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Title: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: dpareja on April 15, 2013, 03:25:53 pm
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/04/15/boston-marathon-explosion.html (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/04/15/boston-marathon-explosion.html)

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Two explosions at the finish line of the Boston Marathon have resulted in injuries.

Bloody spectators were being carried Monday to the medical tent that had been set up to care for fatigued runners. Police wove through competitors as they ran back toward the course.

Still too early to say what happened, but I hope everyone recovers.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: mellenORL on April 15, 2013, 03:48:57 pm
I'm really aching to know who the fuck did this! So cowardly, so vicious, so savage.... >:(
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Sleepy on April 15, 2013, 03:50:33 pm
I just heard about this. I had a friend in the marathon, and thankfully he's okay. I hope all the other runners are safe, too.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Barbarella on April 15, 2013, 03:53:04 pm
I'd like to know what the heck happened! Probably some fanatic with a backpack-bomb.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Cerim Treascair on April 15, 2013, 03:55:53 pm
Cue the GOP bawling about terrorism (especially if it was just some random crazy fucknugget that snapped) and stripping away more liberties in 3... 2...
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: ThunderWulf on April 15, 2013, 03:56:29 pm
Holy shit.  Heard about this just earlier. I live in Mass. and my mom has ran the Boston Marathon before. I know exactly the spot they're talking about. That's freaking scary. Hope nobody was killed.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Cerim Treascair on April 15, 2013, 04:09:18 pm
Holy shit.  Heard about this just earlier. I live in Mass. and my mom has ran the Boston Marathon before. I know exactly the spot they're talking about. That's freaking scary. Hope nobody was killed.

Reporting 2 dead, 22 wounded at this time via CBS.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Meshakhad on April 15, 2013, 04:14:19 pm
Holy shit.  Heard about this just earlier. I live in Mass. and my mom has ran the Boston Marathon before. I know exactly the spot they're talking about. That's freaking scary. Hope nobody was killed.

Reporting 2 dead, 22 wounded at this time via CBS.

Al-Jazeera (http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2013/04/2013415191144419266.html) has the same figures.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: RinellaWasHere on April 15, 2013, 04:18:41 pm
One of the wounded is a very close friend, like a sister to me. Holy shit holy shit holy shit.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: dpareja on April 15, 2013, 04:21:31 pm
Holy shit.  Heard about this just earlier. I live in Mass. and my mom has ran the Boston Marathon before. I know exactly the spot they're talking about. That's freaking scary. Hope nobody was killed.

Reporting 2 dead, 22 wounded at this time via CBS.

CBC has 2 dead, 23 injured now.

I don't know anyone who I know ran the Boston Marathon this year, but my heart goes out to the friends and families of the dead and wounded.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: ThunderWulf on April 15, 2013, 04:24:06 pm
Just heard from a customer at work that it's 3 dead and 24 injured now apparently.  And also found out that one of the partimer's mom is running the marathon today. No word on whether or not she was caught in it.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Delirium on April 15, 2013, 04:26:41 pm
One of the wounded is a very close friend, like a sister to me. Holy shit holy shit holy shit.

I'm so sorry. :(
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Radiation on April 15, 2013, 04:28:28 pm
This is absolutely barbaric, I read about this on Facebook; it's mad that this world is getting more violent. I am hoping that it's not Muslim extremists and that it's just some crazy person, which of course would make the image of mental illness worse. Either way I feel bad about those that have been killed or injured.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: nickiknack on April 15, 2013, 04:29:58 pm
Cue the GOP bawling about terrorism (especially if it was just some random crazy fucknugget that snapped) and stripping away more liberties in 3... 2...

My thoughts exactly...also do you mind if I start using the term "fucknugget" from now on??
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: TheUnknown on April 15, 2013, 04:30:38 pm
NBC reports police found a third bomb that they detonated with a controlled explosion.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: ThunderWulf on April 15, 2013, 04:33:38 pm
The parttimer at my work apparently has not heard from her mom yet. Her mom was done but was waiting for her husband at the finish line. No idea if she's okay or not.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Cerim Treascair on April 15, 2013, 04:36:14 pm
just heard that they may have found two more possible explosives.

Nicki:  By all means.  I actually picked the term up from my dad, so go ahead.

Also, to everybody else, I'm getting my news from Fark right now, with CBS on behind me.  Fark has five or six links up on their main page.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Her3tiK on April 15, 2013, 04:40:07 pm
Bloomberg is running a live stream of the incident, for anyone looking to stay up-to-date on the situation.
http://www.bloomberg.com/live-stream/

On a side note, I get that FB can be a downright strange place sometimes, but the absolute lack of people on my friend's list who seem to have noticed this is a little surprising.
Title: Bombs at the Boston Marathon
Post by: erictheblue on April 15, 2013, 04:42:50 pm
About 2:50 local time, at least 1 explosion went off at the finish line of the Boston Marathon. Eyewitnesses reported 2 explosions, but local officials said it is possible it was just 1 explosion that sounded like 2.

According to Boston Police, there have been 2 fatalities and 23 injured.

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/04/15/17764977-explosions-near-finish-line-at-boston-marathon?lite (http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/04/15/17764977-explosions-near-finish-line-at-boston-marathon?lite)


I cannot help thinking domestic terrorism. The leaders had crossed the finish line about an hour before, but, of course, other runners were still coming through.

Snagging a few comments from Maddow Blog...

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I have a feeling this is all that Anti-Government coming home to roost

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e don't know much right now but the first place to look are those anti-government right winged militia groups. These right winged groups are afraid they have lost their country with President Obama getting reelected. Personally, I have been expecting more domestic terrorism attacks from these anti-government groups but like I see it is too preliminary to jump to conclusions.


Edit: Some comments from a friend of mine who grew up in Ireland during The Troubles.

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Bombs: the ultimate weapon of the coward. Swift justice on whoever is responsible for this.

 Always were, always will be. The Troubles, the Omagh bombing, Canary Wharf, Oklahoma City, Unabomber, the Warrington bombs, Dublin and Monaghan bombing, proxy bombing - all of them. Fucking cowards who do it.

This is what happens when fuckheads make bombs. It's that simple. I grew up around this shit and hated it then and hated it now. A few utter degenerates murdering innocents - that's all.

I don't wanna hear how evil the US/Ireland/Iraqis are. That's bullshit. There is *no* possible justification or provocation for murdering innocent citizens. (This was in answer to someone saying this is what happens when a government does things that piss people off.)
Title: Re: Bombs at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Her3tiK on April 15, 2013, 04:49:36 pm
We've got like 3 of these threads already.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: RinellaWasHere on April 15, 2013, 04:49:37 pm
God fucking damn it, who the fuck bombs a fucking marathon?
Title: Re: Bombs at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Scotsgit on April 15, 2013, 04:49:54 pm
BBC has live coverage:  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-22160978 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-22160978)
Title: Re: Bombs at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Id82 on April 15, 2013, 04:50:04 pm
Well it's not really fair to jump to conclusions with out actual information as to what happened.
To say it's right wing domestic terrorism is no more fair than saying that this was a false flag created by anti gun and violence groups to start banning guns.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: ThunderWulf on April 15, 2013, 04:51:21 pm
So the parttimer's mom is okay, but no word on the husband. A couple other people I know may have been down there too.  I don't think I'll stop worrying until I hear from them.

This may sound selfish, but I'm kind of glad my mom isn't running it this year.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Søren on April 15, 2013, 04:52:12 pm
 
God fucking damn it, who the fuck bombs a fucking marathon?

People like blowing up other people. So...anyone that woke up on the wrong side of the bed and sees a massed group of people
Title: Re: Bombs at the Boston Marathon
Post by: erictheblue on April 15, 2013, 04:52:28 pm
We've got like 3 of these threads already.

And I even looked for threads before starting this one.. (sigh)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Scotsgit on April 15, 2013, 04:52:32 pm
BBC is running live streaming from it:  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-22160978 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-22160978)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Sleepy on April 15, 2013, 04:52:58 pm
So the parttimer's mom is okay, but no word on the husband. A couple other people I know may have been down there too.  I don't think I'll stop worrying until I hear from them.

This may sound selfish, but I'm kind of glad my mom isn't running it this year.


I know people were being asked not to use cell phones to avoid possibly triggering any other devices that had been planted. I'm sure cell volume is insane anyway, so hopefully that's the reason.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Scotsgit on April 15, 2013, 04:57:22 pm
From what's being reported on the BBC 24 channel, it seems to have been aimed at the crowd. 

Faith in humanity gone down again.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: RinellaWasHere on April 15, 2013, 05:00:32 pm
Update: She might be losing an arm.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Sleepy on April 15, 2013, 05:06:19 pm
God fucking damn it, who the fuck bombs a fucking marathon?

People like blowing up other people. So...anyone that woke up on the wrong side of the bed and sees a massed group of people

This is getting old. If you look at the number of mass murderers and compare that to the planet's population, the fraction is positively miniscule. Very few people consider doing such a thing, and even fewer carry out their plans.
Title: Re: Bombs at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on April 15, 2013, 05:06:40 pm
I hope we find the monsters who did this.   >:(
Title: Re: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: ThunderWulf on April 15, 2013, 05:07:36 pm
Update: She might be losing an arm.

*hugs*
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Her3tiK on April 15, 2013, 05:08:49 pm
So the parttimer's mom is okay, but no word on the husband. A couple other people I know may have been down there too.  I don't think I'll stop worrying until I hear from them.

This may sound selfish, but I'm kind of glad my mom isn't running it this year.
Just heard on the Bloomberg stream (via AP) that Boston is shutting down all cell service to prevent remote detonations, be it intentional or otherwise.

This number has been provided for anyone looking for loved ones they haven't heard from.
617-635-4500
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Joey on April 15, 2013, 05:09:18 pm
God fucking damn it, who the fuck bombs a fucking marathon?

A sprinter?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: erictheblue on April 15, 2013, 05:10:30 pm
Update: She might be losing an arm.

Oh gods, that's awful. My thoughts go out to your friend.


This is from a friend of mine who grew up in Ireland...

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Bombs: the ultimate weapon of the coward. Swift justice on whoever is responsible for this.

Always were, always will be. The Troubles, the Omagh bombing, Canary Wharf, Oklahoma City, Unabomber, the Warrington bombs, Dublin and Monaghan bombing, proxy bombing - all of them. Fucking cowards who do it.

This is what happens when fuckheads make bombs. It's that simple. I grew up around this shit and hated it then and hated it now. A few utter degenerates murdering innocents - that's all.

I don't wanna hear how evil the US/Ireland/Iraqis are. That's bullshit. There is *no* possible justification or provocation for murdering innocent citizens. (This was in answer to someone saying this is what happens when a government does things that piss people off.)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: RinellaWasHere on April 15, 2013, 05:10:43 pm
God fucking damn it, who the fuck bombs a fucking marathon?

A sprinter?

Not the fucking time.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Sleepy on April 15, 2013, 05:12:04 pm
God fucking damn it, who the fuck bombs a fucking marathon?

A sprinter?

Seriously, not cool. People have died, and others are still looking for loved ones.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Joey on April 15, 2013, 05:13:26 pm
Lighten the fuck up.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Sleepy on April 15, 2013, 05:14:07 pm
How about you fuck off, asshole? People are losing loved ones.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: RinellaWasHere on April 15, 2013, 05:14:27 pm
Lighten the fuck up.

My best fucking friend is having her fucking arm amputated in the motherfucking hospital. I will not lighten the fuck up.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Her3tiK on April 15, 2013, 05:16:06 pm
Footage of one of the explosions has been discovered. Anyone curious can view it here (http://www.bloomberg.com/video/boston-marathon-explosion-captured-on-video-ahWSSGq4RHGowbqVucWOJA.html). Viewer discretion advised.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Joey on April 15, 2013, 05:17:30 pm
You asked a question, I provided a possible answer.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Bezron on April 15, 2013, 05:17:57 pm
Lighten the fuck up.

My best fucking friend is having her fucking arm amputated in the motherfucking hospital. I will not lighten the fuck up.

Hugs, Rinella

Joey - shut the fuck up until you can learn that there is a right time for everything.  Now is not the time to tell people to lighten up about people losing limbs due to a bomb at a fucking marathon.  Ass.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Sleepy on April 15, 2013, 05:18:51 pm
It was a rhetorical question. He's upset about his best friend, and you were an asshole about it. Way to go, dipshit.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Her3tiK on April 15, 2013, 05:19:40 pm
Ignore the troll. There are more important things going on right now.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Joey on April 15, 2013, 05:21:13 pm
Lighten the fuck up.

My best fucking friend is having her fucking arm amputated in the motherfucking hospital. I will not lighten the fuck up.

Hugs, Rinella

Joey - shut the fuck up until you can learn that there is a right time for everything.  Now is not the time to tell people to lighten up about people losing limbs due to a bomb at a fucking marathon.  Ass.

Fine

*hugs for everyone*
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Bezron on April 15, 2013, 05:23:53 pm
Lighten the fuck up.

My best fucking friend is having her fucking arm amputated in the motherfucking hospital. I will not lighten the fuck up.

Hugs, Rinella

Joey - shut the fuck up until you can learn that there is a right time for everything.  Now is not the time to tell people to lighten up about people losing limbs due to a bomb at a fucking marathon.  Ass.

Fine

*hugs for everyone*

Just to clarify, for your sake...there is never a right time for what you posted.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Joey on April 15, 2013, 05:24:58 pm
Just to clarify, for your sake...there is never a right time for what you posted.
I disagree, but carry on.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 15, 2013, 05:25:36 pm
Conspiracy theories should be rolling out about now.

Of course the top conspiracy theory will likely be that it's some kind of false flag to take away guns. Because, you know, bombs and guns are totally the same thing, and it's not like our Australian members could make a bomb with stuff in their house right now.

Then I'm sure there will be a conspiracy that this is the return of that ex-cop, who really faked his death and is getting revenge on... random people in Boston?

Then there are the dubious accusations that will be thrown at right wing militias, muslims, the Occupy movement, left wing protesters, right wing protesters, people who oppose things the government is doing, etc.

Oh and let's not forget to throw some blame at North Korean secret agents while we're at it.

Did I miss anything?

Just to clarify, for your sake...there is never a right time for what you posted.
I disagree, but carry on.

22.3 years, and maybe then.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: ironbite on April 15, 2013, 05:30:30 pm
Alex Jones is already screaming false flag

ironbite-what a fucknugget
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Barbarella on April 15, 2013, 05:32:23 pm
Okay, I'll write again. I posted while folks were posting and it could get through.

I refuse to get mad again. Not a word of outrage shall escape my keyboard. I'm sick of complaining & ranting. No, I will be happy & hopeful for humanity. You know why?

Reactionaries do these things. Why are they called "reactionaries"? Because they see the vast positive social change, the Liberalization & ascension of society...and they don't like it.

They know the old ways of bigotry & backwards thinking are dying.

There seems to be a MASSIVE amount of reactionaries these days. The past couple of decades have seen religious zealots, misogynists & other weirdos really coming out of the woodwork, even entering political office. It's like medicating a big zit. It gets worse at first but then it recedes and heals.

These reactionaries are zit-filth on the face of Mother Earth. The activists for positive change are the zit cream. The pimple's now exploding & it will die.

Not long from now, thing will calm down & be more peaceful.

I am by no means making light of this bombing. I hope and pray that that there be no more casualties. I wish your injured loved ones my best wishes. I'm sorry about parttimer's mom & RinellaWasHere's friend & her arm.

@Scotgit
You are wrong. Never lose faith in humanity because the majority is decent.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on April 15, 2013, 05:33:22 pm
My thoughts go out to anyone who lost someone.

Bloody awful.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Barbarella on April 15, 2013, 05:36:24 pm
This tune cheers me up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaGUr6wzyT8

BOB MARLEY - THREE LITTLE BIRDS

Dont worry about a thing,
cause every little thing gonna be all right.
Singin: dont worry about a thing,
cause every little thing gonna be all right!

Rise up this mornin,
Smiled with the risin sun,
Three little birds
Pitch by my doorstep
Singin sweet songs
Of melodies pure and true,
Sayin, (this is my message to you-ou-ou:)

Singin: dont worry bout a thing,
cause every little thing gonna be all right.
Singin: dont worry (dont worry) bout a thing,
cause every little thing gonna be all right!

Rise up this mornin,
Smiled with the risin sun,
Three little birds
Pitch by my doorstep
Singin sweet songs
Of melodies pure and true,
Sayin, this is my message to you-ou-ou:

Singin: dont worry about a thing, worry about a thing, oh!
Every little thing gonna be all right. dont worry!
Singin: dont worry about a thing - I wont worry!
cause every little thing gonna be all right.

Singin: dont worry about a thing,
cause every little thing gonna be all right - I wont worry!
Singin: dont worry about a thing,
cause every little thing gonna be all right.
Singin: dont worry about a thing, oh no!
cause every little thing gonna be all right!
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 15, 2013, 05:37:58 pm
Oh god, I only just woke up from a nap and this happened? I go to school here in Mass. Oh jeez.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: SkyTrekTower on April 15, 2013, 05:39:37 pm
I just found out, this is terrible.  My thoughts and prays go out to the dead and injured, and their friends and families.

As for who did it,it could really be anyone, Islamists, Left Wing or Right Wing terrorism.

At least police have a person of interest.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Random Gal on April 15, 2013, 05:40:16 pm
Conspiracy theories should be rolling out about now.

Of course the top conspiracy theory will likely be that it's some kind of false flag to take away guns. Because, you know, bombs and guns are totally the same thing, and it's not like our Australian members could make a bomb with stuff in their house right now.

Then I'm sure there will be a conspiracy that this is the return of that ex-cop, who really faked his death and is getting revenge on... random people in Boston?

Then there are the dubious accusations that will be thrown at right wing militias, muslims, the Occupy movement, left wing protesters, right wing protesters, people who oppose things the government is doing, etc.

Oh and let's not forget to throw some blame at North Korean secret agents while we're at it.

Did I miss anything?

You forgot "It's God's judgment on Massachusetts for allowing gay marriage."
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Barbarella on April 15, 2013, 05:47:28 pm
I just found out, this is terrible.  My thoughts and prays go out to the dead and injured, and their friends and families.

As for who did it,it could really be anyone, Islamists, Left Wing or Right Wing terrorism.

At least police have a person of interest.

It could even be a goofus like the guy in Aurora or the Sandy Hook School shooter (I refuse to name them or recognize them. Kind of like Harry Potter characters concerning Voldemort).

My Dad, who's a FAUX Noize/Dittohead was like "IT'S A MUSLIM!" and started babbling about the Islamic religion. I told him that we don't know who's responsible, yet! It could be an IslamoZealot, it could be a ChristoZealot, NeoNazi, Militia whackjob, a lone weirdo like the Aurora shooter or someone like the Norway Shooter.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 15, 2013, 05:56:17 pm
Apparently Obama will be making a statement within the next hour.
Title: Re: Bombs at the Boston Marathon
Post by: KZN02 on April 15, 2013, 05:57:04 pm
Today is also Tax Day, if that's related to a motive.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: nickiknack on April 15, 2013, 05:59:25 pm
And this (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/two_explosions_at_boston_marathon_iMR0LCkcwASg0RQfVsH1yI) is why the NY Post is a fucking joke...
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Joey on April 15, 2013, 05:59:54 pm
You forgot "It's God's judgment on Massachusetts for allowing gay marriage."

Pat Robertson will get to that soon enough.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: RinellaWasHere on April 15, 2013, 06:01:21 pm
I can't bring myself to watch any news footage. Saw a few pictures, including one of a guy with his leg just gone, and nearly puked.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Barbarella on April 15, 2013, 06:05:33 pm
And this (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/two_explosions_at_boston_marathon_iMR0LCkcwASg0RQfVsH1yI) is why the NY Post is a fucking joke...

Gawd!
Title: Re: Bombs at the Boston Marathon
Post by: BrandonL337 on April 15, 2013, 06:07:20 pm
Today is also Tax Day, if that's related to a motive.

As well as Patriot's Day, which apparently has significance to the militia movement.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 15, 2013, 06:07:34 pm
Just an FYI, I merged the two Boston threads.

Currently trying to absorb what I'm reading here.  I am very unhappy right now, moreso because friends people here have been hurt and mutilated by this.  I'm not just angry on principle, it's personal now.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 15, 2013, 06:08:32 pm
I can't bring myself to watch any news footage. Saw a few pictures, including one of a guy with his leg just gone, and nearly puked.

I'm watching the BBC live feed and they keep replaying the footage of the blast. I've not seen anything that could be called graphic though.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 15, 2013, 06:15:23 pm
I keep hearing reports that the suspect being guarded is a Saudi national. Then again in the wake of the Oslo attacks people were also speculating about Islamic terrorists, so we'll see.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: BrandonL337 on April 15, 2013, 06:17:48 pm
I keep hearing reports that the suspect being guarded is a Saudi national. Then again in the wake of the Oslo attacks people were also speculating about Islamic terrorists, so we'll see.

those were debunked, NYPost is responsible for those reports
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: erictheblue on April 15, 2013, 06:18:14 pm
I keep hearing reports that the suspect being guarded is a Saudi national. Then again in the wake of the Oslo attacks people were also speculating about Islamic terrorists, so we'll see.

According to the Boston Police Commissioner, they do not have a suspect in custody. (Or they didn't 15 minutes ago.)

From the BBC feed...

Quote
(The police commissioner) adds that reports police have a suspect in custody are inaccurate.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Barbarella on April 15, 2013, 06:23:01 pm
Please don't think my two posts were making light of this tragedy. My heart goes out to everyone. I also know that many of you know some of the people hurt. I wish I could give all of you a BIG HUG. I'm so sorry.

As for my posts, they are meant to console & put stuff in perspective.

I don't want to rant like a maniac or wish bloody murder on anyone. I've inadvertently made an ass of myself on this forum a number of times. I want to give you all big hugs, cookies and love.

FOR ALL OF YOU:
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I also give these to every soul hurt by this tragedy. May those who died be at peace & may the living find peace. May they find the perp, bring justice & find a resolution.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Meshakhad on April 15, 2013, 06:25:07 pm
Speculation is that it was either Islamic fundamentalists or right-wing extremists.

*snip*

From someone who was born in Boston... thank you.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Barbarella on April 15, 2013, 06:26:43 pm
Speculation is that it was either Islamic fundamentalists or right-wing extremists.

*snip*

From someone who was born in Boston... thank you.

You're welcome. May there be peace & love in Ol' Beantown.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 15, 2013, 06:27:27 pm
Speculation is that it was either Islamic fundamentalists or right-wing extremists.
Though Islamic nutjobs tend to be on the right side of the political spectrum anyway.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 15, 2013, 06:28:43 pm
I keep hearing reports that the suspect being guarded is a Saudi national. Then again in the wake of the Oslo attacks people were also speculating about Islamic terrorists, so we'll see.

According to the Boston Police Commissioner, they do not have a suspect in custody. (Or they didn't 15 minutes ago.)

From the BBC feed...

Quote
(The police commissioner) adds that reports police have a suspect in custody are inaccurate.
Oh good. At the New York Post we can just make shit up. What? It's not like anyone got hurt... [/sarc]
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Barbarella on April 15, 2013, 06:32:46 pm
I keep hearing reports that the suspect being guarded is a Saudi national. Then again in the wake of the Oslo attacks people were also speculating about Islamic terrorists, so we'll see.

According to the Boston Police Commissioner, they do not have a suspect in custody. (Or they didn't 15 minutes ago.)

From the BBC feed...

Quote
(The police commissioner) adds that reports police have a suspect in custody are inaccurate.
Oh good. At the New York Post we can just make shit up. What? It's not like anyone got hurt... [/sarc]


BEHOLD! THE NEW YORK POST!:
(http://i45.tinypic.com/seooki.jpg)
Thank you! Thank you!
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Joey on April 15, 2013, 06:35:32 pm
I'm more inclined to believe Islamic for now, since the victims were civilians. Right-wingers historically have gone for government employees / targets, a la McVeigh or the Unabomber.

Of course, pure speculation until more info is released.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: BrandonL337 on April 15, 2013, 06:37:13 pm
Oh jesus fuck, just heard that one of the dead is an eight year old boy.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Radiation on April 15, 2013, 06:38:21 pm
I'm more inclined to believe Islamic for now, since the victims were civilians. Right-wingers historically have gone for government employees / targets, a la McVeigh or the Unabomber.

Of course, pure speculation until more info is released.

Huh? So only Muslim bomb random citizens? Sorry, but I'm not going to jump to that conclusion until more reports come back in. As far as I know, it could be some American born loony.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: RinellaWasHere on April 15, 2013, 06:38:31 pm
Her operation to take the arm starts in half an hour. I'm praying for her.

Oh jesus fuck, just heard that one of the dead is an eight year old boy.

Oh my God.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Joey on April 15, 2013, 06:42:52 pm
Huh? So only Muslim bomb random citizens? Sorry, but I'm not going to jump to that conclusion until more reports come back in. As far as I know, it could be some American born loony.
Of course it could be. But historically the groups have had different victim profiles. I'm not jumping to a conclusion; just speculating.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: ThunderWulf on April 15, 2013, 06:44:15 pm
So my mother wasn't running but apparently was in Boston. She's okay though.  One of my sister's friends was hugging a friend of hers who had just crossed the finish line when the bombs went off.  I believe they're both mostly okay.

I've lived in the Greater Boston area since I was 7 (I'm 25 now), and have multiple runners in my family and friends.  I basically grew up with the Boston Marathon as a big part of my childhood and have waited at that finish line for people a few times myself.  I've heard from some more of the people I know, but STILL have not heard from more than I'd like.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 15, 2013, 06:45:41 pm
I'm speculating that it's someone from the local area who just likes to see people get hurt and panic.

I can't think of any religious, political, or philosophical reason for this bombing.  Doesn't mean there aren't any, but the attack was indiscriminate...
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: erictheblue on April 15, 2013, 06:49:56 pm
I can't think of any religious, political, or philosophical reason for this bombing.  Doesn't mean there aren't any, but the attack was indiscriminate...

Just because you can't think of a reason doesn't mean whoever did this doesn't have one. The reason may not even be related to Boston; this may just be the best place they can think of.

To be honest, I'm still leaning towards an anti-government idiot who is taking advantage of the fact that a huge event is taking place on Tax Day. If this was the LA Marathon, the bombing would have been in LA, so long as it took place on April 15.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: SkyTrekTower on April 15, 2013, 06:51:15 pm
I'm more inclined to believe Islamic for now, since the victims were civilians. Right-wingers historically have gone for government employees / targets, a la McVeigh or the Unabomber.

Of course, pure speculation until more info is released.

The Unabomber didn't target government employees.

Also:
Eric Rudolph
Spokane Bombing Attempt
Holocaust Museum Shooting
Knoxville Unitarian Church Shooting
...and on, and on
Right wing extremists have no problem targeting civillians.

While I could see an Al Qaeda sympathizer being behind it, I could also see it easily being the work of right wing extremists.  It is an international event, so you have the racist/xenophobic reasoning, its tax day, and Boston.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Barbarella on April 15, 2013, 06:52:44 pm
So my mother wasn't running but apparently was in Boston. She's okay though.  One of my sister's friends was hugging a friend of hers who had just crossed the finish line when the bombs went off.  I believe they're both mostly okay.

I've lived in the Greater Boston area since I was 7 (I'm 25 now), and have multiple runners in my family and friends.  I basically grew up with the Boston Marathon as a big part of my childhood and have waited at that finish line for people a few times myself.  I've heard from some more of the people I know, but STILL have not heard from more than I'd like.

I'm glad your Mom & friends are okay. You need a huggy.

*HUGGY*

 :D There! :D
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 15, 2013, 06:57:27 pm
I can't think of any religious, political, or philosophical reason for this bombing.  Doesn't mean there aren't any, but the attack was indiscriminate...

Just because you can't think of a reason doesn't mean whoever did this doesn't have one. The reason may not even be related to Boston; this may just be the best place they can think of.

To be honest, I'm still leaning towards an anti-government idiot who is taking advantage of the fact that a huge event is taking place on Tax Day. If this was the LA Marathon, the bombing would have been in LA, so long as it took place on April 15.

They might be doing it because it's "Patriots Day" in Massachusetts, and they think they are being a patriot by doing this somehow.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: mellenORL on April 15, 2013, 06:57:40 pm
I can't think of any religious, political, or philosophical reason for this bombing.  Doesn't mean there aren't any, but the attack was indiscriminate...

Just because you can't think of a reason doesn't mean whoever did this doesn't have one. The reason may not even be related to Boston; this may just be the best place they can think of.

To be honest, I'm still leaning towards an anti-government idiot who is taking advantage of the fact that a huge event is taking place on Tax Day. If this was the LA Marathon, the bombing would have been in LA, so long as it took place on April 15.
Tax Day >  in Boston it is Patriot Day > The Boston Tea Party....yeah....so far I'm thinking along the same lines; a possible teahadi/tealiban psycho.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 15, 2013, 07:00:21 pm
I have no idea what to say. Obviously, that'c completely fucked and I hope whoever did it is thrown in prison forever and never hurts anyone again. I also hope the hundred or so wounded people recover with no lasting effects. I doubt either of these will happen.

I also hope that this is not used to justify some new atrocity against the rights of the American people.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Joey on April 15, 2013, 07:01:55 pm
I'm more inclined to believe Islamic for now, since the victims were civilians. Right-wingers historically have gone for government employees / targets, a la McVeigh or the Unabomber.

Of course, pure speculation until more info is released.

The Unabomber didn't target government employees.

Also:
Eric Rudolph
Spokane Bombing Attempt
Holocaust Museum Shooting
Knoxville Unitarian Church Shooting
...and on, and on
Right wing extremists have no problem targeting civillians.

While I could see an Al Qaeda sympathizer being behind it, I could also see it easily being the work of right wing extremists.  It is an international event, so you have the racist/xenophobic reasoning, its tax day, and Boston.
True, but those are still ideological targets. A marathon isn't an ideological target unless you're a culinary artist. But I suppose the WTC was technically an ideological target too.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 15, 2013, 07:02:49 pm
 Ignores the troll
Fred sadly one of the wounded is Rinella's friend who is going to have her arm cut off
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Joey on April 15, 2013, 07:02:59 pm
I also hope that this is not used to justify some new atrocity against the rights of the American people.
It will be. Politicians are opportunists.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Joey on April 15, 2013, 07:04:27 pm
Ignores the troll
Fred sadly one of the wounded is Rinella's friend who is going to have her arm cut off
Are you still accusing me of trolling? Get your fucking panties out of a bunch. I'm participating in meaningful discussion.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Zygarde on April 15, 2013, 07:04:54 pm
Such a horrible event.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 15, 2013, 07:05:57 pm
Alex Jones is already screaming false flag

ironbite-what a fucknugget

Yeah, the real question is how to blame Obama for this.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 15, 2013, 07:06:02 pm
I'm more inclined to believe Islamic for now, since the victims were civilians. Right-wingers historically have gone for government employees / targets, a la McVeigh or the Unabomber.

Of course, pure speculation until more info is released.

The Unabomber didn't target government employees.

Also:
Eric Rudolph
Spokane Bombing Attempt
Holocaust Museum Shooting
Knoxville Unitarian Church Shooting
...and on, and on
Right wing extremists have no problem targeting civillians.

While I could see an Al Qaeda sympathizer being behind it, I could also see it easily being the work of right wing extremists.  It is an international event, so you have the racist/xenophobic reasoning, its tax day, and Boston.
True, but those are still ideological targets. A marathon isn't an ideological target unless you're a culinary artist. But I suppose the WTC was technically an ideological target too.
But Eric Rudolph was responsible for the Centennial Olympic Park bombing. Also a sporting event.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: ironbite on April 15, 2013, 07:08:05 pm
I'm more inclined to believe Islamic for now, since the victims were civilians. Right-wingers historically have gone for government employees / targets, a la McVeigh or the Unabomber.

Of course, pure speculation until more info is released.

real IRA would like a word with you

ironbite-after they get done finding money for an internet connection
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Scotsgit on April 15, 2013, 07:09:31 pm
I'm more inclined to believe Islamic for now, since the victims were civilians. Right-wingers historically have gone for government employees / targets, a la McVeigh or the Unabomber.

Of course, pure speculation until more info is released.

real IRA would like a word with you

ironbite-after they get done finding money for an internet connection

Ibby, the Provos/Real IRA are left-wing.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: ThunderWulf on April 15, 2013, 07:10:03 pm
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand I just lost respect for someone on my Facebook friend's list.

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/547925_362162377222961_2142100569_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: nickiknack on April 15, 2013, 07:13:17 pm
I keep hearing reports that the suspect being guarded is a Saudi national. Then again in the wake of the Oslo attacks people were also speculating about Islamic terrorists, so we'll see.

According to the Boston Police Commissioner, they do not have a suspect in custody. (Or they didn't 15 minutes ago.)

From the BBC feed...

Quote
(The police commissioner) adds that reports police have a suspect in custody are inaccurate.
Oh good. At the New York Post we can just make shit up. What? It's not like anyone got hurt... [/sarc]


BEHOLD! THE NEW YORK POST!:
(http://i45.tinypic.com/seooki.jpg)
Thank you! Thank you!

Please don't insult feminine hygiene products.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 15, 2013, 07:13:37 pm
I can't think of any religious, political, or philosophical reason for this bombing.  Doesn't mean there aren't any, but the attack was indiscriminate...

Just because you can't think of a reason doesn't mean whoever did this doesn't have one.

...I know that.  I said that in the post you quoted.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: TheUnknown on April 15, 2013, 07:14:35 pm
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand I just lost respect for someone on my Facebook friend's list.

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/547925_362162377222961_2142100569_n.jpg)

I take it whoever made this is the same person who made that "North Korea the media doesn't want you to see" macro due to the 'awaken the mind' tag on it.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 15, 2013, 07:19:48 pm
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand I just lost respect for someone on my Facebook friend's list.

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/547925_362162377222961_2142100569_n.jpg)

I take it whoever made this is the same person who made that "North Korea the media doesn't want you to see" macro due to the 'awaken the mind' tag on it.

Before you said that and I noticed it I thought it might have been someone doing a Dale Gribble impersonation.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: ThunderWulf on April 15, 2013, 07:30:11 pm
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand I just lost respect for someone on my Facebook friend's list.

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/547925_362162377222961_2142100569_n.jpg)

I take it whoever made this is the same person who made that "North Korea the media doesn't want you to see" macro due to the 'awaken the mind' tag on it.

Well they shared it from that page.  Awaken The Mind is apparently a conspiracy theorist Facebook page.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 15, 2013, 07:34:50 pm
Ignores the troll
Fred sadly one of the wounded is Rinella's friend who is going to have her arm cut off

Fuck. Fucking utterly fuck.

I hope she recovers quick.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: the_ignored on April 15, 2013, 07:49:02 pm
Ignores the troll
Fred sadly one of the wounded is Rinella's friend who is going to have her arm cut off

Fuck. Fucking utterly fuck.

I hope she recovers quick.
So do I...I've been keeping up with this on the CBC news...this is fucked up!
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: nickiknack on April 15, 2013, 07:57:11 pm
Here's some info (http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/04/15/several-hurt-in-explosions-at-boston-marathon-finish-line/) from a local Boston area CBS.
Quote
CBS News senior correspondent John Miller said there is “an individual in custody,” a Saudi national who was near the scene of the blast.

Miller said a civilian claims the person was acting suspiciously and chased him down and tackled him after the explosions.

The man is said to be cooperating with investigators and denies any involvement.

and here comes some stupid in the comment section
(http://imageshack.us/a/img856/8181/tgbc.jpg)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: nickiknack on April 15, 2013, 07:57:18 pm
Here's some info (http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/04/15/several-hurt-in-explosions-at-boston-marathon-finish-line/) from a local Boston area CBS.
Quote
CBS News senior correspondent John Miller said there is “an individual in custody,” a Saudi national who was near the scene of the blast.

Miller said a civilian claims the person was acting suspiciously and chased him down and tackled him after the explosions.

The man is said to be cooperating with investigators and denies any involvement.

and here comes some stupid in the comment section
(http://imageshack.us/a/img856/8181/tgbc.jpg)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: RinellaWasHere on April 15, 2013, 08:02:47 pm
Heard the whole Saudi national thing turned out to be nothing.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: TheUnknown on April 15, 2013, 08:12:02 pm
Here's some info (http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/04/15/several-hurt-in-explosions-at-boston-marathon-finish-line/) from a local Boston area CBS.
Quote
CBS News senior correspondent John Miller said there is “an individual in custody,” a Saudi national who was near the scene of the blast.

Miller said a civilian claims the person was acting suspiciously and chased him down and tackled him after the explosions.

The man is said to be cooperating with investigators and denies any involvement.

and here comes some stupid in the comment section
(http://imageshack.us/a/img856/8181/tgbc.jpg)

I thought the 'Saudi national in custody' was debunked as a rumor spread by the New York Post, and that when it was posted, Boston officials said is was a rumor and that they had nobody in custody.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: nickiknack on April 15, 2013, 08:14:44 pm
To me it seems like they may just be questioning the guy, because people in this country seem to had a hard on for the whole "Arabs are EVILZ" trope.  I won't call that an "arrest", like what the NY Post was reporting.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Barbarella on April 15, 2013, 08:15:49 pm
Here's some info (http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/04/15/several-hurt-in-explosions-at-boston-marathon-finish-line/) from a local Boston area CBS.
Quote
CBS News senior correspondent John Miller said there is “an individual in custody,” a Saudi national who was near the scene of the blast.

Miller said a civilian claims the person was acting suspiciously and chased him down and tackled him after the explosions.

The man is said to be cooperating with investigators and denies any involvement.

and here comes some stupid in the comment section
(http://imageshack.us/a/img856/8181/tgbc.jpg)

I thought the 'Saudi national in custody' was debunked as a rumor spread by the New York Post, and that when it was posted, Boston officials said is was a rumor and that they had nobody in custody.

Miller could be parroting what the Post wrote, rumors travel fast.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: RinellaWasHere on April 15, 2013, 08:35:44 pm
Her operation is starting now. Thanks to everyone for their sympathy.

By the way, this is the same girl I posted about here (http://forums.fstdt.net/index.php?topic=2901.0), with the abusive dad.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 15, 2013, 08:39:04 pm
Here's a nasty thought I just had: who's paying for the surgery? Is that going to be a problem?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: RinellaWasHere on April 15, 2013, 08:40:46 pm
Here's a nasty thought I just had: who's paying for the surgery? Is that going to be a problem?

Her parents- I think both of them. She hasn't told her mom about the issue yet, as far as I know. She did begin the American citizenship process, however.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: nickiknack on April 15, 2013, 08:43:41 pm
I hope everything goes ok
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: FirsthandTuna on April 15, 2013, 08:50:44 pm
This is horrible. I don't really know what to say.

I hope your friend's surgery goes well, Rinella.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: ThunderWulf on April 15, 2013, 08:53:50 pm
Being so close to me as it was, sending as many positive vibes to your friend Rinella.  Hope the surgery goes perfectly.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: QueenofHearts on April 15, 2013, 08:57:11 pm
Me too, Rinella. Wishing you and her all the best.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 15, 2013, 08:57:48 pm
hug
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: erictheblue on April 15, 2013, 09:00:04 pm
Here's some info (http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/04/15/several-hurt-in-explosions-at-boston-marathon-finish-line/) from a local Boston area CBS.
Quote
CBS News senior correspondent John Miller said there is “an individual in custody,” a Saudi national who was near the scene of the blast.

Miller said a civilian claims the person was acting suspiciously and chased him down and tackled him after the explosions.

The man is said to be cooperating with investigators and denies any involvement.

As of 3 minutes ago, Boston PD said they did not have a suspect.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: SkyTrekTower on April 15, 2013, 09:04:53 pm
The hell was with that conspiracy theorist screaming "false flag" in the press conference?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Damen on April 15, 2013, 09:07:09 pm
I am so sorry, Rinella. I wish I knew what to say besides just try and be there for her when you can and extend our sympathies. I wish I could do more, but make sure to give her a hug from all of us.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Barbarella on April 15, 2013, 09:13:26 pm
Her operation is starting now. Thanks to everyone for their sympathy.

By the way, this is the same girl I posted about here (http://forums.fstdt.net/index.php?topic=2901.0), with the abusive dad.

I hope she'll be okay. My heart goes out to her. First, then abusive dad, now this. I hope she both recovers fully & becomes a U.S. citizen.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 15, 2013, 09:15:32 pm
Nothining new on BBC
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 15, 2013, 09:21:52 pm
Rinella, she and all of the other victims of this bombing are in my prayers.

I want to do more, though, but unfortunately funds are tight and I have no way of getting over there >_<
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 15, 2013, 09:28:15 pm
To all affected, my thoughts and hopes for the best go with ya.  Not a prayin man, but I do hope that, if nothing else, there will be justice for this.  Find the bastard, try him, and throw him in a cell for the rest of his life with no human contact.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: rtvc2012 on April 15, 2013, 09:30:41 pm
I'm hearing that the death toll is anywhere from 3 to 13.  Does anyone know for sure?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: syaoranvee on April 15, 2013, 09:32:57 pm
I find it odd that I was at work all day handling customers and hadn't heard anything about this until now.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: chitoryu12 on April 15, 2013, 09:33:23 pm
I'm removing people from my Facebook over this. I'm tired of all the partisan bullshit infecting society. People DIED, people have been MAIMED. If you're going to use this as a springboard for political attacks, get the fuck out.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: erictheblue on April 15, 2013, 09:34:24 pm
I'm hearing that the death toll is anywhere from 3 to 13.  Does anyone know for sure?

From the latest press conference, 3 dead.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 15, 2013, 09:34:53 pm
Assholes will find ways to politicize fucking anything, I swear...
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: ThunderWulf on April 15, 2013, 09:35:14 pm
I'm removing people from my Facebook over this. I'm tired of all the partisan bullshit infecting society. People DIED, people have been MAIMED. If you're going to use this as a springboard for political attacks, get the fuck out.

I already deleted one person who kept posting multiple stuff about it being a government false flag.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Auri-El on April 15, 2013, 09:43:56 pm
Yeah, first thing I saw was a friend on Twitter going all "proof gun control doesn't stop violence." Whether I agree or not is irrelevant. I think two hours after the bombing is too soon for that shit. Especially when the news was still saying then that it might've been an accident. Politics really sucks sometimes. Why not take a few fucking hours to just be human before bringing spin into it.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 15, 2013, 10:04:44 pm
1) Rinella- I'm sorry to hear about your friend. I can't imagine how it has to feel to have your life... turn this way. After the abuse and everything...
2) Can we stop with leaping to fucking conclusions about who and why?
3) There is still no sign of a suspect. All that is confirmed so far is number of dead, injured, and bombs.
4) Now is really not the time to be disrespectful with "jokes" and shit. Especially when, in this very thread, someone has admitted to a friend of theirs being injured. I'm not even going to say 'would you want someone to say these things to you if you were in Rinella's shoes'? It's common decency.
5) I hope soon there will be a call for help money wise so I can try to help from where I'm at. I hope we get our forensic analysts working quickly and properly.

This is just horrid...
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: SpaceProg on April 15, 2013, 10:12:04 pm
I don't really have many words that haven't already been said better by the other caring folks on this thread.  I just hope for the best outcome possible for those injured, and for those who lost their loved ones, I'm very sorry.  My sincere condolences.  I wish everyone peace as soon as possible after this.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Atheism Exposed on April 15, 2013, 10:13:56 pm
Ibby, the Provos/Real IRA are left-wing.

And indirectly funded by the US government. 

As sickening as this act of violence is, there would be a tinge of irony if the perpetrators of this horror turn out to have been trained by members of the IRA.  Especially in Boston of all places.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 15, 2013, 10:16:38 pm
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRO1R-VMh4WqnyPElPpjdYeFu2qqVo-w2xA_gjfkS1JcCFiamRYJQ) 
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Scotsgit on April 15, 2013, 10:17:39 pm
Ibby, the Provos/Real IRA are left-wing.

And indirectly funded by the US government. 

As sickening as this act of violence is, there would be a tinge of irony if the perpetrators of this horror turn out to have been trained by members of the IRA.  Especially in Boston of all places.

Shut.  The.  Fuck.  Up.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Scotsgit on April 15, 2013, 10:18:15 pm
Her operation is starting now. Thanks to everyone for their sympathy.

By the way, this is the same girl I posted about here (http://forums.fstdt.net/index.php?topic=2901.0), with the abusive dad.

Sending you both big hugs.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: nickiknack on April 15, 2013, 10:21:49 pm
Oh joy, a chew toy...
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Morgenleoht on April 15, 2013, 10:22:10 pm
*huggles*
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 15, 2013, 10:30:11 pm
Ibby, the Provos/Real IRA are left-wing.

And indirectly funded by the US government. 

As sickening as this act of violence is, there would be a tinge of irony if the perpetrators of this horror turn out to have been trained by members of the IRA.  Especially in Boston of all places.
Not now you insensitive cockhead.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Atheism Exposed on April 15, 2013, 10:32:59 pm
Ibby, the Provos/Real IRA are left-wing.

And indirectly funded by the US government. 

As sickening as this act of violence is, there would be a tinge of irony if the perpetrators of this horror turn out to have been trained by members of the IRA.  Especially in Boston of all places.
Not now you insensitive cockhead.

You mean my post was the first that contained political commentary rather than empty platitudes?  Any sane person would have thought 9 pages long enough :)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Itachirumon on April 15, 2013, 10:34:10 pm
AE - go back to 4chan, I was just over there /x/ is blowing up over this. You have fun with the stupid-fuck trolls there.

Edit:
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You mean my post was the first that contained political commentary rather than empty platitudes?  Any sane person would have thought 9 pages long enough :)

You're a jackass. That is all.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 15, 2013, 10:35:11 pm
Ibby, the Provos/Real IRA are left-wing.

And indirectly funded by the US government. 

As sickening as this act of violence is, there would be a tinge of irony if the perpetrators of this horror turn out to have been trained by members of the IRA.  Especially in Boston of all places.
Not now you insensitive cockhead.

You mean my post was the first that contained political commentary rather than empty platitudes?  Any sane person would have thought 9 pages long enough :)
That you're here and pissing all over this tragedy with your nonsense officially means I don't have to give a fuck about what you have to say.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: ironbite on April 15, 2013, 10:35:51 pm
you were told to kindly fuck off.  now do so.

left-wing right-wing I don't give a shit.  you use violence to spread your message, its not a message worth hearing

ironbite-enjoy your miserable existence troll#Invalid YouTube Link#
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Radiation on April 15, 2013, 10:36:28 pm
The hell was with that conspiracy theorist screaming "false flag" in the press conference?

What press conference was this and is it on Youtube? (I don't have a TV)

Rinella, I will keep your friend in my thoughts tonight and hope that she makes a good recovery and that everything turns out ok. I can't imagine what you or your friend are going through right now as it is probably very hard to deal with everything else on her plate and then end up losing a limb. I actually feel sad about this and I wish I could be there to comfort you.

Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Itachirumon on April 15, 2013, 10:40:23 pm
The hell was with that conspiracy theorist screaming "false flag" in the press conference?

What press conference was this and is it on Youtube? (I don't have a TV)

Rinella, I will keep your friend in my thoughts tonight and hope that she makes a good recovery and that everything turns out ok. I can't imagine what you or your friend are going through right now as it is probably very hard to deal with everything else on her plate and then end up losing a limb. I actually feel sad about this and I wish I could be there to comfort you.



It's what /x/ was screaming about, something about the cops saying "GET DOWN" before the explosions went off. So the guy was trolling, I guess. I only went to see how the psychos over there would try to spin it. Apparently it's mentioned on ThinkProgress and a few other places but I haven't had time to look yet. I know he was being really really disruptive.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Scotsgit on April 15, 2013, 10:40:33 pm
The hell was with that conspiracy theorist screaming "false flag" in the press conference?

What press conference was this and is it on Youtube? (I don't have a TV)

Rinella, I will keep your friend in my thoughts tonight and hope that she makes a good recovery and that everything turns out ok. I can't imagine what you or your friend are going through right now as it is probably very hard to deal with everything else on her plate and then end up losing a limb. I actually feel sad about this and I wish I could be there to comfort you.

It came up on the BBC live streaming from the press conference in Boston, the same person then asked the surgeon how the response training he had received in Israel had helped.  The Doctor's face had "You are an idiot" written all over it as he pointed out that he has never received any training in Israel.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Scotsgit on April 15, 2013, 10:42:35 pm
Ibby, the Provos/Real IRA are left-wing.

And indirectly funded by the US government. 

As sickening as this act of violence is, there would be a tinge of irony if the perpetrators of this horror turn out to have been trained by members of the IRA.  Especially in Boston of all places.
Not now you insensitive cockhead.

You mean my post was the first that contained political commentary rather than empty platitudes?  Any sane person would have thought 9 pages long enough :)

These weren't empty platitudes you cunt, these are people who are rightly shocked and in case of Rinella, very upset.

And you are far from sane, you dumbcock.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Itachirumon on April 15, 2013, 10:47:25 pm
The hell was with that conspiracy theorist screaming "false flag" in the press conference?

What press conference was this and is it on Youtube? (I don't have a TV)

Rinella, I will keep your friend in my thoughts tonight and hope that she makes a good recovery and that everything turns out ok. I can't imagine what you or your friend are going through right now as it is probably very hard to deal with everything else on her plate and then end up losing a limb. I actually feel sad about this and I wish I could be there to comfort you.

It came up on the BBC live streaming from the press conference in Boston, the same person then asked the surgeon how the response training he had received in Israel had helped.  The Doctor's face had "You are an idiot" written all over it as he pointed out that he has never received any training in Israel.

What in the fucking hell would ever possess someone to do something that stupid and braindead?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Scotsgit on April 15, 2013, 10:48:53 pm
The hell was with that conspiracy theorist screaming "false flag" in the press conference?

What press conference was this and is it on Youtube? (I don't have a TV)

Rinella, I will keep your friend in my thoughts tonight and hope that she makes a good recovery and that everything turns out ok. I can't imagine what you or your friend are going through right now as it is probably very hard to deal with everything else on her plate and then end up losing a limb. I actually feel sad about this and I wish I could be there to comfort you.

It came up on the BBC live streaming from the press conference in Boston, the same person then asked the surgeon how the response training he had received in Israel had helped.  The Doctor's face had "You are an idiot" written all over it as he pointed out that he has never received any training in Israel.

What in the fucking hell would ever possess someone to do something that stupid and braindead?

Conspiracy truther types are claiming it's a "False Flag" operation by either the FBI or CIA.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 15, 2013, 10:50:05 pm
The hell was with that conspiracy theorist screaming "false flag" in the press conference?

What press conference was this and is it on Youtube? (I don't have a TV)

Rinella, I will keep your friend in my thoughts tonight and hope that she makes a good recovery and that everything turns out ok. I can't imagine what you or your friend are going through right now as it is probably very hard to deal with everything else on her plate and then end up losing a limb. I actually feel sad about this and I wish I could be there to comfort you.

It came up on the BBC live streaming from the press conference in Boston, the same person then asked the surgeon how the response training he had received in Israel had helped.  The Doctor's face had "You are an idiot" written all over it as he pointed out that he has never received any training in Israel.

What in the fucking hell would ever possess someone to do something that stupid and braindead?

Conspiracy truther types are claiming it's a "False Flag" operation by either the FBI or CIA.
Aren't they always?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: ThunderWulf on April 15, 2013, 10:50:59 pm
Ibby, the Provos/Real IRA are left-wing.

And indirectly funded by the US government. 

As sickening as this act of violence is, there would be a tinge of irony if the perpetrators of this horror turn out to have been trained by members of the IRA.  Especially in Boston of all places.

This happened in my home state.  This happened where I fucking LIVE.  Fuck off. NOW.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Sleepy on April 15, 2013, 10:51:58 pm
He's a stupid troll. Can we please remove him, mods?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: syaoranvee on April 15, 2013, 10:53:57 pm
AE - go back to 4chan, I was just over there /x/ is blowing up over this. You have fun with the stupid-fuck trolls there.

Oddly enough /x/ was the first place I heard about this from.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 15, 2013, 10:58:24 pm
He's a stupid troll. Can we please remove him, mods?
I agree, I think behaving in this manner on this particular thread while we clearly have people hurting is enough cause to permaban his ass.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Radiation on April 15, 2013, 11:04:16 pm
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Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: ThunderWulf on April 15, 2013, 11:11:58 pm
Thank you.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 15, 2013, 11:15:43 pm
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Quite right. Well done.

I hear there are, like, shitloads of runners just wandering around looking for somewhere to sleep because they've missed their flights.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Sleepy on April 15, 2013, 11:20:15 pm
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Quite right. Well done.

I hear there are, like, shitloads of runners just wandering around looking for somewhere to sleep because they've missed their flights.

Yikes. If that's the case, I would think they could possibly go to authorities and ask for help, given the situation. Or hope for a kind soul in the area to extend an offer. I'm not sure if any hotels would offer to help them, but they'd certainly receive some positive publicity for it.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Scotsgit on April 15, 2013, 11:21:24 pm
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Quite right. Well done.

I hear there are, like, shitloads of runners just wandering around looking for somewhere to sleep because they've missed their flights.

The BBC has reported that many of the people of Boston have offered rooms in their houses to runners.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 15, 2013, 11:23:07 pm
Maybe there should be some sort of law that hotels and such have to provide places for people on credit (or free?) in these kinds of situations. I'm not sure, I haven't full thought it through.

Clearly, if a hotel DOES do this, they ought to put up a massive sign bragging about it forever because they're basically a massive champ.

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Quite right. Well done.

I hear there are, like, shitloads of runners just wandering around looking for somewhere to sleep because they've missed their flights.

The BBC has reported that many of the people of Boston have offered rooms in their houses to runners.

You guys are badass. Good on you guys. There should be a medal or some shit.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Iczerfour on April 15, 2013, 11:23:30 pm
Rinella I hope your friend's surgery goes smoothly. I also hope there are no more deaths and that they find who did this and Throw the book at them.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 15, 2013, 11:26:01 pm
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Quite right. Well done.

I hear there are, like, shitloads of runners just wandering around looking for somewhere to sleep because they've missed their flights.

The BBC has reported that many of the people of Boston have offered rooms in their houses to runners.
Too bad I'm like three hours away or so, otherwise I would. But I donated blood not that long ago so maybe that can help some of them.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Cataclysm on April 15, 2013, 11:30:01 pm
http://www.heavy.com/news/2013/04/westboro-baptist-church-will-picket-boston-bomb-funerals/

Why am I not surprised?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Søren on April 15, 2013, 11:31:00 pm
Alright, here are some reactions from university about the bombing, its placed behind a spoiler because it is offensive.

So if you click, read and bitch me out. Aint my problem

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: RinellaWasHere on April 15, 2013, 11:34:52 pm
It's done, she's stable. The arm was removed from three inches above the elbow. She's sleeping for now.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Damen on April 15, 2013, 11:36:27 pm
Is she aware of what they were going to do?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: syaoranvee on April 15, 2013, 11:36:50 pm
Here are various photos from the bombing, some of these are quite graphic:

http://imgur.com/a/riTdO (http://imgur.com/a/riTdO)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 15, 2013, 11:37:49 pm
Alright, here are some reactions from university about the bombing, its placed behind a spoiler because it is offensive.

So if you click, read and bitch me out. Aint my problem

(click to show/hide)
Some people can't fucking grow up. That's all.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: RinellaWasHere on April 15, 2013, 11:38:47 pm
Is she aware of what they were going to do?

Yes, she gave consent before they put her out. She was apparently out cold when she arrived, woke  for about two hours, and then knocked out for the operation.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: TheUnknown on April 15, 2013, 11:39:53 pm
Alright, here are some reactions from university about the bombing, its placed behind a spoiler because it is offensive.

So if you click, read and bitch me out. Aint my problem

(click to show/hide)

Where's your university?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: cheese007 on April 15, 2013, 11:40:43 pm
Speaking of offensive, the RR thread is a goldmine of fundie/conspiratorial/racist quotes: http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?185825-Explosions-at-Boston-Marathon
My personal favorites:
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Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Søren on April 15, 2013, 11:42:14 pm
Alright, here are some reactions from university about the bombing, its placed behind a spoiler because it is offensive.

So if you click, read and bitch me out. Aint my problem

(click to show/hide)

Where's your university?

melbourne
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Damen on April 15, 2013, 11:47:47 pm
Is she aware of what they were going to do?

Yes, she gave consent before they put her out. She was apparently out cold when she arrived, woke  for about two hours, and then knocked out for the operation.

Small mercy that it won't be as big of a shock when she wakes up. I just wish things had been different.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Scotsgit on April 15, 2013, 11:50:11 pm
http://www.heavy.com/news/2013/04/westboro-baptist-church-will-picket-boston-bomb-funerals/

Why am I not surprised?

My only hope this is the time someone snaps and gives that obnoxious brood a kicking.  Sorry, but they go too far.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Sleepy on April 15, 2013, 11:59:10 pm
Sadly, they'll just sue the ass off of whoever attacks them. Our best hope is people who attend the funerals solely to block the WBC.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 16, 2013, 12:01:06 am
For those wanting to hear how the better part of society is reacting: http://cor7ana.tumblr.com/post/48095552944/usatodaysports-examples-of-overwhelming

Alt link: http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2013/04/15/boston-marathon-blast-help/2086273/?csp=sporttumblr
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Cerim Treascair on April 16, 2013, 12:01:49 am
Sadly, they'll just sue the ass off of whoever attacks them. Our best hope is people who attend the funerals solely to block the WBC.

... it's not often I advocate a certain level of violence... but this has officially crossed the line.  They can't sue if they're DEAD! Put 'em all in the ground!
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Scotsgit on April 16, 2013, 12:07:22 am
For those wanting to hear how the better part of society is reacting: http://cor7ana.tumblr.com/post/48095552944/usatodaysports-examples-of-overwhelming

Alt link: http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2013/04/15/boston-marathon-blast-help/2086273/?csp=sporttumblr

Faith in humanity restored.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Iczerfour on April 16, 2013, 12:08:46 am
For those wanting to hear how the better part of society is reacting: http://cor7ana.tumblr.com/post/48095552944/usatodaysports-examples-of-overwhelming

Alt link: http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2013/04/15/boston-marathon-blast-help/2086273/?csp=sporttumblr

Faith in humanity is now at 50%...
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Sleepy on April 16, 2013, 12:21:18 am
Another link about people's generosity. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/spt--boston-marathon-explosions-attract-an-outpouring-of-help-from-city-s-residents-022321905.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/spt--boston-marathon-explosions-attract-an-outpouring-of-help-from-city-s-residents-022321905.html)

It's amazing to simply view the google doc and see how many people are willing to help.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on April 16, 2013, 12:27:19 am
I heard about this on the news. Even though I'm on the other side of the country, I know people who have been personally affected by this. Some friends of mine were actually present at the marathon that day. My thoughts go out to all the victims of the attack, their friends and families, and all the people in the Boston area.

I've spoilered the below for those of you who don't want to deal with conspiracy shit.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Radiation on April 16, 2013, 12:32:21 am
I heard about this on the news. Even though I'm on the other side of the country, I know people who have been personally affected by this. Some friends of mine were actually present at the marathon that day. My thoughts go out to all the victims of the attack, their friends and families, and all the people in the Boston area.

I've spoilered the below for those of you who don't want to deal with conspiracy shit.

(click to show/hide)

Eva, your image didn't show up for some reason so I just linked in mine.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Joey on April 16, 2013, 12:32:48 am
FWIW, Saudi story turned out to be true: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57579736/authorities-question-saudi-national-in-boston-attack/

But not considered a suspect yet.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on April 16, 2013, 12:32:52 am
I heard about this on the news. Even though I'm on the other side of the country, I know people who have been personally affected by this. Some friends of mine were actually present at the marathon that day. My thoughts go out to all the victims of the attack, their friends and families, and all the people in the Boston area.

I've spoilered the below for those of you who don't want to deal with conspiracy shit.

(click to show/hide)

Eva, your image didn't show up for some reason so I just linked in mine.

Thanks. I've changed it.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: ThunderWulf on April 16, 2013, 12:36:54 am
It's done, she's stable. The arm was removed from three inches above the elbow. She's sleeping for now.

Glad she's stable.  *hugs*
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 16, 2013, 12:44:59 am
FWIW, Saudi story turned out to be true: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57579736/authorities-question-saudi-national-in-boston-attack/

But not considered a suspect yet.
We never said it wasn't
What we were debunking was the NY Post that said the word suspect.  And we already linked that
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on April 16, 2013, 12:49:03 am
I really, really hope that the FBI conducts an actual fucking investigation and not a round of "blame the Arab." When the bombs went off on Oslo, people were instantly pointing fingers at Muslims, when the actual perpetrator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik) was a native-born, Christian, white Norwegian with no ties to any jihadist organizations. The rest of the Boston area should be on high alert but keep their wits about them before picking a random group to blame without evidence.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 16, 2013, 12:56:48 am
Well we wont know
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: ironbite on April 16, 2013, 01:12:19 am
Yes we will.  Once the investigation is over.

Ironbite-and really that's all we're gonna get.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Stormwarden on April 16, 2013, 03:08:20 am
Hey, everyone. Riniella, my thoughts are with you and your friend. Hugs go out to everyone here over this nightmarish event. May justice be swift and unfailing upon those responsible for this supreme act of cowardice, and may they experience the horrors of a horde of Honey Badgers going for the groin.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: BrandonL337 on April 16, 2013, 04:36:58 am
Here's something interesting:

http://gawker.com/5994736/cowboy-hat+wearing-hero-of-boston-bombings-is-famed-peace-activist?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

this guys a freaking hero, and that bloodstained flag is goddamn chilling.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: erictheblue on April 16, 2013, 07:18:27 am
A friend of mine wrote a short story on his blog about what should be the aftermath of the bombings. (http://www.caseyjonescaseyjones.com/story-042-sifting-out-the-truth/)  I admit to being a little worried, as Casey's stories tend to be a little warped. (One of his recent ones is about how it feels to fall into a black hole.) However, this one is perfect.

Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: SpaceProg on April 16, 2013, 07:47:39 am
It's done, she's stable. The arm was removed from three inches above the elbow. She's sleeping for now.
That's good.  It also leaves a good bit of room for a prosthetic to fit better.  Is it her dominant arm?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 16, 2013, 07:56:12 am
Go fuck yourself with a rusty nail liberal logic 101
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on April 16, 2013, 08:07:57 am
Christ, Rinella, I'm sorry to hear about your friend.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: SpaceProg on April 16, 2013, 08:44:05 am
Go fuck yourself with a rusty nail liberal logic 101
I'm not sure what you're referring to.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 16, 2013, 09:03:22 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BH7_LjpCYAI13_J.jpg)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 16, 2013, 09:22:21 am
Just go to liberal logic
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: mellenORL on April 16, 2013, 10:34:59 am
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kefkaownsall, were you referring to this?

It's so tasteless, it may possibly blow up in the face of the 'shopper who made it. It may yet turn out to be a crazed tea party fringe element gone terrorist. The TP has been attracting the Alex Jones rabid believers type for quite a while.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Barbarella on April 16, 2013, 10:46:10 am
It's done, she's stable. The arm was removed from three inches above the elbow. She's sleeping for now.

I'm glad she's okay. I hope she makes a speedy recovery. When she feels better, give her a hug for me. My heart goes out to her.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: SpaceProg on April 16, 2013, 10:55:29 am
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kefkaownsall, were you referring to this?

It's so tasteless, it may possibly blow up in the face of the 'shopper who made it. It may yet turn out to be a crazed tea party fringe element gone terrorist. The TP has been attracting the Alex Jones rabid believers type for quite a while.

If that's what was being referred to in that post then: Ugh.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Distind on April 16, 2013, 10:56:39 am
I find it facinating they'll construct words to put into Obama's mouth so they can hate him more.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Scotsgit on April 16, 2013, 11:00:32 am
I find it facinating they'll construct words to put into Obama's mouth so they can hate him more.

Odd thing:  Obama moved straight into action after hearing of the attacks.  He remained at the White House the whole time, working with various agencies to help out the situation.  And the Teabaggers loathe him for it.

But on 9/11, Bush sat in a school classroom staring vacantly into space for about 20 minutes before being taken to a bunker.  And the Teabaggers love him for it.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Art Vandelay on April 16, 2013, 11:01:48 am
kefkaownsall, were you referring to this?

It's so tasteless, it may possibly blow up in the face of the 'shopper who made it. It may yet turn out to be a crazed tea party fringe element gone terrorist. The TP has been attracting the Alex Jones rabid believers type for quite a while.

Not to mention, anti-government terrorism is quite a bit more common in the US than Islamic terrorism. Personally, I would not be the least bit surprised if the culprit turns out to be a teabagger.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: RinellaWasHere on April 16, 2013, 11:07:00 am
It's done, she's stable. The arm was removed from three inches above the elbow. She's sleeping for now.
That's good.  It also leaves a good bit of room for a prosthetic to fit better.  Is it her dominant arm?

Yeah. Right arm. I talked to her for a few minutes this morning. She's still in shock.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Scotsgit on April 16, 2013, 11:08:49 am
It's done, she's stable. The arm was removed from three inches above the elbow. She's sleeping for now.
That's good.  It also leaves a good bit of room for a prosthetic to fit better.  Is it her dominant arm?

Yeah. Right arm. I talked to her for a few minutes this morning. She's still in shock.

Hope you're bearing up well.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: RinellaWasHere on April 16, 2013, 11:21:11 am
It's done, she's stable. The arm was removed from three inches above the elbow. She's sleeping for now.
That's good.  It also leaves a good bit of room for a prosthetic to fit better.  Is it her dominant arm?

Yeah. Right arm. I talked to her for a few minutes this morning. She's still in shock.

Hope you're bearing up well.

Yeah, I'm trying to be strong. Didn't sleep much last night (about an hour, give or take), but I'm doing a little better.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: ThunderWulf on April 16, 2013, 11:24:57 am
Just found out that my boss' partner had a friend who was caught in the explosion. She had to get both legs amputated. :(

Rinella, I'm sure she will be in shock for a while. That's a pretty life changing event. The best thing you can do right now is be there for her. *hugs*
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 16, 2013, 11:36:04 am
I find it facinating they'll construct words to put into Obama's mouth so they can hate him more.
To borrow a phrase, yes they are that stupid.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 16, 2013, 11:52:19 am
Actually fuck Islamophobic Fox News, fuck Alex Jones, and fuck you liberallogic101
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Sleepy on April 16, 2013, 11:53:46 am
WHY DID AN ALEX JONES POST JUST APPEAR ON MY FACEBOOK? RAAAAAHHH
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 16, 2013, 11:57:41 am
WHY DID AN ALEX JONES POST JUST APPEAR ON MY FACEBOOK? RAAAAAHHH
Oh shit, Sleepy's hulking out!
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 16, 2013, 12:56:24 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/75049c3ace36f142340cca3472ea46e9/tumblr_mlcs9iQcfA1r5tnvyo6_250.jpg)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 16, 2013, 01:14:45 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/b03602789bb94826589aecb949458de4/tumblr_mlcqjzUHAl1s0ofj0o1_500.png)

Bravo...
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: RinellaWasHere on April 16, 2013, 01:21:00 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/b03602789bb94826589aecb949458de4/tumblr_mlcqjzUHAl1s0ofj0o1_500.png)

Bravo...

The tackling and the fact that his being questioned is treated as a sign of suspicion speaks volumes about how Islamophobic we are.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: mellenORL on April 16, 2013, 01:45:07 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/b03602789bb94826589aecb949458de4/tumblr_mlcqjzUHAl1s0ofj0o1_500.png)

Bravo...

The tackling and the fact that his being questioned is treated as a sign of suspicion speaks volumes about how Islamophobic we are.

Yup, and it's just a slight variant on the "Tackle any black guy running if a crime just happened nearby" mentality. So, black guys running away from gunfire get roughed over for no fucking reasonable reason at all...all the time.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 16, 2013, 02:12:35 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/75049c3ace36f142340cca3472ea46e9/tumblr_mlcs9iQcfA1r5tnvyo6_250.jpg)

This small sentiment actually got me kinda choked up...
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: TheUnknown on April 16, 2013, 02:33:49 pm
According to an article on Yahoo! News, the bombs contained ball bearings.  I believe it since I heard a news channel mentioning the same thing yesterday.  According to the article: (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/boston-marathon-bombs-full-shiny-round-debris-161952600.html)

Quote
“I have done post-attack analyses on attacks around the world, trying to learn lessons. ... The timing here, the devices themselves, the ball bearings used—you know, that’s not some kid in his garage putting something together,” Lynch said.

Though he repeatedly said he didn't want to get ahead of investigators, Lynch disputed speculation that the devices strongly indicated domestic, rather than international terrorism.

“I don’t think the trappings are … hokey or homegrown,” Lynch said. “Having two explosions, 11 seconds apart, that points to someone who has more competence at this and has training.”

Is there some precedent that says that domestic terrorists are amateur kids in their garages and don't usually know what their doing?  Because that what this seems to be insinuating.  Of course, this article could just be poorly worded.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 16, 2013, 02:35:19 pm
Last I checked, ball bearings can be obtained here, so the presence of them doesn't necessarily indicate that this is foreign.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: TheUnknown on April 16, 2013, 02:39:15 pm
Last I checked, ball bearings can be obtained here, so the presence of them doesn't necessarily indicate that this is foreign.

One of the comments said that he may have been talking about using ball bearings in conjunction with pressure cookers.  Some others pointed out that that still means nothing in regards to whether or not it's domestic.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 16, 2013, 02:40:55 pm
According to an article on Yahoo! News, the bombs contained ball bearings.  I believe it since I heard a news channel mentioning the same thing yesterday.
Yup, these were shrapnel bombs (http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/15/us/boston-marathon-investigation/index.html).
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Radiation on April 16, 2013, 02:43:27 pm
While I am sure that a foreigner or foreigners living in the country could very well obtain the training and the expertise to create a shrapnel bomb (which is what this basically is) I also have been looking at clues and my own speculation points to it being a domestic homegrown terrorist or group.

One of the reasons why I think this is that they, like McVeigh used a rental truck (Penske), also, it was done on Tax Day, the bombings happened in Boston, and that the city is known for it's historical sentiments. This whole operation is full of symbolism and reeks of some sort of reactionary action.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: RinellaWasHere on April 16, 2013, 02:44:02 pm
I come bearing gifts-

http://www.bostonmarathonconspiracy.com/
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 16, 2013, 02:45:08 pm
Last I checked, ball bearings can be obtained here, so the presence of them doesn't necessarily indicate that this is foreign.

One of the comments said that he may have been talking about using ball bearings in conjunction with pressure cookers.  Some others pointed out that that still means nothing in regards to whether or not it's domestic.

Yeah, it sounds like it could easily be someone who took some advice from previous terrorist attacks.

Occam's Razor, to me, indicates that the more likely situation is a domestic terrorist, since that's the simplest answer that can fit within the facts.

Not to mention, if it was Al Qaeda, they'd be claiming responsibility for it, because they're terrorists with an agenda -- they want to strike terror into people's hearts and they want them to know who did it.

The person or people who did this want to remain anonymous.  Maybe they want people to speculate.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 16, 2013, 02:46:45 pm
Last I checked, ball bearings can be obtained here, so the presence of them doesn't necessarily indicate that this is foreign.

One of the comments said that he may have been talking about using ball bearings in conjunction with pressure cookers.  Some others pointed out that that still means nothing in regards to whether or not it's domestic.
Of course it means nothing; Eric Rudolph did more or less the same thing when he attacked the Olympic Games in Atlanta. A few pipe bombs in an ALICE pack surrounded by nails.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: erictheblue on April 16, 2013, 02:50:41 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/75049c3ace36f142340cca3472ea46e9/tumblr_mlcs9iQcfA1r5tnvyo6_250.jpg)

This small sentiment actually got me kinda choked up...

It took me a second to understand what you meant. When I first saw that picture, I took it to be some jackass's photoshop, inferring that Islamic terrorists were behind the bombing. ("with love" being a sarcastic statement. In other words, "enjoy the 'gift' we sent to Boston.")

I like your interpretation better
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Scotsgit on April 16, 2013, 02:58:26 pm
Last I checked, ball bearings can be obtained here, so the presence of them doesn't necessarily indicate that this is foreign.

One of the comments said that he may have been talking about using ball bearings in conjunction with pressure cookers.  Some others pointed out that that still means nothing in regards to whether or not it's domestic.

Yeah, it sounds like it could easily be someone who took some advice from previous terrorist attacks.

Occam's Razor, to me, indicates that the more likely situation is a domestic terrorist, since that's the simplest answer that can fit within the facts.

Not to mention, if it was Al Qaeda, they'd be claiming responsibility for it, because they're terrorists with an agenda -- they want to strike terror into people's hearts and they want them to know who did it.

The person or people who did this want to remain anonymous.  Maybe they want people to speculate.

I'd go with Zachski:  If there's one thing terrorists love, it's the glare of publicity.  Within a couple of hours of 9/11, Al-Qaeda had claimed responsibility, going so far as to outline how the operation was carried out (including technical details so everyone knew it really was them).  Other terrorist groups such as ETA, PIRA or the UVF have all done exactly the same.  The last time one of these far-right groups did anything, as far as I can recall they either all stayed silent or condemned the attack.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: SpaceProg on April 16, 2013, 03:16:20 pm
Rin, I wish your friend a speedy healing in both mind and body.  The shock won't go away overnight though, unfortunately.   


Shrapnel bombs... fill the bomb cavity with all sorts of unpleasant things to hurt or kill as many people as you can... Cowards.  Damn, damn cowards.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Bezron on April 16, 2013, 03:17:28 pm
Last I checked, ball bearings can be obtained here, so the presence of them doesn't necessarily indicate that this is foreign.

One of the comments said that he may have been talking about using ball bearings in conjunction with pressure cookers.  Some others pointed out that that still means nothing in regards to whether or not it's domestic.

Yeah, it sounds like it could easily be someone who took some advice from previous terrorist attacks.

Occam's Razor, to me, indicates that the more likely situation is a domestic terrorist, since that's the simplest answer that can fit within the facts.

Not to mention, if it was Al Qaeda, they'd be claiming responsibility for it, because they're terrorists with an agenda -- they want to strike terror into people's hearts and they want them to know who did it.

The person or people who did this want to remain anonymous.  Maybe they want people to speculate.

I'd go with Zachski:  If there's one thing terrorists love, it's the glare of publicity.  Within a couple of hours of 9/11, Al-Qaeda had claimed responsibility, going so far as to outline how the operation was carried out (including technical details so everyone knew it really was them).  Other terrorist groups such as ETA, PIRA or the UVF have all done exactly the same.  The last time one of these far-right groups did anything, as far as I can recall they either all stayed silent or condemned the attack.

This.

I have a sneaking suspicion that this is going to turn out to be a domestic terrorist and that they are staying silent because they are trying to exit the country before they get disappeared into Gitmo.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: TheUnknown on April 16, 2013, 04:04:21 pm
I come bearing gifts-

http://www.bostonmarathonconspiracy.com/

I saw this link on tumblr and both that one and this one leads to a blank page for me.  What is it?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: RinellaWasHere on April 16, 2013, 04:21:39 pm
I come bearing gifts-

http://www.bostonmarathonconspiracy.com/

I saw this link on tumblr and both that one and this one leads to a blank page for me.  What is it?

An excellent little message:

Quote
I BOUGHT THIS DOMAIN TO KEEP SOME
CONSPIRACY THEORY KOOK FROM OWNING IT.

PLEASE KEEP THE VICTIMS OF THIS EVENT
AND THEIR FAMILIES IN YOUR THOUGHTS.

THANK YOU.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Damen on April 16, 2013, 04:30:42 pm
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/16/article-2309545-19539166000005DC-574_964x718.jpg)

This is Martin Richard, the child who was killed in Boston. The people who did this are monsters and I feel monsters are unimportant. But we must remember those harmed by monsters and we must remember that monsters are things to be fought and not haunted by.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Cerim Treascair on April 16, 2013, 04:43:36 pm
Forge and Flame, he looks like one of my cousins when I was growing up...
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: R. U. Sirius on April 16, 2013, 04:44:42 pm
I haven't posted in this thread before because I really felt that I had nothing of value to offer.

Then I realized that an expression of solidarity has its own value.

*hugs Rin* My heart goes out to you and your friend, as well as all of the other victims.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Stormwarden on April 17, 2013, 01:19:59 am
I wish everyone well after what happened in Boston. I know several of you had friends who were hurt, and I wish them a speedy recovery. I just want to know what kind of sick fuck does this. What drives a person to blow up an event where chances are, those in it had nothing to do with their troubles?

Looks like I'll be reading "Mind Hunter" again.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Meshakhad on April 17, 2013, 01:24:34 am
There have been many wonderful tributes and messages of sympathy. But the one that stands out, in my opinion, comes from none other than the goddamn New York Yankees (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1607148-united-we-stand-thoughts-on-the-new-york-yankees-tribute-to-boston).

Quote
Think about picking on your little brother. You might do it all the time. But as soon as a school bully starts to pick on your little brother, that bully has a new problem and its name is You.

Nobody picks on your little brother but you.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: chitoryu12 on April 17, 2013, 01:26:51 am
There have been many wonderful tributes and messages of sympathy. But the one that stands out, in my opinion, comes from none other than the goddamn New York Yankees (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1607148-united-we-stand-thoughts-on-the-new-york-yankees-tribute-to-boston).

Quote
Think about picking on your little brother. You might do it all the time. But as soon as a school bully starts to pick on your little brother, that bully has a new problem and its name is You.

Nobody picks on your little brother but you.

Does this mean that the New York Yankees are forming a baseball-themed task force to stop terrorism?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: RinellaWasHere on April 17, 2013, 01:30:32 am
There have been many wonderful tributes and messages of sympathy. But the one that stands out, in my opinion, comes from none other than the goddamn New York Yankees (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1607148-united-we-stand-thoughts-on-the-new-york-yankees-tribute-to-boston).

Quote
Think about picking on your little brother. You might do it all the time. But as soon as a school bully starts to pick on your little brother, that bully has a new problem and its name is You.

Nobody picks on your little brother but you.

Does this mean that the New York Yankees are forming a baseball-themed task force to stop terrorism?

And if it doesn't, can we make it mean that?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Itachirumon on April 17, 2013, 01:40:40 am
My heart and support go out to you guys too Rinella - I know I've been a bit mum on it.

...Incidentally, and I really hope this doesn't come off as insensitive, we're studying some stuff in one of my classes now I've heard a few times before but the class reminded me and it might come in handy for your friend. When she's feeling a bit better, have her look up Dr. Ramachandran's research - he's done a lot of interesting stuff involving phantom limbs and how to deal with them when they arise. She might even look into speaking to him over the phone or by email.

But lots of well wishing and hugs.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Meshakhad on April 17, 2013, 01:42:09 am
There have been many wonderful tributes and messages of sympathy. But the one that stands out, in my opinion, comes from none other than the goddamn New York Yankees (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1607148-united-we-stand-thoughts-on-the-new-york-yankees-tribute-to-boston).

Quote
Think about picking on your little brother. You might do it all the time. But as soon as a school bully starts to pick on your little brother, that bully has a new problem and its name is You.

Nobody picks on your little brother but you.

Does this mean that the New York Yankees are forming a baseball-themed task force to stop terrorism?

And if it doesn't, can we make it mean that?

If this means that terrorists are about to have the everloving snot beaten out of them by angry baseball players, then I strongly approve.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: RinellaWasHere on April 17, 2013, 01:59:55 am
My heart and support go out to you guys too Rinella - I know I've been a bit mum on it.

...Incidentally, and I really hope this doesn't come off as insensitive, we're studying some stuff in one of my classes now I've heard a few times before but the class reminded me and it might come in handy for your friend. When she's feeling a bit better, have her look up Dr. Ramachandran's research - he's done a lot of interesting stuff involving phantom limbs and how to deal with them when they arise. She might even look into speaking to him over the phone or by email.

But lots of well wishing and hugs.

Thanks, and I'll let her know. She didn't acknowledge it at all when we Skyped earlier- wouldn't even look to her right. In addition to the arm, she's got some pretty bad burns and a lot of shrapnel damage on her right side. She's... she's been hurt pretty bad.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 17, 2013, 02:04:37 am
I dont know what to say man *hug*
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: starseeker on April 17, 2013, 05:21:29 am
Suppose all I can really do is offer tea and probably some cake. I hope they catch the fucker who did this.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Itachirumon on April 17, 2013, 06:44:51 am
I wish I knew why this world was so effing fucked up.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: starseeker on April 17, 2013, 08:03:06 am
I wish I knew why this world was so effing fucked up.

Was the world fucked up first and made people fucked up, or were the people fucked up first and made the world fucked up?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: chitoryu12 on April 17, 2013, 08:30:35 am
I wish I knew why this world was so effing fucked up.

Was the world fucked up first and made people fucked up, or were the people fucked up first and made the world fucked up?

It's a cycle. Fucked up people create fucked up people, who make more fucked up people with their mistakes or evil actions. And nobody is willing to see past their fears and ignorance to try and solve the inherent problems that get involved in creating fucked up people; they spend their time instead trying to change regulations, ban this and that, punish more people more harshly to try and scare crime away, and react in fear. Instead of trying to create a world where these kind of people don't do what they do in the first place.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Barbarella on April 17, 2013, 10:49:40 am
I wish I knew why this world was so effing fucked up.

Was the world fucked up first and made people fucked up, or were the people fucked up first and made the world fucked up?

It's a cycle. Fucked up people create fucked up people, who make more fucked up people with their mistakes or evil actions. And nobody is willing to see past their fears and ignorance to try and solve the inherent problems that get involved in creating fucked up people; they spend their time instead trying to change regulations, ban this and that, punish more people more harshly to try and scare crime away, and react in fear. Instead of trying to create a world where these kind of people don't do what they do in the first place.

...In other words, change starts from within. We need to:

* Improve ourselves, try to control our anger, learn to love.
* Help one another, even strangers.
* Never live in a bubble....less "cocooning".
* Practice random acts of kindness, be kind to others.
* Fight for better funding & improvement of mental health services.
* Not be so dang misanthropic & hyper-cynical.

I just heard that the Gun Control bill isn't expected to go through. However, trying to stay positive, I know that this bill can be rewritten & put through again and again and again.

Really! What does the NRA do to have power? Yell a lot? IGNORE THEM!

We The People need to pressure the Dems to be stronger, grow more backbone & be just as cut-throat.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: ThunderWulf on April 17, 2013, 11:09:50 am
Found out another friend of a friend who was seriously injured in the bombing.  Also, the guy in the picture who the cowboy hat peace activist was helping I found out lives only 2 towns over from me.

My heart and support go out to you guys too Rinella - I know I've been a bit mum on it.

...Incidentally, and I really hope this doesn't come off as insensitive, we're studying some stuff in one of my classes now I've heard a few times before but the class reminded me and it might come in handy for your friend. When she's feeling a bit better, have her look up Dr. Ramachandran's research - he's done a lot of interesting stuff involving phantom limbs and how to deal with them when they arise. She might even look into speaking to him over the phone or by email.

But lots of well wishing and hugs.

Thanks, and I'll let her know. She didn't acknowledge it at all when we Skyped earlier- wouldn't even look to her right. In addition to the arm, she's got some pretty bad burns and a lot of shrapnel damage on her right side. She's... she's been hurt pretty bad.

*hugs*  I wish I had a car right now. I live in the Greater Boston area and would be more than willing to give her a big hug for you.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Barbarella on April 17, 2013, 11:29:16 am
Found out another friend of a friend who was seriously injured in the bombing.  Also, the guy in the picture who the cowboy hat peace activist was helping I found out lives only 2 towns over from me.

My heart and support go out to you guys too Rinella - I know I've been a bit mum on it.

...Incidentally, and I really hope this doesn't come off as insensitive, we're studying some stuff in one of my classes now I've heard a few times before but the class reminded me and it might come in handy for your friend. When she's feeling a bit better, have her look up Dr. Ramachandran's research - he's done a lot of interesting stuff involving phantom limbs and how to deal with them when they arise. She might even look into speaking to him over the phone or by email.

But lots of well wishing and hugs.

Thanks, and I'll let her know. She didn't acknowledge it at all when we Skyped earlier- wouldn't even look to her right. In addition to the arm, she's got some pretty bad burns and a lot of shrapnel damage on her right side. She's... she's been hurt pretty bad.

*hugs*  I wish I had a car right now. I live in the Greater Boston area and would be more than willing to give her a big hug for you.

Warm, nurturing, healing love-snuggles from me, too!

...and COOKIES!...
(http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx200/BarbarellaSteele1975/Much-Used%20FSTDT%20Stock%20Images/girl-scout-cookies.jpg) (http://s755.photobucket.com/user/BarbarellaSteele1975/media/Much-Used%20FSTDT%20Stock%20Images/girl-scout-cookies.jpg.html)
...lots and lots of cookies!
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Sleepy on April 17, 2013, 12:08:04 pm
...In other words, change starts from within. We need to:

* Improve ourselves, try to control our anger, learn to love.
* Help one another, even strangers.
* Never live in a bubble....less "cocooning".
* Practice random acts of kindness, be kind to others.
* Fight for better funding & improvement of mental health services.
* Not be so dang misanthropic & hyper-cynical.

I think we have to address a lot more core issues before a few of those points will work. One of them is the foster system. Even if a kid is neglected and abused, workers are told they must do all they can to keep the children with their biological parents. This results in children being forced to live in abusive households, which continues the cycle of abuse, crime, and the overall negative impact on our society. What we need to do is eliminate that mindset. A child will be far better off with adoptive parents who provide love and care than he will be with abusive biological parents. I don't understand why the system has that shitty mindset because it makes no sense and leads to children literally being dragged kicking and screaming back into households where they will continue to face abuse. It makes me sick.

Of course, like you said, funding for mental healthcare would help a great amount, as well. As would universal healthcare, but people are pussies about that.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 17, 2013, 01:13:05 pm
(http://media.tumblr.com/a42d7fbf4e77f65f91ab50cfd15925ad/tumblr_inline_mldalfxvbe1qz4rgp.jpg)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 17, 2013, 01:41:26 pm
I'm honestly pleasantly surprised at the support we're getting from foreign countries -- and not just any foreign countries, but the Middle East.  And one country we even invaded.

Not that I think the Middle East is uncompassionate, but because this feels like something that wouldn't (or maybe shouldn't) get that much international attention.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: erictheblue on April 17, 2013, 01:44:30 pm
CNN is reporting that a law enforcement source stated that they have a picture of a suspect, taken from a Lords and Taylor surveillance camera. (I'm posting from my phone, so can't post a link.) The report says they have a "dark-skinned male" dropping a bag in the area of the bombing.

Of course, "dark-skinned male" can mean any number of things. And this report is unconfirmed, so it could be false, or it could lead nowhere.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 17, 2013, 01:56:29 pm
CNN is reporting that a law enforcement source stated that they have a picture of a suspect, taken from a Lords and Taylor surveillance camera. (I'm posting from my phone, so can't post a link.) The report says they have a "dark-skinned male" dropping a bag in the area of the bombing.

Of course, "dark-skinned male" can mean any number of things. And this report is unconfirmed, so it could be false, or it could lead nowhere.
http://twitter.com/thinkprogress/statuses/324579872800399361
http://twitter.com/Reuters/statuses/324578856872849408
http://twitter.com/AP/statuses/324578507290185728

None of them have links as of yet or any descriptions. But... we may very well see justice soon.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: ironbite on April 17, 2013, 02:49:22 pm
CNN is reporting there is a suspect in custody.  this report is false

ironbite-there is no suspect in custody
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Sleepy on April 17, 2013, 03:27:55 pm
They saw a potential suspect in surveillance videos who dropped a black bag near the second bombing site, but no one has been arrested.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/boston-marathon-investigation-fbi-announce-substantial-progress-probe-170749073.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/boston-marathon-investigation-fbi-announce-substantial-progress-probe-170749073.html)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: The Illusive Man on April 17, 2013, 03:29:43 pm
Welp, Fox is getting their info from 4chan now. Because 4chan, where the 4 is 4 4ensic amirite?
(http://img.thenewsjunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/Screen-Shot-2013-04-17-at-6.44.28-AM-560x477.png?43893b)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 17, 2013, 04:05:22 pm
CNN is once again proving why I don't trust them any more than I trust Fox News.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 17, 2013, 04:13:35 pm
Welp, Fox is getting their info from 4chan now. Because 4chan, where the 4 is 4 4ensic amirite?
(http://img.thenewsjunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/Screen-Shot-2013-04-17-at-6.44.28-AM-560x477.png?43893b)
Reminds me of the 9/11 Truther "evidence":
(http://www.reopen911.org/ReOpen911_2007Archive/images/main_anim.jpg)

Look! See? We have photographs that we doodled on!
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Askold on April 18, 2013, 12:01:03 am
I don't know if the 4chan info is right but at least they did their work well. They identified some people with bagbacks that look a bit like the remains of the bomb and a thousand monkies going through the thousands of pictures of the marathon... Theoretically it is possible that they could have found the real perpetratators.

Or not. Some of the stuff from here: http://imgur.com/a/sUrnA#x4RcvKB looks a bit fishy or far fetched but I do admit that it's more believable than the stuff from 9/11 truthers. Besides the actual law enforcement does know real forensics so I am sure this terrorist(s?) will get found. I still don't believe that a perfect crime is possible, there is some evidence somewhere and with the resources available for something like this I think they'll be found.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Sleepy on April 18, 2013, 11:09:59 am
Well, investigators are making progress. They've got two men of interest, seen in videos.

news.yahoo.com/napolitano-2-men-interest-boston-bomb-video-144217698.html (http://news.yahoo.com/napolitano-2-men-interest-boston-bomb-video-144217698.html)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Scotsgit on April 18, 2013, 11:27:54 am
Oh good grief... Conspiratards are already claiming it's Obama helping his muslim friends.

Arseholes.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: R. U. Sirius on April 18, 2013, 11:30:47 am
Oh good grief... Conspiratards are already claiming it's Obama helping his muslim friends.

Arseholes.

You mean they didn't start the first day?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Scotsgit on April 18, 2013, 11:34:05 am
Oh good grief... Conspiratards are already claiming it's Obama helping his muslim friends.

Arseholes.

You mean they didn't start the first day?

This one was a on a friend's newsfeed on FB.  He didn't have anything beyond a link to a conspiracy website that claimed the Police arrested a Saudi (how do they know he's a Saudi?) man on, wait for it, the grassy knoll.  You know, the grassy knoll that is there because the streets are all paved.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: mellenORL on April 18, 2013, 12:48:44 pm
Oh good grief... Conspiratards are already claiming it's Obama helping his muslim friends.

Arseholes.

You mean they didn't start the first day?

This one was a on a friend's newsfeed on FB.  He didn't have anything beyond a link to a conspiracy website that claimed the Police arrested a Saudi (how do they know he's a Saudi?) man on, wait for it, the grassy knoll.  You know, the grassy knoll that is there because the streets are all paved.

The uber-infamous grassy knoll, like the one featured in JFK assassination conspiracy theories about multiple gunmen? Now, I wonder if that post on the conspiraphile site was a snarky, snarky Poe...?
Title: Re: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: ThunderWulf on April 18, 2013, 01:19:22 pm
Oh good grief... Conspiratards are already claiming it's Obama helping his muslim friends.

Arseholes.

You mean they didn't start the first day?

This one was a on a friend's newsfeed on FB.  He didn't have anything beyond a link to a conspiracy website that claimed the Police arrested a Saudi (how do they know he's a Saudi?) man on, wait for it, the grassy knoll.  You know, the grassy knoll that is there because the streets are all paved.

Grassy knoll? In freaking BOSTON?!

What is that guy smoking?
Title: Re: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Scotsgit on April 18, 2013, 01:56:46 pm
Oh good grief... Conspiratards are already claiming it's Obama helping his muslim friends.

Arseholes.

You mean they didn't start the first day?


This one was a on a friend's newsfeed on FB.  He didn't have anything beyond a link to a conspiracy website that claimed the Police arrested a Saudi (how do they know he's a Saudi?) man on, wait for it, the grassy knoll.  You know, the grassy knoll that is there because the streets are all paved.

Grassy knoll? In freaking BOSTON?!

What is that guy smoking?

I did wonder if this is the fate of all Conspiratards, that they get so mixed up that they end up claiming that there was a second gunman on the grassy knoll on 9/11 at Rendlesham Forest in Roswell.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: mellenORL on April 18, 2013, 02:44:48 pm
Quote
I did wonder if this is the fate of all Conspiratards, that they get so mixed up that they end up claiming that
there was a second gunman on the grassy knoll on 9/11 at Rendlesham Forest in Roswell.

I want that on a T-shirt - priceless!
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: cheese007 on April 18, 2013, 05:54:46 pm
FBI has released photos and video of two suspects in the case: http://www.fbi.gov/news/updates-on-investigation-into-multiple-explosions-in-boston/updates-on-investigation-into-multiple-explosions-in-boston
Also, this gem of a quote from Rapture Ready:
Quote from: Saved By Jesus
I will say it this way:

First of all, let me make it perfectly clear here that I am NOT defending the religion of Islam here in any way shape or form, in that, Muslims are deceived and spiritually blinded by Satan and his demonic forces, and, they are in desperate need of salvation through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

However, I DO believe that much of this so-called "War on Terror", (and, specifically, the "War on Islamic Terror"), is a hoax and a fraud that is being perpetrated upon the people of this world by the New World Order "powers that be" in order for them to implement the tyrannical police state, (eventually led by the Antichrist), that they want to have in order to control the world populations.

Yes, EVERY government on the face of this Earth is run by fallen and evil and wicked and sinful and power-hungry mankind, the United States government included!

**THANKFULLY, the Rapture of the Church will probably take place before this tyrannical world-wide police state is fully implemented here upon this Earth!**

And yes, I DO believe that those two explosions at the Boston Marathon were staged attacks in order to help to "further move along" the march towards this New World Order police state!


Saved By Jesus (http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?185825-2-Explosions-during-the-Boston-Marathon&p=2382261#post2382261)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: chitoryu12 on April 18, 2013, 07:06:42 pm
Not as good as this one from the same thread:

Quote
Not sure if these events are staged but what can we really expect when electing a Palestinian President and not expecting our land to wind up like another worn torn Middle East region.

Palestinian.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: cheese007 on April 18, 2013, 07:16:05 pm
Buzzardhut is insane. Probably one of the craziest people on that forum, and certainly the craziest mod. He's the one who seems to enforce the ideological purity over there.
EDIT: http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?185912-FBI-releases-pictures-of-bomb-suspects
They're saying the guys are middle-eastern still ahahahahahaha!
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: mellenORL on April 18, 2013, 07:28:52 pm
Quote
I cannot tell the race at all. The images are too fuzzy---other than they are not black men. Which I am glad, because that would stir up a different can of worms the neegrahs.

 No matter who they represent--it is going to open up a can of worms. But for the sake of believers, I do hope they are not white militants because ignorant liberals love to paint all   take pictures of us in that camp.

Too easy, Jeezy? :P
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: cheese007 on April 18, 2013, 08:02:34 pm
Thread has been merged with this one: http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?185825-2-Explosions-during-the-Boston-Marathon/page17
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Radiation on April 18, 2013, 10:04:15 pm
Apparently there are unaware that there are white people that look Middle Eastern...like...Sicilians.

Also, what is up with Buzzardnut calling President Obama Owebama? That's just awkward and how do you pronounce it? Oh-we-bama? Ow-e-bama?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: cheese007 on April 18, 2013, 10:14:53 pm
I think the possibility of this being the work of a white guy has purged his mind of all remaining sanity. Have you seen some of the shit he's posting? He's honestly claiming that the Obama let the "real, Saudi perpetrator" go to please the Saudi king. Oh, and these pictures:
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 18, 2013, 10:16:31 pm
They don't look middle eastern.  Look Caucasian as fuck
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Radiation on April 18, 2013, 10:17:34 pm
Those are fucking insane. I wanna know if he made those or not but they're stupid.

Also, AT&T fiber optics were sabotaged? I didn't read or hear anything about that.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 18, 2013, 10:31:37 pm
Write what I want or you're a traitor!

Beck is honest to god saying that the random Saudi guy did it, but Obama let him go. So is Fox.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: cheese007 on April 18, 2013, 10:33:43 pm
Link. I'd expect it from Beck, but I don't think even FOX would sink that far. Would explain why that's what all the fundie's are saying though.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Sleepy on April 18, 2013, 11:50:47 pm
Apparently there are unaware that there are white people that look Middle Eastern...like...Sicilians.

Also, what is up with Buzzardnut calling President Obama Owebama? That's just awkward and how do you pronounce it? Oh-we-bama? Ow-e-bama?

I think he means Owe - bama, stating that Obama owes us something. I don't know the poster, so I'm not sure what he says Obama owes us. Don't think I wanna know.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 18, 2013, 11:54:05 pm
Blaming Obama for the moderate public debt accumulated as part of the Bush Recession.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Sleepy on April 19, 2013, 12:10:29 am
Probably. Given the nature of the site, it could be several things. He owes us an apology, an explanation (on why he's apparently Palestinian and still President here), money, religious freedoms (ie, establishing Christianity as the official religion because they're persecuted so much), etc.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Barbarella on April 19, 2013, 11:22:35 am
Okay. They're getting these guys! Black Hat is now dead. White hat is barricaded in an apartment. They're Chechen Islamozealots who appear to be immigrants who got stupid ideas. Their family came here as refugees and by all accounts, a nice, decent family. But the two main guys are Islamozealot goobers. For more details, read the thread on "Who do you think was behind the Boston Attacks"?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Meshakhad on April 19, 2013, 01:22:07 pm
They don't look middle eastern.  Look Caucasian as fuck

Both, actually. They're real Caucasians - from the Caucasus, which happens to be on the edge of the Middle East.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Atavist on April 19, 2013, 08:57:28 pm
Second supect has been captured by the police. Memo from the Mayor of Boston, "We have him!"
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on April 19, 2013, 09:03:09 pm
I only heard about this early yesterday. I got really sick on Monday and was in no state to watch TV. Glad they got him relatively quickly. But how is this related to MIT?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: QueenofHearts on April 19, 2013, 09:07:37 pm
I only heard about this early yesterday. I got really sick on Monday and was in no state to watch TV. Glad they got him relatively quickly. But how is this related to MIT?

The perpetraitors went to MIT and shot an MIT officer.

Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Boston_Marathon_bombings) has the details, under "MIT Shootings & Watertown Incidents."
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: chitoryu12 on April 19, 2013, 09:07:46 pm
I only heard about this early yesterday. I got really sick on Monday and was in no state to watch TV. Glad they got him relatively quickly. But how is this related to MIT?

After finding that they were ID'd in the news, the two panicked and robbed a convenience store, then shot a cop dead at MIT while he was in his car and carjacked an SUV at gunpoint. Led the police on a GTA-style chase (including shooting and throwing a bomb from the car). Black hat was killed from gunshot wounds and injuries from his own bomb, while white hat was found hiding under a boat canvas in someone's yard and flashbanged into submission for arrest.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Radiation on April 19, 2013, 10:01:18 pm
Damn, I miss out on so much stuff because I don't have a TV.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: chitoryu12 on April 19, 2013, 10:06:01 pm
I think the two would have had a better chance if they had at least fled the city, if not the state entirely. It seems like after the bombing they just hung around and tried to go about business as usual, then freaked out when they saw their faces on the news and did what comes close to flailing and screaming in a panic.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: The Illusive Man on April 19, 2013, 10:41:14 pm
Damn, I miss out on so much stuff because I don't have a TV.
It is almost as if that constant 24hr news cycle is good for something.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 20, 2013, 07:14:59 pm
I didn't watch tv for this.

Also, here are some myths and such about the bombings:

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/ce5dbc3f8baeb0b634531c6412e4dbb0/tumblr_mlh8abGIqR1s9bs00o1_500.png)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/3ae6bead4db6c090e4a28ff875b548fc/tumblr_mlh8abGIqR1s9bs00o2_500.png)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/3d521d23e5e85acf1cc25de80d0bcbaf/tumblr_mlh8abGIqR1s9bs00o3_500.png)

Some of these were circulated like wildfire during the first few hours with no real attempt at getting the truth out.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: TheUnknown on April 20, 2013, 07:29:04 pm
I didn't watch tv for this.

Also, here are some myths and such about the bombings:

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/ce5dbc3f8baeb0b634531c6412e4dbb0/tumblr_mlh8abGIqR1s9bs00o1_500.png)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/3ae6bead4db6c090e4a28ff875b548fc/tumblr_mlh8abGIqR1s9bs00o2_500.png)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/3d521d23e5e85acf1cc25de80d0bcbaf/tumblr_mlh8abGIqR1s9bs00o3_500.png)

Some of these were circulated like wildfire during the first few hours with no real attempt at getting the truth out.

The 8-year-old girl one popped up on my dash, leaving me thoroughly confused when I saw it because I had just heard that the youngest victim was an 8-year-old boy.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Rime on April 20, 2013, 07:32:20 pm
I figured that he's calling him Owebama because he's run up a huge debt giving his banker friends billions of dollars in bailout money and continuing to rack up record debt and giving money to the 41% who think they're entitled to everything without having ever done an honest day's work!  (Not that I think he's actually done that, but I'm sure that's Buzzard Hut means.  There's plenty of sources on Faux News that have repeated that mantra over and over and over.)

And thank you, Shane, for posting up the myths about the bombing.  My mother-in-law really made her daughter furious when she wound up being circulating some of those on Facebook.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 20, 2013, 08:56:31 pm
I figured that he's calling him Owebama because he's run up a huge debt giving his banker friends billions of dollars in bailout money and continuing to rack up record debt and giving money to the 41% who think they're entitled to everything without having ever done an honest day's work!  (Not that I think he's actually done that, but I'm sure that's Buzzard Hut means.  There's plenty of sources on Faux News that have repeated that mantra over and over and over.)

And thank you, Shane, for posting up the myths about the bombing.  My mother-in-law really made her daughter furious when she wound up being circulating some of those on Facebook.

You're welcome. In case it isn't obvious by the layout it's from Snopes.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Barbarella on April 21, 2013, 09:49:36 am
I figured that he's calling him Owebama because he's run up a huge debt giving his banker friends billions of dollars in bailout money and continuing to rack up record debt and giving money to the 41% who think they're entitled to everything without having ever done an honest day's work!  (Not that I think he's actually done that, but I'm sure that's Buzzard Hut means.  There's plenty of sources on Faux News that have repeated that mantra over and over and over.)

And thank you, Shane, for posting up the myths about the bombing.  My mother-in-law really made her daughter furious when she wound up being circulating some of those on Facebook.

You're welcome. In case it isn't obvious by the layout it's from Snopes.

I saw that Snopes article. I'll post the whole thing:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/boston.asp (http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/boston.asp)
There a whole bunch of reports, rumors, half-truths & whole lies. Enjoy!
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: chad sexington on April 21, 2013, 09:22:00 pm
Damn, I miss out on so much stuff because I don't have a TV.


Everything I know about this event, I learned from here.  Except for the initial report, which was on the radio at work, and didn't give much detail beyond "a thing happened".
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 22, 2013, 08:59:49 pm
Your mileage may vary, but this was the most heartwarming thing to come out of the bombing for me:

Quote
RAMALLAH, West Bank -- With the Boston Marathon bombings on their mind, hundreds of Palestinian and international runners participated Sunday in what was billed as the first Palestinian marathon...

Before it began, Jibril Rajoub, head of the Palestinian Olympic Committee, asked runners to bow their heads in silence for one minute in remembrance of the Boston Marathon victims.

“As we stand here at the Nativity Square, we should bow in silence for one minute for the victims who died in the terrorist act last week in the Boston Marathon,” he said.

http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-palestinian-marathon-20130421,0,469151.story?track=rss
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: DiscoBerry on April 23, 2013, 11:55:14 am
Anyone want to venture a guess as to what would happen if the Feds, Staties, and locals had put another city, say Houston on lockdown?  I would imagine bands of armed vigilantes to say the least. 
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: mellenORL on April 23, 2013, 12:06:47 pm
OMG....I can see it now. Rednecks shooting at random Middle Eastern people, every convenience store clerk shot in the head, plenty of Latinos shot for "lookin' like a mooslam", Sikhs in turbans lying in pools of blood, paranoid dorks shooting National Guardsmen and cops who dare to knock on their door for a house search to find the terrorists because false flag - pry my gun from my cold dead hand.....
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 23, 2013, 12:10:53 pm
OMG....I can see it now. Rednecks shooting at random Middle Eastern people, every convenience store clerk shot in the head, plenty of Latinos shot for "lookin' like a mooslam", Sikhs in turbans lying in pools of blood, paranoid dorks shooting National Guardsmen and cops who dare to knock on their door for a house search to find the terrorists because false flag - pry my gun from my cold dead hand.....
Either that or a bunch of chickenshits who are all talk... :D
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 23, 2013, 02:34:49 pm
On a semi related note, I've been told that in Arizona it's legal to kill a Mexican you see climbing a fence. I honestly don't know whether or not to believe it. Granted it came from a guy who's mom thinks Obama is going to ban tampons.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Distind on April 23, 2013, 02:49:09 pm
On a semi related note, I've been told that in Arizona it's legal to kill a Mexican you see climbing a fence. I honestly don't know whether or not to believe it. Granted it came from a guy who's mom thinks Obama is going to ban tampons.
I really doubt that. They might think it is though.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: chitoryu12 on April 23, 2013, 03:25:58 pm
On a semi related note, I've been told that in Arizona it's legal to kill a Mexican you see climbing a fence. I honestly don't know whether or not to believe it. Granted it came from a guy who's mom thinks Obama is going to ban tampons.
I really doubt that. They might think it is though.

Doing some digging and I can't find any laws about that. There's been plenty of killings, both from vigilantes and from idiotic cops and Border Patrol who have shot Mexicans just for throwing rocks at them.

It helps that Arizona also tried (or is trying) to bully schools into eliminating the Mexican-American Studies Department (http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/10/21/31242.htm) for "advocating the overthrow of the US government."

I'm glad this attack didn't happen in Arizona. Arpaio would have probably enacted a coup and locked the state down into something out of Escape From LA.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Distind on April 23, 2013, 03:30:46 pm
It helps that Arizona also tried (or is trying) to bully schools into eliminating the Mexican-American Studies Department (http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/10/21/31242.htm) for "advocating the overthrow of the US government."
Wheee tangents!

Anyway, heard a while back, the first guy who got canned over that busniess is apparently in demand to give talks and consultation about forming such programs in the rest of the country. Funny how that works. Sucks for everyone else who gets hit though.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: chitoryu12 on April 23, 2013, 03:36:21 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/23/boston-bombing-suspects-motivation-afghanistan-iraq_n_3140547.html?ncid=webmail1

Apparently the motivation was the American bullshit in the Middle East.

Can't say I'm surprised.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Sleepy on April 23, 2013, 04:15:14 pm
Man, the carjacking victim has balls. This talks about his escape.

http://gma.yahoo.com/alleged-bombers-carjack-victim-barely-escaped-grab-161941429--abc-news-topstories.html (http://gma.yahoo.com/alleged-bombers-carjack-victim-barely-escaped-grab-161941429--abc-news-topstories.html)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: chitoryu12 on April 23, 2013, 04:36:53 pm
"When they stopped for gas, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev went inside the Shell station to buy snacks while Tamerlan Tsarnaev pumped gas, police said."

They had a kidnapping victim in the car, unrestrained, while this was going on. They had just robbed a 7-11 and murdered a police officer beforehand.

This might be the worst escape plan I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Sleepy on April 23, 2013, 05:27:48 pm
Yeah, these guys don't appear to be the brightest crayons in the box. When I heard the initial reports about the bombings, I feared that the person(s) behind it would be clever enough to execute their plan and escape unseen or unnoticed. Quite the opposite occurred. It's like they did everything they could to draw attention.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 23, 2013, 05:31:51 pm
I dunno about you but I'm grateful their plan fell apart after the bombing. I just wish they were just as incompetent before so that the bombing didn't happen.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: chitoryu12 on April 23, 2013, 05:53:08 pm
One thing I forgot to mention in that previous post was that they had already been identified in photos that were publicly distributed to spread awareness and help in catching them. They didn't even leave the area where people were actively looking for them, and went around like business as usual without seemingly any attempt to disguise themselves.

I had mentioned beforehand in another thread the composition of the bomb, and how it didn't take any real skill to manufacture even if you had to make the black powder yourself. It seems like the pair had just enough brain power between them to make a very simple pair of fragmentation bombs (probably using plans and recipes from the internet) and drop a bomb bag in the crowd, then leave. It doesn't even look like they considered leaving the CITY, let alone the state.

And really, they're actually not that much different from the "bigger" terrorists who get training. The trained guys can make bigger bombs and some are fanatical enough to sacrifice themselves in the explosion, but they still don't tend to be very bright. The attempted Times Square bomber, for instance, was trained by Pakistani terrorists and made a relatively complex car bomb made up up four different bombs (black powder, fertilizer, firecrackers, and gasoline) wired up into one massive contraption....which sputtered and failed to go off and used the wrong kind of fertilizer for a bomb anyway. He also forgot to remove all the VIN numbers from the bomb car and locked his escape car keys with the bomb, which let it be traced to him because he also paid for the car under his own identity. He also got a prepaid cell phone to try and cover his tracks, but he made calls to a Pakistani-based number connected to him. And he sent an email from his own email address to answer the Craigslist ad for the escape car.

The terrorists who actually make a decent plan and succeed in their goals are relatively few and far between compared to the people who screw up half the important steps and forget to hide their identity. Terrorism is based in ideology rather than competence.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: DiscoBerry on April 23, 2013, 06:16:07 pm
One thing I forgot to mention in that previous post was that they had already been identified in photos that were publicly distributed to spread awareness and help in catching them. They didn't even leave the area where people were actively looking for them, and went around like business as usual without seemingly any attempt to disguise themselves.

I had mentioned beforehand in another thread the composition of the bomb, and how it didn't take any real skill to manufacture even if you had to make the black powder yourself. It seems like the pair had just enough brain power between them to make a very simple pair of fragmentation bombs (probably using plans and recipes from the internet) and drop a bomb bag in the crowd, then leave. It doesn't even look like they considered leaving the CITY, let alone the state.

And really, they're actually not that much different from the "bigger" terrorists who get training. The trained guys can make bigger bombs and some are fanatical enough to sacrifice themselves in the explosion, but they still don't tend to be very bright. The attempted Times Square bomber, for instance, was trained by Pakistani terrorists and made a relatively complex car bomb made up up four different bombs (black powder, fertilizer, firecrackers, and gasoline) wired up into one massive contraption....which sputtered and failed to go off and used the wrong kind of fertilizer for a bomb anyway. He also forgot to remove all the VIN numbers from the bomb car and locked his escape car keys with the bomb, which let it be traced to him because he also paid for the car under his own identity. He also got a prepaid cell phone to try and cover his tracks, but he made calls to a Pakistani-based number connected to him. And he sent an email from his own email address to answer the Craigslist ad for the escape car.

The terrorists who actually make a decent plan and succeed in their goals are relatively few and far between compared to the people who screw up half the important steps and forget to hide their identity. Terrorism is based in ideology rather than competence.

I am fairly sure that Al-Qaeda English language magazine that I posted here had an article somewhere in there on how to make gunpowder bombs.   
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: DiscoBerry on April 23, 2013, 06:33:22 pm
Apparently me and Gawker came to the same conclusion.  http://gawker.com/heres-the-jihadist-magazine-that-taught-the-boston-bom-478605581 (http://gawker.com/heres-the-jihadist-magazine-that-taught-the-boston-bom-478605581)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: KZN02 on April 23, 2013, 08:07:45 pm
Looks like there may be infowar influence (http://gawker.com/accused-marathon-bomber-influenced-by-infowars-478641825)

Cue conspiracy theory "they're trying to suppress us or make us look bad".

Anyways, the carjacking victim was Chinese, and one of the bombing victims was Chinese. I wonder how he's feeling about that?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on April 23, 2013, 08:09:26 pm
Looks like there may be infowar influence (http://gawker.com/accused-marathon-bomber-influenced-by-infowars-478641825)

Cue conspiracy theory "they're trying to suppress us or make us look bad".

I can't wait to see how fast Alex Jones tries to backpedal away from the evidence.

Oh, wait, he's already doing it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osOHn9ttbII
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: KZN02 on April 23, 2013, 10:59:27 pm
Turns out the suspects had unlicensed guns, but we don't know at the moment how they obtained them. Cue conspiracy theorists on gun control stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laYPIcO2VsI
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: DiscoBerry on April 23, 2013, 11:35:14 pm
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[GOP NH Lawmaker] Tremblay posted on Glenn Beck's Facebook wall last week, saying that the search for the suspects was going exactly as he'd suggested it would. She then goes on to suggest that the U.S. government planned to whole thing, but for what reason she does not specify. The message was posted Friday morning, before Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was arrested, for some context.

Just as you said would happen. Top Down, Bottom UP. The Boston Marathon was a Black Ops "terrorist" attack. One suspect killed, the other one will be too before they even have a chance to speak. Drones and now "terrorist" attacks by our own Government. Sad day, but a "wake up" to all of us. First there was a "suspect" then there wasnt. Infowars broke the story and they knew they had been "found out". 

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In her post, Tremblay also posted a link to a video of another radio host, Alex Jones, explaining why he believes the government is behind last week's attack.

http://gawker.com/gop-lawmaker-suggests-the-boston-marathon-bombing-was-a-478818340 (http://gawker.com/gop-lawmaker-suggests-the-boston-marathon-bombing-was-a-478818340)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: chitoryu12 on April 24, 2013, 12:10:11 am
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One suspect killed, the other one will be too before they even have a chance to speak.

Well, that's already wrong.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Askold on April 24, 2013, 12:41:03 am
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One suspect killed, the other one will be too before they even have a chance to speak.
Remember when I made that prediction as a joke? Turns out I'm pretty good at predicting how conspiratards think.


Well, that's already wrong.

Theoretically it is possible that he won't regain the ability to speak, so... I guess we'll have to wait and see. (Or can he speak already? I haven't seen any new development about him.)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: KZN02 on April 24, 2013, 01:14:41 am
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One suspect killed, the other one will be too before they even have a chance to speak.

Well, that's already wrong.
Wait, wasn't it reported the suspect is unable to speak, but is communicating via writing?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on April 24, 2013, 01:58:42 am
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One suspect killed, the other one will be too before they even have a chance to speak.

Well, that's already wrong.
Wait, wasn't it reported the suspect is unable to speak, but is communicating via writing?

Apparently at the hearing he simply nodded yes or no. I think the cause of injury was a gunshot wound to the neck, possibly self-inflicted.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Cerim Treascair on April 24, 2013, 02:51:05 am
that quote up there from a GOP senator... isn't that considered treason to imply that the same government you work for bombed civilians?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: chitoryu12 on April 24, 2013, 05:58:35 am
that quote up there from a GOP senator... isn't that considered treason to imply that the same government you work for bombed civilians?

It's not, mostly because we're NOT a fascist police state despite the claims by conspiritards. Despite all of their cries, they can't actually prove that anybody recently has been locked up or executed just for not liking the government publicly. They seem to have this belief that THEY are the only people who are somehow surviving the Hussein Obama SS purge despite regularly talking about how horrible he and his cronies are, and any stories they have of people who are "taken out by drone strikes on American soil" or "silenced by the government" are second-hand stories that nobody can provide a source for, or random people who are killed in accidents, murdered by criminals, or shot/arrested by police after threatening their neighbors with a machete.

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Wait, wasn't it reported the suspect is unable to speak, but is communicating via writing?

As Eva said, he has what looks to be a botched suicide attempt that's left him unable to speak. He communicated in writing to the police, which is how he explained that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were his main motivation.

By the way, I did some more reading on Wikipedia to see if there was more info. Apparently the big brother has been linked to a September 11, 2011 triple homicide in Waltham, Massachusetts. Three Jewish men with their throats slit, $5000 and marijuana left covering their bodies.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Yla on April 24, 2013, 06:50:32 am
Apparently me and Gawker came to the same conclusion.  http://gawker.com/heres-the-jihadist-magazine-that-taught-the-boston-bom-478605581 (http://gawker.com/heres-the-jihadist-magazine-that-taught-the-boston-bom-478605581)
The 'safety precautions' in the bomb-making article are hilarious.
1. Pray.
2. Don't leave fingerprints.
3. Actually be careful to not blow yourself up.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: erictheblue on April 24, 2013, 07:28:49 am
Apparently at the hearing he simply nodded yes or no. I think the cause of injury was a gunshot wound to the neck, possibly self-inflicted.

Rachel Maddow read part of the transcript of his First Appearance Monday night on her show. Apparently he managed to croak out a "No" at one point, although it was very rough, since the judge replied "I interpret that you said 'no.'"
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: chitoryu12 on April 24, 2013, 07:30:43 am
Apparently me and Gawker came to the same conclusion.  http://gawker.com/heres-the-jihadist-magazine-that-taught-the-boston-bom-478605581 (http://gawker.com/heres-the-jihadist-magazine-that-taught-the-boston-bom-478605581)
The 'safety precautions' in the bomb-making article are hilarious.
1. Pray.
2. Don't leave fingerprints.
3. Actually be careful to not blow yourself up.

The fingerprints bit won't even be necessary if the bomb goes off; prints are hard for people to cleanly get off of objects when they HAVEN'T exploded. You'd only be at a risk of getting caught by fingerprints if you mucked up and nothing exploded.

The Times Square bomber didn't even get ID'd because of his prints. He got ID'd because he bought both the bomb car and his getaway vehicle under his real email address and met the sellers in person, left the getaway car keys in the bomb car, forgot to erase one of the VIN numbers on the bomb car, and used a prepaid cell phone to call a phone number already connected to himself back in Pakistan. Like I said, terrorism is based around ideology rather than competence. Wannabe martyrs are lucky to get more than a bare minimum of training and they still don't make working bombs all the time (or the bombs work, but they accidentally detonate them early or even in the training camp/hideout).
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: cheese007 on April 24, 2013, 03:45:00 pm
So apparently there is a (fake) story going around a "Coexist" sticker on the car hijacked by the bomber:
http://jalopnik.com/the-coexist-sticker-on-boston-bomber-carjacked-car-is-478736660
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: nickiknack on April 24, 2013, 10:30:37 pm
On the conspiratard front, I had to try my best not to laugh at this conversation I overheard at the mall while waiting for the bus. Some guy was talking about how Boston was setup in order to pass CISPA, then he moved onto the 9-11 truther crap, about how news channels were only allowed to take footage from certain angles, and how the economy isn't being fixed because they want to have a one currency for Canada, the US, and Mexico.
Fun times folks...
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 24, 2013, 10:42:00 pm
Apparently me and Gawker came to the same conclusion.  http://gawker.com/heres-the-jihadist-magazine-that-taught-the-boston-bom-478605581 (http://gawker.com/heres-the-jihadist-magazine-that-taught-the-boston-bom-478605581)
The 'safety precautions' in the bomb-making article are hilarious.
1. Pray.
2. Don't leave fingerprints.
3. Actually be careful to not blow yourself up.
Well shit, the "be careful" part was relegated to #3. There's your problem.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 24, 2013, 10:43:48 pm
On the conspiratard front, I had to try my best not to laugh at this conversation I overheard at the mall while waiting for the bus. Some guy was talking about how Boston was setup in order to pass CISPA, then he moved onto the 9-11 truther crap, about how news channels were only allowed to take footage from certain angles, and how the economy isn't being fixed because they want to have a one currency for Canada, the US, and Mexico.
Fun times folks...
The Boston bombing was done to force us all to eat broccoli...or whatever, fuck you. :P
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: syaoranvee on April 24, 2013, 11:35:34 pm
about how Boston was setup in order to pass CISPA,

While I don't think Boston was a setup for CISPA, I do believe it's rather common for controversial laws or announcements to be done during an event like this as it automatically makes them secondary news and not get as much attention.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 25, 2013, 12:16:55 am
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7377257472/hF75705C5/)

Apparently this is a thing.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Scotsgit on April 25, 2013, 12:24:40 am
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7377257472/hF75705C5/)

Apparently this is a thing.

Let him go free?  Certainly.  About 30,000 feet above the North Atlantic sounds fine to me.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 25, 2013, 12:28:06 am
Just look at him! He's cute! And he has, you know, whiteish skin!
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Askold on April 25, 2013, 12:35:33 am
Is that some /b/ class joke or are there people who think he is innocent?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Sleepy on April 25, 2013, 12:42:09 am
It looks like something a moronic teenager started because they think he's cute.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: niam2023 on April 25, 2013, 12:58:11 am
...Its like I'm looking at a pretty boy version of Yuno Gasai.

Daaw, but URGH! Daaw, but yeesh!

And he's even doing a pouting face in the pic.

I want to keep him.

In my basement.

FOREVER
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Radiation on April 25, 2013, 01:06:54 am
Just look at him! He's cute! And he has, you know, whiteish skin!

He actually looks more like he's Italian, Greek or Romanian instead of Chechen. Honestly he does look cute and it's too bad that he got wrapped up in this stuff.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 25, 2013, 01:08:23 am
Is that some /b/ class joke or are there people who think he is innocent?
It looks like something a moronic teenager started because they think he's cute.

It's an entire campaign.  (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-kanalley/free-jahar-social-media-dzhokhar-tsarnaev_b_3134712.html)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: ironbite on April 25, 2013, 01:11:52 am
This isn't new.  Death row murderers get groupies.  I'm talking super-psychopaths who'd peel the skin off the face of the chick they're fucking while fucking them just for kicks get all kinds of letters from fangirls.

Ironbite-it...amazes me.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: niam2023 on April 25, 2013, 01:20:25 am
That groupie thing sounds outlandish, rather uncanny...

My dad says Dzhokhar's old brother probably manipulated him into going through with it.

If this campaign succeeds, I will have him. He will be MY little brother. ONLY. MINE. Muahahaha!

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Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: KZN02 on April 25, 2013, 03:28:11 am
What draws women to these sorts of people? Do they think they can help them or something?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Distind on April 25, 2013, 06:50:23 am
Apparently some people missed the part where these guys shot and killed a cop, then threw bombs at the police while being chased only to wind up getting caught after one failed to successfully kill himself. They say they're innocent. I say throwing bombs at cops quickly removes any innocence you may have claimed. Like two bombs, tops, after that you aren't innocent.
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Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: chitoryu12 on April 25, 2013, 07:38:27 am
What draws women to these sorts of people? Do they think they can help them or something?

I think it's related to the "Girls like bad boys" thing, where they want someone apparently rebellious against society. The person being attractive tends to help. And then they have to try and find a way to justify liking someone who's on death row or facing life in prison for domestic terrorism or murdering cops at a traffic stop or whatnot, so they start to talk about how they're REALLY innocent of it all because they don't want to have to justify being attracted to murderers.

Though I've seen with the James Holmes fangirls that some of them might be legitimately whacko and either don't care or find something heroic in his murders.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Sleepy on April 25, 2013, 10:56:49 am
I'm sure some of the people have a "fuck da police" attitude and therefore support the shooting/bombing during their escape. Apparently such heroism overrides the bombs they used to kill and injure people.

There are probably younger girls who see him as the dark, misunderstood type who's just trying to find his way through life. I know teenage years can suck ass, but that kinda sorta doesn't justify murder.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Barbarella on April 25, 2013, 11:10:55 am
...Its like I'm looking at a pretty boy version of Yuno Gasai.

Daaw, but URGH! Daaw, but yeesh!

And he's even doing a pouting face in the pic.

I want to keep him.

In my basement.

FOREVER


I know the horrible feeling. I hate it. He did these horrific, disgusting things but DAMN,,,HE'S TOO CUTE!

I dub this phenonenon, "Stupid-Sexy Satan"

The the equivalent to "Stupid Sexy Flanders", except it involves evil nasty people.

Here's an explanation for "Stupid Sexy Flanders": http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StupidSexyFlanders

Well, I propose "Stupid Sexy Satan", in which a loathsome person, whom you hate or fear is so physically attractive that you start feeling other feelings looking at them.

I've definitely had this happen to me. It happened with Martin Bryant (my country never covered that one but I noticed him on the web. It wasn't a 'crazy Martin' pic but a 'cute Martin'), it happened with the initial GQ photo shoot-like pics of Anders Brevik (longish lair, youthful, pretty, nice stylish preppy outfit) and now...it's that Boston Bomber kid, who looks like the results of a Star Trek transporter mishap involving Syd Barrett & Louis Garrell (a french actor).

Now, I know that Satan, compared to Bible God is small potatoes & may actually be an unjustly slandered figure. However, Satan is considered "The Big Big Bad" in our world & alliteration is cool.

That said, I think these groupies are batzoid insane! *BLECCH*!
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 25, 2013, 11:51:12 am
It certainly isn't new for people to actually fall in love with murderers. I forget the name of it hang on I just saw it like yesterday...

It's like a type of stockholm syndrome.

Anyways here's a huge article on it (http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/criminal_mind/psychology/s_k_groupies/index.html). It's definitely nothing new.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Scotsgit on April 25, 2013, 12:34:29 pm
This isn't new.  Death row murderers get groupies.  I'm talking super-psychopaths who'd peel the skin off the face of the chick they're fucking while fucking them just for kicks get all kinds of letters from fangirls.

Ironbite-it...amazes me.

Ibby, apparently it's a case of "You don't know him like I do" and "He really is a sweet guy".  Ugh.  I've worked with two murderers (long story) and they were nice enough guys, but I always kept an eye on them and never let my guard down.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 25, 2013, 02:45:22 pm
This isn't new.  Death row murderers get groupies.  I'm talking super-psychopaths who'd peel the skin off the face of the chick they're fucking while fucking them just for kicks get all kinds of letters from fangirls.

Ironbite-it...amazes me.

Ibby, apparently it's a case of "You don't know him like I do" and "He really is a sweet guy".  Ugh.  I've worked with two murderers (long story) and they were nice enough guys, but I always kept an eye on them and never let my guard down.

I spent six months living in a room next to the room of a guy who killed his mom. He was a pretty nice, bu in a weird way, and would throw tantrums occaisionally(he was 15 at this time). I think I was told he killed his mom when he was nine or ten years old. Of course I was never officially told this, nor was any of the other kids there, but the story got around, including from the guy himself. Also, I'm probably not supposed to talk about it, but then again, how do I talk about something I don't know?

I also had a small die cast model of an F-117 thrown 60 feet or so and nearly imbed itself in the wall next to my head while I was laying on my bed reading and watching the 11 year old across in his room on the opposite side of the main room throw a tantrum and, obviously, his toys. Imagine how a small metal F-117 flies when grabbed by one wing and thrown on its side. It was the wing that almost jammed itself into the wall I was leaning against. It couldn't have been more than 5 inches from my head.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: TheUnknown on April 25, 2013, 03:34:47 pm
...Its like I'm looking at a pretty boy version of Yuno Gasai.

Daaw, but URGH! Daaw, but yeesh!

And he's even doing a pouting face in the pic.

I want to keep him.

In my basement.

FOREVER


I know the horrible feeling. I hate it. He did these horrific, disgusting things but DAMN,,,HE'S TOO CUTE!

I dub this phenonenon, "Stupid-Sexy Satan"

The the equivalent to "Stupid Sexy Flanders", except it involves evil nasty people.

Here's an explanation for "Stupid Sexy Flanders": http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StupidSexyFlanders

Well, I propose "Stupid Sexy Satan", in which a loathsome person, whom you hate or fear is so physically attractive that you start feeling other feelings looking at them.

I've definitely had this happen to me. It happened with Martin Bryant (my country never covered that one but I noticed him on the web. It wasn't a 'crazy Martin' pic but a 'cute Martin'), it happened with the initial GQ photo shoot-like pics of Anders Brevik (longish lair, youthful, pretty, nice stylish preppy outfit) and now...it's that Boston Bomber kid, who looks like the results of a Star Trek transporter mishap involving Syd Barrett & Louis Garrell (a french actor).

Now, I know that Satan, compared to Bible God is small potatoes & may actually be an unjustly slandered figure. However, Satan is considered "The Big Big Bad" in our world & alliteration is cool.

That said, I think these groupies are batzoid insane! *BLECCH*!

I think the trope you're looking for is Draco In Leather Pants (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DracoInLeatherPants).  This is when a cool or attractive villainous character has their actions, behavior, and flaws downplayed either outright or through the use of a sympathetic or tragic backstory.  In this case, they see this kid (extra points) who could be considered attractive or cute, and in learning about the background of these boys, immediately shift blame to the older brother; it was the brother's idea, he was the extremist, he was the angry one, he had the problems, and he brainwashed this poor sweet boy into doing these things.  Terrorism isn't part of the real Jahar, and now that his brother is gone, he can go back to how he was and won't want to hurt anyone again!  We can changehelp him!
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Sleepy on April 25, 2013, 03:44:27 pm
Looks like the bombers wanted to do more damage.

http://news.yahoo.com/u-had-more-tips-boston-suspect-congress-asks-000005101.html (http://news.yahoo.com/u-had-more-tips-boston-suspect-congress-asks-000005101.html)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Distind on April 25, 2013, 04:50:57 pm
This isn't new.  Death row murderers get groupies.  I'm talking super-psychopaths who'd peel the skin off the face of the chick they're fucking while fucking them just for kicks get all kinds of letters from fangirls.

Ironbite-it...amazes me.

Ibby, apparently it's a case of "You don't know him like I do" and "He really is a sweet guy".  Ugh.  I've worked with two murderers (long story) and they were nice enough guys, but I always kept an eye on them and never let my guard down.

Like Freak out and stab one guy murders or the targeted variety? The former are a tad less surprising, but I'm not sure the rules let you get out of this without the story.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Scotsgit on April 25, 2013, 05:30:03 pm
This isn't new.  Death row murderers get groupies.  I'm talking super-psychopaths who'd peel the skin off the face of the chick they're fucking while fucking them just for kicks get all kinds of letters from fangirls.

Ironbite-it...amazes me.

Ibby, apparently it's a case of "You don't know him like I do" and "He really is a sweet guy".  Ugh.  I've worked with two murderers (long story) and they were nice enough guys, but I always kept an eye on them and never let my guard down.

Like Freak out and stab one guy murders or the targeted variety? The former are a tad less surprising, but I'm not sure the rules let you get out of this without the story.

As in killed his wife and his father-in-law with a shotgun.

It was when I was working as a Lab Technician, we worked with tropical fish and one of the warders at a prison liked fish and had set up a tropical fish unit there, we used to have them come through once a month to work with us, occassionally one or two of us had to go to the prison and that's where I met them.  Nice enough guys in their way, although the one who killed his wife and father-in-law ended up back in prison after he was released to serve out his whole sentence (he'd got early release because of the work he did).  However, I never trusted them further than I could throw them.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: The Illusive Man on April 25, 2013, 09:34:09 pm
To the surprise of no one Rupert Murdoch is defending the NY Post for being the symbol of untrue reporting. (https://twitter.com/rupertmurdoch/status/325603844383969280)

Don't worry folks, he will withdraw this photo from print media that had been circulated.
(http://gothamist.com/attachments/nyc_arts_john/041813track.jpg)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Radiation on April 25, 2013, 10:10:25 pm
To the surprise of no one Rupert Murdoch is defending the NY Post for being the symbol of untrue reporting. (https://twitter.com/rupertmurdoch/status/325603844383969280)

Don't worry folks, he will withdraw this photo from print media that had been circulated.
(http://gothamist.com/attachments/nyc_arts_john/041813track.jpg)

and who is that exactly?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: The Illusive Man on April 25, 2013, 10:40:13 pm
To the surprise of no one Rupert Murdoch is defending the NY Post for being the symbol of untrue reporting. (https://twitter.com/rupertmurdoch/status/325603844383969280)

Don't worry folks, he will withdraw this photo from print media that had been circulated.
(http://gothamist.com/attachments/nyc_arts_john/041813track.jpg)

and who is that exactly?
The guy in the picture is one of the people incorrectly fingered as the Boston Bomber by the NY Post.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on April 25, 2013, 10:57:03 pm
To the surprise of no one Rupert Murdoch is defending the NY Post for being the symbol of untrue reporting. (https://twitter.com/rupertmurdoch/status/325603844383969280)

Don't worry folks, he will withdraw this photo from print media that had been circulated.
(http://gothamist.com/attachments/nyc_arts_john/041813track.jpg)

and who is that exactly?
The guy in the picture is one of the people incorrectly fingered as the Boston Bomber by the NY Post.

Holy shit, someone with skin darker than a 2 on the skin tone scale! SHUT DOWN FUCKING EVERYTHING!
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Barbarella on April 25, 2013, 10:59:08 pm
...Its like I'm looking at a pretty boy version of Yuno Gasai.

Daaw, but URGH! Daaw, but yeesh!

And he's even doing a pouting face in the pic.

I want to keep him.

In my basement.

FOREVER


I know the horrible feeling. I hate it. He did these horrific, disgusting things but DAMN,,,HE'S TOO CUTE!

I dub this phenonenon, "Stupid-Sexy Satan"

The the equivalent to "Stupid Sexy Flanders", except it involves evil nasty people.

Here's an explanation for "Stupid Sexy Flanders": http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StupidSexyFlanders

Well, I propose "Stupid Sexy Satan", in which a loathsome person, whom you hate or fear is so physically attractive that you start feeling other feelings looking at them.

I've definitely had this happen to me. It happened with Martin Bryant (my country never covered that one but I noticed him on the web. It wasn't a 'crazy Martin' pic but a 'cute Martin'), it happened with the initial GQ photo shoot-like pics of Anders Brevik (longish lair, youthful, pretty, nice stylish preppy outfit) and now...it's that Boston Bomber kid, who looks like the results of a Star Trek transporter mishap involving Syd Barrett & Louis Garrell (a french actor).

Now, I know that Satan, compared to Bible God is small potatoes & may actually be an unjustly slandered figure. However, Satan is considered "The Big Big Bad" in our world & alliteration is cool.

That said, I think these groupies are batzoid insane! *BLECCH*!

I think the trope you're looking for is Draco In Leather Pants (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DracoInLeatherPants).  This is when a cool or attractive villainous character has their actions, behavior, and flaws downplayed either outright or through the use of a sympathetic or tragic backstory.  In this case, they see this kid (extra points) who could be considered attractive or cute, and in learning about the background of these boys, immediately shift blame to the older brother; it was the brother's idea, he was the extremist, he was the angry one, he had the problems, and he brainwashed this poor sweet boy into doing these things.  Terrorism isn't part of the real Jahar, and now that his brother is gone, he can go back to how he was and won't want to hurt anyone again!  We can changehelp him!

Well, "Stupid Sexy Satan" is like "Draco in Leather Pants" except you genuinely feel really guilty & wrong about feeling that way. "Draco In Leather Pants" is like seeing an evil but physically attractive person as a super hottie but not feeling guilty about it.
In "Stupid Sexy Flanders", Homer was getting those feeling over Ned Flanders in that tight ski gettup. Being a heterosexual with a family and a guy who generally finds Ned loathsome, it just seemed so "wrong" for him.

"Stupid Sexy Satan" is "Stupid Sexy Flanders" combined with "Draco In Leather Pants".

"Draco In Leather Pants" is when you're sympathetic to the villain or have no guilt over being attracted to them whereas "Stupid Sexy Satan" is when you are NOT sympathetic to the villain & think they're pond scum.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: DiscoBerry on April 26, 2013, 06:39:14 pm
Guy tells off "reporter" from InfoWars

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f01_1366974826 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f01_1366974826)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Radiation on April 26, 2013, 07:35:27 pm
Loved the guy in the suit in the background. His facial expressions are priceless.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: chitoryu12 on April 26, 2013, 07:37:52 pm
"Yeah, I just said it. Motherfucker."

This guy is perfect.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: niam2023 on April 26, 2013, 09:23:29 pm
...Stupid sexy Jahar...stop making your prison photos look like you're modelling. Stop trying to make me bisexual, you...you terrorist scum, you!

I can see the Image Macros now;

Convert to Islam...

And you get some of this.

Well, the infowars thing was...fun. The facial expressions were like something out of an anime.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Cerim Treascair on April 27, 2013, 03:58:33 am
Guy tells off "reporter" from InfoWars

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f01_1366974826 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f01_1366974826)

This is AWESOME!
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Søren on April 27, 2013, 06:27:58 am
Guy tells off "reporter" from InfoWars

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f01_1366974826 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f01_1366974826)

"Go drink a dick"

I like how he bitches about the reporters maturity and then says what. What an asshat
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Cerim Treascair on April 27, 2013, 12:25:28 pm
Arguably, Hof, if Alex Jones, Glenn Beck or any of their cronies showed up in my area after a tragedy and claimed that the federal government was behind it, I'd probably have the same damn reaction.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: chitoryu12 on April 27, 2013, 01:20:33 pm
Arguably, Hof, if Alex Jones, Glenn Beck or any of their cronies showed up in my area after a tragedy and claimed that the federal government was behind it, I'd probably have the same damn reaction.

Frankly, anyone who tries to use the death and mutilation of innocent people as a way to advance their political agenda is lucky not to get beaten down physically. Especially if they show up where it occurred to do it.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: mellenORL on April 27, 2013, 03:10:54 pm
Roger Nicholson - you're my hero of the day. Like others said before, if that AJ "news"douche showed up spouting shit after a tragedy in my 'hood, I'd be mouthing off and trying to get him to take a swing at me too. Nicholson was outraged and clearly hungered for a chance to pound some shame into that propagandizing tool.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Barbarella on April 27, 2013, 09:24:22 pm
...Stupid sexy Jahar...stop making your prison photos look like you're modelling. Stop trying to make me bisexual, you...you terrorist scum, you!

I can see the Image Macros now;

Convert to Islam...

And you get some of this.

Well, the infowars thing was...fun. The facial expressions were like something out of an anime.

I wonder if female Islamofundie nuts are now dreaming of seeing 70 cute, bishounen, fuzzy, fresh-faced little Jahars in the hereafter when they commit a suicide bombing?
(I know that that alleged '70 Virgins' thing apparently applies just to guys but I nonetheless wonder....)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: chitoryu12 on April 28, 2013, 12:54:51 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/27/russia-wiretap-bombing-suspect_n_3171102.html?1367154216&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmaing12%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D305203

There was some initial controversy over the revelation that the Tsarnaev mother was also on the government watch list. Turns out Russia had wiretapped the family back in 2011 and there were some vague suggestions of Tamerlan engaging in a jihad. Combine that with the uncle saying that the mother had a "big-time influence" on him becoming more of a religious fundamentalist and her cries that her boys were framed, and I'm starting to think that she knew more about the bombing than she's letting on.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Barbarella on April 28, 2013, 06:54:22 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/27/russia-wiretap-bombing-suspect_n_3171102.html?1367154216&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmaing12%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D305203

There was some initial controversy over the revelation that the Tsarnaev mother was also on the government watch list. Turns out Russia had wiretapped the family back in 2011 and there were some vague suggestions of Tamerlan engaging in a jihad. Combine that with the uncle saying that the mother had a "big-time influence" on him becoming more of a religious fundamentalist and her cries that her boys were framed, and I'm starting to think that she knew more about the bombing than she's letting on.

Mom of the Year, ladies & gentlemen! :P

...Stupid sexy Jahar...stop making your prison photos look like you're modelling. Stop trying to make me bisexual, you...you terrorist scum, you!

I can see the Image Macros now;

Convert to Islam...

And you get some of this.

Well, the infowars thing was...fun. The facial expressions were like something out of an anime.

I agree about that guy in the background. I could watch him all day.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: The Illusive Man on April 30, 2013, 08:00:58 pm
Uh oh here comes an attack on food stamps.

Quote
The Tsarnaev family, including the suspected terrorists and their parents, benefited from more than $100,000 in taxpayer-funded assistance — a bonanza ranging from cash and food stamps to Section 8 housing from 2002 to 2012, the Herald has learned.

“The breadth of the benefits the family was receiving was stunning,” said a person with knowledge of documents handed over to a legislative committee today. (http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/04/tsarnaev_family_received_100g_in_benefits)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Her3tiK on April 30, 2013, 08:08:09 pm
Guy tells off "reporter" from InfoWars

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f01_1366974826 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f01_1366974826)

This is AWESOME!
I think I just turned gay. Holy shit.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: mellenORL on April 30, 2013, 08:30:30 pm
Uh oh here comes an attack on food stamps.

Quote
The Tsarnaev family, including the suspected terrorists and their parents, benefited from more than $100,000 in taxpayer-funded assistance — a bonanza ranging from cash and food stamps to Section 8 housing from 2002 to 2012, the Herald has learned.

“The breadth of the benefits the family was receiving was stunning,” said a person with knowledge of documents handed over to a legislative committee today. (http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/04/tsarnaev_family_received_100g_in_benefits)

What's so annoying about this is that the tea hats will freak...at the Tsnaraev's raking in a cool average of $8,333.00 per year...for a family of six, during the majority of that time frame. Wow. I feel so dirty that maybe 30 cents of my federal taxes went to two of these poverty level scum buckets. ::) Deport all furiners and welfare is terrorism!
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 30, 2013, 11:17:06 pm
And now there's a 'breaking story' about Tamerlan getting college aid. (http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/herald_bulldog/2013/04/tamerlan_tsarnaev_given_5566_in_college_aid)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on April 30, 2013, 11:24:37 pm
And now there's a 'breaking story' about Tamerlan getting college aid. (http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/herald_bulldog/2013/04/tamerlan_tsarnaev_given_5566_in_college_aid)


"Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev was awarded $5,566 in educational aid to attended"

Did they even run spellcheck on this shit before they let it spew?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 30, 2013, 11:31:45 pm
And now there's a 'breaking story' about Tamerlan getting college aid. (http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/herald_bulldog/2013/04/tamerlan_tsarnaev_given_5566_in_college_aid)


"Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev was awarded $5,566 in educational aid to attended"

Did they even run spellcheck on this shit before they let it spew?

That's for losers~
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Barbarella on May 01, 2013, 12:13:13 am
Another "Hitler Ate Sugar" from the TEAliban. Why am I not surprised?

These dorks are really reaching. Badmouthing public assistance due to the idea that one's tax money MAY just support some random evildoer! So stupid!

I loathe TEAhadis!
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Sleepy on May 01, 2013, 12:26:54 am
Were officials supposed to magically predict that this would happen and deny him financial aid? If his family's income is in a certain bracket, then he's going to receive the money. I don't know how the fuck people can be mad about that.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: mellenORL on May 01, 2013, 12:34:40 am
A Jones whack attack in 3...2...1...
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Distind on May 01, 2013, 11:30:30 am
Uh oh here comes an attack on food stamps.

Quote
The Tsarnaev family, including the suspected terrorists and their parents, benefited from more than $100,000 in taxpayer-funded assistance — a bonanza ranging from cash and food stamps to Section 8 housing from 2002 to 2012, the Herald has learned.

“The breadth of the benefits the family was receiving was stunning,” said a person with knowledge of documents handed over to a legislative committee today. (http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/04/tsarnaev_family_received_100g_in_benefits)

10k a year in assistance? To a first generation immigrant family? Look at me, I'm so very amazed. Wonder how much of that is covered just by the housing.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: KZN02 on May 11, 2013, 11:14:22 pm
Looks like it doesn't end here: Link (http://now.msn.com/tsarnaev-brothers-suspects-in-2011-murders/?ocid=fbmsn)
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: chitoryu12 on May 11, 2013, 11:25:58 pm
Looks like it doesn't end here: Link (http://now.msn.com/tsarnaev-brothers-suspects-in-2011-murders/?ocid=fbmsn)

Yeah, posted a thing about that a while back (might have been this thread, might have been the other one on it). It was suggested that the suspects knew the victims, making it look like Tamerlan decided to stab some Jews to death for being too Jewish around him.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Barbarella on May 12, 2013, 02:27:17 am
Y'know, I'm convinced that the Tsarnaev brothers were sociopaths. You have these folks talking about both guys like "They were such cool guys & I never thought they'd stoop to bombing & murder!". The older brother may have been the worse of the two but I think, now, that even little Jahar was not what he seemed. If both guys were involved in this triple-murder of guys that were apparently the older brother's BEST FRIENDS then that shows that they are not only Islamozealots but plain sociopaths.

A sociopath is a person incapable of feeling genuine love, empathy or guilt. Their brains are literally incapable of producing said emotions. You cannot treat nor can you cure them. They are all about selfishness & manipulation. They are master-chameleons, blending in with other people. Undetectable. They can feign emotions like love, kindness, friendship, etc. but there's usually an ulterior motive in everything.

Tamerlan would certainly be more obvious as a questionable person due to being a big, hot-tempered, aggressive lug but Jahar was described by everyone as this cute, sweet, fun-loving boy. However, considering what Jahar did, even if he was prompted or convinced by Tamerlan, one gets the impression that he wasn't all roses either.

I will just use sociopath as a synonym for psychopath. Most folks think of them as different things (sociopaths as milder or 'made' while psychopaths are worse or 'born')  but I'll just use sociopath as an umbrella term because psychopath has become a more informal epithet plus folks will lump such folks with other mentally ill people. Sociopath sounds more clinical & "official" whereas psychopath sounds like psychosis and inadvertently gives folks an association with other conditions like schizophrenia, bipolar, paranoia or whatever.

Sociopaths are basically, usually, otherwise fully sane & functional people who are missing the ability to feel the essential emotions that make humans "humane". They're basically, more or less..."evil".
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Søren on May 12, 2013, 03:45:38 am
Most killers are sociopaths, not all sociopaths are killers
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: ironbite on May 12, 2013, 03:49:51 am
See Hof and niam.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 31, 2013, 12:51:19 am
Al Qaeda is not taking responsibility but they are encouraging a whole slew of Tsarnaevs.

They recently talked about it in their English language online magazine.

http://www.kmbz.com/Al-Qaeda-Mag-Praises-Great-Tsarnaev-Brothers/16478278

I couldn't find any other links but it was on CNN while I was in the ER.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: niam2023 on June 01, 2013, 06:41:19 pm
I support the diagnosis by Spuki. Either they were swept up in religious fervor, which is getting more and more hard to believe, or they really do simply lack the ability to connect, emotionally and psychologically, to other human beings.

However, these two, unlike me, decided to throw their lives away in a show of fading, meaningless spite.

I, on the other hand, intend to do something...meaningful. I want to create, not destroy.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: MadCatTLX on June 02, 2013, 02:13:46 pm
Is that "Free Jahar" nonsense still going on? If so, why?
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 02, 2013, 02:51:51 pm
Is that "Free Jahar" nonsense still going on? If so, why?

He's a prettyboy who was apparently heavily influenced by his brother into terrorism. So people have a warped view of him as some innocent who was bullied into such crimes and deserves forgiveness and rehabilitation instead of punishment.

Or worse, they get so baffled by his pretty looks (he doesn't look like a stereotypical terrorist) that they honestly can't believe that this cute guy could ever mutilate dozens of people and think that he must have been set up, a fall guy.
Title: Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon
Post by: Søren on June 03, 2013, 08:32:20 pm
I clicked on the free jahar tag on tumblr, it was lovely.