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Title: "I sent my daughter to a torture center. FEEL SORRY 4 MEEEEE!!!!!!"
Post by: I am lizard on March 25, 2016, 09:01:50 pm
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/mar/25/i-paid-to-have-my-daughter-kidnapped-experience (http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/mar/25/i-paid-to-have-my-daughter-kidnapped-experience)
Title: Re: "I sent my daughter to a torture center. FEEL SORRY 4 MEEEEE!!!!!!"
Post by: Even Then on March 25, 2016, 09:19:55 pm
It's evil filth like this thing that make me believe all prospective parents should pass rigorous mental and psychological evaluations. KILL. TORTURE. TEAR TO SHREDS.
Title: Re: "I sent my daughter to a torture center. FEEL SORRY 4 MEEEEE!!!!!!"
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 25, 2016, 09:37:48 pm
If I met this woman in public, I'm not sure I could restrain myself from yelling at her.  At the very least.
Title: Re: "I sent my daughter to a torture center. FEEL SORRY 4 MEEEEE!!!!!!"
Post by: Damen on March 25, 2016, 10:07:08 pm
Every time I read about shit like this, I always want to be down the block with an SR-25 when the thugs are dragging the kid out to the van. I don't think these places will be in business for long when their hired goons' heads start exploding.

Then my rational mind kicks back in and I just start seething for the rest of the day.
Title: Re: "I sent my daughter to a torture center. FEEL SORRY 4 MEEEEE!!!!!!"
Post by: Belloc on March 26, 2016, 12:13:24 am
Reprehensible. What sickens me is that this woman has not even the fortitude to fully admit that her action was immoral. Were she to say she took an immoral but necessary action for her daughter's sake, I would pity her. As it stands, I despise her. I do not like this.
Title: Re: "I sent my daughter to a torture center. FEEL SORRY 4 MEEEEE!!!!!!"
Post by: I am lizard on March 26, 2016, 12:27:39 am
Every time I read about shit like this, I always want to be down the block with an SR-25 when the thugs are dragging the kid out to the van. I don't think these places will be in business for long when their hired goons' heads start exploding.

Then my rational mind kicks back in and I just start seething for the rest of the day.
No, I think that's a good idea.
Title: Re: "I sent my daughter to a torture center. FEEL SORRY 4 MEEEEE!!!!!!"
Post by: niam2023 on March 26, 2016, 04:47:27 am
This creature deserves to have its fingernails pulled off and vinegar poured on the zips for days upon days on end.

Let alone never being allowed near children again.
Title: Re: "I sent my daughter to a torture center. FEEL SORRY 4 MEEEEE!!!!!!"
Post by: pyro on March 26, 2016, 02:00:20 pm
That's a nice atheist factory they're running. (https://m.soundcloud.com/crackedpod/my-mom-sent-me-to-a-teen-rehab-camp-to-be-abused)
Title: Re: "I sent my daughter to a torture center. FEEL SORRY 4 MEEEEE!!!!!!"
Post by: Even Then on March 26, 2016, 02:20:17 pm
Oh, and for an extra kick in the dick, you can get sent to the facility if you're suicidal.

What's that? You hate yourself? Well, we're going to send you to a place where you're mentally abused, where you're not allowed to bathe and you don't even get a goddamn roof over your head! That'll learn ya!

AND THE DAUGHTER WAS SENT THERE FOR DARING TO HAVE MOTIVATION ISSUES IN SCHOOL AND NOT GET STRAIGHT A'S. SHE WAS SENT TO A GODDAMN PRISONER CAMP FOR NOT PERFORMING PERFECTLY. AND THE MOTHER FIRST WENT THROUGH WITH FUNDING HER STUDIES (WHEN SHE COULD'VE FUCKING WELL JUST NOT DONE THAT AND THAT WOULD'VE FUCKING SOLVED IT), THEN DID THIS.

And the comment section is defending her.

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I don't agree at all.

If the kids concerned thought later in life their mother did the wrong thing they would have it out with her.

I don't know exactly what happened but my guess is she probably met some loser or other who thinks exactly the same way as you - probably does drugs - whilst on the way to the bottom they probably wanted to take someone with prospects with them.

Trauma ? I would say drugs and the police count for nothing ?

She had EVERY MORAL RIGHT as a mother... seen my sister almost destroyed by a drugged up loser... wish we had the chance to change her rather than see her put herself through years of misery.

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If by "mental trauma" you mean self-reliance and discipline, then I totally agree.

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This is a private family matter and you people have no right to intrude.

MURDER. LONG, DRAWN-OUT MURDER AND DESTRUCTION OF EVERYTHING THAT GIVES HER JOY. AND THESE PEOPLE TOO.

EDIT: I am perfectly aware that this is just my irrational rage talking. I know that. I know that such measures wouldn't be just.
Title: Re: "I sent my daughter to a torture center. FEEL SORRY 4 MEEEEE!!!!!!"
Post by: TheUnknown on March 26, 2016, 03:30:50 pm
Man, I don't think I've ever seen an article with as many comments removed as this one.  What the hell were people saying?
Title: Re: "I sent my daughter to a torture center. FEEL SORRY 4 MEEEEE!!!!!!"
Post by: rookie on March 26, 2016, 09:05:55 pm
As a patent, I'm happy enough NOT knowing what was removed. I went back and forth as to whether or not to read the article. I flipped trails and read it. And I'm glad new and Mrs. Rookie are better patents than that.
Title: Re: "I sent my daughter to a torture center. FEEL SORRY 4 MEEEEE!!!!!!"
Post by: I am lizard on March 26, 2016, 10:04:55 pm
Oh, and for an extra kick in the dick, you can get sent to the facility if you're suicidal.

What's that? You hate yourself? Well, we're going to send you to a place where you're mentally abused, where you're not allowed to bathe and you don't even get a goddamn roof over your head! That'll learn ya!

AND THE DAUGHTER WAS SENT THERE FOR DARING TO HAVE MOTIVATION ISSUES IN SCHOOL AND NOT GET STRAIGHT A'S. SHE WAS SENT TO A GODDAMN PRISONER CAMP FOR NOT PERFORMING PERFECTLY. AND THE MOTHER FIRST WENT THROUGH WITH FUNDING HER STUDIES (WHEN SHE COULD'VE FUCKING WELL JUST NOT DONE THAT AND THAT WOULD'VE FUCKING SOLVED IT), THEN DID THIS.

And the comment section is defending her.

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I don't agree at all.

If the kids concerned thought later in life their mother did the wrong thing they would have it out with her.

I don't know exactly what happened but my guess is she probably met some loser or other who thinks exactly the same way as you - probably does drugs - whilst on the way to the bottom they probably wanted to take someone with prospects with them.

Trauma ? I would say drugs and the police count for nothing ?

She had EVERY MORAL RIGHT as a mother... seen my sister almost destroyed by a drugged up loser... wish we had the chance to change her rather than see her put herself through years of misery.

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If by "mental trauma" you mean self-reliance and discipline, then I totally agree.

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This is a private family matter and you people have no right to intrude.

MURDER. LONG, DRAWN-OUT MURDER AND DESTRUCTION OF EVERYTHING THAT GIVES HER JOY. AND THESE PEOPLE TOO.

EDIT: I am perfectly aware that this is just my irrational rage talking. I know that. I know that such measures wouldn't be just.
The comments arent really defending her.

In fact half of them were removed because they were rightfully pissed.
Title: Re: "I sent my daughter to a torture center. FEEL SORRY 4 MEEEEE!!!!!!"
Post by: niam2023 on March 26, 2016, 10:53:12 pm
I'd support finding out who this monstrosity is. It doesn't really deserve to live the quiet citizen life after what it did.
Title: Re: "I sent my daughter to a torture center. FEEL SORRY 4 MEEEEE!!!!!!"
Post by: I am lizard on March 27, 2016, 12:56:08 am
I'm trying to think of something I could do that would attract the most attention to these camps.


Personally I'd tolerate up to 10 years.
Title: Re: "I sent my daughter to a torture center. FEEL SORRY 4 MEEEEE!!!!!!"
Post by: Dakota Bob on March 27, 2016, 08:16:34 am
What. Why.

Look, I love my mother, but if she ever did anything like this to me they would never find the body. how fucked up did those children have to get that they still have contact with their mother after this?
Title: Re: "I sent my daughter to a torture center. FEEL SORRY 4 MEEEEE!!!!!!"
Post by: Art Vandelay on March 27, 2016, 08:22:20 am
What. Why.

Look, I love my mother, but if she ever did anything like this to me they would never find the body. how fucked up did those children have to get that they still have contact with their mother after this?

Psychological conditioning is a rather powerful thing. Especially when the subject has no idea that that's what's happening.
Title: Re: "I sent my daughter to a torture center. FEEL SORRY 4 MEEEEE!!!!!!"
Post by: Damen on March 27, 2016, 05:57:06 pm
Every time I read about shit like this, I always want to be down the block with an SR-25 when the thugs are dragging the kid out to the van. I don't think these places will be in business for long when their hired goons' heads start exploding.

Then my rational mind kicks back in and I just start seething for the rest of the day.
No, I think that's a good idea.

So, I'm not alone in my desire for .308 caliber head asplody goodness?
Title: Re: "I sent my daughter to a torture center. FEEL SORRY 4 MEEEEE!!!!!!"
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on March 27, 2016, 07:01:10 pm
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I knew deep down I was right, but I didn’t know if my daughter would forgive me

Here, let me google that for you (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=troubled+teen+industry). Nope, not even close.

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Both my kids joke that I’m a psycho mom.

Fancy. That.

What. Why.

Look, I love my mother, but if she ever did anything like this to me they would never find the body. how fucked up did those children have to get that they still have contact with their mother after this?

Psychological conditioning is a rather powerful thing. Especially when the subject has no idea that that's what's happening.
Also, someone has to spend the bitches inheritance.
Title: Re: "I sent my daughter to a torture center. FEEL SORRY 4 MEEEEE!!!!!!"
Post by: rageaholic on March 27, 2016, 08:10:06 pm
So I came in here expecting to read a story of a mother who sent her kids to one of these places unaware of what they were really like.  Some of these places advertise themselves as resorts for teens.  So while I still think they need a kick in the ass for not researching these places, at least they could learn from their mistakes and possibly inform others; preventing other parents from making the same mistake. 

Nope, she knew EXACTLY what these places were like, and still thinks it was the right choice.  Let's go over this crap (bolding will be mine).

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It was 3am. I went into my daughter’s room, woke her, told her I loved her and that she was going on a trip. She was drowsy from the sleeping pills I’d slipped in her drink a few hours earlier. Then the two strangers I’d hired to take her away went into her room. She tried to get her bag and makeup. “Where you’re going, you don’t need anything,” they told her. I stood outside the door, shaking. Had I just created a situation in which I would lose my 17-year-old for ever?

She not only lied to her daughter, she drugged her and conspired in her kidnapping.  What a sicko!

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But I had to act fast. Her beauty school fees were due the coming Saturday. And, legally, I had control over her only while she was still under 18. I found a boot camp for troubled children in Utah and hired a private service to escort her there, whether she wanted to go or not. That Friday night we went to dinner on the pretence that it was to celebrate her new school. It was actually to stop her seeing friends and ensure she’d be home for the escorts.

Yay! more dececption! 

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After their appearance in the middle of the night, the security service flew with her to the Utah desert. That first day I grieved. I knew deep down I was right, but I didn’t know if my daughter would forgive me: I had to be prepared to lose her in order to help her. Her friends called and I said she’d gone on a trip. “Where did she go? When will she be back?” they asked. I told them I didn’t know.

*fumes*  As if I couldn't hate this cunt any more.  I despise people who play martyr after doing something heinous.

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I had paid $16,000 (£11,380) for seven weeks of gruelling physical and mental challenges. The other kids were in desperate situations: young offenders, drug addicts, some were suicidal. I was aware my daughter didn’t share their circumstances. They lived like cavemen: they didn’t see a roof the whole time, took care of their sanitary waste, learned survival skills and did physical labour; some cut off their hair because they couldn’t bathe.

The fact that this didn't phase her speaks volumes about the kind of person she is. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy#Sociopathy)

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She finished high school with straight As, went to college, then did a master’s. She works in the legal system now. Both my kids joke that I’m a psycho mom, but they forgave me and we remain close. It’s the most difficult thing I’ve ever done. Could they have got where they are today without such drastic action? Perhaps, but it wasn’t a chance I was willing to take. I believe the more we suffer in life, the more we grow. I have two strong, amazing kids, and I’d do it again

Well then, you have a lot of growing to do. 

What really gets me is her reason for such drastic actions, her daughter *gasp* wanted to be a hairdresser!  She could have easily put the money she spent on having her daughter kidnapped and tortured toward the beauty school she wanted to go to.  Problem solved!  But instead, she had to do this. 

All I can say about this evil woman is this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3Z2MP8vMWU
Title: Re: "I sent my daughter to a torture center. FEEL SORRY 4 MEEEEE!!!!!!"
Post by: Even Then on March 27, 2016, 08:55:02 pm
The article mentions the payment for the school approaching, so she first allowed it to happen, THEN did this.

Title: Re: "I sent my daughter to a torture center. FEEL SORRY 4 MEEEEE!!!!!!"
Post by: niam2023 on March 27, 2016, 09:13:35 pm
She needs to die.

And so do those inbreds in Utah running the place.
Title: Re: "I sent my daughter to a torture center. FEEL SORRY 4 MEEEEE!!!!!!"
Post by: Delirium on April 01, 2016, 11:17:29 am
I went to a ~troubled teen~ program (albeit one of the lenient ones) for the last two years of high school. Some of the individual staff were nice but the entire administration was rotten to the core. The entire industry needs to be shut down.
Title: Re: "I sent my daughter to a torture center. FEEL SORRY 4 MEEEEE!!!!!!"
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 01, 2016, 11:30:51 am
Yeah, my cousin went to one of those (code name: The Lord's Ranch) and I'm all but certain she was physically, emotionally, and sexually abused.  It likely contributed to her, shall we say, severely deteriorated mental state she's in today.  All such places need to be burned to the ground, the staff investigated, and offenders sent to prison.