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Title: Sonichu Thread
Post by: MadmanJohnson on June 12, 2013, 10:51:48 am
This is exactly what it says on the tin:A thread about Sonichu, the webcomic. This made me become a atheist, It's so bad.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Clochette on June 12, 2013, 11:44:41 am
I don't find Sonichu very interesting by itself. I think its value lies in providing context to Chris-chan's life.

Besides, Asperchu is better. :P
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: niam2023 on June 14, 2013, 06:19:21 pm
It is a fascinating a truly fascinating look into the disturbed mind of a man like Christian Weston Chandler. We see what he would like the world to be, the nightmarish Caligula reign in the comic depicting his ideal solutions for his vendettas.

And as the comic progresses, it only gets more and more evidently a World of Madness. Where there is no law but what Christian desires.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Zygarde on June 14, 2013, 08:05:17 pm
Can I just say I hate that this guy shares the same first name as me.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: R. U. Sirius on June 14, 2013, 08:21:31 pm
For those of us who don't know, could someone please explain what Sonichu is?
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 14, 2013, 11:45:47 pm
Would you believe I used to be a moderator for the CWCki forums? I've already told some of you the story of why I'm no longer a part of that board.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Morgenleoht on June 15, 2013, 12:01:06 am
Sonichu is the bastard offspring of Pikachu and Sonic the Hedgehog created by a high-functioning autistic living on welfare who deserves the Troll Me sign that the Internet has attached to his back. And I say this as a high-functioning autistic geek living on welfare.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Alehksunos on June 15, 2013, 03:33:12 am
Would you believe I used to be a moderator for the CWCki forums? I've already told some of you the story of why I'm no longer a part of that board.

I'm probably guessing the people of that board have an equally creepy obsession with how this poor fool lives, and I mean as disturbing as the shit he draws and follows?
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 15, 2013, 04:20:40 am
Would you believe I used to be a moderator for the CWCki forums? I've already told some of you the story of why I'm no longer a part of that board.

I'm probably guessing the people of that board have an equally creepy obsession with how this poor fool lives, and I mean as disturbing as the shit he draws and follows?

I do have an interest in him and his life, but it's a sort of academic thing. He's a psychological enigma, a person who's so warped and twisted that his psychological problems run too deep for anyone to agree on. He's a sort of living legend in terms of how to not raise an autistic boy: someone with not particularly severe autism who was coddled by his parents, intentionally denied proper counseling for his condition out of an apparent belief that mental health has not advanced past the 50s, told that everyone was out to get him and bigoted against autistics, and a likely mentally ill mother as well with a hoarding compulsion. Then when he failed at getting work, his parents put him on disability and let him essentially live like a bum until he no longer believes that he should even HAVE to work for anything, let alone try.

But no, the people that his "fandom" attracts can be pretty damn weird. Not as weird as him (that's quite difficult), but you do end up with a lot of mental disorders and general weirdos.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Clochette on June 15, 2013, 12:13:37 pm
For those of us who don't know, could someone please explain what Sonichu is?

There's an entire wiki about Sonichu and, more specifically, its creator. Here's the CWCki article (http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Sonichu_%28comic%29) about Sonichu, the comic.

It's too weird to be summarized in just a few words, but basically an autistic man named Christian Weston Chandler created a hybrid between Pikachu and Sonic, the titular Sonichu. It eventually devolved into an outlet for his real-life angsts.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Alehksunos on June 15, 2013, 03:17:36 pm
Here's another contribution to this thread:

I also need to mention that one forum I had abandoned used to have a 'megathread' on Christian Weston Chandler. If you want to know what happened to it; it got locked. Years ago. The userbase of reason (which is rare on that forum, which is why I left) spoke up about how the entire forum had gained an unhealthy obsession of him, one person even posted some of his personal information. Even mention Christian Weston Chandler around that community, and you'll get a question such as "Are you seriously still talking about Chrischan?"

Perhaps the most disgusting legacy of this man has to be the wide anti-autism sentiment throughout the internet. Considering I am autistic myself (there is nothing I can do about it, I was born with this "blight"), this is also an harbinger of alienation. I've often even denied or at all not even mention it because I don't want to become a victim. And if Christian Weston Chandler didn't exist, who would provide the internet's source of negative stereotypes of autism? Timbox? MikeRoach113?
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Clochette on June 15, 2013, 03:32:32 pm
Here's another contribution to this thread:

I also need to mention that one forum I had abandoned used to have a 'megathread' on Christian Weston Chandler. If you want to know what happened to it; it got locked. Years ago. The userbase of reason (which is rare on that forum, which is why I left) spoke up about how the entire forum had gained an unhealthy obsession of him, one person even posted some of his personal information. Even mention Christian Weston Chandler around that community, and you'll get a question such as "Are you seriously still talking about Chrischan?"

Perhaps the most disgusting legacy of this man has to be the wide anti-autism sentiment throughout the internet. Considering I am autistic myself (there is nothing I can do about it, I was born with this "blight"), this is also an harbinger of alienation. I've often even denied or at all not even mention it because I don't want to become a victim. And if Christian Weston Chandler didn't exist, who would provide the internet's source of negative stereotypes of autism? Timbox? MikeRoach113?

I don't think you can blame Chris-chan for that. I don't think most people on the internet even know who he is.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: starseeker on June 15, 2013, 03:41:54 pm
Oh god why did I spend 2 hours on that wiki?

Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 15, 2013, 04:03:07 pm
Oh god why did I spend 2 hours on that wiki?

That's what happens with a guy like him.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Sleepy on June 15, 2013, 04:23:07 pm
Oh god why did I spend 2 hours on that wiki?

I think we've all been there. It's so absurdly strange that you can't stop reading.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: wrightway on June 15, 2013, 04:58:29 pm
For those of us who don't know, could someone please explain what Sonichu is?

There's an entire wiki about Sonichu and, more specifically, its creator. Here's the CWCki article (http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Sonichu_%28comic%29) about Sonichu, the comic.

It's too weird to be summarized in just a few words, but basically an autistic man named Christian Weston Chandler created a hybrid between Pikachu and Sonic, the titular Sonichu. It eventually devolved into an outlet for his real-life angsts.

*shudders* He drew porn?!
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 15, 2013, 05:19:44 pm
Sonichu is a mix of porn, wish fulfillment, and escapism. He's powerless in the real world (and even if he had power, he'd be too lazy to implement anything more difficult than waving his arms and demanding that things be done; he tries this with his "fans", who obviously don't go out and harass the people he says to), so he often drew scenarios in his comic where he or Sonichu (which is really the closest thing he has to a true friend) can defeat his "villains" for him.

Another major problem is that, having grown up as an autistic raised on cartoons, comics, and video games, he views the world through a lens that makes it all look like cartoonish fiction to him. There's no gray in his world, only white (him) and black (everyone who doesn't support and love him). People who have reasonable reason to deny him privileges or hate him are viewed as evil villains, and he even blamed Megan (the girl that he practically stalked and drew homemade porn of, which finally resulted in her cutting off contact with him) for being the cause of all of the trolling he faces. He can't own up to his own mistakes because of how many years his parents, especially his mother, coddled him. So he makes himself out as the good guy and everyone else as bad guys that must be defeated.

It's also apparently part of the reason why he continues to try and battle the trolls or people he thinks are trolls, like the owner of the gaming store that banned him and whom he recently ran down with his van: he treats it like a fictional battle between good and evil, and views "surrendering" as bad. He doesn't want to admit that he should just stop falling for troll bait and ignore them because to his mind, that's letting the trolls win. Indeed, some people think that he WANTS a battle to fight; he has a persecution complex, no doubt, and the theory is that he wants to continue "fighting the good fight" because it feeds his ego and belief that he can do no wrong. It's a lot like the fascists and partisan activists who can't fathom not "struggling against oppression" and seek out new conflicts so they have a purpose. Christian Weston Chandler is truly a manchild without purpose in this world.

This is an example of how you can more seriously analyze him. He really is an enigma from a psychological perspective.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Cloud3514 on June 15, 2013, 06:35:37 pm
Wait, he tried to run someone over because he was banned from the guy's game store? Is that why I had heard a while back that he was arrested?
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 15, 2013, 07:10:36 pm
Wait, he tried to run someone over because he was banned from the guy's game store? Is that why I had heard a while back that he was arrested?

Lemme give you the full story.

There was this gaming and hobby shop called The GAMe PLACe (yeah, it was silly). The first photograph of Chris posted to the internet came from two regulars, who also provided a lot of information about his activities and personality. Chris often went there to play Pokemon and other card battle games (usually losing to small children because he's complete shit at card games), and he was generally very disliked due to his.....abrasive personality.

Chris got more than one temporary ban from the store, and eventually he caused so many arguments that one of the managers, Michael Snyder, permabanned him in 2008. Chris, being autistic, greatly hated this change to his routine and (being raised to have a persecution complex) decided that Snyder was merely evil and mean and hated/feared autistics. He made multiple excursions to the store to try and beg for forgiveness and reprieve from the ban, which just resulted in him being run out by Snyder and occasional police intervention. Nothing but warnings, though, even when he was caught taking photographs of Snyder and nearly ran him over while fleeing the parking lot.

So on October 28, 2011, Chris and his mother passed by the store. It had been renamed Cville's Hobbies, Games, and Toys and was under new ownership. Chris figured that his ban must have been revoked because he's dumb and charged into the store. Keep in mind that this is after he became a "Tomgirl", a sort of strange transvestite that nobody can properly figure out no matter how much they study them, so he's showing up with horrific grown-out hair and probably feminine clothes and makeup.

Obviously, Snyder wasn't happy to see him and called the police. Chris shouted "For the internet!" and began taking photos of Snyder with his DS as he and his mother fled to their van. Snyder stood outside the van to watch them as the police came, and Chris panicked (or was encouraged by his mother; details are sketchy here due to the lack of a publicly available police report) and hit Snyder with the van. He and his mother switched seats, then his mom hit Snyder even harder and they fled. They were pulled over by police about a quarter mile from the store and arrested, with Barb being taken away in an ambulance along with Snyder (either due to stress or faking stress-related illness) and Chris being jailed for about a day until his pastor bailed him out. Both of them were charged with felony hit and run, with Chris getting misdemeanor assault and trespassing and his mother getting felony assault (possibly from attacking the arresting officer).

It took a while for things to get sorted out. While going through the months-long process of the trial and plea bargaining, Chris was permabanned from the local mall (not his first banning, of course) for loitering, passing out anti-Snyder fliers, rearranging furniture to suit his desires, and fleeing from security guards.

A CWCki forum member and her friend attended the public trial, and it was found that a plea bargain had been made; Snyder, ever the nice guy, didn't want them slapped with felonies. Chris had an outburst in court, calling Snyder a "thieving/bribing liar" when agreeing to pay Snyder's medical bills, but avoided any contempt of court charges. He was apparently barely avoiding another outburst when his lawyer called him an "adult autistic child", since Chris tends to get quite upset whenever anyone criticizes his mindset or competency (unless it suits him to claim that he's "retarded" to get out of trouble). Both he and his mother got probation (Chris got a year, Barb got two), with Chris also receiving community service and a mandatory psychological evaluation.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: starseeker on June 15, 2013, 07:12:16 pm
Wait, he tried to run someone over because he was banned from the guy's game store? Is that why I had heard a while back that he was arrested?

Apparently.


This whole thing is reminding me that while I may be mildly autistic, on the dole and living with my parents, I am still a sane and productive member of society compared to this guy. The whole thing is just uttery, utterly mad.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 15, 2013, 07:24:25 pm
I should also point out here that a common theory is that Chris is a sociopath, or at least shows sociopathic tendencies. There's certainly quite a bit of evidence: he tends to treat other people in a way comparable to NPCs in video games, showing little to no concern for their well-being or even if they live or die unless he can get something out of it. He's 100% selfish and highly manipulative, though he's not very good at it because he has pretty much zero clue when it comes to social cues and is frankly pretty dumb otherwise; he WOULD be a good manipulator if he had an idea of what he was doing. He never feels true guilt, merely getting upset that he failed or was punished. He has very little tolerance for failure and tends to be highly aggressive, though he's also cowardly and will back down quickly if he's actually at risk of getting hurt; there was a case where he started shouting and threatening a much larger player in a card game, only to back down as soon as said player started looking like he was going to throat punch him.

And, most markedly, he likes to blame others for his problems and behavior. I mentioned a rather infamous incident before, where he drew porn of himself and the girl he was pining for. Well, he posted said picture on his Encyclopedia Dramatica article in a bizarre attempt to prove that he wasn't gay (he gets a lot of accusations of being heavily closeted, not without reason, and trolls know that his severe homophobia will make him flip out), and then told everyone who it was when they thought it was the female persona/sister he created for his comics. Megan, understandably, was quite horrified and embarrassed. Chris tried to blame her reaction on her own lack of knowledge of sex, implying that she'd be okay with it if she understood her vagina and his fingers better.

This also ties in to his persecution complex and tendency to accuse almost anyone of trolling him. He's been trolled so long (generally through his own incompetence and desire to combat or bait trolls instead of ignoring them) that he now honestly believes that there's a massive troll conspiracy that dates back to the days when the Greene County school board tried to pay off everyone to keep them from moving out of a fear and hatred of autistics. He thinks that there's been a conspiracy since his birth to harass and bully him, and has regularly accused unsuspecting people of being trolls even if they just do something vaguely unusual. Like when he posted surreptitiously taken photos of a Burger King employee in McDonalds, uploading them to his Facebook with captions indicating that he feared that he was a troll agent sent to spy on him.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Sleepy on June 15, 2013, 09:33:23 pm
Stuff like that is why I read his wiki. This guy is like nothing I've seen before, and trying to understand him psychologically is extremely entertaining.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 15, 2013, 10:14:09 pm
Stuff like that is why I read his wiki. This guy is like nothing I've seen before, and trying to understand him psychologically is extremely entertaining.

It really is something you can get lost in. There's humor to be found in some of it, but it can be a serious psychological analysis. He's like a living thought exercise.

One thing that I repeatedly reminded people of back when I was on the CWCki forum was that we should remember that while we laugh now, it's highly likely that he won't have a good end. His autism isn't crippling, but the way he was raised is. He refuses to admit fault and seemingly can't feel true guilt, so any time something bad happens because of his own fuckups he just blames it on anyone and anything possible. His mind is a mess of contradictions, fractured too badly for even a professional psychologist to pick up the pieces. And he doesn't want help, so he can't get any even if he was salvageable.

He's unemployed and has no qualifications, physical or mental, for anything beyond a menial job like collecting shopping carts; he could, but his severe laziness prevents him from working whenever he's given a job and led to him narrowly making it through a nearly useless community college CAD certification (and I've seen his blueprints; they're abysmal, high school level stuff). He lives on government money, outright refusing to work because it's simply easier to sit around and get cash because his father pulled some strings to get him put on disability for his autism. He even abuses this to use the handicap tag for his parents' car (meant to be used for parents with autistic children who may run into traffic or something) so he can park closer to stores. He has no desire to put forth effort for anything, to the point where he's surrendered on negotiations or arguments despite apparently having the upper hand because it's easier to give up and forget about it than to try and accomplish something. And his social security can be taken away if he ends up fucking up with the law too much.

Speaking of which, the guy has no respect for the law or those who enforce it, or other people. He believes that he's entitled to what he wants, when he wants it and simply applies the "villain" label to anyone who stands in his way. He not only doesn't try to comprehend why people may do the things that they do, but he CAN'T comprehend it as long as he still views them as cartoon villains to be vanquished. All he's learned from his arrest was "The trolls are in the government and police too!" and that's all he CAN learn because of how fucked up he is in the head. He doesn't act out only because he's afraid of punishment and pain, rather than actually understanding right and wrong on the same terms as the rest of humanity. He does have a concept of right and wrong, don't think otherwise. He just has a very warped view where everything HE does is right.

What does this mean? He's fucked. His father died almost 2 years ago, and his mother is in very poor health. His house is a hoarder's nightmare, physically in shambles and stuffed with enough trash that a single spark could cause it to go up like a block of thermite. He likely has no clue how to pay bills or taxes, and is so lazy that he'd likely ignore them as long as he could and beg for help from his pastor or the very few "friends" he still has before actually learning to handle adulthood himself. His disability checks would be enough to sustain him if he was careful, but he wastes his money on video games, Apple products, and McDonalds; he's even stolen cash and credit cards from his parents to help fund his nearly compulsive PSN shopping and regularly maxed out various cards. It's doubtful that he'd ever learn to properly control himself.

When Barb dies, Chris will be alone. Rocky, the pastor who mindlessly cares for him and treats him like a severely autistic child rather than a mildly autistic and badly raised man, won't take him in. Nobody can send him to a group home against his consent (this is a common suggestion among CWC followers), and it wouldn't be free if they did. No job, very little work experience, and no desire to work or qualifications that could get him past minimum wage. No idea how to live like an adult, and nobody in his life who can properly control him; his mother is mainly the one who keeps him from roaming around outside and causing problems.

It's highly likely that Chris will die cold and alone, with nobody left to care about him except for all of the people who follow his bizarre antics. The ones that he's decried as trolls and bullies, even the ones who never did anything but gape at his insanity.

They'd probably put on a better funeral than the people who knew him personally.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Morgenleoht on June 15, 2013, 10:25:13 pm
^This.

I look at Chris as a way not to end up.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Alehksunos on June 15, 2013, 10:34:47 pm
I think the scariest thing about Christian is that his father was a Klansman, let alone a racist Southerner (born in Texas, raised in Alabama, where there is far less beacon of hope there) who wound up in one of the "Threshold" states. That man had teach his son very bad lessons and to be morally dim as he was.

And everybody remembers him as the "Internet Lumberjack," as a reference to him trying to deprive his son access to the internet because he was caught masturbating in front of a webcam.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 15, 2013, 10:36:41 pm
...I genuinely and deeply feel sorry for him and actually kinda feel like crying now.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 15, 2013, 10:43:53 pm
I think the scariest thing about Christian is that his father was a Klansman, let alone a racist Southerner (born in Texas, raised in Alabama, where there is far less beacon of hope there) who wound up in one of the "Threshold" states. That man had teach his son very bad lessons and to be morally dim as he was.

And everybody remembers him as the "Internet Lumberjack," as a reference to him trying to deprive his son access to the internet because he was caught masturbating in front of a webcam.

Actually, the idea that Bob was in the KKK is pretty hotly contested. He made one threat toward some prank callers that said "I've seen crosses burnin' boy. You don't want to see that." That's not really enough information to go on. There's also not a whole lot of evidence for racism other than making one of the usual "Obama will paint the White House black" jokes back in 2008.

On the contrary, he served in Korea, heavily supported the United Nations, and seems to have had a great interest in international culture. He was still an angry old man, but who could blame him? His wife is literally insane, a compulsive hoarder and probably a severe attention whore who's believed to have been the driving force behind her and Chris getting arrested in 2011. He tried to recruit Chris to clean up, but she flipped out and threatened suicide. He had other kids, but his backwards views of mental health (his parents basically viewed mental health care as being on the same level as when they were children, and these people were senior citizens before Chris was an adult) encouraged him to try and keep his autistic son mainstreamed until it was too late.

I think at some point, he just completely gave up. His health was failing him, his wife was nuts and had little to no love on display for him (and indeed for Chris, who some have suggested she views as just another piece of junk or a pet to be hoarded), and his son was a lazy idiot who regularly got into fights online and in real life. Neither of them would bother cleaning up anything, and so he became slowly surrounded by junk and the garden he cared for died.

I wouldn't blame him for just giving up in his last few years and trying to just forget everything before dying.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: wrightway on June 15, 2013, 10:47:10 pm
Is there any truth to the whole Reagan gutted mental health in the US thing? If so I'm suddenly in favor of a little night digging.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 15, 2013, 11:03:03 pm
Is there any truth to the whole Reagan gutted mental health in the US thing? If so I'm suddenly in favor of a little night digging.

Not sure, but the problem with Chris isn't that Regan fucked around with the mental health system. He could have turned out fine, like a great many autistics born back in 1982 and later. But his parents had a view on mental health that would have been appropriate in the 1950s (as they never updated their opinions and fears with the times), and were afraid that their son would just be locked away in a padded cell and tortured.

So when Chris had a severe outburst in elementary school that resulted in the school board attempting to have him placed in a special school, his parents temporarily fled to another district and homeschooled him until they could put him in mainstream classes.

He did suffer from being put with all the "special" kids in high school, with teachers who treated him more like a legitimately mentally retarded teenager than someone who was just mildly autistic, but any improvements were hampered by his parents' efforts to deny their son's problems whenever it suited them and keep him from getting the help he needed, thanks to their hopelessly primitive ideas.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Morgenleoht on June 15, 2013, 11:17:27 pm
Yeah, Chris is a living example of how not to raise a high-functioning autistic. As much as I loathe my mother, at least she did her best to make me able to function in the real world.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Alehksunos on June 15, 2013, 11:18:36 pm
I remember back in 9th Grade I was placed in a "Special Education" room instead of treated like a mildly autistic student. At least I was able to attend actual classes, but I still thought it was bullshit to be placed in that sort of environment and I hated being there. Not even my mother liked that, and thanks to her not being a troglodyte like Bob and Barb were I am able to live a (mostly) normal life.

I had no idea there would exist a person before me who is a psychological black hole then. Back in 2006, I was some highly overweight cunt who judged people in the Sonic the Hedgehog fandom for their shipping preferences and if I didn't find some LiveJournal community judging my offensive behavior after getting banned from a shipping community on deviantART and accepted my criticism to later redeem myself, I would have been a black hole like him. And if it weren't for that LiveJournal community, I wouldn't have been able to adapt to the Encyclopedia Dramatica (I loathe that site now, for different reasons).

And of course, don't start with the parallels...
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Southern Comforter on June 16, 2013, 12:51:46 am
Heh, Sonichu. I remember Sonichu.

I used to be able to talk about it for hours when I first found out about it, but now I just don't really care about it or Chris Chan. Sonichu actually resulted in me meeting a few close friends online, but we never talk about it anymore. It's surprising how ordinary the lot of us are. Apparently, Sonichu has a habit of attracting weirdos like this guy (https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Anthony_'A-Log'_LoGatto), but everyone I've met that was interested in Sonichu or Chris Chan has been above average intelligence, emotionally stable, and good looking to boot.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Thejebusfire on June 16, 2013, 01:21:56 am
I had completely forgotten about Chris Chan's existence until now.

Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: MadmanJohnson on June 18, 2013, 12:28:30 pm
Same here. God, Austism is no excuse for being a prick. Just ask me.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Stormwarden on June 20, 2013, 02:51:02 am
I remember him, only for the TVTropes (back before they got so...anal). Still leaves me shaking my head. I hope the psych eval helps correct him. While I am worried about him getting himself killed after his mom dies, I'm more concerned about how many people he might take with him. I suppose he could be involuntarily committed, or jailed/imprisoned if he acts up, but his mindset concerns me the most.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Art Vandelay on June 20, 2013, 03:01:43 am
Damn, I never realised the guy is a grown man until now. I always saw both the quality of his comic and his general shenanigans and always assumed he was 12-14. Well, that's just positively tragic.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 20, 2013, 03:38:34 am
I hope the psych eval helps correct him.

Absolutely not. Remember, it was only an evaluation. He wasn't being given mandatory counseling or being committed. Even if he was, you can't help people who don't want help. Chris is so difficult to help nowadays because he thinks that he's right and everyone else is wrong and/or part of a conspiracy against him. His first thought about a therapist who doesn't simply give in to his demands and tells him what he wants to hear is "They're trying to trick me and brainwash me!" That's why he seeks out advice from his pastor rather than a professional: she tells him what he wants to hear and doesn't make demands. Treating her like a professional lets him justify his actions to himself.

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I suppose he could be involuntarily committed, or jailed/imprisoned if he acts up, but his mindset concerns me the most.

A lot of people watching him want him kept away from society, but it's hard. Chris has been arrested multiple times in the past and brought to trial once or twice before the October 28th incident, but he could always pull the autism card; few people are willing to lock up a guy with a mental disability even if it's relatively benign and the majority of his problems come from poor parenting rather than a miswired brain. His autism ensures that he'll always get a lighter sentence unless he does something especially drastic, like murder. In which case it's too late to help.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Alehksunos on June 23, 2013, 03:50:34 am
I just want to leave a post on informing everybody that I once got a monster headache thinking about this man and the hell he is in. This person is so tragic that it literally make me feel sick and I don't want anyone else to fall into the same place he is in.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Søren on June 25, 2013, 07:24:53 am
If he does go nuts one day and kills someone. I hope its some of those people that document his every move, even the creator of the wiki.

Now that would be hilarious
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: MadmanJohnson on June 25, 2013, 08:35:15 am
THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 25, 2013, 11:42:03 am
You two have interesting definitions of hilarious and awesome O_o
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 25, 2013, 11:52:27 am
Not to mention that I personally know some of said people, and I was friends with them for a time.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Errata on June 25, 2013, 01:06:36 pm
Oh man, yes. I remember Sonichu and Chris-chan. Chris was always something of the inverse of the Dude from Big Lebowski for me. It always helped me relax, realizing that out there, right now, Chris is doing nothing productive and worthwhile at all.

So wait, is the CWCki still up? I thought it got hit with malware problems or something a few months back. I haven't been on it in almost half a year. It's still around?
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Clochette on June 25, 2013, 01:57:35 pm
Oh man, yes. I remember Sonichu and Chris-chan. Chris was always something of the inverse of the Dude from Big Lebowski for me. It always helped me relax, realizing that out there, right now, Chris is doing nothing productive and worthwhile at all.

So wait, is the CWCki still up? I thought it got hit with malware problems or something a few months back. I haven't been on it in almost half a year. It's still around?

The CWCki was having issues with spammers a while back but I think it's back to normal now. There was huge leak of Chris-chan content recently, if you're still following him.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Errata on June 25, 2013, 02:11:58 pm

The CWCki was having issues with spammers a while back but I think it's back to normal now. There was huge leak of Chris-chan content recently, if you're still following him.

I may have to then. Keeping up with Chris was always fun. Like chitoryu says, it quickly becomes a hobby of figuring him out. In his own lazy way, Chris has made himself as multi-layered as the best fictional characters out there. He's the Walter White of stupidity.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Southern Comforter on June 25, 2013, 04:39:50 pm
So wait, is the CWCki still up? I thought it got hit with malware problems or something a few months back. I haven't been on it in almost half a year. It's still around?
CWCki's still up... it's been up for as long as I can remember, actually. I would go there from time to time to see if anything new would happen, but now I rarely touch it. I tried joining the forums too some time in 2011 when it was all coming to an end, but I never got an activation e-mail because they were using Yuku, and Yuku's apparently mad gay (I tried making a forum on Yuku not that long after that. Got nothing but trouble out of it). I don't recall seeing Chitoryu as a mod like he stated in the first page of the thread, but when I think about it, I think he might have been there. Maybe he was promoted after I gave up on trying to post there. Now I get most of my news on Chris from some of the guys I talk to in a Skype group who still tend to keep up with him every now and then.

If he does go nuts one day and kills someone. I hope its some of those people that document his every move, even the creator of the wiki.

Now that would be hilarious
I wouldn't say my friends document his every move, but come on, they're nice people and haven't ever done anything to hurt him. I assume a lot of the people who follow him are like my friends. As for Cogsdev, I've heard stuff about him/her/it/whatever, I don't know, and none of the things I've heard have been good things.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 25, 2013, 09:50:09 pm
I was only a moderator throughout most of 2012 up to about midway through January this year.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Errata on June 27, 2013, 07:22:15 pm
It's funny. I haven't seen a Chris video in months... but as soon as I start reading some of his Facebook messages, I remember exactly how he sounds. The voice, the speech patterns, everything. You just never forget it. It's like the way a Zora Neale Hurston book emulates southern speech patterns by... actually no. No, it's just silly.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Stormwarden on June 28, 2013, 01:26:45 am
I'd prefer he be stopped before he kills someone, myself. As much as I like irony, I prefer that those involved be alive to see what they had wrought. There are times that I wonder if the CWCki people didn't create a monster by feeding the attention whore. OTOH, he let them do it, and what's more, his is a willful ignorance. I suppose there's plenty of room for blame. I'm not letting the wiki off the hook for the medallion incident, and feel they should be prosecuted, for example.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 28, 2013, 01:49:32 am
I'd prefer he be stopped before he kills someone, myself. As much as I like irony, I prefer that those involved be alive to see what they had wrought. There are times that I wonder if the CWCki people didn't create a monster by feeding the attention whore. OTOH, he let them do it, and what's more, his is a willful ignorance. I suppose there's plenty of room for blame. I'm not letting the wiki off the hook for the medallion incident, and feel they should be prosecuted, for example.

Chris wouldn't have turned out much different without the trolling and CWCki. The CWCki, especially, hasn't really done much directly to him in the first place.

Chris was already feeding off of what he got in real life, while also alienating people; Megan's story should give you a good idea. But the trolling meant that he was eventually so paranoid that he could form a conspiracy in his head that has forced him away from almost anyone out of terror. Had this never happened, he likely would have obliviously continued to screw around with real world people instead of being distracted by his internet quests.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Søren on June 28, 2013, 03:08:57 am
Thats no excuse for being worthless pieces of shit
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Errata on June 28, 2013, 10:12:21 am
I'd prefer he be stopped before he kills someone, myself. As much as I like irony, I prefer that those involved be alive to see what they had wrought. There are times that I wonder if the CWCki people didn't create a monster by feeding the attention whore. OTOH, he let them do it, and what's more, his is a willful ignorance. I suppose there's plenty of room for blame. I'm not letting the wiki off the hook for the medallion incident, and feel they should be prosecuted, for example.

Honestly, what would Chris be without his "fans?" Chris has always and will always be completely self-entitled, certain that nothing is his fault and that he deserves the world and any force or decision that does not lead to his getting what he wants is "evil" and "against him." Chris was like that before he was discovered. All this trolling has actually done nothing to Chris' personality or actions except give him a new name for "evil." Chris has proven through things like the call with Kacey's dad that no force on earth can change his personality or view of the world, even when to do so would be to his immediate gain.

If he'd never been discovered, he'd still be overweight, alone, miserable, and blaming the world for his troubles. He still would have tried to run Michael Snyder over with his car, he still would try to use his form of black magic on people and pray for their death, he still would have ended up exactly the same. All this attention has done something Chris could never do alone: it's made someone beside Chris happy and it's given him purpose. Chris thinks he deserves to be the center of a great drama. Well, in a weird way, he is now. All this attention has actually made Chris' antics worthwhile. They've become a contribution to the world, however small and strange. Hell, in that way, Chris' fans have given him a gift most people never get. Chris will be remember by more people than Joe Blow if only because he's too strange to forget about.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: MadmanJohnson on July 01, 2013, 06:50:59 am
NECRO POWERS ACTIVATE!Ok, I think someone needs to troll Chris into making another issue.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: starseeker on July 01, 2013, 06:54:15 am
NECRO POWERS ACTIVATE!Ok, I think someone needs to troll Chris into making another issue.

No, he doesn't need help with that.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 01, 2013, 07:06:54 am
NECRO POWERS ACTIVATE!Ok, I think someone needs to troll Chris into making another issue.

Not gonna happen.

This was a subject that came up frequently on the CWCki forums, and people who are more "in the know" were able to shed more light on it. The Sonichu comics were a combination of wish fulfillment and a "happy place" for Chris. He was (and still is) powerless in real life, but he's highly averse to change and frankly views himself as, if not perfect, then completely fine and never in need of improvement. So instead of trying to help himself out, he used Sonichu as a way to fight his battles for him. When he got in trouble with the college dean or Target security, he could act out the events in his mind through the comic book and essentially live vicariously through his fantasies, depicting himself as victorious in his struggles.

When the trolls arrived, they changed Sonichu. His comic became a recounting of his battles with the Internet itself, and trolls often mocked the content or tried to manipulate it. Asperchu became a popular parody, with Chris naively viewing it as a copycat stealing his "fame" (he still imagined himself as world-famous, rather than infamous).

The last straw was Simonla Rosechu. She was a female character taken from a joke someone made to try and get it into the comic. Chris had the creator's permission, and even discussed the character with him, but he lied about certain aspects of the character and then attempted to refuse him any creative control over the character he made. Eventually he tried to outright deny that Simonla had any inspiration from anyone else's character, which resulted in mass derision from the "fanbase", who hounded him through various means (including editing his own self-made wiki) until he finally killed the character off.

That was the true sign to Chris that Sonichu, as well as his own wiki, was no longer his safe haven. The trolls could now influence it, and in his stupidity and stubborn attempts to deny reality he made himself a fool time and time again. He was completely scared off from making any continuations of the storyline.

That's not to say he's totally given up drawing. He revealed a few more original works, including turning one of the established youth characters into a Tomgirl like himself (for those not in the know, a "Tomgirl" is some bizarre half-transvestite amalgamation of horrific misinterpretations of sex and gender roles that could literally only come from a mind such as his). But as a comic book, the series is done for now. Nothing will convince him except himself.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: MadmanJohnson on July 01, 2013, 07:09:46 am
*Evilly laughs and mutters to self.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 01, 2013, 07:28:18 am
*Evilly laughs and mutters to self.

No, you won't do it either.

Look, EVERYONE has had some kind of idea about him. Trolls want to be the next Clyde Cash. White knights want to save Chris from himself, ignoring the countless masses that have failed to get in even a little bit with him.

Chris, as of late 2012, has shut himself off completely from the world. In fact, in 2012 he only spent a few brief months at at the end of summer and through the fall actually being himself and responding to trolls, never realizing that the trolls themselves were still manipulating his actions for their own amusement. The death of his father hit him hard (ironically, though, the CWCki and trolls gave a better tribute to him than he did), and he's been almost totally shut off. The vast majority of his responses to online baiting have been angry Facebook posts directed to them, which we no longer even get to see after he figured out how to make his Wall private; we only occasionally get dumps of leaked content from weeks or months ago.

Chris doesn't care. He has legit fear of a trolling conspiracy surrounding him since his birth, and views everyone even a tiny bit negative or suspicious as a troll. A white knight trying to get him to shape up? A troll trick. A Burger King employee texting in a McDonalds? A troll agent communicating with his shadowy comrades on the internet. That one actually happened, by the way. He's so terrified that he's shut himself off from almost everyone who hasn't already known him in real life for a long time. With his mother's likely impending death, things will be thrown even more into havoc.

It's really best to just give up on any plans you may have or want to implement. Even if you figured out how to contact Chris without being automatically sent to the spam filter or ignored (he totally ignores unrecognized phone numbers, and will only give thought to ones with a local area code in the first place before ignoring them if they're not already in his contact list), he'll wall himself off as soon as he has even an inkling of any sort of ill behavior. He may be gullible as fuck, but he's gradually managed to learn not to blindly trust everyone he sees. Unfortunately, he's replaced this with blind fear of everyone new (mixed with the old blind trust in everyone he already knew).

It's simply a fact that you won't troll Chris. Not unless you consider planting burning crosses or whatnot on his lawn or otherwise harassing him in real life, in which case you can go right ahead if you're okay with plenty of people (including myself) promptly reporting you to the police.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Errata on July 01, 2013, 12:07:05 pm
The rules when it comes to trolling Chris these days are simple:
You can't get him to acknowledge you.
If you do, you can't get him to listen.
If you do, you can't get him to respond.
If you do, he won't respond as you want him to.
If he does, his response will be so half-assed that you will be disappointed and set out to try again.
The cycle repeats.

Someone managed to get to Chris somehow with dox on some of his supposed troll enemies. Chris thought he finally had a weapon and the troll behind it thought he finally had the means to get Chris to do exactly what he wanted. He could make him dance. It was going to be sweet. The troll gave Chris some orders on using the dox... and Chris botched them all up by doing what he wanted to instead. I recall that one thing the troll wanted out of Chris was for him to eat a whole block of cheese, hoping he'd get sick or something. Chris ate a pizza instead and while watching Chris eat is never pleasant, it wasn't what the troll wanted.

Then Bob died and the fete was off. The troll who had managed what seemed to be the wetdream of Chris-chasers was left with a half-assed idea, unrealized ambitions, and, best of all, no one in the world honestly cared about what he'd done because, ultimately, Chris acting out on his own was far funnier than any of the ideas the troll had been trying to feed to him. A block of cheese is childish. Chris coming up with the idea of a "tomgirl" was hysterical.

The only real "trolling" that works on Chris these days is the mere continued existence of his hated nemesis, the trolls. So long as people on the internet remember him, update wikis about him, and keep the info about what he's done available, Chris will be eternally trolled, in his own head.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Sleepy on July 01, 2013, 06:24:04 pm
I swear I'm reading some sort of sci-fi book here. This is weirder than I ever thought it'd get.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 01, 2013, 06:54:07 pm
I swear I'm reading some sort of sci-fi book here. This is weirder than I ever thought it'd get.

Even the people who have the most vested interest in Chris don't know how deep the rabbit hole goes.

His mind is unique in all senses of the term. Literally nobody else we can find has a brain that works quite like his does. It goes beyond simply "autism and poor parenting." He was raised to fear and distrust everyone, especially mental health professionals. He was coddled beyond belief, always told that nothing was his fault and people were just jealous and/or fearful of him and his disability. When he inevitably failed in the work environment (he held a part-time job at Wendy's for something like a month in 2001 before getting fired), his father responded by pulling some strings to get him placed on social security disability, ensuring that he wouldn't have to work as long as his parents were still alive.

He has little understanding of sex, gleaning most of it from a mixture of pornography and strict Christian upbringing. He has stereotypically feminine characteristics and has said before that he'd be willing to have sex with a man if it pleased his internet girlfriend, but becomes nearly violently angry when accused of homosexuality. He created the concept of Tomgirl, an impossibly bizarre transvestite-esque caricature, and not even his closest companions know why. Maybe Chris himself doesn't know. Some say it was because he was told to "embrace his feminine side" to get girls and he just took it way too far (someone I know who's more knowledgeable confirms this happened, but even he doesn't know why Chris interpreted it this way). Some say he has legitimate gender confusion, but many are skeptical as he continues to insist that he's a man who happens to be a Tomgirl. Some say he wanted to be the male equivalent of a tomboy. Some say it's a bizarre way of expressing his closeted homosexual desires. Nobody knows; his mind is too fractured to glean any information.

He has both severe gullibility and severe paranoia. Anyone he doesn't know is automatically a villain until they prove otherwise, and even their method of proof may be taken as evidence of wrongdoing. Even the police and courts are in the trolls' pocket, and he's retroactively accused people in his past of being trolls or even starting the whole conspiracy. At the same time, he mindlessly follows anyone he already trusts and will never believe that they would do him wrong. Though that behavior may change, as a troll recently posed as his cousin to get information.

He hates and fears authority, as people higher than him are the one check on his behavior. He would likely do a lot of nasty things if he didn't have to fear retribution, either from the establishment (like police and school officials) or from the many people stronger and smarter than him. He taunts the police and mall security and flaunts their rules, but panics and runs screaming (sometimes literally) as soon as they approach to punish him. At the same time, he has no problem trying to send said authority after those that he deems deserving of his wrath: many times he's attempted to threaten legal action against trolls or even people who just happened to annoy him. According to an incident where trolls crank called the local police station with a CWC soundboard, the police are fully aware of the Chandler family and may have had to deal with many false alarms or claims from them in the past.

He is both manipulative and manipulated, stubbornly determined and lazy beyond belief. He will get into an argument, have the upper hand or even have something he can legitimately hold over the other party's head, then drop out of the fight altogether because he can't bring himself to put forth the effort to press harder. When he's got his balls in the metaphorical vice and is over a barrel, he'll act like he's negotiating from the superior position. He lies and schemes his way around people, treating them more like video game NPCs that can give him what he wants instead of real human beings, but is so incompetent and unintelligent that they manipulate him back without him ever knowing (or he's so incompetent that his attempted manipulations merely backfire spectacularly). He is a walking contradiction.

He thinks the world owes him everything, while he owes it nothing but himself. He's perfectly content to sit around all day earning SSDI checks that he hardly deserves, without considering what life will be like when his mother dies and nobody is willing to care for him. When confronted with a problem, his first response is to either ignore it until it goes away or scream like a baby until someone fixes it for him.

His autism comes and goes as a disability or advantage as it pleases him. He will declare autistics to be the next step in human evolution and persecuted because of fear and hatred from inferior neurotypicals, and then immediately use "I'm retarded!" as an excuse when he gets caught doing something dumb.

The reason people have such a morbid fascination with Christian Weston Chandler is because he's a person like no other. Everything about him is a psychologist's dream case, though it would likely turn into a nightmare trying to actually get anything out of him: Chris fears mental health professionals and hates anyone who tries to fix him. He'll gladly lie through his teeth about anything and everything, especially things that may get him in trouble or scolded if he revealed them. One woman who tried to white knight him turned into a troll because it was "like talking to a brick wall." He is an unsalvageable mess, only good for study.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Stormwarden on July 02, 2013, 01:43:41 am
Yeah, well, I'm not interested in saving CWC. He's too far gone. I'm just not keen on the idea that he might take someone with him. More than likely, someone who doesn't even know who he is.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Errata on July 02, 2013, 02:04:01 am
Yeah, well, I'm not interested in saving CWC. He's too far gone. I'm just not keen on the idea that he might take someone with him. More than likely, someone who doesn't even know who he is.

I was just about to say "I doubt CWC could hurt anybody if he tried. No one would sell him a gun." Then I realized where Chris lived and laughed at myself.

Though to be fair, a gun is pretty much the only way Chris could possible inflict harm on a human and I mean that seriously. He showed off on video his attempts to use a knife. He couldn't cut up a ham. A carved ham. And I knowing Chris, somehow he'd screw up using a gun and end up just killing himself instead of his target. Assuming his laziness isn't enough to keep him from ever getting a gun in the first place. Even if Bob owned one, Chris is probably too lazy to bother getting it.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Alehksunos on July 02, 2013, 02:11:00 am
@ chitoryu12's latest post:

Oh yes, he has funny ideas about... just about everything.

And here's the most disgusting:

(click to show/hide)

And then, there is:

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I really want to say that I really don't like the Wiki on him. It takes some of the shit I hate about the Encyclopedia Dramatica and drags it there. Not to mention the casual use of racist, ableist and homophobic slurs, the 'Chan-speak' and the overall style of the wiki.

I really want to feel sorry for this man, but he's a lost cause and will never rise from the abyss he is in.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Stormwarden on July 02, 2013, 02:41:26 am
I hope you're right, Errata. But you don't need a gun or a knife to hurt someone. He's already shown he's more than willing to use a car. On the plus side, a car can be stopped fairly quickly by a cop who knows what he/she is doing.

I do take an idiot with a gun seriously. I recall a quote, so I'll paraphrase it : "I do not fear the world's greatest swordsman. I fear the world's worst swordsman, because there's no telling what that crazy bastard will do."

As for his funny ideas...well...At least we won't have to concern ourselves with him spreading his genes. I don't like the wiki either.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Radiation on July 02, 2013, 03:00:28 am
I'm reading the wiki right now as I can't sleep and wow...this dude is far off the deep end.

Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 02, 2013, 03:43:05 am
I hope you're right, Errata. But you don't need a gun or a knife to hurt someone. He's already shown he's more than willing to use a car. On the plus side, a car can be stopped fairly quickly by a cop who knows what he/she is doing.

I do take an idiot with a gun seriously. I recall a quote, so I'll paraphrase it : "I do not fear the world's greatest swordsman. I fear the world's worst swordsman, because there's no telling what that crazy bastard will do."

As for his funny ideas...well...At least we won't have to concern ourselves with him spreading his genes. I don't like the wiki either.

Well, guns are a bit different than swords. A sword or knife still lets you do serious damage if you clumsily swing and stab at random, just because of the design. With a gun, though, it takes a lot of skill. Police officers have notoriously lax training (I've seen the training regimen myself, and I know dozens of CIVILIAN shooters who are more practiced than them), which is why you usually see hit ratios in the realm of 30% even against targets who are still and not shooting back; most of their training goes toward making them able to draw, shoot, and reload on instinct. Gangbangers tend to be even worse since they (like Chris will) don't have the proper form and just kinda spray randomly.

First off, Chris would need to actually GET a gun. Contrary to the opinion of the South and America in general, someone like Chris will be scrutinized walking into a gun store much in the way that a small child would. Any shop owner, no matter how virulently supportive of the Second Amendment, would refuse a sale to him because he's very clearly mentally incompetent and a bigger danger to himself and others than the targets. He frankly looks like the guy who would muzzle sweep everyone in the store or even practice aiming by pointing the gun at the clerk, then start trying to load his gun up and shove it down the front of his pants before he's even out the front door. So he'd need to seek out a black market dealer; even if he knew where to find one, he'd still need cash. AND a dealer who's willing to sell to a guy who looks like he'll accidentally shoot the dude who just sold him the weapon.

So then he'd need to figure out how to load the thing. I'd be surprised if his buttery mitts could get a single cartridge in a magazine (you know he'd go for the cheapest gun possible, like a Raven Arms .25 or one of the many identical copies from the rest of the Ring of Fire like Lorcin and Phoenix; if he were lucky, a cheapo .22 revolver). Assuming he managed to get his gun loaded, he'd inevitably keep his finger on the trigger 24/7 and forget the safety regularly, and promptly put a hole in his wall or TV.

He wouldn't bother buying a proper holster, so he'd just stuff the gun in his pocket or waistband (or maybe his Tomgirl purse) and shoot himself in the leg.

And assuming he finally gets a loaded gun, he'd show up to see Michael Snyder in the parking lot, draw, and dump the entire magazine into the storefront behind him. Tons of collateral damage, but fails to hit anything (except maybe some unfortunate children in the building). The cops show up and ventilate him.

Nah, a car or blade is the best solution for him. It takes much less effort to jab a knife in a guy, or smash him with a car. Hell, Chris did it just last year!
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Errata on July 02, 2013, 11:23:16 am
Speaking of the car incident, that's one thing to consider. Yes, Chris is unstable, and there are those of us who worry what if he goes too far, what if he hurts somebody. But the incident with the car is the one example we have of him attempting to hurt someone.

It failed. He did gave Snyder some bruises, but ultimately, didn't do any lasting damage to anyone or thing so far as I know. And here's why I think. Chris talks, but he doesn't have the capacity in him to go through with real harm even at his most angry moment. If he had Snyder in his sight with his car, he'd hit the breaks or swerve. Hell, it sounds like he did just that. Because again, Chris fears authority, and he knows it's something he can't control.

If Chris had a gun, he wouldn't have it in him to spray up the Game Place because he'd be afraid to. If Chris could use a knife against anyone but a coma victim, he wouldn't have it in him to try because he'd be afraid.

This is the guy who stuffed his bed full of toys and hid under the pillows on his couch one night because someone told him a troll was going to come to his house and kill him. He's the one who runs from mall cops like it's the Bourne Identity. Yes, Chris has plenty of capacity in him to WANT to hurt people and to WISH people be hurt or killed. But nothing I've seen convinces me he has it in him to do it himself. The mix of laziness, fear, and his own weird world view won't allow it.

I may be proven wrong one day, but I just can't imagine a mix of situations that would allow Chris to overcome all of the barriers between him and physical violence to do lasting damage to someone.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: MadmanJohnson on July 02, 2013, 03:01:28 pm
Oh god. THIS,FLESHLINGS! THIS! Behold: http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Magical_Man
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Cloud3514 on July 02, 2013, 03:09:58 pm
First off, Chris would need to actually GET a gun. Contrary to the opinion of the South and America in general, someone like Chris will be scrutinized walking into a gun store much in the way that a small child would. Any shop owner, no matter how virulently supportive of the Second Amendment, would refuse a sale to him because he's very clearly mentally incompetent and a bigger danger to himself and others than the targets. He frankly looks like the guy who would muzzle sweep everyone in the store or even practice aiming by pointing the gun at the clerk, then start trying to load his gun up and shove it down the front of his pants before he's even out the front door. So he'd need to seek out a black market dealer; even if he knew where to find one, he'd still need cash. AND a dealer who's willing to sell to a guy who looks like he'll accidentally shoot the dude who just sold him the weapon.

Or he can walk into Wal-Mart.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Errata on July 02, 2013, 03:22:57 pm
Oh god. THIS,FLESHLINGS! THIS! Behold: http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Magical_Man


Haha, yeah. That guy will probably remain one of the unsolved Chris mysteries.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: MadmanJohnson on July 02, 2013, 03:28:11 pm
Something's watching Chris.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 02, 2013, 06:21:55 pm
Or he can walk into Wal-Mart.

Buying a gun from Wal-Mart is no different. The store actually needs to get an FFL, which means the process is still the same and he'll likely still be denied a weapon there as well. Not to mention that many Wal-Marts have actually lost their license and only sell ammo and air guns.

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Haha, yeah. That guy will probably remain one of the unsolved Chris mysteries.

I don't remember exactly who he is, but we got some info on him before and he's nobody special. It was a guy who happened to be a local and know Chris who managed to get trusted all the way to the point where Chris let him in his room. He decided that he didn't want to be part of the trolling scene any more and left.

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Speaking of the car incident, that's one thing to consider. Yes, Chris is unstable, and there are those of us who worry what if he goes too far, what if he hurts somebody. But the incident with the car is the one example we have of him attempting to hurt someone.

It failed. He did gave Snyder some bruises, but ultimately, didn't do any lasting damage to anyone or thing so far as I know. And here's why I think. Chris talks, but he doesn't have the capacity in him to go through with real harm even at his most angry moment. If he had Snyder in his sight with his car, he'd hit the breaks or swerve. Hell, it sounds like he did just that. Because again, Chris fears authority, and he knows it's something he can't control.

If Chris had a gun, he wouldn't have it in him to spray up the Game Place because he'd be afraid to. If Chris could use a knife against anyone but a coma victim, he wouldn't have it in him to try because he'd be afraid.

This is the guy who stuffed his bed full of toys and hid under the pillows on his couch one night because someone told him a troll was going to come to his house and kill him. He's the one who runs from mall cops like it's the Bourne Identity. Yes, Chris has plenty of capacity in him to WANT to hurt people and to WISH people be hurt or killed. But nothing I've seen convinces me he has it in him to do it himself. The mix of laziness, fear, and his own weird world view won't allow it.

I may be proven wrong one day, but I just can't imagine a mix of situations that would allow Chris to overcome all of the barriers between him and physical violence to do lasting damage to someone.

This is true, but Chris also tends to act without thinking and could potentially move on momentum. It doesn't take much for a car impact to seriously hurt or kill someone, meaning Chris probably didn't even step on the gas pedal when he hit Snyder (since according to the court discussion of facts from the two girls who attended, he wasn't even knocked over until his mother hit him). But if he did, he could have broken bones or even run right over the guy in less than a second.

That's what leads to Chris being more dangerous than people would expect: he's a coward, but he also doesn't think. He panics and flees or tries to apologize as soon as he's realized that he's in trouble, but he'll still antagonize or make threatening motions toward others as long as he thinks he can get away with it. He may take his attempted threats and blind confidence too far one day.

Another thing we've seen with his driving, which I discussed often on the CWCki board, is that his behavior is sometimes downright animalistic. When in a panic, he operates on blind instinct. He's nearly hit people (including Snyder) with his car multiple times in the past, and accounts of the events seem to imply that he wasn't doing so intentionally. It's just that his brain wasn't considering anything but "fight or flight", and he was simply trying to escape danger as fast as possible. There's likely been at least a few other times we haven't heard about where he narrowly avoided hitting people or other cars and buildings (we do know that he ran from mall security, a chase that continued all the way to his car, shortly before getting banned from the mall again). Chris and cars are a very dangerous combination.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: MadmanJohnson on July 02, 2013, 07:25:29 pm
I'd be more worried about that zombie dog and ghost boy than Chris getting a gun.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: SpaceProg on July 02, 2013, 07:36:44 pm
Y'all had to pique my interest in the CWCki, didn't you?  I can't stop reading now.  Like being stuck in a continuity loop in the Tropes website.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 03, 2013, 11:55:45 am
I've got to say, I think he's a perfect example of our society. If anyone does anything remotely interesting, we'll put a focus on them and give them fifteen minutes of fame. Additionally, everyone wants to get those fifteen minutes, and will do anything to get them. I see Chris-chan in the same vein I see Sixteen and Pregnant and Jersey Shore. They'll do anything to have the camera on them, to not be nobodies. It's the "hey, look at me" culture that leads to people getting injured and putting it on Youtube. It's the reason Jackass exists. We're laughing at them, not with them, but they don't care, because we're seeing them. We've done the same with Chris-chan. He's a moron, so we put the spotlight on him, and focus on him. Everyone wants to be a celebrity, these days, and with our technology, everyone can be. All you have to do is put a GIF of a cat in space to a Vocaloid song or get hit in the nuts or create a terrifyingly horrible webcomic to become famous.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 03, 2013, 04:42:13 pm
I've got to say, I think he's a perfect example of our society. If anyone does anything remotely interesting, we'll put a focus on them and give them fifteen minutes of fame. Additionally, everyone wants to get those fifteen minutes, and will do anything to get them. I see Chris-chan in the same vein I see Sixteen and Pregnant and Jersey Shore. They'll do anything to have the camera on them, to not be nobodies. It's the "hey, look at me" culture that leads to people getting injured and putting it on Youtube. It's the reason Jackass exists. We're laughing at them, not with them, but they don't care, because we're seeing them. We've done the same with Chris-chan. He's a moron, so we put the spotlight on him, and focus on him. Everyone wants to be a celebrity, these days, and with our technology, everyone can be. All you have to do is put a GIF of a cat in space to a Vocaloid song or get hit in the nuts or create a terrifyingly horrible webcomic to become famous.

You're sort of correct. But Chris doesn't really know what he wants, because he mostly lives in the moment. One of the reasons he was always so easy to trick is because he never really thinks about anything long term, and he barely even considers what we would call short term. If he saw something he liked and wanted, he'd go and get it. This is what ends up causing his impulsive shopping sprees, to the point of buying DLC for unowned games. It's also what led to him stealing money and credit cards from his parents to make more purchases or signing up for new cards at places like Best Buy that he promptly maxed out: he never considered any kind of consequences or long-term planning, because he decided that he wanted it now.

That's also what made him so gullible: you could lead him by the nose, especially if you were a pretty girl (or at least he thought you were), because he'd just blindly follow your offers and do whatever he could to try and grab the carrot hanging just out of reach.

I don't think he wants fame, though. Not as much as he wants a fight, so to speak. He has a severe persecution complex from being raised to believe that everyone is out to get him. At the same time, he's utterly valueless: outside of his antics, he has literally no value to the world. If he were to disappear completely, life would go on. Nobody but the internet folk who made him infamous in the first place give a damn about him except maybe his mother (and people are still on the fence as to how much she truly loves him as opposed to wanting to essentially treat him like a large, especially messy cat). If Chris dies tomorrow, nothing of note will have really happened. Hell, he stays silent for so long online out of fear that it could take us a while to find out that he actually died. None of us could say the same thing, as we all have family and friends who care about us. Not Chris.

With someone like Chris, he needs to find something to give him a purpose to his life. He's too lazy to actually work for anything, so that puts a job or any kind of cause that takes more effort than sitting around McDonalds for half an hour out of the picture. And in his warped mind, raised on children's cartoons and video games, he views his fight with the trolls as a sort of ultimate battle between good and evil, light and dark. Fighting the trolls, even though it's a fruitless battle and many have tried to tell him that, gives him some kind of purpose in life. It makes him feel like he's accomplishing something.

The attention he got for his antics was a side effect, but even then he continuously recorded himself and put out his personal information less out of a desire for attention and more because he's an idiot with no clue about social cues. He really is the kind of guy who (thanks to a mixture of autism and ridiculously poor parenting) will put a public video on Youtube directed toward a single person, and will even tell people at the beginning that a video is only meant to be seen by select people in the first place despite being publicly available. He handed out personal information like candy because he thought it was a good way to prove that he was who he said he was (back in the Liquid Chris era of impersonation).
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Itachirumon on July 03, 2013, 04:48:47 pm
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All you have to do is put a GIF of a cat in space to a Vocaloid song

Can it be something with a chibi Len? I loves me the Kagamine brother.

...Oh dear, I seem to have gotten distracted by fantasy... at least it's better than having to think about the fact that Chris-chan looked even slightly close to how I look when he was about 10 years younger. Or the fact that I tend to write a bit of self-insert when I do write. For me he's.... this really disturbing example of the internet I don't ever want to be compared to on an even cursory level and the thought I might makes my skin crawl.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 03, 2013, 05:00:21 pm
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All you have to do is put a GIF of a cat in space to a Vocaloid song

Can it be something with a chibi Len? I loves me the Kagamine brother.

...Oh dear, I seem to have gotten distracted by fantasy... at least it's better than having to think about the fact that Chris-chan looked even slightly close to how I look when he was about 10 years younger. Or the fact that I tend to write a bit of self-insert when I do write. For me he's.... this really disturbing example of the internet I don't ever want to be compared to on an even cursory level and the thought I might makes my skin crawl.
I highly doubt you'll ever be that bad. Also, the "GIF of a cat in space" comment was a Nyan Cat joke. No, seriously, it's a Vocaloid song.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Itachirumon on July 03, 2013, 06:09:43 pm
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All you have to do is put a GIF of a cat in space to a Vocaloid song

Can it be something with a chibi Len? I loves me the Kagamine brother.

...Oh dear, I seem to have gotten distracted by fantasy... at least it's better than having to think about the fact that Chris-chan looked even slightly close to how I look when he was about 10 years younger. Or the fact that I tend to write a bit of self-insert when I do write. For me he's.... this really disturbing example of the internet I don't ever want to be compared to on an even cursory level and the thought I might makes my skin crawl.
I highly doubt you'll ever be that bad. Also, the "GIF of a cat in space" comment was a Nyan Cat joke. No, seriously, it's a Vocaloid song.

Well I do contribute to society even if I'm stark-effin-bonkers...its the thought that makes me uncomfortable as hell partly because it's so very wrong.

Aldo....I knew that about Nyan-cat...who says I didn't? -looks around suspiciously-
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Errata on July 04, 2013, 06:15:38 pm
I read through the "Kacey's Father Call" and it really is impossible to summarize how impervious to change Chris is when it comes to himself. I mean, he was dressed down by a figure basically emblematic of both all that Chris isn't and all that he likes to believe he is. How did it affect him? To this day, he still believes he's only one Facebook post calling all women in the area to make out with him away from finding a partner that will fill all his needs without any work from him.

We can theorize and explain and summarize and categorize everything about him, but Chris himself is simply without precedent.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 04, 2013, 06:39:07 pm
I read through the "Kacey's Father Call" and it really is impossible to summarize how impervious to change Chris is when it comes to himself. I mean, he was dressed down by a figure basically emblematic of both all that Chris isn't and all that he likes to believe he is. How did it affect him? To this day, he still believes he's only one Facebook post calling all women in the area to make out with him away from finding a partner that will fill all his needs without any work from him.

We can theorize and explain and summarize and categorize everything about him, but Chris himself is simply without precedent.
Read into the Liquid Chris thing, it's related to that, and damn is it weird. Kacey herself may or may not have been a troll the entire time, alongside Liquid Chris. Ironically, the world has given CWC his reality, a giant conspiracy against him.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: MadmanJohnson on July 04, 2013, 06:50:12 pm
If there's a Liquid and Solid Chris, Then who's Solidus?
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 04, 2013, 06:58:38 pm
I've got to say, I think he's a perfect example of our society. If anyone does anything remotely interesting, we'll put a focus on them and give them fifteen minutes of fame. Additionally, everyone wants to get those fifteen minutes, and will do anything to get them. I see Chris-chan in the same vein I see Sixteen and Pregnant and Jersey Shore. They'll do anything to have the camera on them, to not be nobodies. It's the "hey, look at me" culture that leads to people getting injured and putting it on Youtube. It's the reason Jackass exists. We're laughing at them, not with them, but they don't care, because we're seeing them. We've done the same with Chris-chan. He's a moron, so we put the spotlight on him, and focus on him. Everyone wants to be a celebrity, these days, and with our technology, everyone can be. All you have to do is put a GIF of a cat in space to a Vocaloid song or get hit in the nuts or create a terrifyingly horrible webcomic to become famous.

You're sort of correct. But Chris doesn't really know what he wants, because he mostly lives in the moment. One of the reasons he was always so easy to trick is because he never really thinks about anything long term, and he barely even considers what we would call short term. If he saw something he liked and wanted, he'd go and get it. This is what ends up causing his impulsive shopping sprees, to the point of buying DLC for unowned games. It's also what led to him stealing money and credit cards from his parents to make more purchases or signing up for new cards at places like Best Buy that he promptly maxed out: he never considered any kind of consequences or long-term planning, because he decided that he wanted it now.

That's also what made him so gullible: you could lead him by the nose, especially if you were a pretty girl (or at least he thought you were), because he'd just blindly follow your offers and do whatever he could to try and grab the carrot hanging just out of reach.

I don't think he wants fame, though. Not as much as he wants a fight, so to speak. He has a severe persecution complex from being raised to believe that everyone is out to get him. At the same time, he's utterly valueless: outside of his antics, he has literally no value to the world. If he were to disappear completely, life would go on. Nobody but the internet folk who made him infamous in the first place give a damn about him except maybe his mother (and people are still on the fence as to how much she truly loves him as opposed to wanting to essentially treat him like a large, especially messy cat). If Chris dies tomorrow, nothing of note will have really happened. Hell, he stays silent for so long online out of fear that it could take us a while to find out that he actually died. None of us could say the same thing, as we all have family and friends who care about us. Not Chris.

With someone like Chris, he needs to find something to give him a purpose to his life. He's too lazy to actually work for anything, so that puts a job or any kind of cause that takes more effort than sitting around McDonalds for half an hour out of the picture. And in his warped mind, raised on children's cartoons and video games, he views his fight with the trolls as a sort of ultimate battle between good and evil, light and dark. Fighting the trolls, even though it's a fruitless battle and many have tried to tell him that, gives him some kind of purpose in life. It makes him feel like he's accomplishing something.

The attention he got for his antics was a side effect, but even then he continuously recorded himself and put out his personal information less out of a desire for attention and more because he's an idiot with no clue about social cues. He really is the kind of guy who (thanks to a mixture of autism and ridiculously poor parenting) will put a public video on Youtube directed toward a single person, and will even tell people at the beginning that a video is only meant to be seen by select people in the first place despite being publicly available. He handed out personal information like candy because he thought it was a good way to prove that he was who he said he was (back in the Liquid Chris era of impersonation).
Sorry, just saw this post. While I mostly agree, I have to argue, he wanted to be famous. He thinks he is. He thinks he's a highly important person, and he thought Sonichu was majorly important, mattered, and most of all, he wanted it to. If he didn't want to be famous, he never would have put his comics online or made videos, or started this at all. He thinks he matters. He thinks he's the protagonist of a thriller movie, where everyone is plotting against him. Sure, he's an idiot, but he wanted to be loved and respected. He's a autistic, horribly raised, attention whore who brought down the wrath of The Internet.

If there's a Liquid and Solid Chris, Then who's Solidus?
I don't think we want to know. Do we really need an older, more experienced, likely evil or at least severely misguided Chris-chan? Well, he's already evil and severely misguided, so, maybe Solidus Chris would be the inverse. Idk. Either way, I don't wanna know, but good joke.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: MadmanJohnson on July 04, 2013, 07:08:36 pm
You know, A evil competent Chris would be awesome.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 04, 2013, 08:12:24 pm
You know, A evil competent Chris would be awesome.
No, it would be scary. Chris thinks the entire world is out to get him. Imagine if he was evil, and competent. He tried to run a guy over for banning him from a store.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Errata on July 04, 2013, 11:03:37 pm
If he were competent, he wouldn't be Chris. That's like saying, "Imagine if John Lennon had been a monkey." Total disconnect.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 04, 2013, 11:07:47 pm
If he were competent, he wouldn't be Chris. That's like saying, "Imagine if John Lennon had been a monkey." Total disconnect.
Well, what if John Lennon had been a hyper-intelligent monkey that grew up in a universe identical to ours, but everyone was monkies, and he fell into another one without John Lennon on John Lennon's 18th birthday, but first fell through a universe where he got hologram technology and made himself look like human John Lennon, and so he looked human, and nothing in monkey Lennon with holograms but otherwise everyone else human universe went differently? He'd still be John Lennon.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Itachirumon on July 05, 2013, 01:01:08 am
If he were competent, he wouldn't be Chris. That's like saying, "Imagine if John Lennon had been a monkey." Total disconnect.
Well, what if John Lennon had been a hyper-intelligent monkey that grew up in a universe identical to ours, but everyone was monkies, and he fell into another one without John Lennon on John Lennon's 18th birthday, but first fell through a universe where he got hologram technology and made himself look like human John Lennon, and so he looked human, and nothing in monkey Lennon with holograms but otherwise everyone else human universe went differently? He'd still be John Lennon.

Does that imply Hologram Monkey Lennon is still alive? I mean that shit-for-brains shot him in the arm and chest, much higher up than a monkey body would reach. So he....faked his death with the hologram and is still alive out there somewhere getting into monkey shenanigans?

.....I like your reality, let's live there.

Also I guess the only thing Chris-chan can do is get evil-er and smarter, he sure as fuck can't get stupider or much uglier.

.....God, one of the reasons it took me so long to join any kind of dating site or something or look around for single people was cause every single time I thought about it it felt like I was holding up a giant Chris-chan sign and I felt so sick with myself I'd rather stay in my hi-tech cave.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 05, 2013, 03:06:22 am
If he were competent, he wouldn't be Chris. That's like saying, "Imagine if John Lennon had been a monkey." Total disconnect.
Well, what if John Lennon had been a hyper-intelligent monkey that grew up in a universe identical to ours, but everyone was monkies, and he fell into another one without John Lennon on John Lennon's 18th birthday, but first fell through a universe where he got hologram technology and made himself look like human John Lennon, and so he looked human, and nothing in monkey Lennon with holograms but otherwise everyone else human universe went differently? He'd still be John Lennon.

Does that imply Hologram Monkey Lennon is still alive? I mean that shit-for-brains shot him in the arm and chest, much higher up than a monkey body would reach. So he....faked his death with the hologram and is still alive out there somewhere getting into monkey shenanigans?

.....I like your reality, let's live there.

Also I guess the only thing Chris-chan can do is get evil-er and smarter, he sure as fuck can't get stupider or much uglier.

.....God, one of the reasons it took me so long to join any kind of dating site or something or look around for single people was cause every single time I thought about it it felt like I was holding up a giant Chris-chan sign and I felt so sick with myself I'd rather stay in my hi-tech cave.
Yeppers ^_^ But, just imagine Monkey John and still human Yoko. Sorry, but had to spread the pain. And, I know that feeling. I haven't made one due to my current situation being weird but pretty good, but that's always how I've felt about online dating, and really only the "Nice Guys of OKCupid" thread changed that after seeing how many members here had a profile there.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Itachirumon on July 05, 2013, 03:57:42 am
I have one too, although hearing about how jackasses ruined the Fedora...I may have changed my mind about wanting to get one.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: SpaceProg on July 05, 2013, 07:54:27 am
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All you have to do is put a GIF of a cat in space to a Vocaloid song

Can it be something with a chibi Len? I loves me the Kagamine brother.

...Oh dear, I seem to have gotten distracted by fantasy... at least it's better than having to think about the fact that Chris-chan looked even slightly close to how I look when he was about 10 years younger. Or the fact that I tend to write a bit of self-insert when I do write. For me he's.... this really disturbing example of the internet I don't ever want to be compared to on an even cursory level and the thought I might makes my skin crawl.

Self-insertion is like masturbation for writers.  Everyone does it.  In some way or to some extent, at least.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 05, 2013, 10:31:20 am
I'd like to think the best writers always put at least a little bit of themselves into the things they write.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 05, 2013, 11:05:10 am
I'd like to think the best writers always put at least a little bit of themselves into the things they write.
Hopefully the best chefs do not.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Art Vandelay on July 05, 2013, 11:13:04 am
I'd like to think the best writers always put at least a little bit of themselves into the things they write.
Hopefully the best chefs do not.
Same goes for the best surgeons.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: MadmanJohnson on July 05, 2013, 04:11:49 pm
@Itachirumon
But Linkara has a fedora!
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 05, 2013, 09:06:38 pm
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Sorry, just saw this post. While I mostly agree, I have to argue, he wanted to be famous. He thinks he is. He thinks he's a highly important person, and he thought Sonichu was majorly important, mattered, and most of all, he wanted it to. If he didn't want to be famous, he never would have put his comics online or made videos, or started this at all. He thinks he matters. He thinks he's the protagonist of a thriller movie, where everyone is plotting against him. Sure, he's an idiot, but he wanted to be loved and respected. He's a autistic, horribly raised, attention whore who brought down the wrath of The Internet.

Chris USED to think he's famous. Not any more. He long believed that he had literally billions of fans, but reality gradually sets in with him. Never anything that would encourage him to change, of course, but he's aware by now that he's not popular. He's switched his delusional popularity for delusional fear.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 06, 2013, 12:54:05 am
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Sorry, just saw this post. While I mostly agree, I have to argue, he wanted to be famous. He thinks he is. He thinks he's a highly important person, and he thought Sonichu was majorly important, mattered, and most of all, he wanted it to. If he didn't want to be famous, he never would have put his comics online or made videos, or started this at all. He thinks he matters. He thinks he's the protagonist of a thriller movie, where everyone is plotting against him. Sure, he's an idiot, but he wanted to be loved and respected. He's a autistic, horribly raised, attention whore who brought down the wrath of The Internet.

Chris USED to think he's famous. Not any more. He long believed that he had literally billions of fans, but reality gradually sets in with him. Never anything that would encourage him to change, of course, but he's aware by now that he's not popular. He's switched his delusional popularity for delusional fear.
Ahh. I guess the internet beat that out of him. So, now he's gone from another celebrity dreamer to the a fucked up, useless, helpless survivalist type. Quoth The Joker: "It'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic. Oh what the heck, I'll laugh anyways! HAHHAHAHAHAHAH!"
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 06, 2013, 01:09:14 am
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Sorry, just saw this post. While I mostly agree, I have to argue, he wanted to be famous. He thinks he is. He thinks he's a highly important person, and he thought Sonichu was majorly important, mattered, and most of all, he wanted it to. If he didn't want to be famous, he never would have put his comics online or made videos, or started this at all. He thinks he matters. He thinks he's the protagonist of a thriller movie, where everyone is plotting against him. Sure, he's an idiot, but he wanted to be loved and respected. He's a autistic, horribly raised, attention whore who brought down the wrath of The Internet.

Chris USED to think he's famous. Not any more. He long believed that he had literally billions of fans, but reality gradually sets in with him. Never anything that would encourage him to change, of course, but he's aware by now that he's not popular. He's switched his delusional popularity for delusional fear.
Ahh. I guess the internet beat that out of him. So, now he's gone from another celebrity dreamer to the a fucked up, useless, helpless survivalist type. Quoth The Joker: "It'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic. Oh what the heck, I'll laugh anyways! HAHHAHAHAHAHAH!"

Sort of. He's too much of a terrified wreck and manchild to be a "survivalist", so he mostly just sits around the house or McDonalds.

The thing is, he really IS lonely and wants friends. He wants to be able to go out and do things and pick up chicks. But his mother is a major force in his life (because she is both the woman who lets him do so much that he wants to do and she is the one who can punish him if he does wrong, because he's still mentally 12), and she's recently been keeping a tight leash on him. She'll call him if he's ever gone longer than he states he'll be, even by a few minutes.

Once she dies, if he doesn't have a breakdown of epic proportions, he'll likely start going out more. Which is a terrifying thought.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 06, 2013, 01:44:26 am
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Sorry, just saw this post. While I mostly agree, I have to argue, he wanted to be famous. He thinks he is. He thinks he's a highly important person, and he thought Sonichu was majorly important, mattered, and most of all, he wanted it to. If he didn't want to be famous, he never would have put his comics online or made videos, or started this at all. He thinks he matters. He thinks he's the protagonist of a thriller movie, where everyone is plotting against him. Sure, he's an idiot, but he wanted to be loved and respected. He's a autistic, horribly raised, attention whore who brought down the wrath of The Internet.

Chris USED to think he's famous. Not any more. He long believed that he had literally billions of fans, but reality gradually sets in with him. Never anything that would encourage him to change, of course, but he's aware by now that he's not popular. He's switched his delusional popularity for delusional fear.
Ahh. I guess the internet beat that out of him. So, now he's gone from another celebrity dreamer to the a fucked up, useless, helpless survivalist type. Quoth The Joker: "It'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic. Oh what the heck, I'll laugh anyways! HAHHAHAHAHAHAH!"

Sort of. He's too much of a terrified wreck and manchild to be a "survivalist", so he mostly just sits around the house or McDonalds.

The thing is, he really IS lonely and wants friends. He wants to be able to go out and do things and pick up chicks. But his mother is a major force in his life (because she is both the woman who lets him do so much that he wants to do and she is the one who can punish him if he does wrong, because he's still mentally 12), and she's recently been keeping a tight leash on him. She'll call him if he's ever gone longer than he states he'll be, even by a few minutes.

Once she dies, if he doesn't have a breakdown of epic proportions, he'll likely start going out more. Which is a terrifying thought.
That's my point. He thinks like a survivalist type, but can never be one. And, if he starts going out more, People of Wal-Mart will have a gallery.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: MadmanJohnson on July 06, 2013, 07:26:55 am
I just remembered that Chris has managed to enslave the mighty Megatron in gun mode. At the very least, He has a Walther P38.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Errata on July 09, 2013, 01:06:11 am
I just realized, Chris' probation ends tomorrow. Wonder how that'll go? I almost like to believe a year might have helped him learn a little self control... but Facebook proves otherwise.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 09, 2013, 01:55:00 am
I just realized, Chris' probation ends tomorrow. Wonder how that'll go? I almost like to believe a year might have helped him learn a little self control... but Facebook proves otherwise.

Absolutely not. Chris doesn't do enough in his life to violate probation in the first place. Not with his mother keeping him at home, at least.

I don't think he even noticed the Sword of Damocles hanging over his head.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 09, 2013, 08:16:34 am
I just remembered that Chris has managed to enslave the mighty Megatron in gun mode. At the very least, He has a Walther P38. Also, crappy ms paint art of Solidus Chris.
(http://Solidus Chris.png)
Um, the image didn't work. The text in the image field is "http://Solidus Chris.png".
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: MadmanJohnson on July 09, 2013, 09:28:56 am
Edited it out. Also, Chris better kill some people after his probation is over or do something!
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Errata on July 09, 2013, 11:06:38 am

Absolutely not. Chris doesn't do enough in his life to violate probation in the first place. Not with his mother keeping him at home, at least.

I don't think he even noticed the Sword of Damocles hanging over his head.

I think at this point it's a race between what will give first: Barb's health or Chris' last shreds of control. When Barb goes, Chris will follow soon after. He has no control over himself or his assets, no one to help him, and no one to stop him. He'll blow through his cash, rack up debt, lose everything, and most likely end up in an institution if he doesn't end up in one as soon as Barb drops. Or, he'll finally go too far and not even mommy will be able to keep him out of trouble. I don't expect Chris to ever face real jail time, but eventually he's going to prove to the bureaucratic structure that he can't be left to run around on his own.

This is assuming that house doesn't catch fire from all the junk piled in it and burn down.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 09, 2013, 02:33:02 pm

Absolutely not. Chris doesn't do enough in his life to violate probation in the first place. Not with his mother keeping him at home, at least.

I don't think he even noticed the Sword of Damocles hanging over his head.

I think at this point it's a race between what will give first: Barb's health or Chris' last shreds of control. When Barb goes, Chris will follow soon after. He has no control over himself or his assets, no one to help him, and no one to stop him. He'll blow through his cash, rack up debt, lose everything, and most likely end up in an institution if he doesn't end up in one as soon as Barb drops. Or, he'll finally go too far and not even mommy will be able to keep him out of trouble. I don't expect Chris to ever face real jail time, but eventually he's going to prove to the bureaucratic structure that he can't be left to run around on his own.

This is assuming that house doesn't catch fire from all the junk piled in it and burn down.

The house catching fire is a serious concern that should really be considered. So much trash is EXTREMELY dangerous, and I wouldn't be surprised if Barb and possibly Chris are killed in a fire. You know the mom ain't getting out of their quickly enough, and Chris may panic or not even realize that a fire is rapidly spreading around the lower levels until it's too late.

But yeah, Barb's death is the biggest worry most people have for Chris. She's the only one with any semblance of control over his life, but Chris is also used to Barb's influence. He's autistic and has a childlike view of the world in many respects, with his parents being one of them. He was devastated when Bob died, despite oftentimes seeming to despise him and his attempts to control his behavior. Barb is one of the very few people Chris could ever be said to care about (in his own warped way), and her death is simultaneously the moment when nobody will be around to take care of him even a little.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 09, 2013, 03:37:45 pm

Absolutely not. Chris doesn't do enough in his life to violate probation in the first place. Not with his mother keeping him at home, at least.

I don't think he even noticed the Sword of Damocles hanging over his head.

I think at this point it's a race between what will give first: Barb's health or Chris' last shreds of control. When Barb goes, Chris will follow soon after. He has no control over himself or his assets, no one to help him, and no one to stop him. He'll blow through his cash, rack up debt, lose everything, and most likely end up in an institution if he doesn't end up in one as soon as Barb drops. Or, he'll finally go too far and not even mommy will be able to keep him out of trouble. I don't expect Chris to ever face real jail time, but eventually he's going to prove to the bureaucratic structure that he can't be left to run around on his own.

This is assuming that house doesn't catch fire from all the junk piled in it and burn down.

The house catching fire is a serious concern that should really be considered. So much trash is EXTREMELY dangerous, and I wouldn't be surprised if Barb and possibly Chris are killed in a fire. You know the mom ain't getting out of their quickly enough, and Chris may panic or not even realize that a fire is rapidly spreading around the lower levels until it's too late.

But yeah, Barb's death is the biggest worry most people have for Chris. She's the only one with any semblance of control over his life, but Chris is also used to Barb's influence. He's autistic and has a childlike view of the world in many respects, with his parents being one of them. He was devastated when Bob died, despite oftentimes seeming to despise him and his attempts to control his behavior. Barb is one of the very few people Chris could ever be said to care about (in his own warped way), and her death is simultaneously the moment when nobody will be around to take care of him even a little.
So, I'm assuming the internet will document every moment of the breakdown. I wouldn't be surprised if his funeral is attended by tons of people though, because of how they were amused by him.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 09, 2013, 03:43:49 pm
So, I'm assuming the internet will document every moment of the breakdown. I wouldn't be surprised if his funeral is attended by tons of people though, because of how they were amused by him.

His funeral would likely have more trolls and internet documenters than relatives and friends, if he even gets a funeral in the first place (he has maybe half a dozen people that could be said to truly care about him, and one or two are likely to be dead before him unless something unfortunate happens). He barely communicates with his family.

But I'd be surprised if the internet would have much to document. Chris has very slowly realized that making his every move public is exactly what the trolls and peanut gallery want, and while he continues to do so on Facebook he keeps that private (though plenty of trolls have gotten access, they keep their content private for weeks or months to try and avoid getting caught in a burst of fear and friend list purging). What we'll be most likely to see is anything actually dangerous, like legit threats or plans of murder or property damage that the deep cover folks release just to try and get the warning out, or news articles about an arrest or violent incident.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 09, 2013, 03:48:59 pm
So, I'm assuming the internet will document every moment of the breakdown. I wouldn't be surprised if his funeral is attended by tons of people though, because of how they were amused by him.

His funeral would likely have more trolls and internet documenters than relatives and friends, if he even gets a funeral in the first place (he has maybe half a dozen people that could be said to truly care about him, and one or two are likely to be dead before him unless something unfortunate happens). He barely communicates with his family.

But I'd be surprised if the internet would have much to document. Chris has very slowly realized that making his every move public is exactly what the trolls and peanut gallery want, and while he continues to do so on Facebook he keeps that private (though plenty of trolls have gotten access, they keep their content private for weeks or months to try and avoid getting caught in a burst of fear and friend list purging). What we'll be most likely to see is anything actually dangerous, like legit threats or plans of murder or property damage that the deep cover folks release just to try and get the warning out, or news articles about an arrest or violent incident.
Good point, but I was talking about the trolls. I imagine they'd want to see him off at this point.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Radiation on July 09, 2013, 10:14:12 pm
I read through this wiki of his and I am fearful because I share some the of traits with him, other than the being obnoxious part. I am on government sustenance, I have characters that are Mary Sue versions of myself (and this is the reason I don't share it on the Internet, for fear of being ridiculed and harrassed.) I am a failure in life and I also admit that I am lazy but my apartment isn't as bad as Chris' house or otherwise I would have been evicted.

Reading about this guy made me feel my own inadequacies and how easily I could be the target of systematic harassment by online trolls and bullies.

That said, I feel bad for this guy. I really do and he had a shitty life. On one hand, I think that it was very wrong for the trolls to bully him but on the other, he brought this upon himself.

I really don't know what else to say.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: QueenofHearts on July 09, 2013, 10:55:29 pm
Generally, I think this is a case of "if you're worried about turning out like that, you won't." As Chit's been saying, a lot of CWC's negative traits stem from a shitty personality and an entitlement complex which are magnified by (not caused by) his aspergers.

ETA: If you're worried about turning out like him, you already have enough common sense not to.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 10, 2013, 12:54:26 am
Generally, I think this is a case of "if you're worried about turning out like that, you won't." As Chit's been saying, a lot of CWC's negative traits stem from a shitty personality and an entitlement complex which are magnified by (not caused by) his aspergers.

ETA: If you're worried about turning out like him, you already have enough common sense not to.

This is what I tell a lot of people. There were quite a few people on the CWCki forum who had some of Chris's flaws, mental problems, or economic disadvantages. What we always told them, as you said, was that the fact that you're worried about becoming like him is already a sign that you shouldn't worry that you ARE him.

Chris has autism, yes. He had shitty parenting, yes. But a lot of his problems are personality flaws, and poor parenting isn't much of an excuse for acting like a douchebag.

The people who end up like Chris are the ones who deny that they could EVER be like him.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Lithp on July 10, 2013, 02:39:08 am
Honestly, I think you're underestimating the situation, which is odd considering Chit's numerous disturbingly in-depth essays on Chris.

People post bad fan fiction on the internet all of the time. Very, very few are trolled as badly as Chris. Most just never get any views. The simple fact is, most self-identified trolls don't really have any skills besides convincing themselves that they're cooler than they really are. They flock to Chris because he's the lowest common denominator. Half of the time, you don't even have to DO anything, you can just read Sonichu & you'll get all manner of details about his personal life. You post those on his Wiki, he gets mad, he makes a bigger ass out of himself trying to counter what he initially wrote. The cycle continues indefinitely for easy infinite e-peen growth.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 10, 2013, 03:02:37 am
Honestly, I think you're underestimating the situation, which is odd considering Chit's numerous disturbingly in-depth essays on Chris.

People post bad fan fiction on the internet all of the time. Very, very few are trolled as badly as Chris. Most just never get any views. The simple fact is, most self-identified trolls don't really have any skills besides convincing themselves that they're cooler than they really are. They flock to Chris because he's the lowest common denominator. Half of the time, you don't even have to DO anything, you can just read Sonichu & you'll get all manner of details about his personal life. You post those on his Wiki, he gets mad, he makes a bigger ass out of himself trying to counter what he initially wrote. The cycle continues indefinitely for easy infinite e-peen growth.

What actually started the trolling in its current form, the form that changed Chris forever, was that he was just such a goddamn odd person with such immediately identifiable connection to Sonichu.

See, Chris doesn't have much of an identity. Most of us identify ourselves based on our personality, what we enjoy, who we love, things like that. Chris's identity is based on tangible things, a sort of caricature of himself. His red and blue striped shirt, for instance. Or where he went to school. One of the reasons he tended to give away so much personal information during the Liquid Chris saga was because he thought that by telling people things like his phone number and home address, he could prove his identity. Some even believe that he gave up the iconic clown shirts not because of changing tastes, but because he thought that it would make him less identifiable as Chris-Chan. It's much like how cartoon characters only have a few outfits in their closet; viewing Chris's personality through a comic or cartoon filter leads to much of him making much more sense.

Part of that identity is Sonichu. Sonichu the comic is the closest thing Chris has to any kind of accomplishment, and he legitimately thought that he could get fame and fortune through it (despite his unwillingness to actually put forth effort; he just figured he'd hand the property off to Nintendo or Sega or whatnot and get royalties). Sonichu was such a huge part of his identity that it was essentially part of him in a sense. Hence why he wore the medallion and talked about it any chance he got, or worked Sonichu into other works or projects whenever he could.

That's what led to the initial trolling: his connection. The first Sonichu bits and pieces show up on 4Chan, and people laughed their asses off. But because Chris had connected Sonichu so closely to his identity, many people who knew him in real life knew about the comic. So when a couple of GAMe PLACe regulars went on 4Chan and saw the Sonichu comics, they snapped a photo of him and uploaded it with some more explanation of who he was.

And so it began.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Lithp on July 10, 2013, 03:21:15 am
Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at. Not so much the part where he got photographed & posted in 4Chan, I didn't know that, but that Chris has general habits that make him the world's biggest troll bait. Connecting himself so heavily with Sonichu, & advertising it so openly, being 1 of them. I was just condensing the information down so as to get the point "risk of being trolled is greatly overblown" across quickly & efficiently, & also because I'm half asleep.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Clochette on July 10, 2013, 10:04:20 am
I read through this wiki of his and I am fearful because I share some the of traits with him, other than the being obnoxious part. I am on government sustenance, I have characters that are Mary Sue versions of myself (and this is the reason I don't share it on the Internet, for fear of being ridiculed and harrassed.) I am a failure in life and I also admit that I am lazy but my apartment isn't as bad as Chris' house or otherwise I would have been evicted.

Reading about this guy made me feel my own inadequacies and how easily I could be the target of systematic harassment by online trolls and bullies.

That said, I feel bad for this guy. I really do and he had a shitty life. On one hand, I think that it was very wrong for the trolls to bully him but on the other, he brought this upon himself.

I really don't know what else to say.

Chris isn't a bad person because he's autistic, or because he receives government benefits, or because he's never had a girlfriend, or because he lives with his mother at 31. It's his poor treatment of other people that makes him so abhorrent. If Chris was genuinely pleasant I don't think the trolls would have taken as much pleasure in tormenting him.

Generally, I think this is a case of "if you're worried about turning out like that, you won't." As Chit's been saying, a lot of CWC's negative traits stem from a shitty personality and an entitlement complex which are magnified by (not caused by) his aspergers.

ETA: If you're worried about turning out like him, you already have enough common sense not to.

He doesn't have Asperger's. He's high-functioning autistic. They differ in that high-functioning autistic children have difficulty with speech in their early years, while children with Asperger's develop normally.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 02:36:29 pm
I read through this wiki of his and I am fearful because I share some the of traits with him, other than the being obnoxious part. I am on government sustenance, I have characters that are Mary Sue versions of myself (and this is the reason I don't share it on the Internet, for fear of being ridiculed and harrassed.) I am a failure in life and I also admit that I am lazy but my apartment isn't as bad as Chris' house or otherwise I would have been evicted.

Reading about this guy made me feel my own inadequacies and how easily I could be the target of systematic harassment by online trolls and bullies.

That said, I feel bad for this guy. I really do and he had a shitty life. On one hand, I think that it was very wrong for the trolls to bully him but on the other, he brought this upon himself.

I really don't know what else to say.

Chris isn't a bad person because he's autistic, or because he receives government benefits, or because he's never had a girlfriend, or because he lives with his mother at 31. It's his poor treatment of other people that makes him so abhorrent. If Chris was genuinely pleasant I don't think the trolls would have taken as much pleasure in tormenting him.

Generally, I think this is a case of "if you're worried about turning out like that, you won't." As Chit's been saying, a lot of CWC's negative traits stem from a shitty personality and an entitlement complex which are magnified by (not caused by) his aspergers.

ETA: If you're worried about turning out like him, you already have enough common sense not to.

He doesn't have Asperger's. He's high-functioning autistic. They differ in that high-functioning autistic children have difficulty with speech in their early years, while children with Asperger's develop normally.
Actually, and I know this is a minor thing, he's had several girlfriends.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 10, 2013, 02:39:59 pm
Chris has had ZERO girlfriends.

Not kidding. Literally every "girlfriend" he's had has been a troll. Most of them haven't even been women in the first place, and the one who was actually met him I believe once at the mall and ended up fleeing. She claims to have gotten a skin rash after he touched her bare arm.

Either way, Chris has never had a girlfriend. Not even once. Megan was just a friend that he thought he could get with. All the others were trolls, mostly men or boys with fake pictures. He lost his virginity to a prostitute, and I'm not even making that up. He admitted it himself.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Itachirumon on July 10, 2013, 02:42:01 pm
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She claims to have gotten a skin rash after he touched her bare arm.

I think the squick from that just GAVE me a skin rash.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Clochette on July 10, 2013, 02:44:46 pm
Actually, and I know this is a minor thing, he's had several girlfriends.

Maybe in the very loosest sense of the word. All of his "girlfriends" were Manti Teo-style trolls and several of them were men posing as women.

The closest he's gotten to a relationship is hiring the services of a prostitute, who, as far as we know, was not a troll.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 02:46:26 pm
Chris has had ZERO girlfriends.

Not kidding. Literally every "girlfriend" he's had has been a troll. Most of them haven't even been women in the first place, and the one who was actually met him I believe once at the mall and ended up fleeing. She claims to have gotten a skin rash after he touched her bare arm.

Either way, Chris has never had a girlfriend. Not even once. Megan was just a friend that he thought he could get with. All the others were trolls, mostly men or boys with fake pictures. He lost his virginity to a prostitute, and I'm not even making that up. He admitted it himself.
What about Kacey? Unless her father was in on it, that's a LONG way to go for trolling.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 10, 2013, 02:48:21 pm
Chris has had ZERO girlfriends.

Not kidding. Literally every "girlfriend" he's had has been a troll. Most of them haven't even been women in the first place, and the one who was actually met him I believe once at the mall and ended up fleeing. She claims to have gotten a skin rash after he touched her bare arm.

Either way, Chris has never had a girlfriend. Not even once. Megan was just a friend that he thought he could get with. All the others were trolls, mostly men or boys with fake pictures. He lost his virginity to a prostitute, and I'm not even making that up. He admitted it himself.
What about Kacey? Unless her father was in on it, that's a LONG way to go for trolling.

That wasn't her father. That was a fellow troll.

You're.....really naive.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Clochette on July 10, 2013, 02:50:29 pm
Kacey was a real woman and apparently she and Liquid Chris are a couple in real life. But her romantic interest in Chris was feigned. And her "father" was in his 20s, tops.

True story: I met my husband through a Chris-chan forum and I know of one other serious couple who did as well. It's funny how someone so doomed in romance brings people together.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 02:54:54 pm
Chris has had ZERO girlfriends.

Not kidding. Literally every "girlfriend" he's had has been a troll. Most of them haven't even been women in the first place, and the one who was actually met him I believe once at the mall and ended up fleeing. She claims to have gotten a skin rash after he touched her bare arm.

Either way, Chris has never had a girlfriend. Not even once. Megan was just a friend that he thought he could get with. All the others were trolls, mostly men or boys with fake pictures. He lost his virginity to a prostitute, and I'm not even making that up. He admitted it himself.
What about Kacey? Unless her father was in on it, that's a LONG way to go for trolling.

That wasn't her father. That was a fellow troll.

You're.....really naive.
No, I just never heard that before. In a way, either way you look at it, it's cynical. Either they're all trolls, or somehow, this guy still would get dates. In other words, either way, it's just all bad.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Smilodon on July 10, 2013, 06:11:27 pm
Eh, Sonichu can't be any worse than Sonic the Hedgesponge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qcr-0c0klg
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Alehksunos on July 10, 2013, 06:18:23 pm
^ Is that that one person who drew various Sonic the Hedgehog characters as the cast of Spongebob Squarepants? Because the scary thing is that I actually remember that person.

...Except it had Tails as Spongebob and Sonic as Squidward. Yeah, that artist was that strange.

(I discovered her through another "Tartlet" Kirbyslover.)


Nevermind what I said.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Smilodon on July 10, 2013, 06:22:36 pm
^ Is that that one person who drew various Sonic the Hedgehog characters as the cast of Spongebob Squarepants? Because the scary thing is that I actually remember that person.

...Except it had Tails as Spongebob and Sonic as Squidward. Yeah, that artist was that strange.

(I discovered her through another "Tartlet" Kirbyslover.)


Nevermind what I said.

I got the name from another website (who drew a Sonic/Spongebob chimera type thing), the commercial was one I found a few years ago.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 10, 2013, 06:54:19 pm
Eh, Sonichu can't be any worse than Sonic the Hedgesponge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qcr-0c0klg

Sonichu is worse than that in every possible axis of comparison, and at least seven impossible ones.

Also, hedgehogs are adorable. I wants.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Morgenleoht on July 11, 2013, 01:36:06 am
That moment when you realise that Chris-Chan has his driver's licence and you never will.

*cries*
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 01:45:15 am
That moment when you realise that Chris-Chan has his driver's licence and you never will.

*cries*
Sorry. If it makes you feel better, you likely won't die alone.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Alehksunos on July 11, 2013, 01:46:28 am
That moment when you realise that Chris-Chan has his driver's licence and you never will.

*cries*

Don't feel bad. I'm reluctant to drive because I'm a nervous wreck on the road. I honestly feel like everybody on the highway is after me, and thanks to that delusion on the highway it makes learning to drive more discouraging.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Stormwarden on July 11, 2013, 03:09:06 am
In all honesty, I'm kind of surprised no one has brought up Alice Henriole (of Sonic Passion fame) yet. That was my first serious glimpse outside of shock videos of how fucked up the internet can be.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Alehksunos on July 11, 2013, 03:13:13 am
^ For those who don't want to Google her, explain her atrocities (in spoiler marks, please. That's what I would do).

And then I just thought of:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Itachirumon on July 11, 2013, 03:19:37 am
That moment when you realise that Chris-Chan has his driver's licence and you never will.

*cries*

I haven't gotten one yet either, I keep passing my learners permit, I've dropped about $500 on drivers training back in 08... for all intents and purposes, I CAN drive. Problem is some stupid shit rammed our truck back in 07 and in the process ripped off the front license plate, which we've yet to fix. Because of that I haven't been able to get the license with that car....as it would require repairs. Other options require me to spend $250 to rent a car from the drivers training people. Then I'd need help getting onto mom's insurance which we can't afford so....it just hasn't happened.

Long story short, don't feel bad.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Morgenleoht on July 11, 2013, 03:41:44 am
That moment when you realise that Chris-Chan has his driver's licence and you never will.

*cries*
Sorry. If it makes you feel better, you likely won't die alone.

I'm gray-asexual and aromantic. I probably will. :P
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Stormwarden on July 11, 2013, 03:59:15 am
This is the link I was shown a long time ago to familiarize myself to Alex Henriole. Be warned that it is not for the faint of heart, and that you should not click on this at work or in any public place. Should you lose your mind and attempt to summon an Elder God to end this world, I will not be responsible for the consequences:

http://www.sonic-online.com/sonicpassion/

In a nutshell, Alex Henriole is a self-proclaimed robophile. She is genuinely in love with Sawnik, and is more than interested in performing...vile sex acts on him. I don't see it myself..hard to like something that lacks genitalia, and streaks everywhere he goes.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: MadmanJohnson on July 12, 2013, 10:15:33 am
This is the link I was shown a long time ago to familiarize myself to Alex Henriole. Be warned that it is not for the faint of heart, and that you should not click on this at work or in any public place. Should you lose your mind and attempt to summon an Elder God to end this world, I will not be responsible for the consequences:

http://www.sonic-online.com/sonicpassion/

In a nutshell, Alex Henriole is a self-proclaimed robophile. She is genuinely in love with Sawnik, and is more than interested in performing...vile sex acts on him. I don't see it myself..hard to like something that lacks genitalia, and streaks everywhere he goes.
You call that scary? I've seen Garbage Pail Kids, what else you got?
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 13, 2013, 04:48:07 am
This is the link I was shown a long time ago to familiarize myself to Alex Henriole. Be warned that it is not for the faint of heart, and that you should not click on this at work or in any public place. Should you lose your mind and attempt to summon an Elder God to end this world, I will not be responsible for the consequences:

http://www.sonic-online.com/sonicpassion/

In a nutshell, Alex Henriole is a self-proclaimed robophile. She is genuinely in love with Sawnik, and is more than interested in performing...vile sex acts on him. I don't see it myself..hard to like something that lacks genitalia, and streaks everywhere he goes.
You call that scary? I've seen Garbage Pail Kids, what else you got?
Fandom insanity? How about Marilyn Manson's Slashers? Two teen girls, Jeanette Polard and Alison Duffy, who would cut out of love for Manson. Specifically, one would cut "Marilyn" in her chest, the other, "Manson". Here's their page on MansonWiki (http://www.mansonwiki.com/wiki/The_Slashers). Jeanette committed suicide in 2006, and Alison married Marilyn Manson's original personal assistant.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: MadmanJohnson on July 15, 2013, 01:41:21 pm
I've seen much worse. Bring on the sin and debauchery.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Errata on July 25, 2013, 04:09:59 pm
To put this thread back on track, I got to say, Chris has fallen to pieces over the past two years (more so than before anyway. Before it was into pieces, now even his atoms are dispersing).

He recently put up a picture on Facebook asking how good he looked and wow. It was bad. Wal-mart background, no effort in appearance, not even a smile. He was barely able to look at his own camera. The man looks like he's been beaten.

Chris has just given up. First he lost Megan (his fault), then he lost the Game Place (his fault), then he lost CWCville (partly because of trolls, but ultimately his fault since he was the one who kept playing along), then he lost his dad, then the court shenanigans (also his fault). Instead of learning anything, even one thing, from all that's happened, Chris has just thrown up his hands and given up. His persecution complex is so solidified that even putting effort into a self picture designed solely for trying to win some cheap compliments from someone, anyone, is too much for him.

I'm going to be amazed if Chris makes it to forty without significant changes to his life. I know an over-sixty cancer victim in better shape. The fact he's made it this far without a heartattack or turning into a four hundred pound blob seems impossible.

It's times like these I really want to feel bad for the guy. But how can I when 90% of the problems stem either entirely or in part from himself?
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 25, 2013, 05:39:41 pm
He did have a Facebook post that was kinda hilarious in how clueless he was.

"You know something that really creeps me out? Nearly Every Autistic male, who I have seen their photos in their profiles or whatever, that I can 100% guarantee that are not copies of mine, look near Exactly as I do in the Face (with exceptions to varying eye color, glasses and hair color/style). I mean it, seriously, look up any number of autistic male headshots other than me on the Internet; it is really spooky and creepy."
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Alehksunos on July 26, 2013, 06:59:57 pm
I'm still trying to comprehend what he tried to say in that Facebook quote, but one thing I know for sure is that I'm also an autistic male and I do not look like miles of torn-up tarmac.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 26, 2013, 08:20:12 pm
Could someone post the picture? Somehow, I doubt he'll see it here at the FSTDT forums.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Alehksunos on July 26, 2013, 08:37:25 pm
Oh, I wouldn't worry. I'm sure if he would have already taken offense at the fact that there is a damn thread about him and the people who got pissed at this site are almost always a bunch of bigots who take offense of criticism of their abhorrent beliefs.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 26, 2013, 09:26:35 pm
Could someone post the picture? Somehow, I doubt he'll see it here at the FSTDT forums.

I'll put it behind a spoiler tag. It....kinda needs it.

Just always picture what he used to look like.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 26, 2013, 09:30:51 pm
Could someone post the picture? Somehow, I doubt he'll see it here at the FSTDT forums.

I'll put it behind a spoiler tag. It....kinda needs it.

Just always picture what he used to look like.

(click to show/hide)
Wow. That's just depressing.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: niam2023 on July 28, 2013, 07:44:49 pm
He just looks...beaten.

Almost like an empty shell, just nothing left inside.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 29, 2013, 01:18:06 am
He just looks...beaten.

Almost like an empty shell, just nothing left inside.

The sad part? That's his regular look.

If you go back into past pictures, all the way back to the clown shirt era, he still has a nearly identical expression. He just naturally looks dead.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Søren on July 29, 2013, 10:37:07 am
I clicked on the spoiler, expecting that everybody was exaggerating.

Thats just..bad. Its all bad
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 29, 2013, 11:10:04 am
He just looks...beaten.

Almost like an empty shell, just nothing left inside.

The sad part? That's his regular look.

If you go back into past pictures, all the way back to the clown shirt era, he still has a nearly identical expression. He just naturally looks dead.
Yeah, but now all the CWCness looks beaten out of him. He doesn't even register as CWC, just some pathetic loser.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: JohnE on July 29, 2013, 11:38:55 am
Eh, I've seen worse at every sci-fi convention I've ever been to. (except Gallifrey One, those folks are cheerful and good-looking) In fact, he looks a lot like an old friend of mine, except with hair, and my friend smiles more.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Clochette on July 29, 2013, 12:14:56 pm
This was Chris-chan on his 25th birthday party.

(http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/thumb/2/21/0940-CWCsAppreaciation.JPG/800x600x800px-0940-CWCsAppreaciation.JPG.pagespeed.ic.ZZ_77EIhsA.jpg)

Even then he appeared unnaturally aged. The difference is that back then he was happy and had hope. 6 years later, life has kicked his ass so thoroughly he just has nothing to smile about.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Itachirumon on July 29, 2013, 01:45:59 pm
I could sympathize with the "life's kicked his ass so thoroughly he has nothing left to smile about" since I belong to that club myself.

.....But then I remember he brought it on himself and the fact that he's such a creepy-ass fuck, then I shiver at the thought that the marginal similarity connects us. Of course as one of the "good" people I suppose that I should be trumping the "we're all the same, happy happy joy joy, everybody is connected" schtick but he makes me want to not be a good person.


....'sides, evil has a better wardrobe designer.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 29, 2013, 02:01:12 pm
Yeah, the thing there is, he looks like CWC. The stupid clothing, the pendant, the shit like that.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Clochette on July 29, 2013, 02:16:14 pm
I could sympathize with the "life's kicked his ass so thoroughly he has nothing left to smile about" since I belong to that club myself.

.....But then I remember he brought it on himself and the fact that he's such a creepy-ass fuck, then I shiver at the thought that the marginal similarity connects us.

I think that's the real tragedy of it. That he and his parents fought tooth and nail against his own happiness. Instead of using his autism diagnosis to understand and help him, they used it to cripple him. It's like a Greek tragedy.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Itachirumon on July 29, 2013, 02:40:13 pm
I could sympathize with the "life's kicked his ass so thoroughly he has nothing left to smile about" since I belong to that club myself.

.....But then I remember he brought it on himself and the fact that he's such a creepy-ass fuck, then I shiver at the thought that the marginal similarity connects us.

I think that's the real tragedy of it. That he and his parents fought tooth and nail against his own happiness. Instead of using his autism diagnosis to understand and help him, they used it to cripple him. It's like a Greek tragedy.

....I'm resisting the urge to go for the low-hanging fruit and make a joke about what the name of that greek tragedy would be called...
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Clochette on July 29, 2013, 03:19:50 pm
I could sympathize with the "life's kicked his ass so thoroughly he has nothing left to smile about" since I belong to that club myself.

.....But then I remember he brought it on himself and the fact that he's such a creepy-ass fuck, then I shiver at the thought that the marginal similarity connects us.

I think that's the real tragedy of it. That he and his parents fought tooth and nail against his own happiness. Instead of using his autism diagnosis to understand and help him, they used it to cripple him. It's like a Greek tragedy.

....I'm resisting the urge to go for the low-hanging fruit and make a joke about what the name of that greek tragedy would be called...

If Shakespeare wrote it, it'd be called Romeo and JULAAAYet
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 29, 2013, 11:12:16 pm
I... I can't feel any animosity for him.

I just feel sorry for him.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Itachirumon on July 30, 2013, 06:35:25 pm
I could sympathize with the "life's kicked his ass so thoroughly he has nothing left to smile about" since I belong to that club myself.

.....But then I remember he brought it on himself and the fact that he's such a creepy-ass fuck, then I shiver at the thought that the marginal similarity connects us.

I think that's the real tragedy of it. That he and his parents fought tooth and nail against his own happiness. Instead of using his autism diagnosis to understand and help him, they used it to cripple him. It's like a Greek tragedy.

....I'm resisting the urge to go for the low-hanging fruit and make a joke about what the name of that greek tragedy would be called...

If Shakespeare wrote it, it'd be called Romeo and JULAAAYet

I was going to say....Aspercles/Asperclus............................Please, please don't kill me
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Morgenleoht on July 30, 2013, 07:37:34 pm
I could sympathize with the "life's kicked his ass so thoroughly he has nothing left to smile about" since I belong to that club myself.

.....But then I remember he brought it on himself and the fact that he's such a creepy-ass fuck, then I shiver at the thought that the marginal similarity connects us.

I think that's the real tragedy of it. That he and his parents fought tooth and nail against his own happiness. Instead of using his autism diagnosis to understand and help him, they used it to cripple him. It's like a Greek tragedy.

....I'm resisting the urge to go for the low-hanging fruit and make a joke about what the name of that greek tragedy would be called...

If Shakespeare wrote it, it'd be called Romeo and JULAAAYet

I was going to say....Aspercles/Asperclus............................Please, please don't kill me

I loled.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Ghoti on July 30, 2013, 08:47:34 pm
I really, really want to hate this guy ("gaybians"? WTF?), but I can't. From what I can tell, a lot of his bullshit isn't really his fault, and he looks so... dead inside. *shudder* That said, if I met him at a con/on the street/anywhere IRL, I would apperate to Neptune to get away from him. He's a grade-A creep and a world-class nutjob.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 30, 2013, 09:18:40 pm
I really, really want to hate this guy ("gaybians"? WTF?), but I can't. From what I can tell, a lot of his bullshit isn't really his fault, and he looks so... dead inside. *shudder* That said, if I met him at a con/on the street/anywhere IRL, I would apperate to Neptune to get away from him. He's a grade-A creep and a world-class nutjob.
Agreed. It's like, I'm going to go join Ziggy and Omēga in space, because I don't want to be on the same planet as him.
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: SpaceProg on July 30, 2013, 09:38:31 pm
I like that Major Tom lived. 
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Itachirumon on July 31, 2013, 09:50:26 am
I like that Major Tom lived. 

......I hate you, I really, really, hate you right now. It's stuck in my head, and it's going to be stuck there all week. If you're going to do that....eh? Hello, is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me... is there any-one ho-me?
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: SpaceProg on July 31, 2013, 01:46:33 pm
Aw... sorry.  I rather like that PF song though... Seeeee youuu on the daaark siiiide of the mooooon....
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: Askold on July 31, 2013, 01:52:31 pm
Come on guys, try to get along.

After all, we all live in a yellow submarine...
Title: Re: Sonichu Thread
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 31, 2013, 03:28:41 pm
No way. Not going to participate in this. No matter what you want.

Any way you want it, that's the way you need it. Not me.