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Re: 'God can heal' Advertisment banned
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2012, 09:36:35 pm »
They weren't advertising "spiritual healing". If you read the article, it clearly says the advertisements include things such as:

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"Need Healing? God can heal today! Do you suffer from Back Pain, Arthritis, MS, Addiction ... Ulcers, Depression, Allergies, Fibromyalgia, Asthma, Paralysis, Crippling Disease, Phobias, Sleeping disorders or any other sickness?

"We'd love to pray for your healing right now!

"We're Christian from churches in Bath and we pray in the name of Jesus. We believe that God loves you and can heal you from any sickness."

These are quite obviously medical claims that they cannot back up with evidence, and thus is false advertising and not a religious freedom or freedom of speech issue at all.

I don't know.  With that last part, "We'd love to pray for your healing right now!  We're Christian from churches in Bath and we pray in the name of Jesus. We believe that God loves you and can heal you from any sickness." I don't think it is that clear that it is a medical claim.  It they said that God "would" heal people that would be different.

That, plus the fact that the Advertising Standards Authority can't force the church to stop unless they seek legal action I think the church should let them try and get their day in court.
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Re: 'God can heal' Advertisment banned
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2012, 02:46:06 am »
Their ads were outright lies. They deserved to get canned.

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Re: 'God can heal' Advertisment banned
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2012, 02:57:57 am »
If the placebo effect worked so well, we wouldn't need medicine for diseases.
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Re: 'God can heal' Advertisment banned
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2012, 03:02:12 am »
This is not the first time that the ASA have taken action over this. Prayer healing advert criticised.
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Re: 'God can heal' Advertisment banned
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2012, 10:31:51 am »
If the placebo effect worked so well, we wouldn't need medicine for diseases.

Not to mention that it's one thing if a person chooses to use a placebo on their own.  It's quite different to mislead people into thinking that the placebo is actually as effective as real medicine.
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Re: 'God can heal' Advertisment banned
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2012, 10:30:30 pm »
If the placebo effect worked so well, we wouldn't need medicine for diseases.

Not to mention that it's one thing if a person chooses to use a placebo on their own.  It's quite different to mislead people into thinking that the placebo is actually as effective as real medicine.

...Isn't the whole point of a placebo to make the person believe it's working?
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Re: 'God can heal' Advertisment banned
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2012, 11:35:36 pm »
If the placebo effect worked so well, we wouldn't need medicine for diseases.

Not to mention that it's one thing if a person chooses to use a placebo on their own.  It's quite different to mislead people into thinking that the placebo is actually as effective as real medicine.

...Isn't the whole point of a placebo to make the person believe it's working?

I have rituals where I step over cracks in the sidewalk in a certain way all the time.  I know for a fact that this does absolutely NOTHING.  But I feel better when I do follow those patterns.

So, it is possible to experience the placebo effect while still knowing that a placebo is involved.
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Re: 'God can heal' Advertisment banned
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2012, 11:41:11 pm »
If the placebo effect worked so well, we wouldn't need medicine for diseases.

Not to mention that it's one thing if a person chooses to use a placebo on their own.  It's quite different to mislead people into thinking that the placebo is actually as effective as real medicine.

...Isn't the whole point of a placebo to make the person believe it's working?

I have rituals where I step over cracks in the sidewalk in a certain way all the time.  I know for a fact that this does absolutely NOTHING.  But I feel better when I do follow those patterns.

So, it is possible to experience the placebo effect while still knowing that a placebo is involved.

I... I thought that I did that just because I was having an OCD moment... :V
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Re: 'God can heal' Advertisment banned
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2012, 11:42:29 pm »
I used to always step in such a way that my left foot always fell on a crack or line, or different color tile, and my right foot, the opposite.
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Re: 'God can heal' Advertisment banned
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2012, 01:13:35 am »
I think Dr. Ashen summed up my feelings about this kind of advertising (which reeks of "faith healing" bullshit to me) when he called Peter Popoff an "Astonishingly vile fuck" among other things.


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Re: 'God can heal' Advertisment banned
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2012, 01:27:29 pm »
Now, I may just be silly in saying this, but technically God may be able to heal.  See, if one of the people here with the rank of "God" is a doctor, then yes.  God really can heal! :P
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