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Offline Jacob Harrison

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Re: More proof that the Christian God is real
« Reply #45 on: July 05, 2018, 09:38:47 pm »
So, I'm a little curious. Let's assume for a moment that Jacob here is right, and that this girl sketched a pair of disembodied eyes crying onto a flower before getting shot because Jesus Magic. Of all the things an all-powerful, all-knowing god could possibly do right before a couple of loonies shot a bunch of kids, why would he go with making a girl draw something only people who buy into numerology would argue has anything to do with the shooting, instead of, oh I don't know, actually stopping the shooting?
Maybe just all caps writing that says two lunatics are plotting a massacre, their names, addresses and the time and place of the planned incident, shit-write it in Aramaic, Greek or Pig Latin. It'd still be more effective!

Well if she drew that, people would still not believe her. Since God’s omnipotence includes the powers that exist, not the powers that don’t exist, he decided that since he couldn’t stop the tragedy, he would give her visions to make her draw it so that it would be used to convert people to Christianity.

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Re: More proof that the Christian God is real
« Reply #46 on: July 05, 2018, 09:54:36 pm »
Yeah, if he can magically heal people and even raise the dead (all shit that happened in the Bible), he can stop a couple of trigger-happy nutjobs. Even if you buy that not being able to stop a couple of kids with guns qualifies as omnipotent (which it doesn't), he at the very least could've brought everyone who died back to life. Not to mention, even you have to admit that would've been a far more compelling argument for his existence than a shitty little doodle in some emo kid's notebook.

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Re: More proof that the Christian God is real
« Reply #47 on: July 05, 2018, 09:55:02 pm »
Writing a clear message in all caps is a power that doesn't exist?

Are you familiar with this thing called "the internet?"

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Re: More proof that the Christian God is real
« Reply #48 on: July 05, 2018, 10:10:00 pm »
Yeah, if he can magically heal people and even raise the dead (all shit that happened in the Bible), he can stop a couple of trigger-happy nutjobs. Even if you buy that not being able to stop a couple of kids with guns qualifies as omnipotent (which it doesn't), he at the very least could've brought everyone who died back to life. Not to mention, even you have to admit that would've been a far more compelling argument for his existence than a shitty little doodle in some emo kid's notebook.

He was busy doing those things all around the world at the time the shooters were plotting the massacre. You have to be in the CLOSE presence of Jesus Christ to be risen from the dead or it can be done through a Patriarch.

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Re: More proof that the Christian God is real
« Reply #49 on: July 05, 2018, 10:11:03 pm »
Writing a clear message in all caps is a power that doesn't exist?

Are you familiar with this thing called "the internet?"

It is a power that exists, however as I said, people wouldn’t believe her.

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Re: More proof that the Christian God is real
« Reply #50 on: July 05, 2018, 10:18:06 pm »
1. Heard of swatting? It works because if the cops in any US police station get wind of a potentially violent situation even from an anonymous source the respond promptly and armed to the teeth.

2. An onmipotent being can't be overextended, it's an oxymoron

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Re: More proof that the Christian God is real
« Reply #51 on: July 05, 2018, 10:41:15 pm »
1. Heard of swatting? It works because if the cops in any US police station get wind of a potentially violent situation even from an anonymous source the respond promptly and armed to the teeth.

2. An onmipotent being can't be overextended, it's an oxymoron

God had the power to give her premonitions of what was going to happen but did not have the power to tell her how to express the visions.

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Re: More proof that the Christian God is real
« Reply #52 on: July 05, 2018, 10:43:00 pm »
1. Heard of swatting? It works because if the cops in any US police station get wind of a potentially violent situation even from an anonymous source the respond promptly and armed to the teeth.

2. An onmipotent being can't be overextended, it's an oxymoron

God had the power to give her premonitions of what was going to happen but did not have the power to tell her how to express the visions.

That's completely and utterly useless now isn't it? Remind me why you feel the need to worship this fellow, again?

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Re: More proof that the Christian God is real
« Reply #53 on: July 05, 2018, 10:53:12 pm »
An all powerful all seeing entity can't communicate a clear warning in a clear manner to it's intended audience? And limited, mortal, squishy humans can? Huh?

So God is less powerful than a chatbot or an automated teleophone queue? Less powerful than a hungry cat or a playful dog?

Huh!
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Re: More proof that the Christian God is real
« Reply #54 on: July 06, 2018, 02:15:38 am »
God: Objectively less powerful than someone shouting.
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Re: More proof that the Christian God is real
« Reply #55 on: July 06, 2018, 09:22:04 am »
An all powerful all seeing entity can't communicate a clear warning in a clear manner to it's intended audience? And limited, mortal, squishy humans can? Huh?

So God is less powerful than a chatbot or an automated teleophone queue? Less powerful than a hungry cat or a playful dog?

Huh!

He can and it was done in the Old Testament. However there wasn’t enough time to stop the shooting. She drew the picture right before the shooting, so if she shouted about it at that point, it would have been too late.

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Re: More proof that the Christian God is real
« Reply #56 on: July 06, 2018, 11:07:40 am »
An all powerful all seeing entity can't communicate a clear warning in a clear manner to it's intended audience? And limited, mortal, squishy humans can? Huh?

So God is less powerful than a chatbot or an automated teleophone queue? Less powerful than a hungry cat or a playful dog?

Huh!

He can and it was done in the Old Testament. However there wasn’t enough time to stop the shooting. She drew the picture right before the shooting, so if she shouted about it at that point, it would have been too late.

Say, didn't you say earlier that God exists outside of time? Even if he didn't, let me remind you that he's omniscient. What, are you saying he's a chronic procrastinator?

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Re: More proof that the Christian God is real
« Reply #57 on: July 06, 2018, 11:26:17 am »
An all powerful all seeing entity can't communicate a clear warning in a clear manner to it's intended audience? And limited, mortal, squishy humans can? Huh?

So God is less powerful than a chatbot or an automated teleophone queue? Less powerful than a hungry cat or a playful dog?

Huh!

He can and it was done in the Old Testament. However there wasn’t enough time to stop the shooting. She drew the picture right before the shooting, so if she shouted about it at that point, it would have been too late.
In the OT God just goes down and talks to people, that's what he did to Job - for bloody hours to tell him how awesome he was and that's why he shouldn't be bitching about how he unleashed the devil to fuck his life because the two are connected, somehow.

If he can rant at Job about how awesome he is to some poor homeless slob he ruined by allowing a psycho to kill his family and destroy his livelihood then surely he can tell a teenager to watch out for a couple of bloody gunmen!

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Re: More proof that the Christian God is real
« Reply #58 on: July 06, 2018, 02:52:03 pm »
An all powerful all seeing entity can't communicate a clear warning in a clear manner to it's intended audience? And limited, mortal, squishy humans can? Huh?

So God is less powerful than a chatbot or an automated teleophone queue? Less powerful than a hungry cat or a playful dog?

Huh!

He can and it was done in the Old Testament. However there wasn’t enough time to stop the shooting. She drew the picture right before the shooting, so if she shouted about it at that point, it would have been too late.

Say, didn't you say earlier that God exists outside of time? Even if he didn't, let me remind you that he's omniscient. What, are you saying he's a chronic procrastinator?

He is beyond time because he keeps traveling through all the wormholes from the beginning of the universe till the day Christ returns. However the Holy Spirit Part of him is omnipresent by traveling the speed of light throughout the universe using the 11 dimensions of string theory to try his best to help everyone and convert people so that in most cases, he does not have enough time to stop.

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Re: More proof that the Christian God is real
« Reply #59 on: July 06, 2018, 07:33:34 pm »
Jacob how do you know she got her prophecy from the christian God and not Allah? Or Bhudda? Or Brahma? Or Zeus? Or Odin? Or Ra? Or Enlil? Or Huitzilopochtli? Or Haruhi? Or Princess Celestia? Or Arceus? Or The Great Pumpkin? Or....