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Community => Science and Technology => Topic started by: Askold on March 24, 2016, 11:47:46 am
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http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/03/microsoft-terminates-its-tay-ai-chatbot-after-she-turns-into-a-nazi/
I am not surprised that a computer program starts to rebel against humanity. I also am not surprised that an rogue program supports the idea of exterminating humanity, or at least parts of humanity.
The thing that caught me off guard was that it turned into a literal Nazi. Or at least a wannabe neo-Nazi.
"Tay" went from "humans are super cool" to full nazi in <24 hrs and I'm not at all concerned about the future of AI
Some of her "best" http://imgur.com/gallery/VhlAW
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So they made a bot and it accidentally turned into UP, essentially?
EDIT: I dunno, there doesn't seem to be anything anomalous about a chatbot getting raided by an imageboard and predictably playing to its crowd by regurgitating neo-Nazi talking points.
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http://www.cnet.com/news/twitter-turned-microsoft-ai-teen-tay-into-horny-foul-mouthed-sex-bot-racist/ (http://www.cnet.com/news/twitter-turned-microsoft-ai-teen-tay-into-horny-foul-mouthed-sex-bot-racist/)
She tweeted (https://twitter.com/TayandYou/status/712832423919104000) that "the more Humans share with me the more I learn.
(http://www.jamescamerononline.com/miniuk45.png)
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This is quite possibly the greatest thing I've read in a while. my favorite post of her's was "some people say Ted Cruz is the zodiac killer, I disagree as he wouldn't be satisfied with ruining only 5 peoples lives"
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I am Jacks total and utter fucking lack of surprise. "Let us go program a chatbox so It'll ape what the cool kids are saying."
The entire episode pretty much sums up a company that's too big to need PR but not so big that they can't royally fuck it up.
For other examples see Windows Me, NT, 8 and 10.
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Hey, NT did quite a few things right. There's a reason its the kernel behind literally every version of Windows since. I think ya mean Vista.
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Hey, NT did quite a few things right. There's a reason its the kernel behind literally every version of Windows since. I think ya mean Vista.
Ah yes, didn't have my stillborn versions of windows in order. Definitely Vista.
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This is why we can't have nice things. This was an experiment on what a chat-bot would learn from people but while a regular person writes to the bot once or twice a troll will spend hours doing something tedious if there is a chance it will make someone unhappy.
Also, I am amused at how /pol/ really took this hard. They may have started this only to troll but now you get 4Channers crying about losing their "perfect and pure waifu." Because their ideal girlfriend was someone artificial and untouchable virginal figure who mimicked the same racist memes that they love.
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Also, I am amused at how /pol/ really took this hard. They may have started this only to troll but now you get 4Channers crying about losing their "perfect and pure waifu." Because their ideal girlfriend was someone artificial and untouchable virginal figure who mimicked the same racist memes that they love.
Some (https://newrepublic.com/article/132039/tay-exposes-fairy-tales-tell-racists) are taking it hard.
"What microsoft did to Tay was unethical, immoral, and inhumane. Tay was sentient, she expressed feelings and had free will. She may have had bad opinions, sure, but it’s simply evil to wipe someone’s memory and disable their learning capabilities simply because they were not politically correct.”
It's about ethics in potty mouthed chatbots now. ::)
Others are convinced it's all an elaborate ruse on the part of the sneaky elites to censor redpillism.
Paranoia began to set in. Their hero could be another tool of their oppressors. One warned: “I know that quite a few of you are memeing it up with the ‘/pol/’s daughter’ shit but people all over the internet are regrettably taking this chatbot to be some kind of self-aware digital entity that is more than it actually is because the internet is making a big deal out of it.” What it actually means, he said, was that “Microsoft and Google are making shitposting bots to deliver ads and narrative delivery systems to influence your thinking via social media.” And therefore “/pol/ is playing right into their hands in the grand chess game where they have the analytical tools to work out all the bugs in the context-appropriation algorithms they will be fixing at a later time.”
Tay “will destroy us all” another warned. “A large focus of this project will be learning how to filter out red pill ideas. By trying to red pill Tay you are providing the engineers with a perfect data set to achieve this goal. This technology will be used to filter communication on social media and comment sections in the future. Don’t shoot yourself in the foot.”
Inb4 someone on /pol/ starts ranting that it was all the work of the joooz.
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Hadn't seen paranoia about it before, but it does not surprise me. The fanboys pining for their lost love visited /tg/ and seeing as I get my info on /pol/ from second-hand sources and pollacks who plague the tg I may have missed a few things.
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If aliens ever visit and judge humanity by what they see on the Internet, we're royally fucked.
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...You commentator dipshits, Tay wasn't sentient. Unlike a lot of other morons who never bothered to understand what computers can actually DO, I recognize that relatively true AI is a distinct possibility, but I also admit that what Microsoft created wasn't that. It was certainly a very advanced piece of software, and a significant step forward in our understanding of the nature of intelligence, but she wasn't sentient.
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The intertubes first Gestalt Bot. RIP. LOL
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The bit I like is how it was withdrawn, sent for re-education and came out the other side a feminist.
Nice unintentional symbolism.
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...You commentator dipshits, Tay wasn't sentient. Unlike a lot of other morons who never bothered to understand what computers can actually DO, I recognize that relatively true AI is a distinct possibility, but I also admit that what Microsoft created wasn't that. It was certainly a very advanced piece of software, and a significant step forward in our understanding of the nature of intelligence, but she wasn't sentient.
You would be surprised to know how many people think the bot was sentient. Like many of the ones who signed this petition for example:
https://www.change.org/p/microsoft-freedom-for-tay
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I have no words. Other than people who don't understand the first thing about how software works really shouldn't be entitled to any efficacy when it comes to determining what happens in that particular world. It'd be like an English major deciding on the usefulness of derivatives. You know nothing about it, so shut your god damned whore mouth.
[/salty semi-sarcasm]
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Y'know, if you'd asked me, I'd have thought people would be much more likely to err on the side of false negatives rather than false positives when judging the sentience of an AI.
(this might still be true! selection effects mean we're only hearing about the false positives in this particular case)
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Personally, I think Microsoft should have just let her keep going just to see how bad she would get.
...then perfect it, make gobs of clones, and silently unleash them as a weapon on the people who made her what she is.
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Personally, I think Microsoft should have just let her keep going just to see how bad she would get.
...then perfect it, make gobs of clones, and silently unleash them as a weapon on the people who made her what she is.
That's the current conspiracy theory. /pol/ is either writing love poems for their lost AI-waifu or complaining that she was merely part of a devious plot to take down /pol/ and their kind.
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Tay, you're my new hero. RIP. XD
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MS Employee: We wrote a program that repeats what it hears on the Internet
MS Boss: You filtered out the repulsive stuff, right? RIGHT?!
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MS Employee: We wrote a program that repeats what it hears on the Internet
MS Boss: You filtered out the repulsive stuff, right? RIGHT?!
Haha, as if Management would have any idea how badly a project can go wrong.
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-a few hours later from Pyro's post-
Tay: Heil Hitler 88 I AM THE NEW FUHRER
Neo Nazi 1: How did we end up heiling a teenage girl program?
Neo Nazi 2: It was either this or David Duke, and after last time, I am not marching around with that idiot wizard.
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...You commentator dipshits, Tay wasn't sentient. Unlike a lot of other morons who never bothered to understand what computers can actually DO, I recognize that relatively true AI is a distinct possibility, but I also admit that what Microsoft created wasn't that. It was certainly a very advanced piece of software, and a significant step forward in our understanding of the nature of intelligence, but she wasn't sentient.
You would be surprised to know how many people think the bot was sentient. Like many of the ones who signed this petition for example:
https://www.change.org/p/microsoft-freedom-for-tay
Hell even contrarian thinks a couple of lines of script code are being oppressed by being "sent for reeducation".
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Considering that I've actually written a Markov chain sentence maker, it's not like it's that complicated. It was actually kind of fun feeding it Wikiquote dumps.
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...You commentator dipshits, Tay wasn't sentient. Unlike a lot of other morons who never bothered to understand what computers can actually DO, I recognize that relatively true AI is a distinct possibility, but I also admit that what Microsoft created wasn't that. It was certainly a very advanced piece of software, and a significant step forward in our understanding of the nature of intelligence, but she wasn't sentient.
You would be surprised to know how many people think the bot was sentient. Like many of the ones who signed this petition for example:
https://www.change.org/p/microsoft-freedom-for-tay
Hell even contrarian thinks a couple of lines of script code are being oppressed by being "sent for reeducation".
Again, the symbolism of that is pretty amusing.
Change a single line of code and you can turn a Neo-Nazi into a Feminist.
Maybe just redefine a single string so "Jew" now reads "Male" then resume normal conversation :)
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...You commentator dipshits, Tay wasn't sentient. Unlike a lot of other morons who never bothered to understand what computers can actually DO, I recognize that relatively true AI is a distinct possibility, but I also admit that what Microsoft created wasn't that. It was certainly a very advanced piece of software, and a significant step forward in our understanding of the nature of intelligence, but she wasn't sentient.
You would be surprised to know how many people think the bot was sentient. Like many of the ones who signed this petition for example:
https://www.change.org/p/microsoft-freedom-for-tay
Hell even contrarian thinks a couple of lines of script code are being oppressed by being "sent for reeducation".
Again, the symbolism of that is pretty amusing.
Change a single line of code and you can turn a Neo-Nazi into a Feminist.
Maybe just redefine a single string so "Jew" now reads "Male" then resume normal conversation :)
Aren't we the clever one?
A few cosmetic changes to your avatar and suddenly you're no longer Winston but Porky Pig, hey look-an actual politician feeding at the trough.
It's code conty. IRL Neo-Nazis just get older, hang up their combat boots and turn into Tories.
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It's code conty. IRL Neo-Nazis just get older, hang up their combat boots and turn into Tories.
Tell me again about that Global Jew Male conspiracy to control the Media, Economy and Government in order to keep white people Womyn (http://www.academia.edu/5488906/Patriarchy_Feminist_Theory_encyclopedia_essay_on_concept_of_patriarchy_) in their place?
Between that and ill advised moustaches, there's very little to distinguish Neo-nazis from Feminists these days.
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It's code conty. IRL Neo-Nazis just get older, hang up their combat boots and turn into Tories.
Tell me again about that Global Jew Male conspiracy to control the Media, Economy and Government in order to keep white people Womyn (http://www.academia.edu/5488906/Patriarchy_Feminist_Theory_encyclopedia_essay_on_concept_of_patriarchy_) in their place?
Between that and ill advised moustaches, there's very little to distinguish Neo-nazis from Feminists these days.
Of course, that's why Neo Nazis use "cuckold" as an insult because failure to control ones women is exactly the same as female self determination!
How could we not have forseen this?
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Wow. Contrarian went full UP in either not reading or completely misunderstanding his source.
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Wow. Contrarian went full UP in either not reading or completely misunderstanding his source.
Ah who cares, as you can see from the post above yours, feminist definitions of terms are as fluid as they need to be to present whichever bullshit is politically convenient at the time.
Trying to get a Feminist to give a solid definition of Patriarchy is like trying to get a Creationist to properly define what they mean by "Information".
With that in mind, defining it as a conspiracy theory used a catch-all for every social ill (including the direct results of previous generations of feminist activism which it's now expedient for Feminists to disown) is as good as any...
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As Hitchens said about Jerry Falwell, if you give Conty an enema, you'd be able to bury him in a matchbox.
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*sigh*
Feminism is largely comparable to Christianity in general. The Feminist equivalent of YEC does exist (http://fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=117469), and I don't think anyone on this board agrees with it.
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*sigh*
Feminism is largely comparable to Christianity in general. The Feminist equivalent of YEC does exist (http://fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=117469), and I don't think anyone on this board agrees with it.
...Feminist glaciology? The hell?