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Congress on Track to Make Boycotting Israel Illegal
« on: September 08, 2017, 12:39:39 am »
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Members of Congress are currently considering a bill that threatens to silence the growing support for the boycott, divestment and sanctions movement for Palestinian freedom and human rights, known as B.D.S. This draconian bill, the Israel Anti-Boycott Act, threatens individuals and businesses who actively participate in boycott campaigns in support of Palestinian rights conducted by international governmental organizations with up to 20 years in prison and a $1,000,000 fine.

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Long story short, Congress wants to make expressing your free speech in support of Palestianian rights illegal, with up to 20 years of jail time as punishment. No matter what your opinions on Israel are, this should shock and scare you. This is literally Congress dictating that holding a certain political view is against the law, and will be punished with jail time. This is utterly atrocious.
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Re: Congress on Track to Make Boycotting Israel Illegal
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2017, 12:53:25 am »
Any sign the Dems give a shit or they staying quiet on this one?

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Re: Congress on Track to Make Boycotting Israel Illegal
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2017, 01:41:49 am »
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this passed with overwhelming bipartisan support.
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Re: Congress on Track to Make Boycotting Israel Illegal
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2017, 01:46:10 am »
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this passed with overwhelming bipartisan support.

And then within a month is taken to court because a clearer violation of the First Amendment I do not see.
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2017, 01:56:33 am »
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this passed with overwhelming bipartisan support.

And then within a month is taken to court because a clearer violation of the First Amendment I do not see.

Remember when Trump said that he would be neutral on Israel-Palestine (i.e. actually said something reasonable)? He immediately switched to being 1100000% in favour of Israel as soon as the establishment gave him flack. In the DC-New York bubble, you ARE NOT ALLOWED to be against Israel. Period.
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Re: Congress on Track to Make Boycotting Israel Illegal
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2017, 07:31:44 am »
I'm getting Alien and Sedition Act vibes, here...
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Re: Congress on Track to Make Boycotting Israel Illegal
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2017, 09:56:09 am »
Far as I know this hasn't gotten any traction as the saner members of the Republican party know what a shit storm it would bring.

Ironbite-what with that whole First Amendment thing they hate so much.

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Re: Congress on Track to Make Boycotting Israel Illegal
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2017, 10:54:17 am »
Far as I know this hasn't gotten any traction as the saner members of the Republican party know what a shit storm it would bring.

Ironbite-what with that whole First Amendment thing they hate so much.

I honestly hope that is the case. But I don't really have any faith in the federal government on many issues, and this is definitely one of them. Better that this bill be dragged into the limelight so that people can properly see what some of their Congresspeople are trying to pass.
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Re: Congress on Track to Make Boycotting Israel Illegal
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2017, 11:39:46 am »
Far as I know this hasn't gotten any traction as the saner members of the Republican party know what a shit storm it would bring.

Ironbite-what with that whole First Amendment thing they hate so much.

I honestly hope that is the case. But I don't really have any faith in the federal government on many issues, and this is definitely one of them. Better that this bill be dragged into the limelight so that people can properly see what some of their Congresspeople are trying to pass.

Good idea. Let's try and kill this atrocity before it can get any further.
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Re: Congress on Track to Make Boycotting Israel Illegal
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2017, 08:47:44 pm »
I'm a Zionist and I think this is bullshit. Just because I don't support the BDS movement doesn't mean they should be banned.
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Re: Congress on Track to Make Boycotting Israel Illegal
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2017, 08:59:23 pm »
It's not like these BDS guys are ISIS or some shit.
They're perfectly within the realm of legality.

Why should it be illegal to have an opinion on a specific foreign police issue?

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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2017, 09:55:33 pm »
It's not like these BDS guys are ISIS or some shit.
They're perfectly within the realm of legality.

Why should it be illegal to have an opinion on a specific foreign police issue?

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Re: Congress on Track to Make Boycotting Israel Illegal
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2017, 07:10:15 pm »
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/harvey/2017/10/19/get-harvey-relief-funds-residents-dickinson-must-vow-boycott-israel

If you live in Dickinson, Texas and want a grant from the Hurricane Harvey relief fund, you have to verify that you have not boycotted Israel and will not boycott Israel.

That sounds... massively unconstitutional... for the government to demand that.


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Re: Congress on Track to Make Boycotting Israel Illegal
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2017, 03:15:28 pm »
I don't  even understand why anyone in Dickerson, Texas would boycott Israel.  Like was that really a big thing that was plauging the area or something?  Nonetheless, that's so unconstitutional that it hurts.

Ironbite-ACLU will have a field day.

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Re: Congress on Track to Make Boycotting Israel Illegal
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2017, 04:10:11 am »
I don't  even understand why anyone in Dickerson, Texas would boycott Israel.  Like was that really a big thing that was plauging the area or something?  Nonetheless, that's so unconstitutional that it hurts.

Ironbite-ACLU will have a field day.

They just gotta be sure they don't have any heretics among them.