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Title: Guest Verified: "Psychology is not a science" and "PhDs are just clubs"
Post by: BobRumba on May 25, 2018, 09:58:39 am
It's incredible how one person can sit there arguing after making statements that suggest a level of stupidity that makes Amos Moses look like Galileo.

Basically, I can't even.  Just go here and read for yourself.

https://disqus.com/home/discussion/christiannewsnetwork/two_wisconsin_residents_with_gender_dysphoria_sue_state_as_transsexual_surgeries_not_covered_by_medi/

He keeps trying to corner everyone with not having some conclusive gene to back up their claims.
Title: Re: Guest Verified: "Psychology is not a science" and "PhDs are just clubs"
Post by: BobRumba on May 25, 2018, 10:51:31 am
Things are tensing up in that discussion and the Christian News Network censor is probably getting ready to clean house, so here's a snapshot of things as they stand, pre-censorship:

http://archive.is/kXLc7 (http://archive.is/IxtAx)
Title: Re: Guest Verified: "Psychology is not a science" and "PhDs are just clubs"
Post by: KingOfRhye on May 25, 2018, 11:29:45 am
Essentially, the "argument" was like this:  (or at least the parts of it that I could understand)

Guest:  Everything you say about gender dysphoria is wrong because they haven't found a "trans gene"!

Me:  I never said there was a "trans gene" found.

Guest:  But there's no "trans gene" so you're wrong!

Me:  But I just said.....(etc.)


I guess because science hasn't proven it's genetic, (but hasn't DISproven it either, mind you) he thinks it doesn't exist??  I don't know, I was having a hard time understanding his line of thought, if you can call it that.
Title: Re: Guest Verified: "Psychology is not a science" and "PhDs are just clubs"
Post by: BobRumba on May 25, 2018, 11:32:34 am
I have always said Guest Verified was a game player.  And here we see him playing one of his games: he's trying to trap everyone into the false logic that goes something like "if a trans gene cannot be found, then you have no argument".

And he should make clear why a claim like that holds water first (spoiler alert: it doesn't) and should be called out every time he tries to drag people kicking and screaming back to it.

Mind you he also called Amos "brilliant" in this thread, so again, serious responses to him are a judicial matter.
Title: Re: Guest Verified: "Psychology is not a science" and "PhDs are just clubs"
Post by: KingOfRhye on May 25, 2018, 11:47:19 am
Mind you he also called Amos "brilliant" in this thread, so again, serious responses to him are a judicial matter.

Yeah, it was a good thing I wasn't drinking anything when I read that or I would have spat it out all over my computer.
Title: Re: Guest Verified: "Psychology is not a science" and "PhDs are just clubs"
Post by: BobRumba on May 25, 2018, 11:48:38 am
"YetAnotherSockAccount" called him out for it pretty well already, LOL.
Title: Re: Guest Verified: "Psychology is not a science" and "PhDs are just clubs"
Post by: niam2023 on May 25, 2018, 01:37:50 pm
I will never understand why you guys get so worked up over a server and make all these plans and such over what looks to me like little more than Breitbart wearing very thin sheep's clothing.
Title: Re: Guest Verified: "Psychology is not a science" and "PhDs are just clubs"
Post by: BobRumba on May 25, 2018, 02:36:52 pm
I will never understand why you guys get so worked up over a server and make all these plans and such over what looks to me like little more than Breitbart wearing very thin sheep's clothing.

Presumably you originally joined a website called "Fundies Say the Darndest Things" because you were either annoyed or amused by the rantings of evangelicals.

So you must have SOME idea.
Title: Re: Guest Verified: "Psychology is not a science" and "PhDs are just clubs"
Post by: Bob J. on May 25, 2018, 02:45:20 pm
I will never understand why you guys get so worked up over a server and make all these plans and such over what looks to me like little more than Breitbart wearing very thin sheep's clothing.

Not really worked up. More like getting a view into how other people think. A little break from the daily routine. And no planning is done just s a side channel to share stories and pontificate with like minded souls. Unlike KingOfRhye, I have been known to be drinking coffee while reading some of these remarks.


Also: afchief aka B1jetmech is back
Title: Re: Guest Verified: "Psychology is not a science" and "PhDs are just clubs"
Post by: BobRumba on May 25, 2018, 02:53:56 pm
Also: afchief aka B1jetmech is back

that's afchief????
Title: Re: Guest Verified: "Psychology is not a science" and "PhDs are just clubs"
Post by: KingOfRhye on May 25, 2018, 03:34:02 pm
Also: afchief aka B1jetmech is back

that's afchief????

Now I want to say something about a Supreme Court ruling to him, and see if he loses his mind.
Title: Re: Guest Verified: "Psychology is not a science" and "PhDs are just clubs"
Post by: Bob J. on May 25, 2018, 04:53:17 pm
Now I want to say something about a Supreme Court ruling to him, and see if he loses his mind.

“A mime is a terrible thing to waste.” - Robin Hood Men in Tights

He has already started
From B1jetmech
Quote
“That's why public property must remain strictly neutral.”

The problem is that is not in the Constitution. There are supreme court rulings yes, but the supreme court has been wrong before when it came to former slaves having standing to sue in court(Dredd Scott) upholding segregation(Plessy vs. Ferguson) and japanese interment camps during WWII(Kormatsu).

Preventing displays like 10 commandments goes against "free exercise of" in the first amendment.

And from earlier in the same post
Quote
You know something? it wasn't funny. It's not funny because there are people out there who actually worship satan and kill people and animals in sacrifices in secret ceremonies. It's really no laughing matter but this atheist doesn't care. Satanists like new born babies the most because they consider their souls the most pure.
So if I come off sounding a little hostile is because of people like that.
Title: Re: Guest Verified: "Psychology is not a science" and "PhDs are just clubs"
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 25, 2018, 05:04:36 pm
Meh, just ignore Niam.  He's our resident, eh, sociopath shitposter.  Like me, but less funny.
Title: Re: Guest Verified: "Psychology is not a science" and "PhDs are just clubs"
Post by: niam2023 on May 25, 2018, 05:07:48 pm
My sense of humor ranges from gallows to literally the worst.

And yeah, admittedly, it is rather hypocritical - but it does seem like a lot of effort to put into one fundamentalist echo chamber. Heck, this is the first place I ever heard of Disqus.
Title: Re: Guest Verified: "Psychology is not a science" and "PhDs are just clubs"
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 25, 2018, 05:09:22 pm
Disqus is everywhere, you just need to come out from under your rock, ya cracker.  Though, I think it might not be as popular a general talky platform as, say, Reddit.  Still, tonnes of sites use it, like TorrentFreak.
Title: Re: Guest Verified: "Psychology is not a science" and "PhDs are just clubs"
Post by: BobRumba on May 25, 2018, 05:43:29 pm
My sense of humor ranges from gallows to literally the worst.

And yeah, admittedly, it is rather hypocritical - but it does seem like a lot of effort to put into one fundamentalist echo chamber. Heck, this is the first place I ever heard of Disqus.

No, I get it.  Lots of people I know say they’d rather wipe their arses with sandpaper than engage with evangelical lunatics.  What can I say, one man’s sport..
Title: Re: Guest Verified: "Psychology is not a science" and "PhDs are just clubs"
Post by: Lana Reverse on May 25, 2018, 05:46:56 pm
Maybe you could accuse him of sounding like a Scientologist. I doubt he'd take that well.
Title: Re: Guest Verified: "Psychology is not a science" and "PhDs are just clubs"
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 25, 2018, 07:19:05 pm
I prefer the view from the peanut gallery, but I can at least understand the appeal.  Poking the dumb monkeys and watching them fling their dung everywhere is amusing as hell.
Title: Re: Guest Verified: "Psychology is not a science" and "PhDs are just clubs"
Post by: BobRumba on May 25, 2018, 10:54:36 pm
I prefer the view from the peanut gallery, but I can at least understand the appeal.  Poking the dumb monkeys and watching them fling their dung everywhere is amusing as hell.

Yeah, the peanut gallery used to suit me just fine too, but once you get engaging with them, it's a whole new ballgame.
Title: Re: Guest Verified: "Psychology is not a science" and "PhDs are just clubs"
Post by: KingOfRhye on May 26, 2018, 07:43:00 am
Like I said in those comments, I thought that "Satanic Panic" stuff (that B1jetmech was going on about) went out of style in the '80s.

And maybe Doug Bristow's adding to it, too, since he said a Christian monument doesn't infringe on anyone's religious freedom, but then in the next sentence said "And NO you cannot put a monument to Satan next to it or anywhere else in our town."  I guess he's only interested in his OWN religious freedom.
Title: Re: Guest Verified: "Psychology is not a science" and "PhDs are just clubs"
Post by: Ambulance Chaser on May 26, 2018, 01:56:19 pm
I don’t see anything B1jetmech has said that would indicate he’s the same person as afchief. Afchief believed that Supreme Court rulings, all of them, were just polite suggestions that no one had to follow. He was also insanely over-the-top, constantly screaming in all caps, laughing at people, “singing” condescending songs, etc.

All this guy said was that the Supreme Court has been wrong before. While that statement may be correct in some senses of the word, it’s an irrelevant position as a matter of law. It is, however, nowhere near as gleefully, utterly, and completely wrong as afchief was, nor is his posting style as insane or childish.