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Re: Necessity of War
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2012, 09:28:10 pm »
  Or Hussein and the Kurds. Keeping with Hussein for a second, he rolled his Republican Guards into Kuwait back in 1991.

With the explicit support of his ally, the United States. And diplomacy didn't work; Saddam Hussein was withdrawing from Kuwait when the Americans blew them apart, almost destroying any justification for the conflict.
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« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2012, 11:35:17 pm »
Diplomacy didn't work. That was the point Fred.
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Re: Necessity of War
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2012, 01:16:13 am »
Diplomacy didn't work. That was the point Fred.

You're absolutely right. Diplomacy failed to prevent Saddam leaving Iraq, a failure.
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Re: Necessity of War
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2012, 01:16:09 pm »
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Re: Necessity of War
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2012, 08:39:06 pm »
By Iraq I mean Kuwait. American diplomacy failed to convince Saddam to stay in Iraq so the US army could smash him for staying.
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« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2012, 09:21:30 pm »
Personally, while I support world peace as an ideal, I'm of the belief that should we ever reach that ideal, we should still keep our weapons and our martial training.

A peaceful utopia only lasts until one person gets the idea to no longer be peaceful.  When attacked, one should know how to fight back, and have the means necessary to.

Imagine, world peace, everyone's weapons are destroyed, no more military... and then one country kept their weapons and military and proceed to invade the rest of the fucking world.

Brilliant fucking plan.

That's why stuff like game theory is often used to model international relations.  Military buildups are basically a multiplayer version of the prisoner's dilemma.

A better strategy would be to use the same R&D apparatus that we use for national defense and use it for stuff like alternative energy development.  Of course, investment and purchase decisions are also subject to game theoretical analysis in a competitive world, but that's beside the point.
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Re: Necessity of War
« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2012, 10:32:30 pm »
What isn't, ultimately, subject to game-theoretical analysis?
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« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2012, 11:21:36 pm »
What isn't, ultimately, subject to game-theoretical analysis?

Most multi-party decisions are.  But I don't want to make this thread about game theory because honestly, I can't remember enough of the math involved to do all the calculations.   :-[
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Re: Necessity of War
« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2012, 11:57:42 pm »
Don't ask me man, I'm a Pacifist.
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