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Community => Religion and Philosophy => Topic started by: Stormwarden on October 01, 2015, 09:58:18 pm
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http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/10/01/extremist-behind-bogus-planned-parenthood-videos-arrested-trying-to-sneak-into-australia-video/
Not sure about source material, so some verification is nice. The Aussies took one look at his background, and refused him entry. He tried to get in anyway. He's (Troy Newman) one of the masterminds behind the "undercover tapes" against Planned Parenthood that the teabaggers have been fussing over in Congress. Hope they lock him up.
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HAH!
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Can't say I feel sorry for him.
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I hope he somehow gets to, ah, meet Katherine Knight.
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I must say, we've got a rather sweet deal going. American loonies are banned from even visiting, while our own loonies are allowed to move to the states and become their problem. It's like America is the 1st world's fundie dumping ground.
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At least there's some sanity left "Down Under".
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Possibly unaware of the irony involved in committing a crime to enter Australia.
*chuckles*
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(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/fc/61/72/fc61725508a79629ab58a6bfacbea9f9.jpg)
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In the future, it might be good to cite a reliable source before bringing the news before the peanut gallery. You don't want to turn into Ultimate Paragon.
Like, perhaps, The New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/03/world/asia/troy-newman-operation-rescue-australia-deport.html?_r=0).
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In the future, it might be good to cite a reliable source before bringing the news before the peanut gallery. You don't want to turn into Ultimate Paragon.
Like, perhaps, The New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/03/world/asia/troy-newman-operation-rescue-australia-deport.html?_r=0).
His first line was he wasn't sure and wanted verification. Hardly the damming evidence of our resident Ulitmate Paradox.
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^And this was made in October of last year. Keep an eye on the posting date. That said, I appreciate the advice, but I'm no more Ultimate Paragon than I am The Contrarian (I think little of both, and try to keep my distance when possible).
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Holy thread necromancing, Batman!
My mistake.
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Nope, it was Conty that necro'd. He had not been active for a while, and this one he couldn't resist posting a joke in.
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'twas worth it for a little jab at our antipodean scouser cousins.
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As for you Contrarian, here's a little truth for you to choke on: I simply follow an old cowboy saying when I choose not to approach you or Ultimate Paragon: "Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from either direction."
^You can work out what I think of either of you for yourselves. And that's all I have to say about either of you.
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Animal metaphors are part of native american culture, stop appropriating it.
You'll be doing raindances next, you sicken me.
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So sorry, I've said my piece, Contrarian. Now run back to your little bridge with UP.
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There there, being australian is a *choice*. You don't HAVE to wear the silly hat with the corks, it's all very modern these days, apparently...
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True, you don't have to. But it's very strongly encouraged nonetheless.
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^I've made it clear that I have no interest in speaking with the you or UP. It's not my job to spare your feelings. Right. I'll be going back to the politics thread, not that there's anything of consequence in chat atm.
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So Contrarian, where are you going to move to when Corbin becomes Prime Minister?
I take it you won't be coming here.
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London.
Because logic. I lived, until recently, in sight of the largest naval base in western europe. That's a prime target when the big war comes and Corbyn's CND bullshit has left us defenceless in the exchange of cleansing nuclear fire.
London is also in the firing line but at least I can amuse myself in the meantime by joining "The Party" before they hand out the torturing and purging duties. You leftist sheep have no idea how much fun it'll be for me when you're all herded into the gulag and i'm the one holding the whip.
But hey, you voted for it, not me. I'm just the opportunist making sure you get everything you sold your souls and everyone else's tax revenues for...
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Niam, do you have a sock puppet account name starting with a "C"? Like, for practicing dialog writing in one of the short stories or plays you've been working on lately?
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"T"
Maybe should have taken remedial literacy instead of Marx appreciation.
Anyway, Vote Corbyn! We are the Bolsheviks 99%!
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Niam, do you have a sock puppet account name starting with a "C"? Like, for practicing dialog writing in one of the short stories or plays you've been working on lately?
If so, he should take a creative writing class.
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Hey, he's right you know. It's but one small step from universal healthcare and higher education to concentration camps and nuclear world war. I read it somewhere once, so it must be true.
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Hey, he's right you know. It's but one small step from universal healthcare and higher education to concentration camps and nuclear world war. I read it somewhere once, so it must be true.
Yes, crazy populist lefties are pretty good at promising expensive freebies to the masses in order to get elected. It's once you let them in that the real fun starts, coupled with the fact you probably won't get the chance to vote them out again.
At best you end up like present-day Venezuela, at worst, well the 20th century would like a word with you.
Voting for a party led by a guy still championing the same crappy far-left policies that were awful in the 70s is not a step forward unless you REEAAAALLY enjoy queuing half a day for toilet paper or being jailed for "Counter-Revolutionary Activities".
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Hey, he's right you know. It's but one small step from universal healthcare and higher education to concentration camps and nuclear world war. I read it somewhere once, so it must be true.
Yes, crazy populist lefties are pretty good at promising expensive freebies to the masses in order to get elected. It's once you let them in that the real fun starts, coupled with the fact you probably won't get the chance to vote them out again.
At best you end up like present-day Venezuela, at worst, well the 20th century would like a word with you.
Voting for a party led by a guy still championing the same crappy far-left policies that were awful in the 70s is not a step forward unless you REEAAAALLY enjoy queuing half a day for toilet paper or being jailed for "Counter-Revolutionary Activities".
Said by the chap hailing from the land of the NHS which has yet to sink under the Atlantic under the weight of such government largesse.
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Said by the chap hailing from the land of the NHS which has yet to sink under the Atlantic under the weight of such government largesse.
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They might actually be starting to sink -- from the weight of all the security cameras.
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Hey, he's right you know. It's but one small step from universal healthcare and higher education to concentration camps and nuclear world war. I read it somewhere once, so it must be true.
Yes, crazy populist lefties are pretty good at promising expensive freebies to the masses in order to get elected. It's once you let them in that the real fun starts, coupled with the fact you probably won't get the chance to vote them out again.
At best you end up like present-day Venezuela, at worst, well the 20th century would like a word with you.
Voting for a party led by a guy still championing the same crappy far-left policies that were awful in the 70s is not a step forward unless you REEAAAALLY enjoy queuing half a day for toilet paper or being jailed for "Counter-Revolutionary Activities".
Said by the chap hailing from the land of the NHS which has yet to sink under the Atlantic under the weight of such government largesse.
Odd that, we managed to get the giveaways and freebies that socialists use as the gateway drug before the repression starts, without actually going full "mass starvation and death camps" as was the fashion in Southeast Asia at the time...
But then we've only had two proper leftists in charge since 1951, so the plans for collectivisation have been put on hold for the duration. Not that they didn't try it on during the Wilson and Callaghan years, mind.
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Odd that, we managed to get the giveaways and freebies that socialists use as the gateway drug before the repression starts, without actually going full "mass starvation and death camps" as was the fashion in Southeast Asia at the time...
But then we've only had two proper leftists in charge since 1951, so the plans for collectivisation have been put on hold for the duration. Not that they didn't try it on during the Wilson and Callaghan years, mind.
You still have public infrastructure that people like you would merrily rip up that gets labelled "socialist" in the US of A.
The fact your island retains public broadcasting, public housing, a welfare safety net and public health insurance demonstrates that while most Britons may not be Maoists they still wouldn't embrace the American style "free market" anytime soon.
Maybe they "hate freedom", who was it that was barking that not so long ago?
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Odd that, we managed to get the giveaways and freebies that socialists use as the gateway drug before the repression starts, without actually going full "mass starvation and death camps" as was the fashion in Southeast Asia at the time...
Well, yeah. Exactly.
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Odd that, we managed to get the giveaways and freebies that socialists use as the gateway drug before the repression starts, without actually going full "mass starvation and death camps" as was the fashion in Southeast Asia at the time...
Well, yeah. Exactly.
Point is, it's mainly due to timely interventions of the electorate removing pernicious socialists from power in the nick of time.
Discounting Blair and Brown we've only had two periods of Labour governance since Clement Attlee and it's been the same story both times...rampant trade unionism, winters spent without power and heating due to strikes etc; nationalised utilities, nationalised mines that were kept open at taxpayers expense long after they were unprofitable.
Thankfully we got rid of them when we had the chance, I hate to think what a state we'd be in otherwise. Probably something venezuela-ey.
And now Corbyn supporters want a return to that shit.
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You leftist sheep have no idea how much fun it'll be for me when you're all herded into the gulag and i'm the one holding the whip.
You wouldn't send *me* to a gulag, though.
Right, Contrarian?
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This has gone far enough and you have forced me to react to this: Mr C doesn't really believe what he is saying. He is just trolling you. At first I did wonder if he really was serious but like in most of his comments he is merely being a contrarian, which should have been obvious, and trying to pick something that will make people angry.
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So, in essence, he's being a giant dick and he should be banned?
I'll believe it when I see it.
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So, in essence, he's being a giant dick and he should be banned?
I'll believe it when I see it.
Conformity is purity. Don't think, BELIEVE. Your masters have told you it's best if we all agree.
Now go, that failed harvest won't pick itself...
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So, in essence, he's being a giant dick and he should be banned?
I'll believe it when I see it.
I thought he should've been shown the door the moment it was out that he was a troll. Course, I don't tolerate trolls under any circumstances, so I might be a bit of a hardass, in that regard.
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Oh, please. He's a much more interesting chew toy than a certain someone we all are tired of.
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Oh, please. He's a much more interesting chew toy than a certain someone we all are tired of.
Never really got the chewtoy thing, if I'm being perfectly honest. If you get a troll, you laugh at it, mock it, then get rid of it. The only purpose they should serve is to fill out the ban list.
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This has gone far enough and you have forced me to react to this: Mr C doesn't really believe what he is saying. He is just trolling you. At first I did wonder if he really was serious but like in most of his comments he is merely being a contrarian, which should have been obvious, and trying to pick something that will make people angry.
That's the difference between Mr Conty and the other chewtoy. That chap is completely earnest and believes what he does with every fibre of his being, even (maybe especially) the bits that contradict each other.
Not so with Contrarian, he's just drunkenly tossing poop and loving it. The username makes it bloody obvious, it's right there on the tin!
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This has gone far enough and you have forced me to react to this: Mr C doesn't really believe what he is saying. He is just trolling you. At first I did wonder if he really was serious but like in most of his comments he is merely being a contrarian, which should have been obvious, and trying to pick something that will make people angry.
That's the difference between Mr Conty and the other chewtoy. That chap is completely earnest and believes what he does with every fibre of his being, even (maybe especially) the bits that contradict each other.
Not so with Contrarian, he's just drunkenly tossing poop and loving it. The username makes it bloody obvious, it's right there on the tin!
That's the reason I don't mind UP, sometimes I even like him. We may disagree with things but at least I know that he isn't just picking his responses purely based on what would make his target audience angry. (Well, I would like UP more if he didn't run away from arguments when he's losing instead of admitting defeat and actually debated honestly.)
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This has gone far enough and you have forced me to react to this: Mr C doesn't really believe what he is saying. He is just trolling you. At first I did wonder if he really was serious but like in most of his comments he is merely being a contrarian, which should have been obvious, and trying to pick something that will make people angry.
If you find yourself getting murderously enraged by criticisms of socialism you should maybe reconsider the direction your life is taking.
Unless you actively aspire to storming a student protest with a tank column.
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This has gone far enough and you have forced me to react to this: Mr C doesn't really believe what he is saying. He is just trolling you. At first I did wonder if he really was serious but like in most of his comments he is merely being a contrarian, which should have been obvious, and trying to pick something that will make people angry.
If you find yourself getting murderously enraged by criticisms of socialism you should maybe reconsider the direction your life is taking.
Unless you actively aspire to storming a student protest with a tank column.
Could we compromise and storm the Vatican with a tank column, instead? It'd be much more entertaining.
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This has gone far enough and you have forced me to react to this: Mr C doesn't really believe what he is saying. He is just trolling you. At first I did wonder if he really was serious but like in most of his comments he is merely being a contrarian, which should have been obvious, and trying to pick something that will make people angry.
If you find yourself getting murderously enraged by criticisms of socialism you should maybe reconsider the direction your life is taking.
Unless you actively aspire to storming a student protest with a tank column.
Could we compromise and storm the Vatican with a tank column, instead? It'd be much more entertaining.
I think the Swiss Guards may be slightly tank proof.
They look like the medieval version of Tesla troopers.
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This has gone far enough and you have forced me to react to this: Mr C doesn't really believe what he is saying. He is just trolling you. At first I did wonder if he really was serious but like in most of his comments he is merely being a contrarian, which should have been obvious, and trying to pick something that will make people angry.
If you find yourself getting murderously enraged by criticisms of socialism you should maybe reconsider the direction your life is taking.
Unless you actively aspire to storming a student protest with a tank column.
Could we compromise and storm the Vatican with a tank column, instead? It'd be much more entertaining.
I think the Swiss Guards may be slightly tank proof.
They look like the medieval version of Tesla troopers.
Pssh, pot metal against an Abrams, I'll throw my lot in with the Abrams.
Unless we're talking about Civilization, where a tank can, somehow, be taken out by a Stone Age warrior with a club.
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This has gone far enough and you have forced me to react to this: Mr C doesn't really believe what he is saying. He is just trolling you. At first I did wonder if he really was serious but like in most of his comments he is merely being a contrarian, which should have been obvious, and trying to pick something that will make people angry.
If you find yourself getting murderously enraged by criticisms of socialism you should maybe reconsider the direction your life is taking.
Unless you actively aspire to storming a student protest with a tank column.
Could we compromise and storm the Vatican with a tank column, instead? It'd be much more entertaining.
I think the Swiss Guards may be slightly tank proof.
They look like the medieval version of Tesla troopers.
Only one way to find out, eh?
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This has gone far enough and you have forced me to react to this: Mr C doesn't really believe what he is saying. He is just trolling you. At first I did wonder if he really was serious but like in most of his comments he is merely being a contrarian, which should have been obvious, and trying to pick something that will make people angry.
If you find yourself getting murderously enraged by criticisms of socialism you should maybe reconsider the direction your life is taking.
Unless you actively aspire to storming a student protest with a tank column.
Could we compromise and storm the Vatican with a tank column, instead? It'd be much more entertaining.
Why not both? I mean, there's gotta be students at the Vatican. And I'm sure European students squish as nicely as their Chinese counterparts.
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Nah, leave the students be...if nothing else, they can be deprogrammed.
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I'm not unreasonable. Let's take it on a case by case basis depending on what they're studying.
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I don't think what they are studying is a reliable way of deciding whether they are salvageable or not. The pope himself has an education in chemistry and the Vatican employs priests who are also actual scientists. We need to either have thorough - probably even enhanced - interrogations or just squish them all to be sure.
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Alright, fine! Conty, when you're done squishing folks the Vatican, I'll want to bring it to Oral Roberts University for student squashing.
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I like to think I have more class than to create a sockpuppet and sew a thoroughly bizarre, Glenn Beck's The Overton Window-esque story of squalor brought on by loosely correlation-based events.
I HAVE been taking creative writing classes, and the story Contrarian has spun here strikes me as insulting to the readers' intelligence and without nuance - classic reactionary fantasy of "I'm one hundred percent right and everything I don't agree with is of the Devil / Socialism / Communism".