The state of California's GOP

[PosthumanHeresy]

The sad part is...that'd actually work.

That's why I say we do it. It's not about how we achieve the goal, it's about the goal itself. Who here thinks that it was wrong for Lincoln to use underhanded measures to win the Civil War? What about all the spying, destruction of cities and other stuff in World War 2? Human rights are too important to play fair.

I always thought it was because cars with liberal bumper stickers are more likely to be vandalized.

That's part of my point. We're allowing ourselves to be scared into silence.

[mythbuster43]

Didn't Ronald Reagan win all but 3 counties in California during the Election of 1980?

[Witchyjoshy]

That's a pretty bricky wall of text there, PHH :/ would it have hurt you to separate things into paragraphs?

That being said, there's some studies that show that people with bumper stickers, no matter which side they belong to, are more likely to be the same kinda people who drive like an asshole on the road.

Personal experience points towards this being true.  Saw someone with a COEXIST bumper sticker who sure wasn't interested in coexisting with other people on the road.

[KZN02]

Does that study apply to vanity license plates?

[R. U. Sirius]

I have a few bumper stickers, but I try to be a careful driver. Won't claim I always succeed...I sometimes let myself get distracted when I shouldn't. But I try.

[Witchyjoshy]

Does that study apply to vanity license plates?

Dunno.

[gyeonghwa]

Hopefully some Californian 3rd party will rise up and strike the nail in the coffin.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha 3rd party. You're funny.

He's actually not.  At the State and Local level, third parties are actually pretty viable.  It's when you're hitting the national scene they start to become...not.

Ironbite-Presidential...forget it.

IIRC Vermont had some legit socialists at the state level.

[Cataclysm]

Bernie Sanders describes himself as a democratic socialist, although I'm not if the Vermont Progressive Party could be described as such

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermont_Progressive_Party

8 seats in lower houses.

[mythbuster43]

Hopefully some Californian 3rd party will rise up and strike the nail in the coffin.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha 3rd party. You're funny.

He's actually not.  At the State and Local level, third parties are actually pretty viable.  It's when you're hitting the national scene they start to become...not.

Ironbite-Presidential...forget it.

IIRC Vermont had some legit socialists at the state level.

Interestingly enough, Vermont is another state that once had a very strong Republican party that has become irrelevant. In fact, Vermont was a one-party Republican state from 1857-1959. Well into the 1970s it was overwhelmingly Republican. Nowadays the GOP barely exists at all in that state.

[lord gibbon]

It really can be amazing how much a state's political standing can change. Here in Colorado, it's been less than a decade from when we had a Republican governor, senators, most house representatives, and both houses of the state congress, to now, when the Democrats control all those seats.

[PosthumanHeresy]

That's a pretty bricky wall of text there, PHH :/ would it have hurt you to separate things into paragraphs?

That being said, there's some studies that show that people with bumper stickers, no matter which side they belong to, are more likely to be the same kinda people who drive like an asshole on the road.

Personal experience points towards this being true.  Saw someone with a COEXIST bumper sticker who sure wasn't interested in coexisting with other people on the road.

Sorry. And, yeah, my parents both have a few, with my dad having more and being the saner of the two when it comes to driving. He's in his mid-40s and has gotten one ticket in his life. My mother's a year and six days younger than him and has gotten more than I can count.

[Witchyjoshy]

Like I said, it's an issue of "more likely."  It's not a guarantee.

Kinda like how the kinds of people who buy red cars are more likely to speed.  (Which, incidentally, also leads to police paying more attention to red cars, thus making them more likely to be pulled over when they speed)

[Askold]

But, red uns go fasta...

Every ork knows that.