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Bitcoin contains childporn
« on: March 20, 2018, 02:20:39 pm »
https://theoutline.com/post/3799/if-you-downloaded-the-bitcoin-blockchain-you-may-have-downloaded-child-porn?zd=4&zi=445i5vm2
As usual, this is good for Bitcoin.

Specically, some miners have been placing CP images in the blockchain. Whether they did this as a way to hide CP material or "ironically" as a joke doesn't really matter. The end result is that some BTC are now illegal to have on your computer and it's impossibly to know if the BTC you are about to buy is one of those. I'm sure some Bitcoin-fanboy will be here soon to explain why this is a good thing.

The end result is that people can end up in jail for owning Bitcoin. ...And of course the blockchains have also been discovered to contain viruses and it's only matter of time before someone hides malware there. Heck, it could even be that the use of Bitcoins will be banned completely in some countries.

Truly Bitcoin is a glorious new currency that will rid us of problems like, being able to walk into a store and know the approximate value of money in your wallet when you get to the cashier, not getting jailed and listed as sex offender because you got some money in exchange for goods or services and it contained child pornography, and of course no longer do we live in a world where we don't accidentally find out that the 12'000€ bill you just got contains a malware program and your antivirus program just destroyed it in self defense.
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Re: Bitcoin contains childporn
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2018, 04:29:26 pm »
Like most things open to everyone on the internet, dig an inch below the surface and lo, there be Pedobear, Pepe and the Nigerian Princes!

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Re: Bitcoin contains childporn
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2018, 10:51:32 pm »
https://theoutline.com/post/3799/if-you-downloaded-the-bitcoin-blockchain-you-may-have-downloaded-child-porn?zd=4&zi=445i5vm2
As usual, this is good for Bitcoin.

Specically, some miners have been placing CP images in the blockchain. Whether they did this as a way to hide CP material or "ironically" as a joke doesn't really matter. The end result is that some BTC are now illegal to have on your computer and it's impossibly to know if the BTC you are about to buy is one of those. I'm sure some Bitcoin-fanboy will be here soon to explain why this is a good thing.

The end result is that people can end up in jail for owning Bitcoin. ...And of course the blockchains have also been discovered to contain viruses and it's only matter of time before someone hides malware there. Heck, it could even be that the use of Bitcoins will be banned completely in some countries.

Truly Bitcoin is a glorious new currency that will rid us of problems like, being able to walk into a store and know the approximate value of money in your wallet when you get to the cashier, not getting jailed and listed as sex offender because you got some money in exchange for goods or services and it contained child pornography, and of course no longer do we live in a world where we don't accidentally find out that the 12'000€ bill you just got contains a malware program and your antivirus program just destroyed it in self defense.

So, from how I understand it:

It's not 'some bitcoins have CP and some don't'. It's 'If you download the blockchain to your computer, you have CP'. You can't mine bitcoins or verify transactions for yourself without the blockchain but you can hold bitcoin and spend them, depending on your client. (of course, if CP in the blockchain is illegal then bitcoin can't work, because it's necessary that someone do the mining, etc. it just won't necessarily send individual people who own bitcoin to jail)

I don't think someone can actually put malware in your computer even if you do download the blockchain. Like, you can put the software in there but it's not going to execute itself. The risk is using the blockchain to send instructions to a malicious app that's already there, I think.
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Re: Bitcoin contains childporn
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2018, 12:26:34 am »
As usual, this is good for Bitcoin.

Fellow r/Buttcoin reader, I presume?

Anywho, with the way blockchain tech works, it definitely is a case of if you have the blockchain, you have the CP that was put on it. And really, this is just a perfect demonstration of one of the MANY problems with cryptocurrencies. We have something that has potential use in preserving digital art and media since something uploaded to the blockchain is potentially immortal, but very easily ruined by a single person for shits and giggles.
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Re: Bitcoin contains childporn
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2018, 08:15:26 am »
I did discover that subreddit yesterday but that phrase has been used elsewhere to mock Bitcoin-fanatics and I've been using it for fun before as well.
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Re: Bitcoin contains childporn
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2018, 05:13:52 am »
I was thinking of getting into some cryptocurrencies possibly because it seems like interesting computery stuff.

Going to be avoiding bitcoin though because of the pedobear thing.

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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2018, 12:19:11 pm »
I was thinking of getting into some cryptocurrencies possibly because it seems like interesting computery stuff.

Going to be avoiding bitcoin though because of the pedobear thing.

I'm sure other cryptocurrencies will soon be as magnificent as Bitcoin.
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Re: Bitcoin contains childporn
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2018, 08:56:29 pm »
And by "magnificent," you mean that they'll all be worthless.
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Re: Bitcoin contains childporn
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2018, 09:31:23 pm »
And by "magnificent," you mean that they'll all be worthless.

Well, any cryptocurrency that is vulnerable to this sort of attack (and that's what this is) might as well already be worthless now that it's been proven to have been done with one of them.
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Re: Bitcoin contains childporn
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2018, 09:45:43 pm »
The tech behind it is cool, but as with any new tech, its got issues it needs to iron out.  Like 8 year-olds.
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Re: Bitcoin contains childporn
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2018, 11:31:01 pm »
I've heard speculation that this might be an attempt at sabotage. Of course, this speculation came from Bitcoin supporters, so I'm taking it with a grain of salt.
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Re: Bitcoin contains childporn
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2018, 03:41:08 am »
If this was intentional sabotage then it was very successful and revealed a massive weakness in crypto currencies.

Do note that Bitcoiners knew about this for years. They knew that BTC contained child pornography but they ignored it because they had invested far too much in this dream to care about what is ethically correct. ...Which is just one more reason not to touch BTC anymore.
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Re: Bitcoin contains childporn
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2018, 02:23:35 pm »
If this was intentional sabotage then it was very successful and revealed a massive weakness in crypto currencies.

Do note that Bitcoiners knew about this for years. They knew that BTC contained child pornography but they ignored it because they had invested far too much in this dream to care about what is ethically correct. ...Which is just one more reason not to touch BTC anymore.

I don't think it's ethically wrong to continue to use bitcoin knowing about this. It's legally dangerous (maybe, nobody has been arrested yet afaik) but it's not like using bitcoin creates child porn.
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Re: Bitcoin contains childporn
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2018, 02:54:43 pm »
If this was intentional sabotage then it was very successful and revealed a massive weakness in crypto currencies.

Do note that Bitcoiners knew about this for years. They knew that BTC contained child pornography but they ignored it because they had invested far too much in this dream to care about what is ethically correct. ...Which is just one more reason not to touch BTC anymore.

I don't think it's ethically wrong to continue to use bitcoin knowing about this. It's legally dangerous (maybe, nobody has been arrested yet afaik) but it's not like using bitcoin creates child porn.

I confess my ignorance of cryptocurrencies, but is there a way of extracting the "relevant" parts of the blockchain and storing them after one has "spent" the contaminated bitcoin? Because if so, then using bitcoin disseminates and spreads kiddie porn.
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Re: Bitcoin contains childporn
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2018, 04:01:29 pm »
If this was intentional sabotage then it was very successful and revealed a massive weakness in crypto currencies.

Do note that Bitcoiners knew about this for years. They knew that BTC contained child pornography but they ignored it because they had invested far too much in this dream to care about what is ethically correct. ...Which is just one more reason not to touch BTC anymore.

I don't think it's ethically wrong to continue to use bitcoin knowing about this. It's legally dangerous (maybe, nobody has been arrested yet afaik) but it's not like using bitcoin creates child porn.

I confess my ignorance of cryptocurrencies, but is there a way of extracting the "relevant" parts of the blockchain and storing them after one has "spent" the contaminated bitcoin? Because if so, then using bitcoin disseminates and spreads kiddie porn.


I'm not sure I understand your question. The blockchain is public; anyone with access to the internet can get it, and by extension the CP in it. Using bitcoin does not disseminate it more than it is already (barring a scenario where everyone stops using bitcoin, and so you can't access the blockchain anymore).
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