a direct assault on our religious liberty to demand @christianmingle accommodate men seeking men & women seeking women.

Disgraceful.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/religion-spirituality/2606546-dating-site-christianmingle-settles-discrimination-lawsuit-2.html

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Weird. I thought "Christian Mingle" was a website for Christians to mingle. I guess that's not allowed.
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Re: Christian Mingle ordered to accommodate gay singles
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2016, 09:06:58 pm »
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Re: Christian Mingle ordered to accommodate gay singles
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2016, 09:11:34 pm »
Personally, I'd rather they not be forced to accommodate gay people. The more people that Christians (and every other religion for that matter) alienate, the better.

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Re: Christian Mingle ordered to accommodate gay singles
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2016, 09:26:30 pm »
Personally, I'd rather they not be forced to accommodate gay people. The more people that Christians (and every other religion for that matter) alienate, the better.

Ah, beating the "religion is evil" drum again?  I could explain why that's a ludicrously simplistic viewpoint, but you'd probably just plug your ears.

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Re: Christian Mingle ordered to accommodate gay singles
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2016, 09:30:51 pm »
Personally, I'd rather they not be forced to accommodate gay people. The more people that Christians (and every other religion for that matter) alienate, the better.

Ah, beating the "religion is evil" drum again?  I could explain why that's a ludicrously simplistic viewpoint, but you'd probably just plug your ears.

Not "evil", but it is an inherently bad thing.

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Re: Christian Mingle ordered to accommodate gay singles
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2016, 09:34:42 pm »
Personally, I'd rather they not be forced to accommodate gay people. The more people that Christians (and every other religion for that matter) alienate, the better.

Ah, beating the "religion is evil" drum again?  I could explain why that's a ludicrously simplistic viewpoint, but you'd probably just plug your ears.

Not "evil", but it is an inherently bad thing.

How so?

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Re: Christian Mingle ordered to accommodate gay singles
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2016, 09:43:26 pm »
Personally, I'd rather they not be forced to accommodate gay people. The more people that Christians (and every other religion for that matter) alienate, the better.

Ah, beating the "religion is evil" drum again?  I could explain why that's a ludicrously simplistic viewpoint, but you'd probably just plug your ears.

Not "evil", but it is an inherently bad thing.

How so?
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Re: Christian Mingle ordered to accommodate gay singles
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2016, 09:47:21 pm »
Anyway, this is dumb because it assumes you can't be gay and Christian.

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Re: Christian Mingle ordered to accommodate gay singles
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2016, 09:48:35 pm »
Anyway, this is dumb because it assumes you can't be gay and Christian.

Which one? Christian Mingle's policy or the court order?
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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: Christian Mingle ordered to accommodate gay singles
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2016, 09:50:28 pm »
Anyway, this is dumb because it assumes you can't be gay and Christian.

Which one? Christian Mingle's policy or the court order?

The former, obviously.

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Re: Christian Mingle ordered to accommodate gay singles
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2016, 10:08:10 pm »
Personally, I'd rather they not be forced to accommodate gay people. The more people that Christians (and every other religion for that matter) alienate, the better.

Ah, beating the "religion is evil" drum again?  I could explain why that's a ludicrously simplistic viewpoint, but you'd probably just plug your ears.

Not "evil", but it is an inherently bad thing.

How so?
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Re: Christian Mingle ordered to accommodate gay singles
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2016, 10:12:24 pm »
Anyway, this is dumb because it assumes you can't be gay and Christian.

Which one? Christian Mingle's policy or the court order?

The former, obviously.

Sorry, I was distracted while replying and derped.
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It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: Christian Mingle ordered to accommodate gay singles
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2016, 01:15:47 am »
That makes me nervous. Its their own site, just dont use it.
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Re: Christian Mingle ordered to accommodate gay singles
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2016, 02:58:58 am »
That makes me nervous. Its their own site, just dont use it.

Or, if you offer a service, you offer it to everyone equally or not at all.
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It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: Christian Mingle ordered to accommodate gay singles
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2016, 03:09:11 am »
That makes me nervous. Its their own site, just dont use it.

Or, if you offer a service, you offer it to everyone equally or not at all.

Honestly? I don't agree. Private companies have the right to refuse service to anyone they choose, and I don't think a court order should be able to force otherwise. It's a private business, after all. I mean, would you feel the same way if, say, some social justice activists decided to set up a dating service where straight people couldn't apply, and they sued and won the right to force this dating service to accommodate them?

Basically, what I'm saying is, "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" shouldn't have an asterisk saying "except marginalized groups".
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