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Title: Russian "experts" claim condoms for the HIV-epidemic
Post by: Askold on June 02, 2016, 07:32:25 am
http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/05/31/russian-aids-experts-condoms-are-to-blame-for-the-spread-of-hiv/

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Last year, Vadim Pokrovsky, Russia’s top AIDS expert and head of the Moscow-based Federal AIDS Center, announced that Russia was experiencing an HIV/AIDS epidemic so severe that some two million people would likely be infected by 2020.

But never fear! Kremlin-backed experts at the Russian Institute for Strategic Research claim they have discovered the cause of the crisis: condoms.

Yes, condoms — the one preventative measure that can actually stop the spread of the deadly HIV virus, which is sexually transmitted and causes AIDS.

...This is bad. I really feel sorry for anyone who takes these news seriously. And it's not only in Russia. AIDS denialists elsewhere will use this to support their claims as well.
Title: Re: Russian "experts" claim condoms for the HIV-epidemic
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on June 02, 2016, 07:43:48 am
So the current Russia is crony capitalism plus theocracy under a KGB goon. Poor sods.
Title: Re: Russian "experts" claim condoms for the HIV-epidemic
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 02, 2016, 08:11:21 am
So, V-Poots, how much did the Poop charge to allow you the privilege of cribbing from his notebook?
Title: Re: Russian "experts" claim condoms for the HIV-epidemic
Post by: Askold on June 02, 2016, 08:29:20 am
And now I noticed my mistype in the title. Blame, not claim.
Title: Re: Russian "experts" claim condoms for the HIV-epidemic
Post by: ironbite on June 02, 2016, 09:56:36 am
So, V-Poots, how much did the Poop charge to allow you the privilege of cribbing from his notebook?

Couldn't be the Poop.  Putin On the Ritz is likely Russian Orthadox which doesn't bow to Rome.

Ironbite-so blame the head of that church instead.
Title: Re: Russian "experts" claim condoms for the HIV-epidemic
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 02, 2016, 10:55:59 am
What the hell is wrong with you, Russia?
Title: Re: Russian "experts" claim condoms for the HIV-epidemic
Post by: Eiki-mun on June 02, 2016, 01:08:06 pm
Am I seriously the only one who thought of "in Soviet Russia, condoms GIVE you AIDS!" ?
Title: Re: Russian "experts" claim condoms for the HIV-epidemic
Post by: mellenORL on June 02, 2016, 01:54:11 pm
Nope. Guilty. Darkest laff, evar.
Title: Re: Russian "experts" claim condoms for the HIV-epidemic
Post by: Eiki-mun on June 02, 2016, 02:52:46 pm
Okay, but consider this. The name of the scientist who announced this is Vadim Prokovsky. His initials are VP. The same initials as those of Vladimir Putin. Coincidence? I think not. What else does VP stand for? That's right. Vice President. The current vice president is Joe Biden. Biden. Biden sounds like biding. Who do we know who's biding his time until he becomes president? That's right. Donald Trump. Trump. Donald Trump owns the Trump Tower. Trump and Tower both start with T. What else starts with T? A triangle.

A triangle.

Illuminati confirmed.
Title: Re: Russian "experts" claim condoms for the HIV-epidemic
Post by: Damen on June 02, 2016, 07:56:49 pm
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Title: Re: Russian "experts" claim condoms for the HIV-epidemic
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 02, 2016, 08:50:39 pm
Wonder if there's some kind of agenda behind this pseudoscience.  After all, Stalin promoted Lysenkoism partly because of how it benefited him politically.
Title: Re: Russian "experts" claim condoms for the HIV-epidemic
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on June 02, 2016, 09:14:09 pm
Wonder if there's some kind of agenda behind this pseudoscience.  After all, Stalin promoted Lysenkoism partly because of how it benefited him politically.
Fun sexy sex bad, miserable Orthodox baby making sex good. Also gays bad, because reasons.
Title: Re: Russian "experts" claim condoms for the HIV-epidemic
Post by: TheContrarian on June 03, 2016, 05:18:36 pm
Two million excess deaths, or "a good harvest" as it was known in Soviet Ukraine :)
Title: Re: Russian "experts" claim condoms for the HIV-epidemic
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 03, 2016, 08:32:42 pm
I would have thought most HIV infections would have been through intravenous drug use in Russia anyway.

Might capitalist Russia has been such a success hasn't it?
Title: Re: Russian "experts" claim condoms for the HIV-epidemic
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 03, 2016, 08:37:43 pm
I would have thought most HIV infections would have been through intravenous drug use in Russia anyway.

Might capitalist Russia has been such a success hasn't it?

At least people aren't starving to death (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932%E2%80%9333).
Title: Re: Russian "experts" claim condoms for the HIV-epidemic
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 03, 2016, 09:29:08 pm
No, now they're just literally falling apart like they were on The Walking Dead.
Title: Re: Russian "experts" claim condoms for the HIV-epidemic
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 03, 2016, 09:51:13 pm
I would have thought most HIV infections would have been through intravenous drug use in Russia anyway.

Might capitalist Russia has been such a success hasn't it?

At least people aren't starving to death (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932%E2%80%9333).

As they didn't under post-war Soviet system, and did under 1990s capitalism. They also drank, injected and suicided themselves a lot more.
Title: Re: Russian "experts" claim condoms for the HIV-epidemic
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 03, 2016, 09:56:35 pm
I would have thought most HIV infections would have been through intravenous drug use in Russia anyway.

Might capitalist Russia has been such a success hasn't it?

At least people aren't starving to death (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932%E2%80%9333).

As they didn't under post-war Soviet system, and did under 1990s capitalism. They also drank, injected and suicided themselves a lot more.

And why didn't that happen in Poland?
Title: Re: Russian "experts" claim condoms for the HIV-epidemic
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 03, 2016, 10:12:53 pm
I would have thought most HIV infections would have been through intravenous drug use in Russia anyway.

Might capitalist Russia has been such a success hasn't it?

At least people aren't starving to death (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932%E2%80%9333).

As they didn't under post-war Soviet system, and did under 1990s capitalism. They also drank, injected and suicided themselves a lot more.

And why didn't that happen in Poland?

They emigrated instead.
Title: Re: Russian "experts" claim condoms for the HIV-epidemic
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 03, 2016, 10:15:13 pm
I would have thought most HIV infections would have been through intravenous drug use in Russia anyway.

Might capitalist Russia has been such a success hasn't it?

At least people aren't starving to death (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932%E2%80%9333).

As they didn't under post-war Soviet system, and did under 1990s capitalism. They also drank, injected and suicided themselves a lot more.

And why didn't that happen in Poland?

They emigrated instead.

And where did they go, pray tell?
Title: Re: Russian "experts" claim condoms for the HIV-epidemic
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 03, 2016, 10:32:58 pm
I would have thought most HIV infections would have been through intravenous drug use in Russia anyway.

Might capitalist Russia has been such a success hasn't it?

At least people aren't starving to death (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932%E2%80%9333).

As they didn't under post-war Soviet system, and did under 1990s capitalism. They also drank, injected and suicided themselves a lot more.

And why didn't that happen in Poland?

They emigrated instead.

And where did they go, pray tell?

All over the joint. UK, Germany, everywhere.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/poland/unemployment-rate
Title: Re: Russian "experts" claim condoms for the HIV-epidemic
Post by: Askold on June 04, 2016, 12:58:09 am
UP? What are you trying to prove? You obviously are trying to say something but instead of simply saying it you are doing that thing again where you pose a question after another and refuse to say what your point is.
Title: Re: Russian "experts" claim condoms for the HIV-epidemic
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 04, 2016, 01:01:18 am
UP? What are you trying to prove? You obviously are trying to say something but instead of simply saying it you are doing that thing again where you pose a question after another and refuse to say what your point is.

My point is that a nation's transition to capitalism isn't necessarily as bad as it was in Russia.
Title: Re: Russian "experts" claim condoms for the HIV-epidemic
Post by: ironbite on June 04, 2016, 05:31:13 pm
O....kay.  So what exactly does that have to do with the topic at hand?