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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #330 on: April 22, 2012, 01:30:23 am »


EDIT: Because of the new page I added the pic.

So, I googled the term "cotton ceiling" and most of the things I found were blog posts where the writers were explaining how they don't think trans women are REAL women and should not be considered so.

They all did start the post with "I'm not transphobic" or "at the risk of sounding transphobic" so, yay for additional irony. (Just once I'd like to have someone start a conversation with I'm not racist/bigot/homophobe/etc. and then prove that the claim IS true.)

One post did claim that the term cotton ceiling refers to the panties of an lesbian and simply means the fact that lesbians don't want to have sex with men.

Although in that case I really don't get what Lexikon's pic is supposed to mean. (Is it supposed to be ironic?)


Ps. On the subject of "cotton ceiling" On one hand, demanding that a person should have sex with you just because you are of the gender/sex that the other person's orientation should prefer is not cool. If I walk up to an random hetero-woman and demand that she should have sex with me because I am a man it would not be "ok," since, you know, people have a right to decide who they fuck. Besides it takes more than gender for sexual attraction. (appearance, personality, etc.)

On the other hand... Those on the other side of the debate did not reply with "What if that particular lesbian just isn't attracted to you." Their reply is "We won't have sex with any transwomen since you aren't real women." Or as one person said: "Sit down, shut up, and read a book (or a blog). We will be over here, having fabulous queer sex without you." (In other context that would be a cool statement.)

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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #331 on: April 22, 2012, 01:46:58 am »
"men" meaning MTF transsexuals.

Basically Planned Parenthood tried to organize a meeting trying to help MtF transexuals to get into relationships, and cue a bunch of radfems screaming that it was rape.
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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #332 on: April 22, 2012, 02:00:38 am »
"men" meaning MTF transsexuals.

Basically Planned Parenthood tried to organize a meeting trying to help MtF transexuals to get into relationships, and cue a bunch of radfems screaming that it was rape.

So I actually was on topic?!
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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #333 on: April 22, 2012, 02:20:13 am »
MTF people are not men.  They are women.

It's not about "curing lesbians".  It's about being your true self, making your body match who you really are.  Sometimes, these transwomen are lesbians.  It happens.

Fuck it... -_-
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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #334 on: April 22, 2012, 02:29:02 am »


I thought "curing lesbians" meant a guy raping them to make them straight. I've never understood the logic of that. There's also straight guys who rape gay guys to turn them straight. How the hell does that make any sense at all?
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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #335 on: April 22, 2012, 03:29:54 am »
MTF people are not men.  They are women.

It's not about "curing lesbians".  It's about being your true self, making your body match who you really are.  Sometimes, these transwomen are lesbians.  It happens.

Fuck it... -_-

On the same token, some people think FTMs are trying to destroy feminism and taking advantage of patriarchy to get a 'higher place in society'. I don't understand any of that logic, myself. Said FTMs can also 'become' gay males.

As for 'curing lesbians' by raping them... yeah. That's some really funky logic and heartbreaking.

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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #336 on: April 22, 2012, 09:16:39 am »


I thought "curing lesbians" meant a guy raping them to make them straight. I've never understood the logic of that.

The train of thought here is that MtF transsexuals are still men, and thus by trying to enter into a lesbian relationship they are corrupting it by sneaking their "male-ness" in under the lie of presenting themselves as female to a prospective partner. Since lesbians, pretty much by definition, don't want to have sex with men, there is this sentiment that it's just another covert attempt to force them into a straight (male-female) partnership against their will, and is thus identical to a "normal" straight man raping them straight.

It's a horrible convoluted and insulting mess of a conclusion, and I most certainly do not agree with it in any capacity.

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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #337 on: April 22, 2012, 09:58:05 am »


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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #338 on: April 22, 2012, 11:08:05 am »
Ok, this time I really DO need a translation.  What's going on in the breastfeeding picture?
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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #339 on: April 22, 2012, 11:52:12 am »
Ok, this time I really DO need a translation.  What's going on in the breastfeeding picture?

Looks like the man is just talking to the woman, even though she has her breast out. Contrast to the two men turning around to look at the woman in a burka.
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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #340 on: April 22, 2012, 12:15:33 pm »
Ok, this time I really DO need a translation.  What's going on in the breastfeeding picture?

Looks like the man is just talking to the woman, even though she has her breast out. Contrast to the two men turning around to look at the woman in a burka.

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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #341 on: April 22, 2012, 02:18:17 pm »
Looks like the man is just talking to the woman, even though she has her breast out. Contrast to the two men turning around to look at the woman in a burka.

Slightly undercut by the man behind him who might be looking at her boob.
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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #342 on: April 22, 2012, 02:39:45 pm »
How the hell can you perv over a woman in burka?

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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #343 on: April 22, 2012, 02:45:10 pm »
How the hell can you perv over a woman in burka?
Ankles were risque at one point in Western history. Same logic.
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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #344 on: April 22, 2012, 03:03:23 pm »
How the hell can you perv over a woman in burka?
Ankles were risque at one point in Western history. Same logic.

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