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Church bans children to keep pedo pastor
« on: February 25, 2012, 12:49:32 pm »
http://clergygonewild.com/sex-abuse/34-child-abuse/1424--florida-church-bans-children-to-keep-pedophile-pastor

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A church in Jacksonville, Florida is coming under fire for its controversial decision to ban children from its church services.
According to a local Jacksonville news affiliate, Christ Tabernacle Missionary Baptist Church has banned children from attending Sunday services because their new pastor, Darrell Gilyard, is a registered sex offender and cannot have contact with children.



Note: The blog links to other news source to verify it.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2012, 12:54:40 pm by gyeonghwa »
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Re: Church bans children to keep pedo pastor
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2012, 01:09:40 pm »
Well if it keeps children from being indoctrinated I'm all for it.

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Re: Church bans children to keep pedo pastor
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2012, 01:12:06 pm »
I do have to admit that he's right here:
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“Somehow I will prove that life isn’t over when one has committed a crime for which he receives this heinous label,” Gilyard told a reporter, ironically through text message. “You don’t have to languish on the fringes of society.”

Thing is, the children being able to attend service takes a higher priority than accomodating him. Why couldn't that pastor have found some seniors' community to take over, with children nowhere in sight.
Also, he doesn't sound particularly remorseful. 'a crime for which he receives this heinous label'.
That said, I've stopped trying to anticipate what people around here want a while ago, I've found it makes things smoother.
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Re: Church bans children to keep pedo pastor
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2012, 01:20:16 pm »
What was the crime that got him on the registry? The more I hear about it, the more sympathy I have for the people on it. You can be registered as a sex offender for some fairly mundane stuff Technicslly, I doubt there are many people who havn't done something that could get them registered if the wrong police officer happened by at the wrong moment.

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In 2009 Gilyard plead guilty to lewd conduct and lewd molestation of two underage girls. While he was the pastor of Shiloh Baptist Church Gilyard molested a 15-year-old girl and sent a lewd text message to another. Under the conditions of his plea agreement, Gilyard cannot have “unsupervised contact with children under 18 years old,” and his new church has taken extraordinary steps to help Gilyard stick to the terms of his deal

From article. But I  still don't think the best way to deal with these sorts of offenders is to force them to the fringes of society, so, counter intuitively, and against my original WTF reaction, I'm going to say good on the church for giiving the guy a chance. Christian forgiveness, doing it right, maybe.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2012, 01:23:17 pm by Podkayne »
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Re: Church bans children to keep pedo pastor
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2012, 01:21:59 pm »
The crime was written in the article o.O

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In 2009 Gilyard plead guilty to lewd conduct and lewd molestation of two underage girls
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Re: Church bans children to keep pedo pastor
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2012, 01:51:32 pm »
What boggles my mind is that people still go to this church.

As for this "second chance," I'm sure they could find something for him to do that doesn't say, "Fuck everyone else!"

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Re: Church bans children to keep pedo pastor
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2012, 02:08:22 pm »
What was the crime that got him on the registry? The more I hear about it, the more sympathy I have for the people on it. You can be registered as a sex offender for some fairly mundane stuff Technicslly, I doubt there are many people who havn't done something that could get them registered if the wrong police officer happened by at the wrong moment.

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In 2009 Gilyard plead guilty to lewd conduct and lewd molestation of two underage girls. While he was the pastor of Shiloh Baptist Church Gilyard molested a 15-year-old girl and sent a lewd text message to another. Under the conditions of his plea agreement, Gilyard cannot have “unsupervised contact with children under 18 years old,” and his new church has taken extraordinary steps to help Gilyard stick to the terms of his deal

From article. But I  still don't think the best way to deal with these sorts of offenders is to force them to the fringes of society, so, counter intuitively, and against my original WTF reaction, I'm going to say good on the church for giiving the guy a chance. Christian forgiveness, doing it right, maybe.

I have to agree with you here - if we are not going to kill the people on that registry they should be able to have some sort of life within society.

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Re: Church bans children to keep pedo pastor
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2012, 03:05:01 pm »
The hell with him and his so-called debt to society.  He didn't take out a loan at Suntrust; he molested two kids!  Oh and here's from a member of the church:


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Rev. E Russel Brearley

 
A Baptist Church is a Church with Doctrines and Principals nearest to a New Testament Church according to the Scriptures as they were originally inspired. A Baptist Church is responsible to God alone and not to any person or earthly power. And the Baptist individuale is responsible to God alone and not to any other person or earthly power.
 It is God moving through the members of a Baptist Church who calls a man to serve as Pastor. And it is God moving in the man toward accepting the call. A Pastor is not 'hired". He is called by God.
 It is entirely appropriate that Christ Tabernacle Missionary Baptist Church called Darrell Gilyard to be Pastor.
 The Church is not the first and not the only Baptist Church where a man with a similar background had been called to be Pastor. A few years ago a young man became Pastor at a Baptist Church in Illinois awile after beng released from prison.
 However he was not restricted from being around children and children were allowed at Church.
 It is a good thing when parents teach there children in the home. There have not always been Sunday schools and youth groups in Churches. And there should be no problem holding Sunday school in homes and at other times than at Church when the Pastor is present - if that is so desired.
 Darrell Gilyard is not a pedophile.The word is being misused. A pedophile is always a person with a sexual attraction to children who have not yet reached the age of puberty.
 A person under the age of 18 but above the age of puberty is not a child in the same sense as a person past puberty. They are a teenager, youth, or young adult
 Secular laws that lable all young people under 18 years of age children without differentiating are not appropriate and should be changed.
 Many Churches have what may be called " A Safe Church Policy." Children are not allowed in Church where two adults are not present at the same time. It is not only to protect children but to protect Pastors, staff and Church leaders from false accusations as well - and Church property. Churches carry liability insurance that can be less expensive when there is a Safe Church Policy.
 The calling the man to serve as Pastor is a matter for the Church, the candidate fr Pastor and God alone.


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Re: Church bans children to keep pedo pastor
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2012, 03:10:11 pm »
That explins why people still go there. They are egomaniacal dickheads who think everyone else exists just to eat their bullshit & tell them it's delicious.

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Re: Church bans children to keep pedo pastor
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2012, 03:33:01 pm »
Seriously.  He molested two kids.  Let me repeat until I'm blue in the face.  HE MOLESTED TWO KIDS!  To me that's a very unforgiveable crime.

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Re: Church bans children to keep pedo pastor
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2012, 03:34:34 pm »
He shouldn't be allowed to be a pastor anymore...

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Re: Church bans children to keep pedo pastor
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2012, 03:45:31 pm »
What was the crime that got him on the registry? The more I hear about it, the more sympathy I have for the people on it. You can be registered as a sex offender for some fairly mundane stuff Technicslly, I doubt there are many people who havn't done something that could get them registered if the wrong police officer happened by at the wrong moment.

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In 2009 Gilyard plead guilty to lewd conduct and lewd molestation of two underage girls. While he was the pastor of Shiloh Baptist Church Gilyard molested a 15-year-old girl and sent a lewd text message to another. Under the conditions of his plea agreement, Gilyard cannot have “unsupervised contact with children under 18 years old,” and his new church has taken extraordinary steps to help Gilyard stick to the terms of his deal

From article. But I  still don't think the best way to deal with these sorts of offenders is to force them to the fringes of society, so, counter intuitively, and against my original WTF reaction, I'm going to say good on the church for giiving the guy a chance. Christian forgiveness, doing it right, maybe.

Give him a second chance by telling the congregation that they aren't wanted? How does that make sense to you.

If you're going to give some one a second chance, the wrong way is to say fuck you to everyone else. That's what the church did.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2012, 03:57:31 pm by gyeonghwa »
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Re: Church bans children to keep pedo pastor
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2012, 07:11:32 pm »
Podkayne... are you seriously standing up for a child molester? Look, it was a (short) walk to call nickerson a rape apologist, but even in your OWN FUCKING POST, you admit that he molested two children, AND YOU SYMPATHIZE.

What was the crime that got him on the registry? The more I hear about it, the more sympathy I have for the people on it. You can be registered as a sex offender for some fairly mundane stuff Technicslly, I doubt there are many people who havn't done something that could get them registered if the wrong police officer happened by at the wrong moment.

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In 2009 Gilyard plead guilty to lewd conduct and lewd molestation of two underage girls. While he was the pastor of Shiloh Baptist Church Gilyard molested a 15-year-old girl and sent a lewd text message to another. Under the conditions of his plea agreement, Gilyard cannot have “unsupervised contact with children under 18 years old,” and his new church has taken extraordinary steps to help Gilyard stick to the terms of his deal

From article. But I  still don't think the best way to deal with these sorts of offenders is to force them to the fringes of society, so, counter intuitively, and against my original WTF reaction, I'm going to say good on the church for giiving the guy a chance. Christian forgiveness, doing it right, maybe.
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Re: Church bans children to keep pedo pastor
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2012, 07:45:23 pm »
Meh, as long as he is away from kids I don't care how they set it up.

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Re: Church bans children to keep pedo pastor
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2012, 07:47:43 pm »
I really couldn't care less if he's still pastor. Who cares if a child molester tells a bunch of people unless they accept his loving god this same loving god will send them to Hell? It isn't like they're letting him be a teacher. He's just continuing telling the same bullshit he has been for years.

I wish more churches would do this, so we know the ones that are super sucky.