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Title: Student goes effing LOCO about OWS related project at NYU
Post by: DiscoBerry on January 08, 2012, 05:51:40 pm
Here are some bits of the email she sent to the President of NYU:

"The way I interpret this statement is that Professor Zaloom asked me to stop expressing my views in class—by the way,according to the American Constitution, and many academic policies, this is both my legal and academic right, but whatever, I guess that doesn't matter when you're Caitlin Zaloom—-because she realized I was right, or because she could not argue with me without recognizing that the assignment was completely illegitimate and a farce?

If you have any thoughts on this, please feel free to reach out! [REDACTED] is my mobile phone number and it will be on all night, as I will be waiting up until 9 am rolls around...

3. Although it went against my core values, moral beliefs, and also made me feel unsafe, I ultimately did go to Occupy Wall Street with my class group——-two other young girls, who are quite attractive and thin, and don't look particularly physically fit enough to take on a potential predator, rapist, paranoid schizophrenic, etc.——just to see if I was being as melodramatic as Professor Zaloom made me feel I was.

***I won't go into detail here, but let me just tell you that if anything, I had previously underestimated how awful Occupy Wall Street was, and I left the park feeling as though I had escaped an extremely dangerous—-and even, life-threatening—-situation.***

4. After sending various emails to Professor Zaloom's account, in which I expressed my discomfort with the assignment for legal, academic, ethical, moral, and safety reasons, and also mentioned these things in class, she finally agreed to meet with me one last time."


Here is the professors rating at ratemyprofessor.com  http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=960217 (http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=960217)

It gets worse...http://gawker.com/5873148/the-crazy-department+wide-emails-that-everyone-at-nyu-is-talking-about (http://gawker.com/5873148/the-crazy-department+wide-emails-that-everyone-at-nyu-is-talking-about)
Title: Re: Student goes effing LOCO about OWS related project at NYU
Post by: ironbite on January 08, 2012, 06:19:22 pm
What...the...fuck?
Title: Re: Student goes effing LOCO about OWS related project at NYU
Post by: QueenofHearts on January 08, 2012, 06:41:59 pm
All I hear is "Woe is me, I'm a conservative being oppressed by liberal professors because of my political beliefs."

Seriously, is it really hard to visit a couple of people in Zucotti park in broad fucking daylight with police everywhere. Fuck, for a sociology class project I visited and conducted interviews in a homeless shelter where I talked to people who WERE ACTUALLY unstable and I didn't bitch.

Grow up.
Title: Re: Student goes effing LOCO about OWS related project at NYU
Post by: Auri-El on January 08, 2012, 06:46:47 pm
She doesn't get what free speech  means, either. From what I understood, she had her say, her professor listened and responded, and because the response wasn't what she wanted, she started screaming, "Free speech! I has none!!!!11!"
Title: Re: Student goes effing LOCO about OWS related project at NYU
Post by: gyeonghwa on January 08, 2012, 06:53:04 pm
Free speech to these type of people means they get to say what they want and anything criticizing it or contrary to to it is oppression.
Title: Re: Student goes effing LOCO about OWS related project at NYU
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 08, 2012, 07:00:22 pm
I...tha fuck?  Jesus, some people are bleedin special ain't they?
Title: Re: Student goes effing LOCO about OWS related project at NYU
Post by: anti-nonsense on January 08, 2012, 07:04:06 pm
holy fuck, that's some serious crazy.
Title: Re: Student goes effing LOCO about OWS related project at NYU
Post by: rageaholic on January 08, 2012, 07:28:54 pm
Okay I can understand being a little nervous depending on the location (I live near Detroit), but this is one crazy ass bitch! 

Sounds like some of the nuttier planet feedback letters or customer encounters that are posted on sites like notalwaysright or customerssuck. 
Title: Re: Student goes effing LOCO about OWS related project at NYU
Post by: DiscoBerry on January 08, 2012, 07:32:21 pm
holy fuck, that's some serious crazy.

In the comments section they are debating whether she has schizophrenia, some other kind of paranoia issues, type 1 bi polar, etc... I mean come bitching about hold ones hand up in class for too long.  Anyone who hasn't gone to the page and read (or at least skimmed) the WHOLE thing ought to. 
Title: Re: Student goes effing LOCO about OWS related project at NYU
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on January 08, 2012, 08:30:06 pm
Once in Amnesty International club, we were making an ad supporting the release of a political prisoner. We were discussing ideas of what we would say, pictures, directing, etc. One boy piped up and said, "We just have to make sure the tone isn't anti-American. that's what I care about." (Right, because being pro-freedom means being anti-American. Got it.)

This guy is just plain ridiculous though...
Title: Re: Student goes effing LOCO about OWS related project at NYU
Post by: sandman on January 08, 2012, 08:32:22 pm
LOL I visited OWS two weeks ago when I was in NYC. There were goddamn cops EVERYWHERE. It's probably the safest place in New York right now. It seems that her real beef was that she didn't want to do a study on the OWS people at all because she finds what they stand for so utterly disagreeable. Her dismissing them all as criminals, drug addicts, and mentally ill essentially proves that little factoid.

When I was in university I did my assignments whether I wanted to or not because I wanted a degree and I wasn't a privileged little fuckwad who believed that I should get everything I want handed to me on a fucking silver platter. Earth to crazy bitch! Life is not fair. School is hard. Suck it up and do what you need to do. You think NYU needs one more crazyass undergrad? Pay attention: NYU does not need you. You need NYU. You push this and they will simply dismiss you. No degree for crazy bitch. You know how many undergrads are at NYU? NYU won't even notice you're gone.

Here's how you handle it when you can not work with a professor: you withdraw from the class and retake it with another prof. It's that easy. You don't call up the President and threaten him unless he fires the professor. Universities do not bow to the whims of undergrads.

I wonder if she realizes how crazy her e-mails make her look? How ridiculous? I wonder if she knows how insanely childish her formatting is? can someone who wants to study sociology really be that clueless?

I wonder if she realizes how much Fox News would shit themselves to run with her "story."
Title: Re: Student goes effing LOCO about OWS related project at NYU
Post by: maanantai on January 08, 2012, 08:35:27 pm
Free speech to these type of people means they get to say what they want and anything criticizing it or contrary to to it is oppression.

I have to agree with you on that.

And I got the picture, that this person would like to use all the class time to "share their point of view" for which the other students (too) are paying for.
Title: Re: Student goes effing LOCO about OWS related project at NYU
Post by: ThunderWulf on January 08, 2012, 08:57:24 pm
I have a feeling someone's being a little over dramatic.  Life threatening?  Seriously?  With all the cops and news crews around you thought you were in mortal peril?

Just because you're upset at observing something against your political views doesn't mean you have a free pass to make crazy shit up to make the other side look bad.
Title: Re: Student goes effing LOCO about OWS related project at NYU
Post by: DiscoBerry on January 08, 2012, 08:59:10 pm
I have a feeling someone's being a little over dramatic.  Life threatening?  Seriously?  With all the cops and news crews around you thought you were in mortal peril?

Just because you're upset at observing something against your political views doesn't mean you have a free pass to make crazy shit up to make the other side look bad.

According to my wildly conservative friend, OWS was REALLY broken up because of an outbreak of Typhus.  Sounds to me like she might have gotten the memo
Title: Re: Student goes effing LOCO about OWS related project at NYU
Post by: Auri-El on January 08, 2012, 09:10:39 pm
Well, on the bright side, that's one person no (sane) company's going to want to hire. One more job for those who really want & need it.
Title: Re: Student goes effing LOCO about OWS related project at NYU
Post by: rageaholic on January 08, 2012, 09:36:08 pm
I wonder if she realizes how much Fox News would shit themselves to run with her "story."

I'm surprised they haven't already (or did they?).
Title: Re: Student goes effing LOCO about OWS related project at NYU
Post by: Canadian Mojo on January 08, 2012, 10:52:23 pm
Well, on the bright side, that's one person no (sane) company's going to want to hire. One more job for those who really want & need it.
By now she probably at least three offers for internships from republican congressmen... and another four from the senate.
Title: Re: Student goes effing LOCO about OWS related project at NYU
Post by: Thejebusfire on January 09, 2012, 01:49:55 am
I think the reason she didn't want to go was because she knew that protesters would prove to her that they were not "criminals, drug addicts, mentally ill people, and of course, the few competent, mentally stable people."

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Ackerman complains that a guest lecturer refused to call on her despite her hand being raised for a minute and 15 seconds

And I was always the last kid picked for the P.E. kick ball game. You're not the only person in the damn lecture hall, get over yourself.

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(**note: I did not meet any of the supposedly mentally sound, non-delusional people at Zucotti Park. All of the interviews that I conducted are on video, and clearly show that each person I interviewed—-and believe me, for my own safety, I tried to interview the most seemingly normal people there—-was either mentally disturbed or dangerous, scary or masked, or misogynistic and rude. I was cat-called at, gawked at, ogled, and called derogatory names.)

I don't know who you interviewed, but I bet you you're just mad because the majority of these people called you out on your bullshit. Also, if you want to see a bunch of mentally disturbed and dangerous people, go to a tea party rally.

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Not only did Professor Zaloom refuse to give me an alternative, but she also threatened to give me an F on the assignment, should I choose not to complete it.

Welcome to college! You're not entitled to do whatever the fuck you want you spoiled bitch. You do the same work everyone else does or you fail. You're not special, get over yourself.
Title: Re: Student goes effing LOCO about OWS related project at NYU
Post by: Sylvana on January 09, 2012, 03:48:13 am
Welcome to college! You're not entitled to do whatever the fuck you want you spoiled bitch. You do the same work everyone else does or you fail. You're not special, get over yourself.

I think this sums up my position completely.
Seriously though, I am impressed that the NYU staff put up with her for as long as they did. When I was studying if a lecturer of anyone got an email like that the response would have been:

"Either do the assignment or you will fail. If you want to 'go public' feel free, but if your paper isn't in on time you will receive an F"
Title: Re: Student goes effing LOCO about OWS related project at NYU
Post by: DasFuchs on January 09, 2012, 05:49:00 am
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I wonder if she realizes how crazy her e-mails make her look? How ridiculous? I wonder if she knows how insanely childish her formatting is? can someone who wants to study sociology really be that clueless?

I know this type exists on every political spectrum, but gods, it seems like they flock heavier to conservative republican than anything else. Though given the Republican party, you'd kinda need to be crazy to be there

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I don't know who you interviewed, but I bet you you're just mad because the majority of these people called you out on your bullshit. Also, if you want to see a bunch of mentally disturbed and dangerous people, go to a tea party rally.

I've got a feeling the only reason she didn't interview these "rumored mentally unstable" people is because there weren't any.
Also I think she's responding to a bit of preacher effect. She went there and upset people with a bunch of preaching and got all miffed because people responded in a negative way. Kinda like shouting "God hates fags" at a funeral and then bitching how evil everyone is for throwing a brick through your van window