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An actual, unarguable issue of ethics in journalism
« on: December 13, 2015, 03:54:34 pm »
So, what does everyone think of the whole mainstream news media essentially ransacking the home of the San Benardino suspects on live tv? I think it was despicable, honestly. They fucking held driver's licenses up tothe camera. Live. What the fuck!?
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Re: An actual, unarguable issue of ethics in journalism
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2015, 04:07:42 pm »
They're becoming more and more like 19th century touts. In the race to get clicks and ratings with blood, outrage, or in this case, pseudo investigative voyeurism, all thoughts of common courtesy, common sense, common decency be damned.
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Re: An actual, unarguable issue of ethics in journalism
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2015, 04:34:07 pm »
It's disgraceful.

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Re: An actual, unarguable issue of ethics in journalism
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2015, 04:43:20 pm »
See now this is actual ethics in journalism.  Not what Goobly Gook is.  An ethical reporter wouldn't have gone into anyone's home and messed around with a crime scene.  They would've shot footage of an on site reporter from the front lawn at closest and from the sidewalk and farthest.  But no, now it's all about ratings.

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Re: An actual, unarguable issue of ethics in journalism
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2015, 07:31:54 pm »
And then people wonder why I don't watch TV news.
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Re: An actual, unarguable issue of ethics in journalism
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2015, 07:30:45 am »
Journalists are going to be untrustworthy and unethical by default.  It's practically in the job description.

The real question here is "where the fuck are the police?".  That shit has got to be illegal even in 'murica.


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Re: An actual, unarguable issue of ethics in journalism
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2015, 09:06:14 am »
The LEOs had already torn through the apartment to seize evidence. When they were done, they left it unsecured by handing possession back to the landlord. Who then caved in to the whining (or perhaps bribery?) of a herd of reporters. The female shooter's mother's ID was shown on camera by an MSNBC reporter, amongst other things. Just FUBAR.
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Re: An actual, unarguable issue of ethics in journalism
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2015, 09:13:46 am »
Conty, stop being agreeable.  ...Because journalism hasn't been honest for generations.  I'm more surprised that this actually got reported on, I'd have figured they'd have buried it like everything else even remotely shameful.
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Re: An actual, unarguable issue of ethics in journalism
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2015, 09:24:30 am »
The MSNBC debacle was broadcast live. TV reporters have unique opportunities to fuck up and then their producers (who are directing them live via earpiece the whole time) say, "Ooops! Our bad. We'll reprimand the reporter."
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Re: An actual, unarguable issue of ethics in journalism
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2015, 09:26:20 am »
Saying that this is part of job description for journalists is like saying that it's ok for politicians to take bribes since many of them do.

Besides journalism isn't this bad all over the world.
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Re: An actual, unarguable issue of ethics in journalism
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2015, 10:25:34 am »
Saying that this is part of job description for journalists is like saying that it's ok for politicians to take bribes since many of them do.

Besides journalism isn't this bad all over the world.
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Re: An actual, unarguable issue of ethics in journalism
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2015, 11:45:55 am »
Saying that this is part of job description for journalists is like saying that it's ok for politicians to take bribes since many of them do.

Besides journalism isn't this bad all over the world.

Never said it was OK.  Just saying that it's a profession that appeals to amoral subhumans by its' very nature.


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Re: An actual, unarguable issue of ethics in journalism
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2015, 12:17:14 pm »
Not really. I know a few Journalists and politicians and they aren't all bad.
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Re: An actual, unarguable issue of ethics in journalism
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2015, 12:37:06 pm »
Journalists are going to be untrustworthy and unethical by default.  It's practically in the job description.

The real question here is "where the fuck are the police?".  That shit has got to be illegal even in 'murica.

i totally get the first sentence. but why the hell would you call the cops on them? they're just as crooked! i almost completely agreed with you on this one.

Saying that this is part of job description for journalists is like saying that it's ok for politicians to take bribes since many of them do.

Besides journalism isn't this bad all over the world.

... uh, um... not quite. journalists are professionnal shit-stirrers. sometimes, that happens to be useful. regarding politicians, nope not ok.

i guess i must give credit to finnish journalists if you say that, because journalism is a byword for corruption and a total lack of ethics over here.
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Re: An actual, unarguable issue of ethics in journalism
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2015, 12:50:08 pm »
Journalists are going to be untrustworthy and unethical by default.  It's practically in the job description.

The real question here is "where the fuck are the police?".  That shit has got to be illegal even in 'murica.

i totally get the first sentence. but why the hell would you call the cops on them? they're just as crooked! i almost completely agreed with you on this one.

Whether Conty was talking about crime scene security or that this was truly an invasion of a private home - in this case, part of the estate of the deceased until probate releases it to an heir, or releases it to a state asset seizure action - he had a good point.

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