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Re: Scientists have grown the embryos of a extinct species
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2013, 06:57:57 pm »
...Assuming the DNA of a neanderthal was available, would they be able to grow one in a human or something?  :o

A little while back there was a scientist who was offering cash to a woman who would volunteer to gestate the first Neanderthal fetus and deliver it by C-section.
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Re: Scientists have grown the embryos of a extinct species
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2013, 12:11:23 am »
i hope they can bring back the Thylacine...

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Re: Scientists have grown the embryos of a extinct species
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2013, 02:12:19 am »
I think that as science improves, the viability of literally returning extinct species to life will become a reality. After managing to get something extinct to actually survive to adulthood, the next step is figuring out how to "customize" DNA to basically build our own  genetic material. That opens the door to unbelievable possibilities regarding cloning.

And actually, both of those parts are steadily progressing. The hard part is sequencing the genome of what you want; DNA doesn't last more than a million years usually, and you need a parent species anyways (at least until we're able to totally customize biology and build our own eggs to fertilize). Dodo? Pretty easy if we can find DNA. Dinosaurs? Not so much.
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Re: Scientists have grown the embryos of a extinct species
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2013, 02:17:32 am »
This just can't end well.  Hasn't anybody watched Jurassic Park!?
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Re: Scientists have grown the embryos of a extinct species
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2013, 02:44:46 am »
This just can't end well.  Hasn't anybody watched Jurassic Park!?

Sure. A bunch of carnivorous and highly dangerous monsters are built without government approval, but remain strictly under control and restricted to a single pair of islands until the protagonists break them out of captivity and intentionally sabotage the efforts of the only competent people around in the name of "wildlife preservation" until a T-Rex is unleashed on San Francisco.
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Re: Scientists have grown the embryos of a extinct species
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2013, 02:55:25 am »
I can see this being used to bring back delicious species, such as the Beluga and the dodo.

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Re: Scientists have grown the embryos of a extinct species
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2013, 03:02:20 am »
the next step is figuring out how to "customize" DNA to basically build our own  genetic material. That opens the door to unbelievable possibilities regarding cloning.
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Re: Scientists have grown the embryos of a extinct species
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2013, 03:15:25 am »
...Assuming the DNA of a neanderthal was available, would they be able to grow one in a human or something?  :o

A little while back there was a scientist who was offering cash to a woman who would volunteer to gestate the first Neanderthal fetus and deliver it by C-section.

I remember reading about that. It was actually a misquote of a scientist who was interviewed for a German magazine (Der Spiegel I think) and it was actually him talking about a hypothetical situation.

I think that as science improves, the viability of literally returning extinct species to life will become a reality. After managing to get something extinct to actually survive to adulthood, the next step is figuring out how to "customize" DNA to basically build our own  genetic material. That opens the door to unbelievable possibilities regarding cloning.

And actually, both of those parts are steadily progressing. The hard part is sequencing the genome of what you want; DNA doesn't last more than a million years usually, and you need a parent species anyways (at least until we're able to totally customize biology and build our own eggs to fertilize). Dodo? Pretty easy if we can find DNA. Dinosaurs? Not so much.

You know how birds are said to be some of the closest descendants to dinosaurs? Well I remember seeing a program on the Science Channel or something that explored this. One thing they did was take a chicken egg and they changed the DNA so that certain "switches" where either flipped on or off so as to achieve the result they wanted. As the embryo grew it was observed to be behaving as predicted in that it grew a longer tail, teeth like structures on the beak, and other traits that made it look very dinosaur like. They ended up destroying it before it was close to hatching. I've always wondered what would happen if such a creature was allowed to grow until it hatched... We need to use a ostrich egg next time though.
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Re: Scientists have grown the embryos of a extinct species
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2013, 03:20:12 am »
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I can see this being used to bring back delicious species, such as the Beluga and the dodo.

This is actually an interesting proposition: what will the meat and animal products industry look like if science is able to freely and cheaply clone all sorts of species, including extinct ones? Will dodo cutlet become the new filet mignon if they can be grown?

This goes hand-in-hand with the thread on "printing body parts" and "printing bacon", where lab-grown cells are rapidly combined into tissue. Proper scientific endeavors will be a great boon for agriculture, as there will be less restrictions on land usage and fewer ethical problems with lab-grown meat.

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You know how birds are said to be some of the closest descendants to dinosaurs? Well I remember seeing a program on the Science Channel or something that explored this. One thing they did was take a chicken egg and they changed the DNA so that certain "switches" where either flipped on or off so as to achieve the result they wanted. As the embryo grew it was observed to be behaving as predicted in that it grew a longer tail, teeth like structures on the beak, and other traits that made it look very dinosaur like. They ended up destroying it before it was close to hatching. I've always wondered what would happen if such a creature was allowed to grow until it hatched... We need to use a ostrich egg next time though.

"Cloning dinosaurs" will probably turn out a lot like the Jurassic Park novel: Wu notes to Hammond that they're not REALLY cloning dinosaurs, but rather making new monsters that have never existed in nature that just seem like dinosaurs. While actually bringing a dinosaur back to life is extremely difficult, creating a custom species that greatly resembles dinosaurs is much easier.
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Re: Scientists have grown the embryos of a extinct species
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2013, 10:24:06 am »
"Cloning dinosaurs" will probably turn out a lot like the Jurassic Park novel: Wu notes to Hammond that they're not REALLY cloning dinosaurs, but rather making new monsters that have never existed in nature that just seem like dinosaurs. While actually bringing a dinosaur back to life is extremely difficult, creating a custom species that greatly resembles dinosaurs is much easier.

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Re: Scientists have grown the embryos of a extinct species
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2013, 02:06:02 pm »
This just can't end well.  Hasn't anybody watched Jurassic Park!?
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Re: Scientists have grown the embryos of a extinct species
« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2013, 11:50:02 pm »
Sure. A bunch of carnivorous and highly dangerous monsters are built without government approval, but remain strictly under control and restricted to a single pair of islands until the protagonists break them out of captivity and intentionally sabotage the efforts of the only competent people around in the name of "wildlife preservation" until a T-Rex is unleashed on San Francisco.

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Re: Scientists have grown the embryos of a extinct species
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2013, 08:19:14 am »
Allosaurus is actually my favorite animal, but as no dinosaur DNA has ever been found (or is likely to be found) I doubt there's any way to bring one back to life.

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Re: Scientists have grown the embryos of a extinct species
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2013, 12:34:40 pm »
If Wu continues with chicken embryo gene manipulation, he could sorta "resurrect" an  Archaeopteryx analog

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I wanna see a giant sloth, though (use a grizzly bear to gestate it maybe?)

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Re: Scientists have grown the embryos of a extinct species
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2013, 07:24:50 pm »
Allosaurus is actually my favorite animal, but as no dinosaur DNA has ever been found (or is likely to be found) I doubt there's any way to bring one back to life.

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