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Title: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: LeTipex on March 12, 2013, 12:24:03 pm
This is glorious. Absolutely glorious. Kudos to the guy who got that idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA349R02oPM
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on March 12, 2013, 12:35:18 pm
Trolls trolling trolls? Oh god, I think a hole just opened in the space-time whatever.
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: Star Cluster on March 12, 2013, 12:52:35 pm
Shows you how much this made the news.  Don't know when this happened but it was 25 miles from where I live and this is the first I've heard about it.  Had no idea WBC was even in the area or why.
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: Morgenleoht on March 12, 2013, 02:31:49 pm
Ah, the Chasers.

I remember them. I miss them.
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on March 12, 2013, 03:16:41 pm
I prefer this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAeJC9_UWOQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4VotYtn2OU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isY1wsGcH9k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w35M8ViyNs
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on March 12, 2013, 03:36:35 pm
One more:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74LSy2QFpJI
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: ThunderWulf on March 12, 2013, 10:11:21 pm
The Chaser people are PRO real life trolls.
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: Barbarella on March 14, 2013, 10:33:58 am
This is glorious. Absolutely glorious. Kudos to the guy who got that idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA349R02oPM

This is actually a few years old but I agree....it's GENIUS!
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: mellenORL on March 14, 2013, 03:44:20 pm
Has Brick Stone been on The Daily Show or Colbert Report yet? He's perfect for them.
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: chitoryu12 on March 14, 2013, 09:55:09 pm
Best way to troll the WBC?

Legally declare them unconstitutional and ban them from picketing.
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on March 14, 2013, 11:11:33 pm
Best way to troll the WBC?

Legally declare them unconstitutional and ban them from picketing.
Or mockery. Mockery works.
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: chitoryu12 on March 14, 2013, 11:35:03 pm
Best way to troll the WBC?

Legally declare them unconstitutional and ban them from picketing.
Or mockery. Mockery works.

Mockery just makes them scream louder. Keeping them from harassing people is so much better.
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on March 14, 2013, 11:38:36 pm
Best way to troll the WBC?

Legally declare them unconstitutional and ban them from picketing.
Or mockery. Mockery works.

Mockery just makes them scream louder. Keeping them from harassing people is so much better.

My dad has a conspiracy theory that the Westboro Baptist Church are actually deep cover CIA agents that are trying to agitate people into getting rid of the First Amendment.
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: FirsthandTuna on March 14, 2013, 11:40:09 pm
Best way to troll the WBC?

Legally declare them unconstitutional and ban them from picketing.
Or mockery. Mockery works.

Mockery just makes them scream louder. Keeping them from harassing people is so much better.

My dad has a conspiracy theory that the Westboro Baptist Church are actually deep cover CIA agents that are trying to agitate people into getting rid of the First Amendment.

Wow. I'm a little surprised no-one in my family thought of this.
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on March 15, 2013, 12:33:18 am
Best way to troll the WBC?

Legally declare them unconstitutional and ban them from picketing.
Or mockery. Mockery works.

Mockery just makes them scream louder. Keeping them from harassing people is so much better.
Yes, I can see how eviscerating the First Amendment in the name of a small group of loons would be worth it.
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: ironbite on March 15, 2013, 01:14:01 am
Best way to troll the WBC?

Legally declare them unconstitutional and ban them from picketing.
Or mockery. Mockery works.

Mockery just makes them scream louder. Keeping them from harassing people is so much better.

My dad has a conspiracy theory that the Westboro Baptist Church are actually deep cover CIA agents that are trying to agitate people into getting rid of the First Amendment.

Your dad also listens to Ron Paul seriously

Ironbite-what I'm saying is...your dad is an idiot.
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 15, 2013, 01:15:58 am
Best way to troll the WBC?

Legally declare them unconstitutional and ban them from picketing.
Or mockery. Mockery works.

Mockery just makes them scream louder. Keeping them from harassing people is so much better.

My dad has a conspiracy theory that the Westboro Baptist Church are actually deep cover CIA agents that are trying to agitate people into getting rid of the First Amendment.

Your dad also listens to Ron Paul seriously

Ironbite-what I'm saying is...your dad is an idiot.

I think we knew this already.
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: chitoryu12 on March 15, 2013, 01:45:41 am
Best way to troll the WBC?

Legally declare them unconstitutional and ban them from picketing.
Or mockery. Mockery works.

Mockery just makes them scream louder. Keeping them from harassing people is so much better.
Yes, I can see how eviscerating the First Amendment in the name of a small group of loons would be worth it.

They're a hate group engaging in harassment of minorities and others. They're not in a legally nice position.
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: R. U. Sirius on March 15, 2013, 09:33:53 am
Best way to troll the WBC?

Legally declare them unconstitutional and ban them from picketing.
Or mockery. Mockery works.

Mockery just makes them scream louder. Keeping them from harassing people is so much better.
Yes, I can see how eviscerating the First Amendment in the name of a small group of loons would be worth it.

Unfortunately, there are large numbers of people on both sides of the political spectrum who could say what you just did with complete seriousness.

Not saying I BELIEVE the CIA-agent theory, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if it turned out to be true.
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on March 15, 2013, 09:42:29 am
Best way to troll the WBC?

Legally declare them unconstitutional and ban them from picketing.
Or mockery. Mockery works.

Mockery just makes them scream louder. Keeping them from harassing people is so much better.
Yes, I can see how eviscerating the First Amendment in the name of a small group of loons would be worth it.

They're a hate group engaging in harassment of minorities and others. They're not in a legally nice position.
It doesn't matter if they're a hate group and other people get offended by what they say--hate speech is protected speech.
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: DiscoBerry on March 23, 2013, 07:26:15 pm
The Chaser people are PRO real life trolls.

I love those guys too, this is my fav http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs3SfNANtig 3200 in the making
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: Askold on March 24, 2013, 05:09:43 am
It doesn't matter if they're a hate group and other people get offended by what they say--hate speech is protected speech.
Depends on the country. For example: Canada.
(http://www.filibustercartoons.com/comics/20130306.gif)
http://www.filibustercartoons.com/index.php/2013/03/06/playing-with-free-speech/

The cartoonist makes a nice comparison between the free speech laws in USA and Canada, that Canadian version specifically states that the civil rights are subject to “reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.”

Or like their supreme court said:
“Truthful statements can be presented in a manner that would meet the definition of hate speech, and not all truthful statements must be free from restriction...”

So not only can your "free speech" be limited if it offends someone, you can be forbidden from saying certain things that are "considered offensive" even if what you said is based on facts.

The examples used in the article actually are WBC and a similar attempt in Canada that got stopped pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on March 24, 2013, 10:42:08 am
I don't want to derail this with pony, but askold mentioned Canadian censorship.

http://thedeathsock.deviantart.com/journal/Rant-My-Little-Pony-on-Treehouse-TV-269751752

Haha.  They censor "loser" in Canada.  Hahahaha.  Ahahahaha.  Oh you silly Canadian bastards.  Anyway, carry on.
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: dpareja on March 24, 2013, 12:35:22 pm
I don't want to derail this with pony, but askold mentioned Canadian censorship.

http://thedeathsock.deviantart.com/journal/Rant-My-Little-Pony-on-Treehouse-TV-269751752

Haha.  They censor "loser" in Canada.  Hahahaha.  Ahahahaha.  Oh you silly Canadian bastards.  Anyway, carry on.

I think that has more to do with the target audience of the channel on which it's airing than anything else. If it were being aired on a channel pitched toward the initially intended audience of the show, I do not think that sort of censorship would be taking place.
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on March 24, 2013, 12:39:20 pm
I don't want to derail this with pony, but askold mentioned Canadian censorship.

http://thedeathsock.deviantart.com/journal/Rant-My-Little-Pony-on-Treehouse-TV-269751752

Haha.  They censor "loser" in Canada.  Hahahaha.  Ahahahaha.  Oh you silly Canadian bastards.  Anyway, carry on.

I think that has more to do with the target audience of the channel on which it's airing than anything else. If it were being aired on a channel pitched toward the initially intended audience of the show, I do not think that sort of censorship would be taking place.

You may be right.  It's still hilarious.
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on March 24, 2013, 12:54:45 pm
It doesn't matter if they're a hate group and other people get offended by what they say--hate speech is protected speech.
Depends on the country. For example: Canada.
I was, indeed, referring to the U.S. when I said that :)
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: Askold on March 24, 2013, 01:00:50 pm
It doesn't matter if they're a hate group and other people get offended by what they say--hate speech is protected speech.
Depends on the country. For example: Canada.
I was, indeed, referring to the U.S. when I said that :)
I know, other countries don't really matter unless the WBC decide to branch out. I just wanted to point out how differently countries deal with freedom of speech. Even a democratic and free country like Canada (the better north american country) limits the freedom of speech for what they see as good justifications... in this case for the sake of being nice.
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on March 24, 2013, 01:03:33 pm
It doesn't matter if they're a hate group and other people get offended by what they say--hate speech is protected speech.
Depends on the country. For example: Canada.
I was, indeed, referring to the U.S. when I said that :)
I know, other countries don't really matter unless the WBC decide to branch out. I just wanted to point out how differently countries deal with freedom of speech. Even a democratic and free country like Canada (the better north american country) limits the freedom of speech for what they see as good justifications... in this case for the sake of being nice.

"Better?"  Boy, you sure have a high opinion of them, don't ya.  They're just so much better than us lowly yanks, let me tell ya.
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: chitoryu12 on March 24, 2013, 01:44:48 pm
Quote
“Truthful statements can be presented in a manner that would meet the definition of hate speech, and not all truthful statements must be free from restriction...”

Wouldn't that only apply to the WBC if God really did hate fags?
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: Askold on March 24, 2013, 01:59:40 pm
Quote
“Truthful statements can be presented in a manner that would meet the definition of hate speech, and not all truthful statements must be free from restriction...”

Wouldn't that only apply to the WBC if God really did hate fags?
More like, if they bring out stuff like that homosexuals are more likely to commit suicide and claim that this is proof that God hates fags or something.

I guess, technically simply shouting at a gay person and calling him a fag would be:
a) factually true
b) hate speech if it is meant to be a hateful slur.
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: Canadian Mojo on March 24, 2013, 08:40:08 pm
"Better?"  Boy, you sure have a high opinion of them, don't ya.  They're just so much better than us lowly yanks, let me tell ya.
Is there any particular reason you are trying to start a fight you're going to lose?

Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on March 24, 2013, 09:45:20 pm
"Better?"  Boy, you sure have a high opinion of them, don't ya.  They're just so much better than us lowly yanks, let me tell ya.
Is there any particular reason you are trying to start a fight you're going to lose?
In fairness it did seem to be kind of a dick thing to say...
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: mellenORL on March 24, 2013, 11:23:38 pm
Oh, I dunno. They keep their lawn and garden so much nicer, and their kids do so well in school. And didn't Mr. Canada buy Mrs. Canada a new Ford? Can't complain aboot the neighbors, especially since they are ALL down here in Orlando for the winter :P.
Title: Re: Trolling the Westboro Baptist Church
Post by: chitoryu12 on March 25, 2013, 02:44:48 am
Can't complain aboot the neighbors, especially since they are ALL down here in Orlando for the winter :P.

You're tellin' me.