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Once again, the idiot of SOPA proposes another internet law
« on: January 18, 2012, 11:52:27 pm »

http://www.opencongress.org/articles/view/2353-House-Advances-Internet-Surveillance-Bill-

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http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Data-Storage/US-ISP-Data-Retention-Bill-Goes-to-House-for-Debate-806677/


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The House Judiciary Committee approved a controversial bill that would require Internet service providers to retain customer data for 12 months.

The data retention clause would require ISPs to keep subscriber information including IP addresses for 12 months for use to investigate cases of child exploitation. After two days of intense negotiations, committee members voted 19 to 10 on July 28 to send the amended bill to the full House of Representatives for debate.

The data retention bill has the backing of law enforcement organizations and the National Cable and Telecommunications Association. Along with IP addresses, law enforcement will have access to full subscriber records that can be tied to the Websites each person visited as well as any content posted without having to first obtain a court order.

"When investigators develop leads that might result in saving a child or apprehending a pedophile, their efforts should not be frustrated because vital records were destroyed simply because there was no requirement to retain them," said Chairman Lamar Smith, R-Texas, the bill's co-sponsor.

The original version of the bill had requested 18 months. Smith offered an amendment to cut time to 12 months, which passed. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., proposed one to strike the data retention requirements from the bill entirely, which failed by a 15-8 vote.

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Lofgren argued that a targeted approach is better than a database of "every digital act by every American." She proposed an amendment to require the ISPs to inform the courts when faced with requests from law enforcement, similar to how phone companies currently have to report wiretapping requests. She also sought to specify that ISPs can't add other types of consumer data to be collected and retained.

All of Lofgren's amendments were defeated.

Lofgren said the bill wouldn't achieve its goals because the data retention applies to only "commercial" providers. Criminals would simply go to libraries or Starbucks coffeehouses and use the Web anonymously, while law-abiding Americans would have their activities recorded, she said. The ISPs would know criminals used library machines but law enforcement would not be able to identify the user, while all the activity from a home computer would be retained, she said.

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Re: Once again, the idiot of SOPA proposes another internet law
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2012, 12:03:22 am »
Is this guy a cynic trying to score points with a certain crowd, or is he just an idiot?
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Re: Once again, the idiot of SOPA proposes another internet law
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2012, 12:04:21 am »
As a member of the Discordian Party, I support this new law.
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Re: Once again, the idiot of SOPA proposes another internet law
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2012, 12:15:32 am »
A surefire sign that the people in power are clueless when it comes to the internet. Has Anon truly taught them nothing?


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Re: Once again, the idiot of SOPA proposes another internet law
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2012, 12:28:31 am »
Lamar Smith is trying to appease the people who control him.  Mainly the big head honchos who seem to think it's great to sue a mother of 3 more money then the United States GDP for downloading 5 songs.

Ironbite-yeah he's an idiot.

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Re: Once again, the idiot of SOPA proposes another internet law
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2012, 12:32:10 am »
we have to make sure this moron doesn't get re-elected. And make sure that the rest of the House knows *why*. If this bullshit kills his career it'll discourage others from pulling the same bullshit later.
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Re: Once again, the idiot of SOPA proposes another internet law
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2012, 12:42:58 am »
we have to make sure this moron doesn't get re-elected. And make sure that the rest of the House knows *why*. If this bullshit kills his career it'll discourage others from pulling the same bullshit later.

I don't think Lamar gives a shit. All he cares about is money.
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Re: Once again, the idiot of SOPA proposes another internet law
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2012, 12:50:21 am »
they'll stop paying him if he can't get them what they want. Also, it's not just about him, it's about the others.
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Re: Once again, the idiot of SOPA proposes another internet law
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2012, 01:45:13 am »
He's been a Congressman since 1986.  So he's pretty fully entrenched in the political machine.  However it's looking like he's losing ground as he has been winning with only 60-70% of the vote.  More in the 60s then 70s so there is some good things going.

Ironbite-so what he's doing now will probably end his career next election.

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Re: Once again, the idiot of SOPA proposes another internet law
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2012, 09:47:43 am »
He's been a Congressman since 1986.  So he's pretty fully entrenched in the political machine.
I thought Feingold was pretty entrenched. Didn’t save him.

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Re: Once again, the idiot of SOPA proposes another internet law
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2012, 08:32:05 pm »
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Re: Once again, the idiot of SOPA proposes another internet law
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2012, 08:42:55 pm »
Yeah, I sometimes wonder if the guys who want the IP records are just trying to find out the most popular porn sites.
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Re: Once again, the idiot of SOPA proposes another internet law
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2012, 09:15:28 pm »
I really, seriously hope this doesn't actually come to be..
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Re: Once again, the idiot of SOPA proposes another internet law
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2012, 09:18:16 pm »
Lol, store IPs away...my ISP changes them constantly anyways
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